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| Stskeeps | from meizu's ubuntu page: The goods for the sale, expected to start shipping within weeks | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | of the goods for the developer preview version, the official Meizu purchase recommended that ordinary users to exercise caution | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | in the commodity software systems maintained by the Ubuntu developer Canonical, Meizu technology to provide service only hardware problems | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | (http://store.meizu.com/product/mx4_mon.html#2-1-2 ) | 10:15 |
| r0kk3rz | going to put sailfish on it Stskeeps? | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | it's a locked down phone, not sure why i'd be interested in it | 10:17 |
| r0kk3rz | oh | 10:17 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a shame really | 10:18 |
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| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: any luck with your mass-storage export of the sd-card? | 11:47 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, how much cost mx4 ? | 12:10 |
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| Stskeeps | no clue, it's only sold in china anyway | 12:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i don't think so | 12:10 |
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| Stskeeps | atm | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like the harbour FAQ is out of date | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | still says you cant use qtpositioning | 12:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, in italy 379 euro | 12:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | MTK MT6595 | 12:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | will it works ? | 12:12 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: ? wut | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to ask #ubuntu-touch | 12:13 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | libhybris | 12:13 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#Shared_Libraries << scroll down a bit to the status list | 12:13 |
| r0kk3rz | also gstreamer is now available | 12:14 |
| kimmoli | You can find a list of the currently allowed libraries in allowed_libraries.conf. | 12:14 |
| kimmoli | qtlocation is not available, qtpositioning is | 12:15 |
| kimmoli | avail/allow | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | faqs are not always correct | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:15 |
| kimmoli | libaudioresource please... | 12:16 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like i was getting confused between qtlocation and qtpositioning anyway | 12:16 |
| r0kk3rz | but the note about gstreamer should be removed | 12:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, i think a key will be a programmer heaven | 12:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | actually just iOS is pretty streamlined | 12:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | we create a software in house for iOS and android | 12:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | still not works well on Android due hw and android forks | 12:19 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu3 Pre-Pre-Prerelease :D http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95508 | 15:25 |
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| Helle | hmmm, managed access to the live data of my heart rate monitor | 15:32 |
| Helle | pondering if I can write some interesting app around that | 15:32 |
| Yaniel | make the ambience highlight colour pulse | 15:32 |
| Yaniel | in sync | 15:32 |
| Helle | heh | 15:33 |
| Helle | more thinking "how does one fitness app" | 15:33 |
| Helle | but yes, a joke app might be interesting aswell | 15:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | beat tweeter | 15:46 |
| r0kk3rz | tweets every heart beat | 15:46 |
| r0kk3rz | also a way of letting people know you're still alive | 15:46 |
| Yaniel | "no tweets for over a minute he must be dead" | 15:47 |
| Yaniel | a while later: "sorry guys, had some network issues on the train" | 15:48 |
| Helle | hehehe | 15:50 |
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| Minos` | Hi | 18:44 |
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| Minos | I’m having trouble with my Jolla: I put it in my pocket earlier today, and when I took it out it was permanently locked | 18:45 |
| falfa | last time i put mine in my pocket, when i took it out it was gone | 18:46 |
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| Tegu | :< | 18:46 |
| Minos | XD | 18:46 |
| falfa | hopefully locked too | 18:46 |
| Minos | So, the thing is, wifi is still activated and I still have ssh access with a working devel-su | 18:47 |
| Minos | I was wondering if I could do anything with this? | 18:47 |
| falfa | that is an interesting question | 18:47 |
| tbr | yes can be fixed, needs a jolla employee | 18:49 |
| tbr | it's sunday though | 18:49 |
| svuorela | "permanently locked" ? | 18:50 |
| tbr | svuorela: max tries exceeded | 18:50 |
| svuorela | oh. | 18:50 |
| tbr | svuorela: aren't you a sailor? | 18:51 |
| svuorela | I'm just a passenger. | 18:51 |
| tbr | k | 18:51 |
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| svuorela | ...but maybe I should send a privateer application when my current assignment is up. | 18:52 |
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| Minos | ok, so if anyone wanted to know, you just have to vi /usr/share/lipstick/devicelock/devicelock_settings.conf and set maximum_attemps to -1 | 18:59 |
| Minos | (found the answer there: https://together.jolla.com/question/91297/how-to-recover-from-permanent-device-lock/) | 18:59 |
| Minos | dumbest feature in the world, btw | 19:00 |
| Minos | It would make sense if the jolla had a decent device lock, which it doesn’t have | 19:00 |
| svuorela | how would one recover if one didn't have root ? | 19:01 |
| Minos | Well device locking does’n apply to ssh and developper mode | 19:01 |
| Nicd- | Minos: if it's the dumbest feature, why did you set a limit for the lock code? :P | 19:01 |
| Minos | Well in lost of devices, the limit only locks your device for a certain amount of time | 19:02 |
| Minos | not forever | 19:02 |
| Minos | lots* | 19:02 |
| Acce | long enough lock time would indeed be enough | 19:02 |
| Minos | Also, I didn’t expect my jolla to type 10 times some random code followed by "Submit" while being in my pocket | 19:04 |
| Nicd- | I set the limit to 50 for that reason | 19:04 |
| Minos | I mean, the screen locking feature must be REALLY bad for that to happen | 19:04 |
| Nicd- | but reading these reports, maybe I should set it to unlimited... :P | 19:04 |
| Minos | Well it sucks for security, but yeah, I don’t really see any other option :D | 19:05 |
| Yaniel | I seem to have more trouble getting it to register any touchscreen input in the first place | 19:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Minos: i would check the operation of your prox sensor | 19:13 |
| Minos | the little thing on the upper right corner ? | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 19:15 |
| Minos | It seems to be working since I can’t unlock my phone by touching the screen if it’s hidden | 19:15 |
| r0kk3rz | you can test it with mce-tool | 19:15 |
| japa-fi | I have a small issue with patchmanager: when I select patchmanager from settings, it just keeps loading and loading, never starts. | 19:20 |
| japa-fi | Anyone come across the same? | 19:20 |
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| coderus | japa-fi: start jolla-settings from terminal and check what is wrong | 19:21 |
| japa-fi | as root or regular user? | 19:21 |
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| tbr | Minos: with developer mode and ssh on, you have no expectation of privacy | 19:23 |
| tbr | Minos: aka, certain things are less or insecure, like you found out | 19:23 |
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| japa-fi | Strange: started it via terminal. Too much text. Closed the app, decided to ssh into jolla for better terminal. | 19:24 |
| japa-fi | Started the application, everything works! | 19:24 |
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| coderus | japa-fi: :D | 19:25 |
| japa-fi | Now it works, even when started from settings menu | 19:26 |
| Minos | tbr: you still need to know the ssh password, and that would work only on the few home wifi networks I have registered :D | 19:26 |
| Minos | But yeah, I expect there are other flaws | 19:26 |
| coderus | install two-factor authentication pam module for ssh :D | 19:26 |
| tbr | Minos: it used to also enable usb-networking, but IIRC that's now off until you unlock the screen | 19:28 |
| Minos | oh, useful | 19:29 |
| tbr | Minos: also depending on your ISP the phone might be reachable by SSH from that side, haven't checked if there was an iptables rule | 19:30 |
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| Minos | I don’t see any iptables rule nor anything in /etc/hosts.deny | 19:34 |
| Minos | although my ISP only routes 10.* IP addresses, so nothing to fear from that end (apart from the ISP itself) | 19:35 |
| Minos | (but why would they need to access my phone when they already transmit all my unencrypted text messages and phone calls???) | 19:36 |
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| coderus | not they, any sers of your network | 19:37 |
| coderus | users* | 19:37 |
| Minos | Well I expect the ISP’s routing policy to forbid that | 19:38 |
| Minos | But I actually never checked ^^' | 19:38 |
| temmi_moo | many isps don't actually do any kind of filtering unless you actively pay for that | 19:39 |
| temmi_moo | they'd need to do ingress filtering on the client edge routers or service access points and that's kind of expensive compared to not filtering any | 19:40 |
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| Minos | OK this is just fucked up, my device just perm-lockd itself again | 19:40 |
| Minos | it was just laying on the table | 19:40 |
| Nicd- | dude, se it to unlimited :D | 19:41 |
| Minos | I did | 19:42 |
| Minos | I set it back to 10 and the deviced unlocked itself | 19:42 |
| Minos | But it seems that everytime I lock the phone, it goes directly to permanent lock | 19:43 |
| Minos | the only way to unlock it is to change the value of maximum_attempts in the appropriate file | 19:44 |
| Minos | (even setting it to a lower one does the trick, btw) | 19:44 |
| Nicd- | set it to unlimited, don't set back to limit | 19:44 |
| Minos | Setting it to unlimited doesn’t prevent the phone from going to permanent lock | 19:44 |
| coderus | why? | 19:45 |
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| Minos | well, I don’t know :D | 19:46 |
| Minos | But it seems that rebooting it solved the problem | 19:46 |
| * Nicd- sets his device lock tries to unlimited... | 19:51 | |
| Nicd- | I guess the code is long enough to do that | 19:52 |
| coderus | Nicd-: only numbers? | 19:57 |
| Nicd- | coderus: yep. but I'm mainly worrying about simple crooks that try to unlock it by typing with the keypad | 19:58 |
| coderus | yeah :) | 19:58 |
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| sakustar | r0kk3rz: the screen still opens in pocket if power button goes down. so probably not related to proximity sensor | 20:47 |
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