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| TMavica | Good morning | 01:17 |
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| coderus | so orly morning :D | 06:22 |
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| ilpianista | it's just me or Jolla does not set any LANG? | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | ilpianista: it should, in /var/lib/environment/locale.conf or the likes | 08:27 |
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| ilpianista | Stskeeps: it seems it's ignored when you login from SSH or application it launched via qtcreator (then via SSH) | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | may be | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | ssh would override it? | 08:28 |
| ilpianista | seems it sets C | 08:28 |
| ilpianista | output from SSH http://dpaste.com/3MFWM57 | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | mail it on sailfish-devel | 08:29 |
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| tbr | ssh by default tries to use the client side locale | 08:35 |
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| * oida derb | 08:51 | |
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| ilpianista | tbr: mmm, than it fails because I use en_GB | 09:18 |
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| coderus | ilpianista: disable client lang in ssh conf then | 10:09 |
| coderus | and qtc using uwn environment, you can edit it in project run settings | 10:09 |
| coderus | own* | 10:09 |
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| madk | Hey guys | 15:23 |
| madk | I have a question... is a second jolla phone coming out soon? | 15:23 |
| madk | I don't want to waste money if I could wait and buy a better device. | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | not that anyone has announced yet | 15:23 |
| madk | r0kk3rz: any rumours? | 15:23 |
| madk | Also what SIM does it take? Micro I'm assuming. | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | it takes micro | 15:24 |
| madk | Okay cool | 15:24 |
| r0kk3rz | we know there is a third party manufacturer that is taking on sailfishos | 15:24 |
| r0kk3rz | that will be announced before summer break | 15:24 |
| madk | Hmmmmmmm | 15:24 |
| madk | Interesting | 15:24 |
| madk | So something may be coming | 15:24 |
| madk | Maybe I should wait | 15:24 |
| r0kk3rz | whether that also is announcing a phone, and what that phone looks like? who knows | 15:24 |
| madk | Does everything run nicely on Jolla? | 15:25 |
| madk | I don't mind low specs as long as I don't notice lag etc | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | depends on what you want to do with it | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | generally there is no lad | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | *lag | 15:25 |
| madk | SMS, email, internet browsing. | 15:25 |
| madk | No games | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | then the specs likely wont bother you at all | 15:26 |
| madk | Okay good | 15:26 |
| madk | I'll think about it more | 15:27 |
| madk | What about android apps | 15:27 |
| madk | I sometimes want to run a few. | 15:27 |
| madk | Strava mostly | 15:27 |
| * madk currently has BB10 phone | 15:27 | |
| r0kk3rz | the android layer is currently best-in-class afaik | 15:27 |
| r0kk3rz | so much so that apparently the jolla guys received questions from mark shuttleworth at MWC about how it works | 15:28 |
| madk | Well, the BlackBerry 10 one can run every app I've tried at native speeds. Can even run native code | 15:28 |
| madk | Not sure if the Jolla one can do that | 15:28 |
| r0kk3rz | apparently the overhead is extremely small | 15:28 |
| madk | Native code though? | 15:29 |
| r0kk3rz | define native code? | 15:29 |
| madk | C++ android calls. | 15:29 |
| madk | Not just Java | 15:29 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah they work | 15:29 |
| madk | Okay cool! | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | i think | 15:30 |
| madk | That's good news | 15:30 |
| madk | I'll buy one at the end of the month | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | in general the issue around things working or not is around connectivity restrictions put on alien-dalvik | 15:30 |
| madk | I also want to port a BB10 app I've made... But I hate using Qt Creator (and the simulator especially). Developing is the main reason I want the device. | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | like apps that require broadcast packets on the wifi dont work, things like that | 15:31 |
| madk | Hmm | 15:31 |
| madk | Okay | 15:31 |
| madk | What os version does it support? | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | it terms of development, qt5.2 is the api | 15:32 |
| madk | BB10 runs 4.3 | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure tbh | 15:32 |
| madk | I know that. I've fiddled with it a bit... designing with Qt Creator is a pain | 15:32 |
| madk | Anyway! | 15:32 |
| madk | has anyone ever tried running BBM for Android on it? | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | designing? like drag and drop UIs? | 15:32 |
| madk | r0kk3rz: no. just making the ui. Doesn't need to be drag and drop | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | sailfish uses qml | 15:33 |
| madk | I just wish it was easier to see what I've typed up. Like, what is this going to look like. | 15:33 |
| madk | I know | 15:33 |
| madk | The design preview in Qt Creator makes no sense to me | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | ive seen no need for any designers as such with qml, because its simple | 15:33 |
| madk | I use qml for my BB10 app | 15:33 |
| madk | There's a 'design preview' window that shows exactly what your qml file will render as on-device | 15:34 |
| madk | I wish qt creator had that. | 15:34 |
| madk | oh well | 15:34 |
| madk | Having a device and quick deployment will make me not mind | 15:34 |
| r0kk3rz | in theory you can run qmlscene for preview purposes | 15:35 |
| r0kk3rz | but i just run on device | 15:35 |
| r0kk3rz | not the quickest workflow for minor not-sure-this-will-work tweaks, but functional | 15:35 |
| madk | Yeah | 15:36 |
| r0kk3rz | but yeah as far as a future device from jolla itself, i wouldnt expect to hear any word from them before the tablet is released | 15:38 |
| r0kk3rz | in approx 2 months or so | 15:38 |
| r0kk3rz | and even then, unlikely to be hot on the heels of the tablet anyway | 15:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | there would probably be another indiegogo campaign, then the actual production and delivery. which is a minimum 6 months kind of timeframe if the tablet is anything to go by | 15:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | maybe even longer due to higher regulatory certification on mobile phones rather than wifi-only tablets | 15:42 |
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| madk | Yeah that's true | 16:04 |
| madk | Okay | 16:04 |
| madk | Awesome | 16:04 |
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