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| msvb-lab | Peeps. | 12:09 |
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| temmi_moo | ell-i site controller now supports commanding dali systems | 12:25 |
| Mikaela | Hi, I ordered Jolla recently, but it hasn't arrived yet and I was wondering two things: | 12:26 |
| Mikaela | 1. How does Jolla behave with wireless networks that have multiple hotspots (with same SSID)? Android ties itself to one and uses it (until connection is fully lost) even if you are next to another hotspot unless you root and edit one file (and then have to put networks there by hand or the networks aren't remembered). | 12:26 |
| temmi_moo | if you think houm.io is cool but would like more open source, come to #ELL-i | 12:26 |
| Mikaela | 2. Is there any web interface or list of apps in the Jolla Store? I can only find Jolla shop for ordering it and Jolla Harbour which seems to be for software developers. | 12:26 |
| temmi_moo | oh hi mikaela | 12:27 |
| temmi_moo | i have a pipo you'd like | 12:27 |
| Mikaela | hi, your nick seems familiar | 12:27 |
| Mikaela | I think that I already disappeared from that channel at some point while cleaning network/channel lists | 12:28 |
| temmi_moo | from #helsinkihacklab and #weechat | 12:28 |
| Mikaela | (pipo is beanie, I believe by the way) | 12:28 |
| Mikaela | I did disappear from #helsinkihacklab, but I am at #weechat where I was recently made register #weechat-fi | 12:28 |
| Mikaela | I could actually reappear there as it still seems the closest hacklab that I could visit | 12:29 |
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| kimmoli | Mikaela: 1. we have this configuration at office, and seems it roams kinda well there (if i go by stairs) elevator seems to be no-go if i want to keep all connections active | 13:09 |
| Mikaela | :) | 13:09 |
| kimmoli | 2. no web interface for seeing apps in store, only available through phone | 13:10 |
| tbr | for once connman is good at something? unpossible! | 13:10 |
| kimmoli | tbr: :p | 13:10 |
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| Yaniel | huh, that is connman's doing? | 13:10 |
| Mikaela | ok, thanks :) | 13:10 |
| kimmoli | i have seen some self-maintained lists but it was long time ago | 13:11 |
| kimmoli | tbr: big flush there | 13:11 |
| kimmoli | tbr: it has improved, earlier i had to restart as-daemon to get it syncin in another floor | 13:12 |
| Mikaela | I have two hotspots at home, because one ethernet cable goes to my room downstairs and without having another AP there, I don't have enough signal for anything there and it also seems to help other devices there. There are also multiple hotspots at school. | 13:12 |
| kimmoli | if the network itself is properly managed/configured, it should work | 13:13 |
| tbr | kimmoli: yeah, seems we had a "sizeable flush" for "small business" ;) | 13:13 |
| kimmoli | we have some hp-stuff managing that, with annoyance: 13 hotspots and license for 12 - one random is offline | 13:14 |
| tbr | o.O | 13:14 |
| kimmoli | or that was explanation of our it | 13:15 |
| Mikaela | I believe at least my home network is and with editing that file school network worked properly. | 13:15 |
| Mikaela | Oh, that reminds me of another question, is there any app that automatically logins to wifi networks which ask for password in web browser? I had some app for android as it's annoying to type that at the school network which doesn't even have so strong password and is supposed to be open for students. | 13:15 |
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| bjorn | Does anybody know why the Jolla, when for whatever reason it thinks the SIM card has been removed, wants me to restart the phone? | 17:17 |
| bjorn | Because at least for me it's enough to "activate the SIM card" again in the settings. | 17:17 |
| bjorn | Would be much nicer if it would take me there in the first place, instead of suggesting a restart. | 17:18 |
| cryorat | airplane mode? | 17:18 |
| cryorat | on/off | 17:18 |
| bjorn | No. It seems to just lose contact to the SIM card sometimes. | 17:18 |
| cryorat | CPE error :D | 17:18 |
| bjorn | What? | 17:18 |
| cryorat | CPE is a name for the end user provided stuff | 17:19 |
| cryorat | the term is used mostly at ISPs and call CPE error if the user complaining for something that is not the ISPs fault(router/ laptop etc | 17:20 |
| bjorn | Right, it seems more like a hardware problem. | 17:21 |
| Nicd- | bjorn: I think it's a "better safe than sorry" feature | 17:21 |
| Nicd- | the only phone I know with hot swappable SIM cards is the iphone | 17:21 |
| bjorn | Well and Jolla... | 17:21 |
| Nicd- | not really hot swappable if it tells you to reboot | 17:21 |
| bjorn | But it's just what it tells you. | 17:21 |
| Nicd- | you might wanna talk to care about your SIM card holder | 17:22 |
| Nicd- | I had mine fixed in warranty | 17:22 |
| bjorn | Yeah... it's the main reason why I still need to rely on my S3 if I want to be reachable. | 17:22 |
| bjorn | Because I am unreachable until I discover that the SIM card has disconnected again. | 17:22 |
| bjorn | Erm, they say it's a 12 month warranty. | 17:24 |
| bjorn | I think I've been sitting on this problem for too long then... | 17:24 |
| cryorat | bjorn, rub steel wool on your simcard | 17:24 |
| cryorat | maybe its a bit oxidized and the contact is bad | 17:25 |
| bjorn | Well it works fine in my other phone... | 17:25 |
| bjorn | But I can try. | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | bjorn: contact care for sim card issues | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | such as that | 17:25 |
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| bjorn | Ok, I'm reading up on this care thing now. | 17:26 |
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| Stskeeps | did they contact regarding this issue specifically | 17:26 |
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| faenil | no talk from Jolla this year at FOSDEM? | 17:49 |
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| Stskeeps | i think david has one? | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/track/embedded/ | 17:50 |
| cryorat | faenil, they are busy with whipping chinese children at the tablet factory :))) | 17:50 |
| faenil | cryorat, hehe | 17:51 |
| Nicd- | cryorat: no, foxconn handles all that | 17:51 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, ah ok, cool | 17:52 |
| tiwake | and they have nets around the building to catch those trying to flee | 17:52 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, not from Jolla though | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | tiwake: so not unlike jolla offices? | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: meh, we're open source people.. you can't go too much marketing at fosdem | 17:54 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, mmm :) | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | https://together.jolla.com/question/75543/fosdem-2015-community-events/ | 17:54 |
| cryorat | Stskeeps, lot of companies does that | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 17:54 |
| tiwake | Stskeeps: I thought that was indoctrination, so they believe the outside world is even worse | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't mean we feel good about it | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: jolla tablet still using hybris? | 19:03 |
| faenil | mm documents app doesn't see the email attachment I've just downloaded :( | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: it's in my blog, i think | 19:07 |
| r0kk3rz | i just saw a note on lbt's fosdem talk | 19:07 |
| r0kk3rz | i would have thought intel platform would help the whole driver issue, but maybe not | 19:08 |
| tiwake | when was the tentative shipping time for the tablet? | 19:08 |
| faenil | tiwake, May/June at the beginning, now it's Q2, so somewhere between April and Aug | 19:09 |
| faenil | (end of Aug) | 19:09 |
| tiwake | faenil: oh ok, so they made it a wider shipping date range | 19:09 |
| locusf | good thing that lbt's talk is just before qwazix's talk :) | 19:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | hah | 19:11 |
| r0kk3rz | personally I welcome Tizen | 19:12 |
| r0kk3rz | if we can have 3 linux based OS's fighting for an interoperability based model rather than a vertical integration walled garden model | 19:13 |
| r0kk3rz | then i see that as best for everyone | 19:13 |
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| faenil | locusf, oh cool! | 19:14 |
| locusf | I only got 6 talks on my list in fosdem companion :p | 19:15 |
| faenil | hehe | 19:15 |
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| * stephg is pleased with himself, solved a config bug that's been bothering him for over a week, opens beer | 20:32 | |
| the_mgt | cheers | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | burp | 20:34 |
| attah | beer <3 | 20:34 |
| attah | what if we would be able to pledge beer for bugfixes on TJC...? | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | oh boy, you might actually get things done | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:36 |
| attah | yeah.. that's my point.. | 20:36 |
| svuorela | Stskeeps: I'll pledge you a beer for fixing 'opensource the silica components' :P | 20:37 |
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| stephg | "alcohol: the cause of and solution to all life's problems" | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | svuorela: i can promise that when/if that happens, i will have quite a few | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:41 |
| svuorela | Stskeeps: for how many days will you be drunk when/if that happens? :P | 20:43 |
| r0kk3rz | i think the real question is, how drunk do we have to get stskeeps so he accidentally uploads the whole thing to github | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | the richard stallman peak? | 20:48 |
| attah | where is that? 2x Ballmer peak? | 20:49 |
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| attah | i once heard someone had hooked up a breathalyzer to git, and now i know why... | 20:50 |
| kimmoli | you talking the finnihs way to solve problem? http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/av0y2zq_700b_v2.jpg | 20:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | im not sure how bbq leads to solution | 20:53 |
| r0kk3rz | more australian thing would be have bbq, at least 6 beers, and say "she'll be right" | 20:54 |
| kimmoli | it is always good weather for bbq | 20:54 |
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| TemeV | just keep in mind, that beer is a solution | 20:55 |
| TemeV | ...of mostly water and alchol | 20:55 |
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| TemeV | how do I disconnect my computer from network with this "modern desktop linux" (Mint 17)? | 20:58 |
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| TemeV | ifdown eth0 doesn't work | 20:58 |
| TemeV | and I can't find tool for this in KDE | 20:58 |
| r0kk3rz | unplug? | 20:59 |
| attah | screwdriver? axe? | 20:59 |
| r0kk3rz | nuke from orbit? | 20:59 |
| TemeV | I guess those would work | 20:59 |
| coderus | no idea about mint, but kde using network manager, isn't it? | 20:59 |
| TemeV | but really, why did they break ifdown | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | because lennart decided it wasnt good enough | 21:00 |
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| attah | it's systemd and illuminati.. | 21:00 |
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| TemeV | there seems to be network-manager package installed | 21:01 |
| coderus | TemeV: you using headless? no dm? | 21:02 |
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| TemeV | dm? | 21:02 |
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| kimmoli | nmcli nm enable false - or something? | 21:03 |
| coderus | you using text mode? | 21:03 |
| TemeV | no, normal desktop | 21:03 |
| coderus | why not to use Network Manager plasma widget? | 21:03 |
| TemeV | oh, it works with a widget | 21:04 |
| TemeV | I was searching for it from system settings | 21:04 |
| coderus | LOL:D>:D | 21:04 |
| TemeV | thanks coderus :) | 21:04 |
| coderus | first time in kde? | 21:04 |
| TemeV | I'm really newbie with KDE | 21:04 |
| coderus | kde is not "modern desktop linux" | 21:04 |
| juiceme | coderus, hiya :) | 21:04 |
| TemeV | well, I just meant it as a joke, since "traditional" things are not working anymore | 21:05 |
| kimmoli | juiceme: got mail? | 21:05 |
| coderus | kde is smart desktop linux | 21:05 |
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| coderus | juiceme: hiya? | 21:05 |
| juiceme | kimmoli, not yet. expecting the package soon | 21:05 |
| TemeV | network settings are not in /etc/networking/interfaces anymore etc | 21:05 |
| juiceme | coderus, how was your drive back home, tired still? | 21:05 |
| kimmoli | juiceme: someone got it already on friday, shipped on thu | 21:06 |
| coderus | juiceme: yeah, a bit | 21:06 |
| coderus | TemeV: its just using network manager :) | 21:06 |
| juiceme | kimmoli well it might be in the mail, the mailroom makes deliveries to offices only every second day or someting. related to some savings I guess :) | 21:06 |
| juiceme | coderus good to hear you got back safely anyway :) | 21:07 |
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| coderus | juiceme: thanks :) | 21:08 |
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| RavenholmDX | Any word on more batteries being made available? | 23:11 |
| coderus | new batteries costs 250 euros. and you will get free Jolla without battery. | 23:13 |
| RavenholmDX | lol | 23:14 |
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| RavenholmDX | coderus, don't tempt me | 23:14 |
| RavenholmDX | I actually considered it for a minute | 23:15 |
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| kaol | The Other Battery. | 23:19 |
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| coderus | RavenholmDX: i'm just joking :D | 23:23 |
| RavenholmDX | I know, but I'm silly enough to do it :P | 23:24 |
| Nightmare__ | at least you get a lime and pink toh for free too :D | 23:26 |
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| RavenholmDX | Haha, Nightmare__ | 23:26 |
| RavenholmDX | Nah, I wish | 23:26 |
| RavenholmDX | going to the US in two weeks, so I'm broke :p | 23:27 |
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| Niju | Hi, really tempted to in ahead and order the jolla. Just wondering if people thinking should wait in case there is a new model or just in ahead and join the fun. :P | 23:29 |
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| Nightmare__ | imho they don't have time for the tablet and new phone, but who knows | 23:34 |
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| Niju | I was sort of hoping that they would focus on the os, and hence the phone anyway. | 23:37 |
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| RavenholmDX | Niju, wait until March | 23:43 |
| RavenholmDX | they may announce a phone at MWC | 23:43 |
| RavenholmDX | if not, it'll be at Slush I reckon | 23:43 |
| Niju | The only thing with that is that a newer model will probably cost more and i'll be short changed the next while | 23:44 |
| Niju | I'm not a spec hound so I'm not particularly bothered with the current models specs | 23:45 |
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| Niju | Just wanna know if battery life is ok | 23:45 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: couple of days if not playing android games | 23:55 |
| coderus | crap tab again :D | 23:56 |
| coderus | Niju: ^ :) | 23:56 |
| Niju | Huh? | 23:56 |
| coderus | Niju: battery life | 23:56 |
| Niju | I got disconnected so missed what you said | 23:57 |
| coderus | couple of days if not playing android games | 23:57 |
| Niju | Ah right I got you now lol | 23:57 |
| Niju | I don't play android games | 23:57 |
| coderus | cool then :) | 23:57 |
| Niju | Good to know :) | 23:58 |
| Niju | Are you the guy doing the whatsapp client? | 23:58 |
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