| tadzik | And generally not have used any warranty service for the past 5 years. I'll have to bend that rule for my dslr lens though, as I can't fix it myself | 00:00 |
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| Laxtlo | hellou | 07:58 |
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| DerShokus | Hello everyone! I have a problem with new Jolla (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8Z56WhtJ6apX0RxamVDNkpjeEE/edit). I tried to reset device to factory state, but it doesn't solve the problem. | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | contacted care? | 08:19 |
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| DerShokus | Stskeeps, no. Can I get help here? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | not really, community channel | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | jolla.zendesk.com | 08:22 |
| DerShokus | Stskeeps, oh. Thanx. | 08:22 |
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| HtheB | juiceme: you there? | 09:48 |
| flux | has someone tried how big of a battery drain MeeRun is per hour? | 09:54 |
| ggabriel | flux: I don't even notice it drains battery tbh... | 09:55 |
| ggabriel | otoh, I don't normally touch the phone while meerun is recording | 09:55 |
| ggabriel | so imagine that there is no drain due to screen switching on, or me checking texts, emails etc | 09:56 |
| flux | ggabriel, I'm probably going to use it on a 6-hour bicycle ride, so I guess it would be nice if it didn't power down during that | 09:56 |
| flux | but ok, I'll just disable extra crap and I'll probably be alright | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | ok, the longest I used it in one recording was 1.5 hours ,and several versions ago | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | the phone went very sluggish but never ran out of battery | 09:56 |
| flux | hmm, so maybe I should decrease the sampling interval | 09:56 |
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| ggabriel | the maximum I used it in 3 recordings was 2.5-3 hours | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | sorry, add 1 more hour to that | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | so 3.5-4 hours | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | the battery didn't drain more than usual | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | that was 4 x cyle 1 x running | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | oh, and I was playing music while running :P | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | i didn't disable anything fwiw | 09:58 |
| HtheB | is it possible to compile something where you only want a .desktop file? | 09:59 |
| coderus | HtheB: then you don't need to compile anything | 09:59 |
| flux | ggabriel, did you use the default 3 second interval? | 09:59 |
| coderus | make spec file and do rpmbuild | 09:59 |
| ggabriel | the .desktop file is just a text file that points to an executable... | 10:00 |
| till- | i think i had like 5-10% drain in one hour using only meerun (and some background apps, but screen was off most of the time) | 10:00 |
| ggabriel | flux: i used the defaults, I believe they change depending on the activity | 10:00 |
| flux | also is there an app for Jolla to send GPS coordinates to the web periodically? | 10:00 |
| till- | but for bike trips i usually use a power bank as i have the screen on most of the time for maps | 10:00 |
| flux | preferably something with a Google Maps front ;-) | 10:00 |
| ggabriel | flux: if you use google maps, your coordinates are going to be sent to the web all the time :P | 10:01 |
| TemeV | HtheB: https://github.com/TemeV/FI-arrows-keyboard there is an example .pro and .spec for project that only installs some files | 10:01 |
| HtheB | coderus, ggabriel: Yeah I know, but I want to upload it on the Jolla store | 10:02 |
| HtheB | it's the "Locks device" and "Connect to Internet" apps that are already on the Open Repos | 10:03 |
| HtheB | But it gets rejected because it misses some stuff | 10:03 |
| HtheB | the icons should only execute a command (which is in the .desktop file) | 10:04 |
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| coderus | HtheB: what is exact reason of reject? | 10:06 |
| flux | ggabriel, well, I might want to limit the update interval, send to some other service than google, etc.. | 10:10 |
| flux | I actually wrote one for N900 - or actually it was general but N900's browser actually supported sending the GPS coordinates. maybe it works everywhere nowadays! | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | flux: but does it have to be online? you can export all that info from meerun | 10:10 |
| flux | yes, online | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | then I wouldn't know | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | sailfish browser supports that fwiw | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | so if the page you're visiting can access the location object, there you go | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | but you're on your own re battery drain ;) | 10:11 |
| HtheB | coderus: check out pm | 10:14 |
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| birdzhang | morning~ | 12:10 |
| birdzhang | :D | 12:11 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | hi birdzhang | 12:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | morn-afternoon | 12:21 |
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| HtheB | Stskeeps: ping | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | HtheB: not really here | 14:22 |
| HtheB | ok | 14:22 |
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| TMavica | 你好嗎 | 15:43 |
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| Tofe | TMavica: morning too | 15:48 |
| TMavica | lo. u understand | 15:49 |
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| Tofe | no, I guess :) | 15:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Tofe: and technically you are wrong :P | 15:53 |
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| TMavica | it is not mean morning by the way | 16:06 |
| TMavica | LOL | 16:06 |
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| zhxt_ | hoho, morning should be : 早 or 早上好(good morning) :) | 16:14 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 16:14 |
| zhxt_ | :P | 16:15 |
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| zhxt_ | actually it is midnight here now and I have to say : 晚安！ | 16:17 |
| * zhxt_ is going to sleep... | 16:17 | |
| Nokius | tires to use hand writing but fails to write this Chinese sings :( | 16:19 |
| Nokius | got it | 16:21 |
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| zhxt_ | lol | 16:22 |
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| Nokius | zhxt_: :O | 16:23 |
| Aard | zhxt_: UGT | 16:23 |
| zhxt_ | UGT? | 16:24 |
| Aard | universal greeting time | 16:24 |
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| zhxt_ | oh. hehe | 16:24 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: okay I prefer the last one from last night but it's up to u Thanks for the application :) | 16:25 |
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| altker128 | Hi all. Two questions : 1. Who is actually doing the work on the Jolla tablet? 2. Are there any plans to release a Jolla phone with newer specs (mainly CPU)? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | er.. could you rephrase 1) ? | 18:31 |
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| ortylp | chem|st: have you got CardDAV working with radicale? | 18:38 |
| Nicd- | altker128: jolla is doing the work on the jolla tablet :P | 18:39 |
| Nicd- | altker128: at this point it seems unlikely that jolla will release a new phone, at least soon, but they have said that another company will start making phones with sailfish | 18:39 |
| Nicd- | and that they would release more info before summer holidays | 18:40 |
| coderus | it will be sad to loose TOH concept on future sailfishos phones, it was a nice time. | 18:41 |
| altker128 | Stskeeps: I meant, is Jolla working with an ODM or are they doing the engineering themselves? | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | altker128: in practice everybody is working with an ODM these days | 18:42 |
| ggabriel | oh, hey you guys, did you know about this great feature of android m? double tap to unlock? mind-blown :P | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | so yes, we are | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: .. :P | 18:42 |
| * ggabriel is proud that he resisted like 6 hours to mention it | 18:43 | |
| ShadowJK | The question is, did jolla remember to patent it! | 18:43 |
| raa700_ | I think I've seen highly similar function on N9 | 18:44 |
| coderus | N9 was first oubletap to unlock phone, isn't it? | 18:45 |
| coderus | d* | 18:45 |
| HtheB | coderus: yes | 18:48 |
| HtheB | there are more phones that uses double tap to awake... | 18:49 |
| HtheB | but the first phone that introduced this was indeed the N9/N950 | 18:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | surely jolla has invested too much in a hardware team to stop making devices altogether | 18:56 |
| r0kk3rz | but i can understand that the software is the focus | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | nah, we've had a really good model in that regard | 18:56 |
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| Nokius | r0kk3rz: I have no clue but I assume there HW team is small but there Developer Team to get SFOS fling on HW is big | 19:33 |
| r0kk3rz | and naturally so | 19:34 |
| Nokius | biggest department is OS development | 19:34 |
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| Nokius | ah u mean invested in form of money? not men/women power? | 19:35 |
| r0kk3rz | but that doesnt mean they havent invested in in-house hardware development, and relationships with ODMs and such thing | 19:35 |
| r0kk3rz | money, people, time | 19:35 |
| r0kk3rz | personally id like a future where jolla brings out the occasional device with something cool or innovative like theotherhalf | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | but leaves actual hardware manufacturers to the mass market | 19:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | sorta like google shows the way with their nexus devices, but most people buy a samsung | 19:37 |
| Nokius | the Phone and the Tablet are sample devices which shows the power of SFOS | 19:37 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: yeap | 19:38 |
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| Nokius | user buy samsung cos the have the biggest budget for ads | 19:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | they can also make bajillions of phones | 19:40 |
| r0kk3rz | and make them available everywhere | 19:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | if jolla tried to do that they would end up like blackberry, the economy of scale is simply too great | 19:42 |
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| ggabriel | r0kk3rz: +1 re reference phone | 19:51 |
| ggabriel | but that's just hoping, or you never know, maybe another crowdfunding gig would do it | 19:51 |
| ggabriel | it is clear that some people are ok to buy expensive stuff, so maybe it's possible to do something like that | 19:51 |
| M4rtinK | I hope (at least some) future Sailfish OS devices will keep the ToH concept in some form | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | it does not need to be mechanically or even electrically compatible | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | but it would be kinda tragicomic to loose it just when the KEyboard ToHs start shipping | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | *keyboard | 19:53 |
| locusf | yep :) | 19:53 |
| ggabriel | well, we still have the jolla ;) | 19:53 |
| ggabriel | not sure when that well is going to get dry | 19:54 |
| r0kk3rz | there are plenty of other players in the modular smartphone game | 19:55 |
| M4rtinK | any maybe actual working devices one can buy and use ? :) | 19:56 |
| r0kk3rz | almost seems silly to try and maintain another incompatible standard of some kind | 19:56 |
| M4rtinK | after hearing tbr talking bout them on FOSDEM I'm kinda skeptical | 19:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i am also skeptical | 19:57 |
| r0kk3rz | i suspect the kickstarter ones are vapourware | 19:57 |
| r0kk3rz | googles project may go somewhere, maybe not | 19:57 |
| r0kk3rz | and nobody knows anything much about the puzzlephone | 19:57 |
| ggabriel | i'm skeptical about anything google tbh | 19:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | they have the dollars and the brand and the will | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | if anyone can make it work, its the googleplex | 19:58 |
| ggabriel | but they lack the quality | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | how so? | 19:58 |
| ggabriel | in general, anything that google releases is beta | 19:59 |
| ggabriel | and i know that this has been said before | 19:59 |
| ggabriel | but i see it every day, sadly | 19:59 |
| ggabriel | it sadly affects my work too as some companies use gmail. they can't get meeting invites right | 19:59 |
| ggabriel | so i doubt the general ability of getting something more complex such as a modular phone right | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | well software wise anyway | 20:00 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: +1 I hope there is no bigger phone just a replacement for the phone half :) | 20:00 |
| ggabriel | and odn't get me wrong, i know it's a big company | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | i wouldnt really call chromebooks beta, or the chromecast | 20:00 |
| ggabriel | i didn't try those | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | and they do have some fearsome engineering talent under their wing | 20:00 |
| ggabriel | mainly because i watch HD :P | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | chromecast will do hd | 20:00 |
| ggabriel | they claim so | 20:00 |
| ggabriel | super compressed HD | 20:01 |
| ggabriel | that isn't as good as a BD | 20:01 |
| ggabriel | some smart tv's claim the same thing | 20:01 |
| ggabriel | anyway | 20:01 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont own one, but my friends quite like theirs | 20:01 |
| ggabriel | i didn't try those, so i can't tell | 20:01 |
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| ggabriel | the nexus range of phones is pretty bad call/reception quality wise | 20:01 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: not sure if the logo in the baout page is save to use | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | modular smartphones arent quite as experiemental as glass, so they might go full consumer straight away | 20:02 |
| ggabriel | yup | 20:02 |
| ggabriel | and google will certainly get traction | 20:02 |
| kimmoli | Nokius: it is a link to gh, it was mentioned "use it as link to our pages"... | 20:02 |
| ggabriel | loads of people making modules for xyz | 20:02 |
| kimmoli | i also revised the app-icon with lighter and more even colors. | 20:02 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: did u set some transparency for the icon in the cover? | 20:03 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: nice hack :D | 20:03 |
| kimmoli | Nokius: uses default CoverPlaceholder | 20:04 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: iirc it use some transparency | 20:04 |
| kimmoli | opacity: 0.4 | 20:05 |
| Nokius | I like 0.2 | 20:05 |
| Nokius | bit tranparent and not so blury | 20:05 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: let me check it on fullhd | 20:06 |
| Nokius | :-/ | 20:06 |
| kimmoli | you mean 0.8 then ? | 20:07 |
| Nokius | let me check | 20:07 |
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| Nokius | ah used 0.6 in my unfinished application | 20:08 |
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| raa700_ | watching total recall, videophone system has swipe down to close | 20:17 |
| r0kk3rz | new or old? | 20:20 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: token is the 6 digt pin or? | 20:23 |
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| kimmoli | https://github.com/settings/tokens | 20:24 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: thx | 20:24 |
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| raa700_ | old | 20:24 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: if I type in the credentials refesh is needed to login | 20:27 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: looks great :D | 20:27 |
| kimmoli | yes, known issue | 20:27 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: also it is not all gist just few last for me API limit? | 20:28 |
| kimmoli | i have just ~10, so don't know. maybe api limit? | 20:29 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: is there a log :) | 20:30 |
| Nokius | i have a few 100 :D | 20:30 |
| Nokius | *<=100 | 20:30 |
| kimmoli | hmm | 20:32 |
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| kimmoli | start without parameters from terminal? | 20:33 |
| kimmoli | it prints something, not much | 20:33 |
| * Nokius need sleep and a clean brain | 20:34 | |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: mh no | 20:39 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: oh huge files 199517B slow down the interface a lot | 20:40 |
| kimmoli | yes | 20:40 |
| Nokius | ah and for png I get warning but I assume it know issue to | 20:41 |
| Nokius | but I relay like it | 20:41 |
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| kimmoli | warning? | 20:43 |
| kimmoli | i could recognize mimetype, and show images | 20:43 |
| Nokius | [W] QSGDistanceFieldGlyphCache::populate:119 - Warning: distance-field glyph is not available with index 0 | 20:45 |
| kimmoli | aa, with png. yes, binary data | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | i could also prevent showing if it is something else than text/plain | 20:47 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: it show the gist from pag 1 - 3 just checked it | 20:58 |
| Nokius | gn8 | 21:04 |
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