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| Fusl | i have a problem with my jolla phone's wifi, the ping delay is peaking up to 5 seconds at some times | 10:49 |
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| Fusl | i can't exactly reproduce this nor do i know when this happens, but it randomly happens | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | Fusl: is the scren off when you do it? | 10:50 |
| Fusl | yes | 10:50 |
| Fusl | i'm listening to music which is stored on my NFS share | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | you're probably hitting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Multimedia_Extensions then | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | which helps keep power usage of wlan down | 10:51 |
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| Fusl | can this be somehow disabled or patched out? it's very annoying because 5 seconds lag make the nfs stream break and i just can't listen to music or watch anything | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can disable it on your AP but the result may very well be that you have only 4 hours of battery life on your device :) | 10:52 |
| flux | shouldn't these kind of power saving systems work without affecting usage?-o | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | pfft :) | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | the screen off thing makes me wonder if whatever app you are using isn't properly preventing suspend though | 10:53 |
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| pp | ooh, update! | 11:01 |
| Scelt | ! | 11:01 |
| Scelt | who | 11:02 |
| Scelt | where | 11:02 |
| Scelt | badger? | 11:02 |
| pp | mushroom, 23 mins ago on tjc and just downloading :-) | 11:02 |
| Nicd- | updaaaaate | 11:02 |
| tadzik | :o | 11:02 |
| Nicd- | woo | 11:02 |
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| pp | looks like the thing extra early adopters have had for a week or two :-) | 11:02 |
| Aard | pp: even better, 10 minutes after publishing this I published 1.1.5 RC2 internally :p | 11:02 |
| Aard | pp: the last changes into what was published today are from 10.4. | 11:05 |
| Scelt | about facebook api. what protocol the bitlbee is using then? | 11:05 |
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| Aard | Scelt: bitlbee will probably stop working in about two weeks | 11:06 |
| Fusl | "Version 1.1.2.16" "Up to date" - update? where? | 11:06 |
| Aard | Fusl: https://together.jolla.com/question/89804/release-notes-114-aijanpaivanjarvi-early-access/ | 11:06 |
| Scelt | Aard: I think that bitlbee just upgraded their API: https://github.com/jgeboski/bitlbee-facebook | 11:06 |
| Scelt | Aard: or just changed to use the fb mobile api | 11:07 |
| Fusl | how2early-access? | 11:07 |
| Scelt | Aard: ins't that also an option for Jolla? | 11:08 |
| Aard | Scelt: interesting, need to check that out. I'm using facebook chat only via bitlbee, and was pondering dropping facebook completely now | 11:08 |
| Aard | Scelt: needs checking, for us it can be a legal problem as well | 11:08 |
| * gexc updating | 11:09 | |
| gexc | no lake image though | 11:09 |
| gexc | nevermind, see it now | 11:09 |
| Scelt | Aard: sure, just wanting to let you know about that option. I know that fb messaging is a big deal for a lot of people | 11:09 |
| pp | hmn, wonder how hacky telepath-bitlbee would be :D | 11:09 |
| pp | +y | 11:09 |
| Aard | pp: feel free to write it (but not using python) | 11:10 |
| Nicd- | installing \o/ | 11:10 |
| xfade_ | As facebook is turning messenger into a platform, I guess 3rd party will go away real soon. | 11:10 |
| * pp attempts to find copious free time | 11:10 | |
| * pp fails | 11:10 | |
| xfade_ | You can now write apps running inside facebook messenger ;) | 11:10 |
| * Aard offers pp a cookie and 2 eur | 11:10 | |
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| Scelt | we all know that fb messenger is a big pile of crap but it's not about our opinions when you want to get the big crowd to use your product | 11:12 |
| tadzik | EVERYONE REMEMBER TO UNAPPLY PATCHMANAGER PATCHES | 11:14 |
| politie | why? is there an update? | 11:14 |
| Aard | tadzik: did you break your device? :) | 11:14 |
| tadzik | Aard: no, but it gave me a bit of an annoyance on last update {:) | 11:15 |
| tadzik | and the one before... | 11:15 |
| tadzik | it only breaks patchmanager, not the device itself :) | 11:15 |
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| HtheB | kimmoli: ping | 11:22 |
| kimmoli | HtheB: pong | 11:22 |
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| Yaniel | xfade_: you mean msn messenger? | 11:24 |
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| Nicd- | holy moly! the transitions changed! | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | wha- | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | nevermind, I'll just see for myself | 11:27 |
| coderus | Aard: is there some dbus signal emitted before sailfish upgrade started? if so we can hanle it and unapply all patches in patchmanager | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | ...once the update gets downloaded over this sorry excuse for a network...eventually | 11:28 |
| Nicd- | messages app cover seems to be fixed \o/ | 11:28 |
| Yaniel | either they've coated this building with tin foil secretly or someone has EMP'd the cell tower | 11:29 |
| tadzik | yep, it's nice :) | 11:35 |
| tadzik | my favourite patches still work, even | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | did this update already run btrfs balance during installation? or the next one? | 11:37 |
| temmi_hoo | would it be possible to somehow get rid of btrfs? | 11:38 |
| coderus | i will release all my patches for u12 today | 11:38 |
| coderus | temmi_hoo: probably not, because of qualcomm | 11:38 |
| temmi_hoo | uh | 11:39 |
| xfade_ | Nicd-: this one introduces a once a week balancer, the next one will do balance before update if everything goes well. | 11:39 |
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| Aard | xfade_: Nicd-: due to problems with systemd timers _only_ if your phone is not in suspend tuesday night | 11:39 |
| xfade_ | Well, yeah, if you charge at night ;) | 11:39 |
| xfade_ | At least the kernel has the fixes in place so that it does not crash in kernel during balance ;) | 11:40 |
| Nicd- | cool | 11:40 |
| Nicd- | that's a good feature, don't have to worry about btrfs anymore | 11:41 |
| Yaniel | around what time on tuesday night? | 11:41 |
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| xfade_ | 2am I think | 11:41 |
| tadzik | split keyboard looks nice | 11:41 |
| Yaniel | okay that should be fine | 11:42 |
| * Mirv upgrading! | 11:42 | |
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| Nicd- | maps has an update but can't install it. I think this has happened before? | 11:43 |
| coderus | anyone pressing on word suggestion instead of spacebar using split keyboard, or it's only me? | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | "Problem with store: Maps is already up to date" :) | 11:44 |
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| xfade_ | Nicd-: fixing | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | refresh cover action icon was also changed | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | to be less circly | 11:44 |
| coderus | many icons are changed :) | 11:45 |
| Summer | need upgrade again if upgrade previously? | 11:45 |
| coderus | Summer: if you not on 1.1.4.28 sure | 11:45 |
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| pp | hmn, facebook relogin page was in french :D (dunno if I clicked something by accident, that dialog is just awful... ) | 11:47 |
| Summer | if previous i do version --dup? | 11:47 |
| pp | (not that much can be done since it's just facebooks html :-) ) | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | Summer: you should get a notification about a system update soon if you have signed up for early access | 11:48 |
| coderus | Summer: if you have 1.1.4.28 there is nothing to upgrade | 11:48 |
| Summer | ok | 11:48 |
| Nicd- | sailfish should now theoretically have the required connman patches to do dual stack ipv4v6? | 11:49 |
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| Yaniel | is it just me or is the fingerterm icon more blue/turquoise than it used to | 11:50 |
| coderus | Nicd-: check connman commits and connman version in this update | 11:50 |
| coderus | Yaniel: many icons are changed | 11:50 |
| pp | supposedly /bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext.SetProperty string:"Protocol" variant:string:"dual" should work | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | Yaniel: it's not just you | 11:50 |
| Yaniel | wait why is airplane mode suddenly on | 11:51 |
| Yaniel | and it's only showing that in settings | 11:51 |
| Yaniel | the connectivity indicator just shows in the "no connection" state | 11:51 |
| coderus | Yaniel: look, maybe an airplane is flying over your head right now | 11:51 |
| Yaniel | nope | 11:51 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: networking not started? | 11:51 |
| Yaniel | unless rain clouds are airplanes now | 11:52 |
| Yaniel | networking not started would make sense | 11:53 |
| Yaniel | but why is it saying in settings that airplane mode is on then | 11:53 |
| coderus | Yaniel: because of system failure for example? | 11:53 |
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| Yaniel | oh looks like update failed | 11:54 |
| Yaniel | got the notification again and device info says 1.1.2 | 11:55 |
| xfade_ | Yeah, it can be a side effect of an aborted update | 11:55 |
| xfade_ | journal can show what it tried to install and failed | 11:55 |
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| Yaniel | now it looks right | 12:06 |
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| Yaniel | but battery and signal indicators are still in no data mode | 12:06 |
| xfade_ | Still looks like you are missing some packages then. statefs related probably | 12:07 |
| Scelt | Nicd-: my maps update fails too | 12:07 |
| Yaniel | terminal shenaningans it is, then | 12:10 |
| Yaniel | what are the relevant incantations? | 12:10 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: ssu re 1.1.4.28; version --dup | 12:11 |
| xfade_ | But make sure you disable all your other repos first. | 12:12 |
| Yaniel | I only have mer-tools enabled manually | 12:12 |
| Yaniel | enabled repos (user) lists mer-tools and store | 12:12 |
| xfade_ | Should be fine, you just don't want all kinds of weird libs pulled in from a random openrepos repo ;) | 12:13 |
| Yaniel | yeah | 12:13 |
| Yaniel | hmm it only updated the first one ambience | 12:16 |
| Yaniel | "org.freedesktop.PackageKit had owner '' but we thought it was ':1.63'" is this bad? | 12:21 |
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| xfade_ | nope | 12:26 |
| Yaniel | hm, still no change | 12:27 |
| Yaniel | network clearly works though | 12:27 |
| TemeV | I installed update and now I only have my background image wisible, nothing else | 12:31 |
| TemeV | of events screen flashes when swiping from bottom edge | 12:31 |
| Yaniel | sudden shutdown O.o | 12:32 |
| Yaniel | possibly caused by sailfish-utilities | 12:32 |
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| Yaniel | yup, apparently "clear package cache" causes an immediate reboot for some reason | 12:34 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: are you sure you are not out of disk space? | 12:34 |
| Yaniel | bleh | 12:35 |
| Yaniel | looks like I indeed am | 12:35 |
| xfade_ | So it will help to clean some up and do some balancing | 12:36 |
| Yaniel | well, "out of disk space" like usual | 12:36 |
| Yaniel | can I force a complete reinstall of the update somehow? | 12:37 |
| Yaniel | without factory reset | 12:37 |
| xfade_ | Probably not needed | 12:37 |
| xfade_ | You probably were so out of space that some parts didn't start up correctly | 12:38 |
| Sail0r | the new fading style is strange | 12:42 |
| Sail0r | because it stays longer in foreground | 12:42 |
| Yaniel | still no luck :( | 12:50 |
| Yaniel | sooo... factory reset? | 12:51 |
| Yaniel | or can I somehow reinstall everything without doing that | 12:52 |
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| deztructor | Yaniel: about utilities: just read what is written in "clear package cache" description above the button ;) - "Restart is needed" | 13:00 |
| Fusl | Stskeeps: wifi still has ping delays up to 5 seconds even when the display is turned on now | 13:02 |
| Fusl | 755 packets transmitted, 740 received, 1% packet loss, time 152505ms | 13:02 |
| Fusl | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.381/227.514/3271.662/501.902 ms, pipe 17 | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | Fusl: what AP? | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | wifi modules and their interaction with AP is a strange science | 13:02 |
| Fusl | Stskeeps: Ubiquiti UniFi AP-Pro | 13:02 |
| temmi_hoo | wifi is strange voodoo that at times attempts resembling science | 13:03 |
| coderus | Yaniel: so, you added more free space and now want to complete upgrade or what? | 13:04 |
| Fusl | the inifi interface shows signal strength 52% (-63 dBm) | 13:04 |
| Fusl | whereas my iphone shows 99% (-49 dBm) | 13:04 |
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| arvut | any specific bluetooth kb you can recommend for my jolla? | 13:14 |
| Fusl | Stskeeps: nevermind... i just saw that the jolla is connected to the wrong access point, i reconnected it and it now selected the right one and has 99% (-45 dBm) and no more high ping | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | Fusl: ah | 13:16 |
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| Summer | landscape of map? no effect of it | 13:20 |
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| xfade_ | Summer: maps will come later today, we have a slight publishing issue | 13:22 |
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| Summer | thx | 13:23 |
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| Yaniel | coderus: yes | 13:35 |
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| Yaniel | or rather, redo it | 13:36 |
| Yaniel | since version --dup says up to date | 13:36 |
| Yaniel | but things are evidently broken | 13:36 |
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| Yaniel | xfade_: any clues? or should I just reset now | 13:39 |
| arvut | hey yaniel, jolla has kernel modules for bluetooth keyboards, right? | 13:40 |
| scottc | i've used a bluetooth keyboard before, if that's what you mean | 13:41 |
| scottc | i think o_o | 13:41 |
| arvut | with the jolla? | 13:41 |
| Yaniel | bluetooth keyboards have been supported for a while iirc | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | just go to settings -> system -> bluetooth and pair it | 13:42 |
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| coderus | Yaniel: what is your ssu re? | 13:44 |
| scottc | arvut: yes | 13:44 |
| Yaniel | 1.1.4.28 | 13:45 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: so after cleaning up and balancing + reboot there still are issues? | 13:45 |
| Yaniel | yes | 13:46 |
| Yaniel | network and battery indicators are dead | 13:46 |
| coderus | Yaniel: but network is working? | 13:46 |
| Yaniel | settings -> system -> battery says battery state unknown | 13:46 |
| xfade_ | sounds like statefs | 13:47 |
| Yaniel | I'm ircing over it sonyes | 13:47 |
| coderus | sounds like statefs problem | 13:47 |
| xfade_ | You can try to force reinstall those packages | 13:47 |
| coderus | pkcon install statefs statefs-provider-ofono statefs-provider-connman statefs-provider-power-udev at least | 13:48 |
| lainwir3d_ | wait, what ? update ? | 13:48 |
| Yaniel | lainwir3d_: early access atm | 13:48 |
| coderus | maybe statefs-qt5 and statefs-provider-qt5 also | 13:48 |
| lainwir3d_ | :-o | 13:49 |
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| birdzhang-jolla | hello,can somebody help me? | 13:53 |
| Scelt | birdzhang-jolla: ABOUT WHAT | 13:53 |
| Scelt | WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU MANO | 13:53 |
| Yaniel | that seems to have fixed it, thanks | 13:54 |
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| tadzik | we can't until we know what's the problem :) | 13:54 |
| birdzhang-jolla | what's the root name at /dev | 13:54 |
| birdzhang-jolla | i want mount sailfish filesystem at recovery model | 13:54 |
| birdzhang-jolla | i know mmcblk1p1 is sdcard | 13:55 |
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| kontio | /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 13:56 |
| birdzhang-jolla | thank you | 13:56 |
| Yaniel | still a bit unsure as to how stable the state of the system is now | 13:56 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: btw, how did you update? Using settings? | 13:57 |
| Yaniel | yes | 13:57 |
| kontio | birdzhang-jolla: note there is a btrfs with 2 subvolumes, one / one /home in case you want to access /home you have to mount it like "mount -o subvol=@home /dev/mmcblk0p28 TARGET" w/o spcifying subvol it takes / | 13:59 |
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| Aard | actually it has 4 subvolumes (/, home, and recovery volumes for both) | 14:00 |
| birdzhang-jolla | thank you | 14:00 |
| birdzhang-jolla | i want mount / | 14:00 |
| birdzhang-jolla | kontio: so,i need mount -o subvol=@/ /dev/mmcblk0p28 TARGET ? | 14:02 |
| kontio | birdzhang-jolla: yeah you can also specify it explicit, but not needed | 14:03 |
| kontio | just 'mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 TARGET' will mount you / | 14:03 |
| birdzhang-jolla | thank you | 14:04 |
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| birdzhang-jolla | I'm fixing my friend's jolla | 14:09 |
| birdzhang-jolla | ;) | 14:09 |
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| birdzhang-jolla | there's noly nemo at his root content | 14:10 |
| birdzhang-jolla | i use snapshots try to fix it | 14:10 |
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| chem|st | birdzhang-jolla: make sure the snapshot does not have a lock-code set (not deactivated, really none set!) | 14:12 |
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| Lipevakala_ | Crap, did forget Patchmanager, damm me... | 14:23 |
| tadzik | hah | 14:25 |
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| tadzik | I warned :D | 14:25 |
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| Lipevakala_ | Heh, im idiot. | 14:26 |
| tadzik | easy to forget | 14:27 |
| tadzik | good thing it's fixable, and iirc ausmt even got an ability to figure this situation out somehow | 14:27 |
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| Lipevakala_ | How? | 14:29 |
| tadzik | I'unno | 14:30 |
| tadzik | saw that in the changelog | 14:30 |
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| Tofe | What is disabled for Facebook, exactly? everything? | 14:35 |
| ninnnu_ | At least their DNS-servers are down | 14:36 |
| tadzik | chat, friends | 14:36 |
| tadzik | I mean, contact sync | 14:36 |
| tadzik | activity feed may still be up | 14:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | tadzik: forget about activity feed too | 14:36 |
| tadzik | ah | 14:36 |
| Tofe | ok, that's quite a pity. Any news about a possible evolution of the situation in the future? | 14:36 |
| tadzik | well, the TOS in "add account" still tell about all the things | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe activity feed as a link to Facebook maybe | 14:37 |
| Tofe | Last time I checked, there was only "we are discussing the issue with them" | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | only the TOS was not updated | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Tofe: => I restarted to work on Friends | 14:37 |
| Tofe | SfietKonstantinW: great :) I never stopped using it | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well | 14:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the old friends (1.0.X) uses old API | 14:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and is getting broken now | 14:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I hope that the new one will be better :) | 14:38 |
| Tofe | Ah, ok, I would have stopped, then :p | 14:39 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | getting broken = friends only displays facebook users using friends | 14:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and some stuff | 14:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | like events feed broken | 14:39 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | jolla's weather app lives one day in the future after the update? | 14:55 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | maybe it is jus me | 14:56 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | http://i.imgur.com/v520jzI.png | 14:59 |
| tadzik | not sure what it says on your screen, but mine says "today, friday" | 15:00 |
| tadzik | which sounds correct | 15:00 |
| flux | strange | 15:00 |
| flux | here is thursda! | 15:00 |
| flux | +y | 15:00 |
| urs | Don't confuse us with facts. If we want it to be friday, it better be friday! | 15:00 |
| flux | too much rebecca black? | 15:01 |
| tadzik | "it's not a phase mom, I really am friday!" | 15:01 |
| Tofe | the french version says thursday | 15:01 |
| Tofe | maybe the jetlag ? :) | 15:01 |
| tadzik | at least you have FORECA visible | 15:02 |
| ggabriel | maybe it's actually forecasting the weather for tomorrow and for today you can look out the window? | 15:02 |
| tadzik | here the weather app is flickable so you can reach FORECA if you want to | 15:02 |
| tadzik | in case you didn't already see FORECA everywhere else in the app | 15:02 |
| tadzik | FORECA FORECA FORECA | 15:02 |
| flux | hey, it's nice that Jolla has got at least some businesses interested in it ;-) | 15:03 |
| tadzik | troo :) | 15:03 |
| tadzik | and angry birds | 15:03 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | it says weather today 17.4.2015 and next is saturday | 15:03 |
| baum | uhm - is there a way to "blacklist" certain phonenumbers? | 15:03 |
| ggabriel | HarhaanJohtaja: is your date ok? | 15:03 |
| Fusl | for me it says today, friday, saturday, ... | 15:03 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | yes | 15:03 |
| Fusl | and it's 16 April 2015 here :) | 15:04 |
| Tofe | Maybe they at last implemented the potential quantic shift | 15:04 |
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| jaacoppi | the weather is fine here | 15:04 |
| Tofe | Are we talking with people from the future, then? | 15:05 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | try to open it from the evetsns screen | 15:05 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | if I open the real app it shows correctly | 15:05 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | from the icon | 15:05 |
| Fusl | Tofe: yes | 15:05 |
| Tofe | HarhaanJohtaja: I have the correct data from wherever I open it | 15:05 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | yes i have it now too | 15:06 |
| flux | foreca must have fixed their data. | 15:06 |
| jaacoppi | Tofe: naturally. one can't send packets to the past and expect a reply | 15:06 |
| Tofe | jaacoppi: depends, maybe this IRC server implements IPoT | 15:07 |
| jaacoppi | I told you yesterday it doesn't, didn't you get my message? | 15:10 |
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| Tofe | Ah ! Must have forgotten :) | 15:12 |
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| Tofe | Well well, this little update preview seems all fine | 15:21 |
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| louisdk | Currently on 1.1.2.16 and signed up for early access. However it seems like my "Updates for SailfishOS" entry under System is somehow gone. | 15:43 |
| Yaniel | wat | 15:43 |
| louisdk | Yaniel, yes. I really don't know why. I don't remember to have removed any key packages. | 15:45 |
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| louisdk | Yaniel, I have dev mode access. How do I validate if any packages is missing compared to a standard 1.1.2.16 install? | 15:47 |
| Fusl | fastest way i found is pkcon get-packages | grep ^Installed | 15:49 |
| Fusl | this is the output of mine: https://scr.meo.ws/paste/2015-04-16-17-50-02-yQFhbCTd.txt | 15:50 |
| Fusl | you can diff it with yours | 15:50 |
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| coderus | louisdk: jolla-settings-sailfishos package | 15:54 |
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| louisdk | coderus, thanks. Now "Updates for SailfishOS" is backup, however I can only backup my playlists and notes. | 16:18 |
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| louisdk | *back | 16:19 |
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| * attah dives in | 16:25 | |
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| r0kk3rz | was the mpris controls on the lock screen released? | 16:47 |
| r0kk3rz | or just the components | 16:47 |
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| louisdk | Fusl, it quite a pain to compare two output with differrent version numbers. | 16:58 |
| Fusl | tools like sed/awk exist, also iirc i have mine updated to latest version | 16:59 |
| Fusl | also, while doing "pkcon update" > Fatal error: File './rpms/sailfish-weather-all-translations-pack-0.0.2-10.2.2.jolla.noarch.rpm' not found on medium 'https://store-repository.jolla.com/SbJ/armv7hl/?version=1.1.4.28&credentials=store' | 16:59 |
| louisdk | Fusl, but some of the packages only have a 2 letter names. | 17:00 |
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| Fusl | you can diff it with yours | 17:00 |
| Fusl | oops | 17:00 |
| Fusl | ah yea, thats true | 17:00 |
| louisdk | Fusl, the problem is that I can currently only backup notes and playlists from backup entry, so I need to figure out if I'm missing some critical packages before doing 1.1.2 -> 1.1.4 | 17:02 |
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| rinaku | Hi. I just bought a jolla phone and some categories in the store app are empty, e.g. the jolla category shows "You will be able to view content here once it is available". I was able to install a game app though. Any idea what might be wrong? | 17:14 |
| r0kk3rz | rinaku: have you updated? | 17:15 |
| r0kk3rz | as in system update | 17:15 |
| rinaku | r0kk3rz: About product > Check for updates? | 17:15 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 17:15 |
| rinaku | says "Up to date" | 17:16 |
| r0kk3rz | the fact that you've said from that path, means you are running an ancient version | 17:16 |
| rinaku | do you know how I can update? | 17:16 |
| r0kk3rz | latest stable is 1.1.2.16 | 17:16 |
| r0kk3rz | you might have to do it from terminal | 17:16 |
| rinaku | ok I'll try to find a tuto | 17:18 |
| louisdk | Fusl, jolla-vault-units the-vault was missing. | 17:18 |
| Fusl | rinaku: https://together.jolla.com/question/83369/jolla-sailfish-1025-doesnt-find-updates/ | 17:20 |
| Fusl | had the exact same problem, this fixed it | 17:20 |
| r0kk3rz | ah, theres the link i was looking for | 17:20 |
| r0kk3rz | knew there was one somewhere | 17:20 |
| rinaku | thanks | 17:20 |
| rinaku | this means the terminal on the phone, and I get it by activating dev mode? | 17:20 |
| Fusl | yes | 17:21 |
| rinaku | ok | 17:21 |
| Fusl | you can then just ssh into it over network or usb cable | 17:21 |
| Fusl | (network > needs to be in the same wifi) | 17:21 |
| rinaku | Fusl: with what uid/passwd? | 17:21 |
| Fusl | user is nemo | 17:22 |
| Yaniel | nemo and whatever you set in settings -> system -> dev mode | 17:22 |
| Fusl | ^ | 17:22 |
| rinaku | thanks | 17:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | rinaku: also from that link, replace the version number with 1.1.2.16 | 17:23 |
| rinaku | ok | 17:24 |
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| rinaku | updating... | 17:26 |
| rinaku | I thought this would be more user friendly, but I don't mind | 17:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | unfortunately the jolla phone comes with a very old (and buggy) version of sailfish | 17:28 |
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| Summer | as changelog said, jolla clock have landscape mode? seem i cant active it | 17:29 |
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| attah | How come this hasn't been fixed? https://together.jolla.com/question/71883/percent-encoded-tel-links-broken-becomes-2/ | 17:44 |
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| attah | It's one ******* line! And i even posted the diff! | 17:44 |
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| Sail0r | it was more needed to change the swipe animations then fixing such things ;) | 17:54 |
| attah | Just that tel links are fubar.. no biggie.. why not just remove handling of them altogether? | 17:55 |
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| eye_a | is there any alternitive to KIK for jolla sailfish | 18:03 |
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| TemeV | How can I connect to wifi in recovery terminal? | 18:31 |
| r0kk3rz | TemeV: you have connman-tools installed? | 18:31 |
| TemeV | nope, doesn't seem like that | 18:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | TemeV: then im not sure | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | since thats what gets you connmanctl | 18:39 |
| TemeV | Damn, any other way to save my Jolla. Update didn't go well and now the phone is stuck in a empty lock screen | 18:41 |
| TemeV | ? | 18:41 |
| TemeV | Factory reset of course, but I would want to go that way | 18:41 |
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| TemeV | Siithn ei tainnut olla edes sorsia missn, en asentais | 18:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | you might be able to tether it over rndis | 18:52 |
| TemeV | rndis? Seems like some microsoft propietary thing, do I need Windows for that? | 18:55 |
| teve | install connman-tools rpm from sd-card? | 18:55 |
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| coderus | TemeV: if your phone autoconnecting to wifi you can accesss it | 18:56 |
| coderus | if not you can only recover it in recovery mode via telnet | 18:56 |
| Yaniel | TemeV: there is HoRNDIS for mac and usbnet for linux | 18:57 |
| TemeV | coderus: it didn't autoconnect, that would have been too easy :) | 18:57 |
| TemeV | and I'm using telnet, I just need to get to internet to get the missing packages. I guess. | 18:59 |
| TemeV | teve: any idea where to get the binary? | 18:59 |
| teve | http://www.puuppa.org/~teve/connman-tools-1.24+git81-1.11.1.armv7hl.rpm | 19:02 |
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| TemeV | teve: thanks, I'll give it a try | 19:04 |
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| coderus | do you know how to mount partition, bind folders and chroot to be able to install packages in recovery? | 19:07 |
| coderus | recovery != phone shell | 19:08 |
| TemeV | yes, I know the basics | 19:09 |
| TemeV | bash-3.2# pkcon install-local connman-tools-1.24+git81-1.11.1.armv7hl.rpm | 19:10 |
| TemeV | Failed to contact PackageKit: Could not connect: Connection refused | 19:10 |
| TemeV | What am I missing now? | 19:10 |
| coderus | use rpm | 19:10 |
| coderus | pkcon uses packagekit bus | 19:11 |
| Yaniel | rpm -i file.rpm | 19:11 |
| TemeV | ah, ok | 19:11 |
| TemeV | error: Failed dependencies: connman = 1.24+git81-1.11.1 is needed by connman-tools-1.24+git81-1.11.1.armv7hl | 19:11 |
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| TemeV | rpm -q connman | 19:13 |
| TemeV | connman-1.24+git65.2-1.9.1.armv7hl | 19:13 |
| TemeV | I guess I need older connmann-tools | 19:13 |
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| Yaniel | heh, update brough cover art back to media player | 19:19 |
| Yaniel | works perfectly well now | 19:19 |
| Yaniel | ...if and only if the files are mp3 with external covers | 19:19 |
| TemeV | Argh, | 19:20 |
| TemeV | I guess I'll just backup everything and factory reset | 19:21 |
| teve | maybe you can install with --force that rpm unless someone else downloads older rpm for you. | 19:21 |
| TemeV | --force seems to have no effect | 19:23 |
| TemeV | rpm man page suggest --force dosn't ignore dependecies | 19:24 |
| teve | yeah, --nodeps | 19:24 |
| TemeV | yeah, that works but still no connmanctl | 19:26 |
| teve | /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl ? | 19:27 |
| TemeV | ah, I was looking in /usr/bin | 19:27 |
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| TemeV | Error: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused | 19:33 |
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| TemeV | so connman is probably not running | 19:34 |
| TemeV | and I guess the whole dbus is not running | 19:34 |
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| TemeV | Ah, init scripts are not executed on chroot of course. I guess I'm running out of Linux knowledge to solve this. | 19:39 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds borken TemeV | 19:41 |
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| coderus | TemeV: but well, why you need connman tools to fix your not loading homescreen? | 19:46 |
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| TemeV | coderus: I'm gessing some packages didn't get installed on update. If I just had some internet I could version --dup and see if it fixes | 19:48 |
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| TemeV | *guessing | 19:50 |
| r0kk3rz | its not easier to bridge the rndis interface to your lan connection on your pc? | 19:51 |
| TemeV | I have no idea how to do that :) So much googling... | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | hah | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | what operating system are you running? | 19:52 |
| TemeV | Linux Mint | 19:53 |
| r0kk3rz | mmm then its going to require mucking around with iptables | 19:53 |
| TemeV | I tried to bridge with this guide, but then even the telnet connection broke http://xmodulo.com/how-to-configure-linux-bridge-interface.html | 19:59 |
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| TemeV | But now that I think about it, it is obvious it isn't going to work like that... | 20:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | never used brctl | 20:05 |
| r0kk3rz | ive done it in the past with iptables | 20:06 |
| r0kk3rz | http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html | 20:06 |
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| TemeV | doesn't work | 20:16 |
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| TemeV | Factory reset is on the way. Thanks anyway for your efforts everyone! | 20:20 |
| TemeV | Oh, that was fast | 20:22 |
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| HtheB | this is maybe something interesting for you guys: | 20:29 |
| HtheB | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1467422#post1467422 | 20:29 |
| xfade_ | Maps update should be available now btw. | 20:29 |
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| coderus | xfade_ thanks, updated maps with no errors | 20:39 |
| xfade_ | coderus: Good to know. | 20:41 |
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| cvp_ | \o | 20:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | landscape mode works | 20:46 |
| zetaz | about the patches, can someone install the 5x6 launcher patch with u14 ? Or is it only something with my config ? | 20:47 |
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| coderus | zetaz: u13, and no, this patch should be modified also, as many other patches. | 20:55 |
| zetaz | coderus: hi. Thanks for the confirmation. | 20:55 |
| zetaz | coderus: The voicemail patch still applies, but didn't work (no icon shown when I left a test voicemail...). Not tried with your daemon, so can't say right now if the problem is in the patch (like an image that disappeared), or due to changes in ofono... | 20:57 |
| zetaz | Not much times to check that in the coming days, but will at least try with the daemon | 20:57 |
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| coderus | zetaz: i have no voiccemail support on my number, i can't check it. | 21:06 |
| zetaz | coderus: yeah, I know, just wanted to let you know, you may have questions about it. If I get time to find something, I will try to post it in TMO. | 21:07 |
| coderus | Jolla thinks nobody wants voicemails in 2015, right? | 21:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | since we now have voice recorder, i should try and make voicemail app | 21:14 |
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| zetaz | r0kk3rz: voice recorder only works when phone has network coverage. | 21:56 |
| zetaz | Murphy's law suggest that people only call you when you don't have network (in subway, elevators, countryside) ;) | 21:56 |
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| sakustar | jolla doesnt drop out of network ? | 22:04 |
| sakustar | like android phones | 22:04 |
| sakustar | and you only notice when trying to make a call | 22:04 |
| sakustar | :D | 22:04 |
| Aard | zetaz: good, I don't like when people call me :p | 22:04 |
| zetaz | Aard: :D | 22:05 |
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| Fusl | is there a .patch or patch-howto for removing the keyboard word suggestion thingy and the caps on first letter thing? | 22:30 |
| HtheB | yes, you can remove tx9 | 22:32 |
| HtheB | need to uninstall it | 22:32 |
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| HtheB | about caps first letter: thats what I bother too | 22:33 |
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| HtheB | thats why I have this right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLD3M_zv5Bo | 22:33 |
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| Fusl | HtheB: how do i uninstall it? | 22:37 |
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