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| tadzik | wow, I just saw a screenshot of a terminal.keyboard on N9: talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37203&stc=1&d=1433702554 | 01:38 |
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| tadzik | Looks so much more convenient than the one fingerterm has | 01:38 |
| tadzik | Or rather: since it's the system keyboard it probably doesn't lose keypresses like fingerterm does (for me) | 01:39 |
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| Mikaela | I just learned that Microsoft Lumia 435 does IPv6 tethering and Jolla/Sailfish doesn't D: | 06:13 |
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| phlixi | talking about tethering... | 06:19 |
| phlixi | ...do you know what i can do in order to not have a different ip each time? | 06:20 |
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| phlixi | on a first glance it seems to be 17216.x.1 where x is random (allthough usually a low number) | 06:22 |
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| phlixi | 172.16.x.1 i meant | 06:23 |
| phlixi | but then suddenly it is 172.28.172.1 | 06:23 |
| phlixi | is there a config for that? | 06:24 |
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| phlixi | nvm https://together.jolla.com/question/88940/static-tethering-ip/ | 06:38 |
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| narchie | so why the hell doesn't even facebook contact import work anymore? | 07:21 |
| narchie | please | 07:21 |
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| phlixi | narchie: there is something in the release notes aboutit | 07:23 |
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| Mikaela | because Facebook killed that API | 07:27 |
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| narchie | perfect, so another 6 months until we can get a new patch | 07:28 |
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| tadzik | Hooray facebook | 07:32 |
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| Stskeeps | morn SfietKonstantinW | 07:49 |
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| tiwake | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hs7vW8SV0 | 08:47 |
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| Nicd- | https://together.jolla.com/question/95124/release-notes-116aaslakkajarvi/ | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | UPDATE TIEM | 09:43 |
| Shinryuu | :O | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | "Ability to select and mark multiple emails as read/unread" yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss | 09:43 |
| pp | yay | 09:43 |
| citylight2 | email search! | 09:44 |
| ggabriel | that was fast | 09:44 |
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| citylight2 | when? | 09:45 |
| ggabriel | now | 09:46 |
| citylight2 | I am so happy now | 09:47 |
| citylight2 | music, lights, dancing | 09:47 |
| Scelt | Badger is dead. Long live the Badger! | 09:48 |
| tadzik | Are there custom Trash folders too? | 09:48 |
| Shinryuu | do I have to attend a early access list or something? I attented in some in the past | 09:49 |
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| citylight2 | o, how to have my camera files, rsynced automaticly to my owncloud? | 09:51 |
| Nicd- | installing... | 09:51 |
| Shinryuu | guess I'll test something -> | 09:52 |
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| citylight2 | and now I only need search in a webpage | 09:55 |
| citylight2 | and an extra battery | 09:55 |
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| ilpianista | update! update! updateeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah | 10:09 |
| * ilpianista sorry, couldn't resist | 10:09 | |
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| TemeV | must... resist... | 10:09 |
| citylight2 | WORKS! | 10:10 |
| citylight2 | after I remove the bluetooth feom the settings main menu , How to restore it? | 10:12 |
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| Nicd- | citylight2: long press on it in settings -> system | 10:15 |
| Nicd- | add to favorites | 10:15 |
| citylight2 | yes, but then it doesn't have a light above it , as it used to have | 10:15 |
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| Nicd- | then long press the toggle in that page | 10:15 |
| chem|st | ilpianista: RC RC RC.... | 10:16 |
| citylight2 | wait , I can search a web page! | 10:16 |
| ilpianista | chem|st, I trust them :-) | 10:16 |
| narchie | so is btree broken again | 10:16 |
| narchie | balancing was too hard | 10:17 |
| citylight2 | Nicd-: long press opens the Remove from favorites | 10:17 |
| narchie | or can I update without fear | 10:17 |
| chem|st | citylight2: owncloud app from store + upload daemon from openrepos does auto picture upload | 10:17 |
| chem|st | ilpianista: after the last, really? | 10:17 |
| Nicd- | citylight2: long press where? | 10:17 |
| citylight2 | long press on the blouthooth icon | 10:17 |
| Nicd- | narchie: it autobalances once per week now | 10:17 |
| Nicd- | citylight2: where? | 10:17 |
| narchie | wow impressed | 10:17 |
| Aciid | narchie: i can send you a sickass no-fear TM sticker if you are afraid to update http://sassystickers.com/images/no-fear-sticker.jpg | 10:18 |
| chem|st | citylight2: longpress ins System -> Bluetooth -> BT toggle | 10:18 |
| Aciid | i got a bunch of them from pre-school | 10:18 |
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| citylight2 | chem|st: no app called uploader/uploader deamon in openropo | 10:19 |
| narchie | does this new update have direct FSB api? | 10:19 |
| chem|st | citylight2: lol | 10:19 |
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| chem|st | citylight2: search for owncloud | 10:19 |
| narchie | kremlin as a service | 10:19 |
| chem|st | citylight2: do I really take your hand for that? | 10:19 |
| Aciid | narchie: yes you need to type 951945 in the dialer app | 10:20 |
| narchie | ok Aciid does that call putin | 10:20 |
| ilpianista | chem|st, last didn't broke anything for me | 10:20 |
| chem|st | narchie: no it attaches your phone as zombie device to FSB | 10:20 |
| citylight2 | o ok owncloud photo backup deamon | 10:20 |
| Nicd- | why the trolling? | 10:20 |
| citylight2 | did not see it in the past | 10:20 |
| chem|st | ilpianista: you did not read together did you? | 10:20 |
| ilpianista | I do | 10:20 |
| ilpianista | but I don't install stuff from openrepos... | 10:21 |
| ilpianista | and these decrease the chance of issues IMHO | 10:21 |
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| citylight2 | chem|st: yesterday I asked about connmn: answer is: test/monitor-connman , so easy | 10:21 |
| chem|st | while that is true, also people without openrepos had issues, it was not only that addresshook thing that screwed things over | 10:21 |
| citylight2 | ok, as so many developers are here, let me ask this: | 10:22 |
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| chem|st | citylight2: go to #sailfishos | 10:22 |
| citylight2 | How can I setup a chore that will run in 10 min? | 10:22 |
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| citylight2 | so I can check when is my next appointment in the calender and call a method to run then | 10:23 |
| citylight2 | I understand that when the OS sleeps , nothing is running | 10:23 |
| chem|st | -> #sailfishos | 10:24 |
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| citylight2 | ok | 10:27 |
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| Jonni | citylight2: if your device is connected to cherger clock is still running in background, its only stopping the clock when unplugged and suspended. | 10:42 |
| Jonni | and there is heartbeat library that can be used for timed wakeups even if device is suspended. | 10:44 |
| Jonni | cherger=charger | 10:44 |
| stephg | oo update | 10:45 |
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| Tofe | bye bye uptime... | 10:49 |
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| Tofe | Flawless update, once more. | 11:07 |
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| narchie | eah like last time | 11:13 |
| narchie | almost bricked the device | 11:13 |
| narchie | good one | 11:13 |
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| chem|st | Tofe: in the dev chan we have the first blackscreen of death... | 11:57 |
| citylight2 | chem|st: help with owncloud it refuses to log on to my https | 12:01 |
| citylight2 | it worked with my http.... | 12:01 |
| chem|st | citylight2: open browser page to get the cert | 12:04 |
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| chem|st | the checkbox "ignore cert errors" seems to be for errors only but not for untrusted certs | 12:04 |
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| citylight2 | chem|st: thanks, this comment should appear in the program IMHO | 12:11 |
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| citylight2 | I do get a view showing me the site signature and I did accept, yet I get an error | 12:11 |
| citylight2 | I now ignored the cert errors in the browser, and it still refuses to work | 12:12 |
| citylight2 | i close the browser and the owncloud client | 12:12 |
| chem|st | citylight2: there should be no such thing as "untrusted certs" but a notification "why" it is failing would be nice though | 12:12 |
| citylight2 | I then start the broweser and surf to my owncloud https, it opens fine as I accepted the cert allready | 12:13 |
| chem|st | citylight2: then I don't know... that was the only issue I had | 12:13 |
| citylight2 | I then ope the owncloud client, and click continue | 12:13 |
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| chem|st | try setting up a new account | 12:16 |
| Tofe | chem|st: yeah, but I have a quite mainstream usage of my Jolla: no patches, no hooks, maybe just one little app from warehouse, so I don't tinker that much | 12:17 |
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| chem|st | Tofe: good for you, people without openrepos had issues with installing 1.1.4 though | 12:18 |
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| Tofe | Though I'm not The First One, I might be The Lucky One :) No factory reset since dec'13 ! | 12:24 |
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| ggabriel | i hope you find excitement in your life some other way, Tofe ;) | 12:25 |
| Tofe | Oh, yes, I sure don't need that to enjoy the day :p | 12:26 |
| Tofe | The only thing I'm always worried about is if my modification of the alien script to mount my btrfs sdcard on home will be a problem. But so far, so good. | 12:29 |
| Tofe | Makes me think, maybe it has resetted it... | 12:30 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... mine is ext4 | 12:33 |
| ggabriel | i couldn't be asked to format it btrfs as it wouldn't let me | 12:33 |
| ggabriel | so now it's ext4 :P | 12:34 |
| ggabriel | i'll def format the tablet one btrfs, when it arrives | 12:34 |
| ggabriel | soon* ;) | 12:34 |
| Tofe | wow, my alien.sh script is untouch! cool. At, I hope it's cool. | 12:35 |
| Tofe | +least | 12:35 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: for MTP and btrfs volume shared with android, it's specific to 1.1.4 ? | 12:36 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: I think I still can access my Jolla via MTP... Maybe we aren't talking about the same bug? | 12:39 |
| chem|st | Tofe: yeah same changes and as long as they do not change anything it is untouched, for some reason I have no MTP at all while the subvol is mounted | 12:41 |
| Tofe | ah maybe my subvolume isn't mounted yet, let me start some android app | 12:42 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: tablet does not use btrfs, it will get LVM/ext (not an official statement but that is what you can read from the git commits) | 12:43 |
| Tofe | chem|st: with Nokia Here started, I unplugged usb cacle and replugged, select desktop mode, and my Windows7 detects and browses the device. | 12:45 |
| Tofe | cable* | 12:45 |
| chem|st | if you know how to handle LVM you can just add the uSD as extention of internal user storage (never add it as system storage! unless we get a flasher+images!) | 12:45 |
| chem|st | Tofe: don't know if it works once it is exported correctly, reading: if you reboot start alien and then trigger MTP you might have another result | 12:46 |
| Tofe | ah yes, maybe | 12:47 |
| chem|st | never tried to MTP "before" alien was started | 12:49 |
| Tofe | Neither did I, I think. Well, as I often reboot my device once per month, the current status if ok for me | 12:50 |
| Tofe | is* | 12:50 |
| chem|st | Tofe: and you do not need to be concerned about altering alien stuff btw, as long as you follow my instructions and do not try anything funky before I update the together... I am willing to test everything and update the together with my findings, I will also tell if something is broken | 12:51 |
| chem|st | Tofe: I reboot intentionally on upgrades | 12:52 |
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| chem|st | so my longest uptime is the time between upgrades | 12:52 |
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| chem|st | there were releases freezing the device though, but usually a kick in lipstick's face did recover it | 12:53 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: don't worry, this is my main daily phone, I'm very careful when I modify system things. I usually understands what I'm doing, otherwise I don't do it :) | 12:53 |
| chem|st | Tofe: that is the right approach | 12:53 |
| chem|st | I am still to lazy to provide a script for all this but well that keeps b00ns away | 12:54 |
| chem|st | fearless n00bs are still available though | 12:55 |
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| Tofe | Providing steps is better, imho. The person who hits "Enter" feels more responsible for what happens. | 12:56 |
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| vrutkovs | coderus: ping. Any chance you have a link to your jolla developing videos nearby? | 12:59 |
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| * vrutkovs got lost in QT Creator - QML/JS console prints 'unimplemented command "evaluate"' all the time | 13:00 | |
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| coderus | vrutkovs: youtube.com/icoderus | 13:05 |
| coderus | vrutkovs: but what is evaluate? | 13:05 |
| coderus | never seen that in qml | 13:05 |
| vrutkovs | coderus: no idea, all I've googled was some QT bug. So now I have to use 'console.log' like its 1995 | 13:06 |
| vrutkovs | coderus: thanks for the link though | 13:06 |
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| coderus | vrutkovs: well, if you don't know, i have no idea about your error too : | 13:08 |
| coderus | :) | 13:08 |
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| chem|st | lol battery drain report minutes after an upgrade | 13:47 |
| Teme | :D | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | that's very useful, I have an ashtray in my motorcycle which is as useful | 13:48 |
| chem|st | how about: "you had the screen more active to see what is new and probably trackerd did rescan the FS and stuff" | 13:48 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: for the sake of the power-plug maybe? | 13:49 |
| ggabriel | erm, no, just the ashtray | 13:49 |
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| chem|st | lol ok that is indeed useful! | 13:51 |
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| TMavica | Any file downloaded, it show “!" in event view?? | 14:02 |
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| stephg | what's the state of FB integration in 1.1.6 btw? I read in the release notes that FB had approved the implimentation but the chat is still missing? | 15:03 |
| stephg | (or was this not chat but contacts first etc) | 15:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | stephg: forget about the chat :( | 15:03 |
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| stephg | shame SfietKonstantinW | 15:04 |
| stephg | I take it Friends is still b0rked too? | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | erm... fb chat works with xmpp fwiw | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | (still) | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | it doesn't support history or offline messages, but it works significantly better than gtalk | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | unofficially | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | well, they didn't get rid of it yet | 15:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | stephg: Friends have a LONG way to go | 15:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ggabriel: still working ? won't it be shut down soon ? | 15:08 |
| Mikaela | it was supposed to shut down ages ago, but still seems to work with bitlbee | 15:08 |
| Mikaela | which also has support for fb's own protocol in more recent version | 15:09 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Mikaela: any source for bitlbee ? | 15:09 |
| Mikaela | it's FOSS, but I am not sure where the source lives | 15:09 |
| locusf | https://github.com/jgeboski/bitlbee-facebook | 15:10 |
| Mikaela | oh https://github.com/bitlbee/bitlbee | 15:10 |
| locusf | heh, bitlbee still has msn | 15:11 |
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| ggabriel | SfietKonstantinW: dunno, it beats me, i was ready to use the web ui but xmpp still works so... | 15:14 |
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| ggabriel | SfietKonstantinW: also, they'll be shut down #soon ;-) | 15:23 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | thx locusf | 15:44 |
| locusf | SfietKonstantinW: its not 100%, misses some messages like images and links but text works 99% of the time | 15:46 |
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| raa700_ | 99% of the time it works every time | 17:24 |
| cb400f | :-) | 17:26 |
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| RaYmAn | So, I gotta ask. Why have none of the Jolla tablet blogposts been posted as updates on indiegogo? | 18:21 |
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| Tegu | really? sound a bit odd | 18:22 |
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| Tegu | maybe they forgot about gogos after monies and since the posted on their blog anyway | 18:23 |
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| * Stskeeps goes ask | 18:24 | |
| RaYmAn | I just checked and there isn't even an update about the shipping date slipping a few months. | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | (might take a while to get an answer) | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | thought the shipping date got mailed out | 18:24 |
| RaYmAn | it might have - I couldn't find it in my emails right now, but I'm probably just searching badly =P | 18:25 |
| RaYmAn | Still though, the 'crowdfunding way' is to keep backers updated on the platform which they backed on :) | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | nod | 18:26 |
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| raa700_ | "dropped" my jolla in waste oil bucket while changing oil to a motorcycle on weekend... seems to be working fine | 20:44 |
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| raa700_ | hopefully the plastics won't mind about CRC precision cleaner | 20:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | mmmm used engine oil | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | nice | 20:55 |
| TemeV | old engine oil is quite good iirc | 20:55 |
| TemeV | http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/323/875/ | 20:56 |
| r0kk3rz | haha | 20:56 |
| r0kk3rz | wonder what it tastes like | 20:56 |
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| raa700_ | once you go black you never go back | 21:01 |
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| chem|st | raa700_: that was women... | 21:12 |
| chem|st | not beer | 21:12 |
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| raa700_ | all the same, as long as theyre cold and open on the table | 21:13 |
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