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citylight2hi, I am using the hebrew keyboard by the package hebrewvkbnew-4ar-0.8-1.armv7hl , after the last upgrade the space key disappeared09:21
citylight2I now look in the /usr/share/maliit/plugins/com/jolla/layouts/he.qml and I don't see a space key09:22
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xkr47anyone experienced that suddenly all applications stop receiving taps - you can still switch apps using swipes from the side but all apps appear as if taps do not happen anymore10:57
xkr47it has happened some 4+ times for me now and the only fix I have found is to reboot the phone10:58
xkr47I tried searching a bit on together.jolla.com but haven't found similar thing yet10:58
TemeVxkr47: that happened to me also a couple of times. I've just been too busy (read: lazy) to report it to to tjc11:01
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xkr47I have 1.1.2.16 Yliaavanlampi release, so one behind newest11:14
xkr47wonder if this someone has reported this on tjc already.. struggled a bit to figure out what kind of search keywords to use11:14
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HtheB is there a way to trigger an action when closing an app?14:00
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HtheBcoderus ^ ?14:04
coderusHtheB: you can set app.quitOnLastWindowClosed = false14:04
coderusand do something on view closed, and then call app.quit() manually14:04
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* HtheB tries out14:07
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: can't you connect to http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qcoreapplication.html#aboutToQuit14:35
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Sailor8545_hello, when I plugin headphones with integrated microphone into Jolla, it's automatically used instead of Jolla microphone14:39
Sailor8545_how to disable it?14:39
HtheBSailor8545_: ....14:39
HtheBthats pretty normal :P14:39
politietake it out14:39
politie😂14:39
Sailor8545_I want to use the headphones function but no microphone function14:39
JonniSailor8545_: by unpugging your headphone :)14:39
Sailor8545_but I need the headphone14:39
HtheBget a headphone without mic14:40
HtheBor just remove the mic part from the headphone14:40
Sailor8545_on PC I can choose between external or internal microphone used, I should be able to do in Jolla too, somehow by command line14:40
ggabrielerm, removing the mic from the headphone may not work14:40
HtheBim sure that there is some way to let the phone think that the headphones does not have mic14:40
ggabrielpulseaudio fun14:41
HtheBggabriel: ofcourse, just solder it and make it a normal headphone ;)14:41
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JonniSailor8545_: you might be able to do it by hacking around audio policyfiles and pulse audio, but I wouldnt recommend it. jusa_ would know better.14:41
ggabrielHtheB: eeerrrmmmm, ~20 gbp for a decent pair of headphones...14:41
HtheBJonni: o/14:41
Sailor8545hm14:42
HtheBggabriel: thats not the point. the point is that you said that it wouldn't work, but it would :P14:42
citylight2Is there a way to wakeup and run a given command?14:42
ggabrielHtheB: I say "may", and I said it like that becuase you may just want to tear the mic apart, and that wouldn't work14:42
Sailor8545I expected easy SW solution TBH14:42
HtheBSailor8545: yeah, there should14:42
ggabrielSailor8545: it's easy enough14:43
citylight2we have a mechanizem in the n900 for this14:43
HtheBI found an app on Harmattan that would let it switch14:43
ggabrielthe problem is that you're modifying something that is quite core for a mobile phone14:43
HtheBso im sure it should be possible on Jolla too14:43
citylight22. when will I be able to search my emails?14:43
Sailor8545ggabriel: then mobile OS lacks core function :)14:43
ggabrielSailor8545: well, it uses pulseaudio, so....14:44
Sailor8545citylight2: lol14:44
ggabrielcitylight2: 2. next release?14:44
ggabrielcitylight2: check the roadmap, that search function is unreleased iirc14:44
citylight2yep14:44
citylight2when will I be able to buy a new battery?14:45
ggabrielcitylight2: undetermined14:45
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ggabrielreopen the battery related question and vote i guess14:45
HtheBSailor8545: here is the source of the Headphone fix14:45
HtheBhttps://bitbucket.org/IlyaSkriblovsky/headphonefix14:45
citylight2I am missing an app to silence sounds when I am in meetings, as they appear in the calender14:46
HtheBmaybe someone might be willing it to port it to Jolla14:46
citylight2and resume normal when the meeting ends14:46
HtheBcitylight2: there is silence sounds at the lock screen14:46
ggabrielcitylight2: like situations?14:46
HtheBand otherwise: Situations?14:46
HtheBggabriel: exactly14:46
citylight2I want it to look in the calnder14:46
citylight2calender, not wifi14:47
HtheBask the dev of situations to see if he can add such thing in his app14:47
citylight2if its a "smart" phone it should know I am busy and not bother me14:47
ggabrielcitylight2: dogs are smart too, but they can't resolve 2nd degree equations14:47
HtheBwell, then we should call it "not so smart" phone14:48
ggabrielnow, ask nicely to the situations dev and maybe you get the feature14:48
citylight2no need, I just need a way to wake up when I sense the calender changed according to a dbus subscription14:48
* ggabriel wonders if the calendars spams the dbus when a calendar event ends/starts14:48
ggabrielyou can check the sqlite db in a crontab too14:49
citylight2will a new calender event , generate a dbus message and wake up the OS?14:49
ggabrielcitylight2: that's easy to check14:49
citylight2cron doesn't work when the OS is idle as I know14:49
ggabrielare you sure?14:49
citylight2this what I was told here14:49
citylight2and yes it is easy to check14:49
ggabrielthat's a dangerous feature anyway14:51
ggabrielif i switched it on, my phone would be in silence every day that's somebody's birthday14:51
coderusSfietKonstantinW: it does not give enough time to do anything. Probably destructor of main class or ApplicationWindow Component.onDestruction is good also14:51
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SfietKonstantinWit really depends on the need14:53
coderusSfietKonstantinW: yeah, i'm just suggesting 100% working way for any cases :)14:53
SfietKonstantinWcoderus: but it's a huge hack :(14:54
SfietKonstantinWi don't like delaying application shutdown14:54
citylight2ggabriel: I often have my phone bother me in meetings, then I silence it and forget to resume, only to get criticism from my SO14:54
citylight2I need this14:55
citylight2need to go now14:55
ggabrielyueah, i just tell me SO that i'm working :P14:55
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coderusSfietKonstantinW: but HtheB needs that seems15:03
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coderusalso with my way user will see application window closed and won't spot any activities :)15:04
SfietKonstantinWyes, and that's the worse: hiding stuff to the user15:05
SfietKonstantinWbut well, it indeed depends on the usage :)15:05
coderusyou should hide everything from user, it's the best way to make good application :)15:06
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jusa_fyi Sailor8545 could've done what he wanted temporarily with pactl, after connecting headset on command line: pactl set-source-port source.primary input-builtin_mic15:41
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narchieso.....18:44
narchiewhere is my18:44
narchietablet?18:44
narchieor is it cancelled already?18:44
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narchieor in customs?18:46
narchiecan I pay VAT again?18:46
Obi-Lanlate18:46
narchieoh so can I pay again?18:46
narchieneat18:46
narchiefoxconn empty warehouse18:47
r0kk3rzend of july is current estimate18:48
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Obi-Lanthey sent email about delay in april18:50
coderusomg, i almost forget i paid for tablet :D18:53
baumcoderus: you didn't pay for mine yet...just a reminder :)18:53
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coderusis it for real, or is it was a dream, and no jolla tablet exists?18:53
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protemwhat do you all think about the 4:3 AR on it?19:18
coderusnothing. i have never used any tablet in my life, so i will be very excited anyway :D19:20
protemI suppose only movies will suffer, everything else should benefit19:20
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coderuswill watch old movies then :D19:22
Obi-Lan16:9 is bit too tall when hold portrait19:22
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r0kk3rzhard to pass judgement on a thing i havent seen yet19:31
coderusyeah, i like jolla tablet already, my first tablet :D19:32
mornfallnarchie: traditional jolla scheduling, nevermind :P19:33
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Obi-Lanonly other I know is 4:3 is ms surface 3 & 3 pro19:35
tango_16:9 is very practical when reading webcomics19:38
tango_4:3, less so19:38
tango_most pages are _nearly_ 16:9 portrait19:39
tango_and the 'smartcomic' format is also typically 16:919:39
tango_(landscape)19:39
tango_so I would have probably preferred a 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio, but I'll see when I get mine19:40
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coderusit's best one!19:44
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tango_best one would probably be something like 14:1019:45
tango_which is essentially an A419:45
r0kk3rzscreen size is always such a divisive issue19:47
coderusjolla tablet have best screen dimension!19:48
r0kk3rzwont it be nice when other manufacturers pick up sailfish so we can have more choice19:48
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coderuscool :)19:49
coderusYotaTablet!19:49
tango_I'm still waiting for my foldable tablet19:50
r0kk3rzyotatablet would be cool actually, both proper ereader AND tablet19:50
tango_we're in the III millenium and still engineers haven' t solved the issue of a seamless foldable pane19:50
tango_tsch19:50
tango_and you could put two eink displays on the other side19:50
tango_or something19:51
RzRhi do you still use n9 as backup phone ?19:53
narchieso still nothing19:53
RzRhttps://twitter.com/RzrFreeFr/status/60546149242781696019:53
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RzRcoderus, I just tried here in offline mode and it failed to track20:03
coderusRzR: tried what?20:04
RzRjust walked outdoor and see if gps tracking in offline mode ... I havent used it recently20:06
coderuswell, i really don't knnow how it working internally20:07
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RzRis gps working without agps on android runtime  ?20:12
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phlixii have no idea if this is actually a factor, but when trieng, you should give liek 10 or 20 minutes for "the fix", since the almanach has be be downloaded from the satelites20:18
phlixitrying*20:18
phlixi(without agps)20:18
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phlixibut i remember that, 1,5 years ago when i tested, that the jolla connected to gsm even when in flight mode as soon as you activate gps20:20
phlixibut that is probably fixed long ago20:20
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chem|stRzR: iirc should work as expected, used to be some around 1.0.x versions where 'a'gps was needed for android, what phlixi is referring to should also be fixed some after 1.0.x23:00
chem|stRzR: and yes I used my N9 as backup phone when I had to send in my Jolla for repairs, but since Nokia released HERE for android I just look out to have its battery in a good condition23:01
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HtheBcoderus, are you still here?23:52

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