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| Stskeepz | nothing like a 4:30am wakeup by your child | 08:05 |
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| pp__ | hmn, technically might work on the jolla, right? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.srlabs.snoopsnitch&hl=en | 08:05 |
| pp__ | (well, probably more the gpl3 source with some hacks :-) ) | 08:06 |
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| * Stskeepz looks | 08:07 | |
| pp_ | Note: Unfortunately, custom Android ROMs like CyanogenMod are not supported, as they lack the drivers necessary to collect radio data. | 08:07 |
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| Stskeepz | i guess, there's some diag interface indeed | 08:07 |
| Stskeepz | i wouldn't mind such a tool at times | 08:08 |
| pp_ | might take a look at some point | 08:10 |
| Stskeepz | it's a bit of a shame those kind of protocols for diagnosis are 'closed source'.. could really do a lot of innovation with some more info to what goes on, on network | 08:10 |
| Stskeepz | like qxdm and such | 08:11 |
| tbr | very powerful tool | 08:12 |
| tbr | I was also hoping to see that protocol reversed more | 08:12 |
| tbr | but so far only network manager has a select few things that they needed to get modems running | 08:13 |
| Stskeepz | hrm, maybe today is the day i try to get a saner installation on my r-pi.. | 08:21 |
| Stskeepz | i should really have gotten a proper armv7 board instead of this thing | 08:21 |
| tbr | rpi and sane is an oxymoron | 08:22 |
| tbr | or one of those MIPS things | 08:22 |
| tbr | although SGX GPU :( | 08:22 |
| Stskeepz | i supposedly was supposed to get a ci20 but no sight of it | 08:23 |
| Stskeepz | i kinda want a http://www.ingenic.cn/en/?newton/id/1.html | 08:23 |
| tbr | interesting, they shipped long ago | 08:23 |
| tbr | by UPS | 08:23 |
| Stskeepz | curious | 08:23 |
| Stskeepz | probably stolen in the post like 2-3 of my university diplomas.. | 08:23 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 08:23 |
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| Stskeepz | (see specs of the above page) | 08:24 |
| Stskeepz | powerful little board | 08:24 |
| tbr | that newton looks nice | 08:25 |
| tbr | sounds like something I'd play with | 08:27 |
| Stskeepz | yeah.. haven't seen it in free purchase yet though | 08:27 |
| Stskeepz | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-SmartQ-Z1-Smart-Watch-Mobile-JZ4775-1-54-TFT-LCD-Capacitive-240-240-WIFI-Bluetooth/805904_1574181390.html looks like it's using it | 08:27 |
| Stskeepz | it's really morbid but after imagination bought MIPS, innovation seem to have grown in that area | 08:30 |
| tbr | looks actually nice. if it would be oled, I'd probably consider buying it for fun and hacking | 08:31 |
| tbr | you could do interesting LPM things | 08:32 |
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| Stskeepz | nod | 08:32 |
| tbr | wonder how much battery time it gets etc | 08:34 |
| Stskeepz | it has a big-little like thing | 08:35 |
| Stskeepz | 300mhz mips32 and 1.2ghz mips32 | 08:35 |
| tbr | yes, noticed that in the specs of the newton | 08:35 |
| Stskeepz | which is kinda neat | 08:35 |
| tbr | is there a sensible kernel scheduler for that yet? | 08:35 |
| coderus | please suggest me sailfish/android application working on jolla to share my current location? not glimpse. | 08:36 |
| tbr | on arm they broke the design in hardware so you could only do hard switching | 08:36 |
| tbr | but I think they have that figured out in the more recent designs | 08:36 |
| tbr | G+ can do location sharing | 08:37 |
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| Stskeepz | chances are you'd just cpu0/cpu1 on from userspace, i guess | 08:37 |
| Stskeepz | which isn't as cool | 08:37 |
| tbr | I'd probably script something and use APRS, but that's me and being a radio amateur. | 08:37 |
| coderus | tbr: but location sharing to my G+ contacts/groups only, i suppose? Same as facebook/bbm/etc. | 08:38 |
| Stskeepz | live NMEA stream | 08:38 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 08:38 |
| tbr | yeah, it would be nice if there would be some kernel side logic too, so you could pin cpu intense processes | 08:38 |
| tbr | coderus: you can configure that | 08:38 |
| tbr | coderus: no idea if you can do detailed location to full public | 08:38 |
| coderus | all i need is simple app generating geo: link or google maps link with my location :D | 08:39 |
| Stskeepz | doesn't wechat or the likes have that | 08:41 |
| Stskeepz | at least in china it has features like that | 08:41 |
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| tbr | https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2998354?hl=en | 08:43 |
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| Nc_ | coderus, you cannot simply visit where-am-i.net ? | 08:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | morn | 10:58 |
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| stephg | hey hey r0kk3rz | 11:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | any snow down your way stephg? | 11:03 |
| stephg | nope, bit chilly (not by the standards of most in here tho') | 11:06 |
| stephg | drove back from the midlands before it all hit | 11:07 |
| stephg | whataboutyou r0kk3rz? | 11:07 |
| r0kk3rz | a small bit fell last night, but i dont think it settled | 11:07 |
| r0kk3rz | went out to roseberry topping, which was covered in snow yesterday | 11:08 |
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| stephg | v. pretty I imagine | 11:08 |
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| temmi_moo | where would that be? | 11:08 |
| temmi_moo | midlands sounds somewhat scottish to me | 11:09 |
| stephg | hehe the midlands is, er, in the middle (of england) | 11:09 |
| stephg | temmi_moo: think 'the shire' from LoTR | 11:09 |
| stephg | green, hilly, everyone has hairy toes etc. | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah im up in the "north", ie the middle of britain | 11:09 |
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| stephg | oops gotta drop offline for 15 or so to reboot/recable something, bbl | 11:12 |
| temmi_moo | ah that | 11:13 |
| temmi_moo | i'll want to visit those parts someday | 11:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | pfft if you want to see LoTR then go to NZ | 11:16 |
| r0kk3rz | bit further though | 11:16 |
| temmi_moo | no, i want to visit most of britains different parts | 11:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | worth doing | 11:17 |
| r0kk3rz | britain is rather densely populated | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | little towns and such all over | 11:18 |
| Sidde | r0kk3rz: only lotr from the movies. I doubt Tolkien had NZ in mind when he wrote the books | 11:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | this is true | 11:18 |
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| temmi_moo | i read the books (the hobbit, the ring saga and silmarillion) long before any rumours of anybody getting permission to even think about shooting | 11:25 |
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| temmi_moo | i've also liked herriott's stories so small towns and lamby meadows is what i'm after | 11:25 |
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| Sidde | temmi_moo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%281978_film%29 | 11:26 |
| Sidde | temmi_moo: before that? | 11:26 |
| mord_ | hullo, what provides apkd-launcher? it seems to have gone missing, no idea why | 11:27 |
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| temmi_moo | sorry, not before that | 11:27 |
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| Sidde | temmi_moo: i had that as a child acctually. And i read the books as a child too. Many many times... | 11:27 |
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| Sidde | think i read the books the first time at age 8 | 11:28 |
| Sidde | i both learned reading swedish and later english from Tolkien | 11:28 |
| temmi_moo | i was later blooming in that sense, starting with hobbit at age of ten or eleven or so | 11:28 |
| Sidde | reading more advanced swedish that is. Learning the basics is things you start with earlier... | 11:29 |
| Sidde | temmi_moo: i got the books as a birthday gift from my grandfather when i turned 8. So i got lucky to start early | 11:30 |
| temmi_moo | ah | 11:30 |
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| mord | "rpm -qf $( which apkd-launcher )", anyone? | 11:34 |
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| teve | mord: apkd | 11:35 |
| mord | teve: thanks, not installed for whatever reason (broken deps perhaps?) | 11:35 |
| mord | cool, that fixed it. thanks again! | 11:36 |
| Sidde | now time to start making a list of all the stuff i'm going to buy to the boat so i can get the stuff before the spring arrives | 11:36 |
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| Sidde | I do wonder how the display on the jolla tablet will be on the sun light. Would be a nice device for displaying speed/direction on if it works well outside | 11:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | sidde you can usually buy anti-glare screen protectors | 11:40 |
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| Stskeepz | http://images.formeego.org/jolla/sources/sailfish-1.1.1.27-oss.tar.bz2 - sailfishos u10 OSS source code dump | 12:18 |
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| locusf | any word on kernel arriving to github? | 12:20 |
| Stskeepz | would have to ask konsta | 12:21 |
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| Stskeepz | can't recall his twitter handle at | 12:21 |
| Stskeepz | m | 12:22 |
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| locusf | ok another topic, is jolla arm eabi hf? | 12:22 |
| locusf | was thinking on ubuntu touch on Jolla :) | 12:22 |
| Stskeepz | yes it is | 12:23 |
| Stskeepz | from ubuntu touch pov it shouldn't care, libhybris converts softfp (android) to hf | 12:23 |
| locusf | oh cool | 12:23 |
| M4rtinK | Android is still softfp ? | 12:24 |
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| gogeta | locusf, for some reason i think every bit works flowless on jb | 12:45 |
| gogeta | i talk about ubuntu touch on jolla phone | 12:45 |
| locusf | gogeta: yeah lets hope so | 12:45 |
| gogeta | a fully functional libhybirs support ... :-D | 12:46 |
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| gogeta | *libhybris | 12:46 |
| gogeta | btw sailfish on dory as landed | 12:46 |
| stephg | ahh that's better | 12:46 |
| locusf | gogeta: not nemo? :) | 12:47 |
| gogeta | ui doesn't works | 12:47 |
| locusf | oh :/ | 12:47 |
| gogeta | i've used sailfish hadk | 12:47 |
| locusf | ok | 12:47 |
| gogeta | newer msm kernels from google a bit systemd allergic | 12:47 |
| gogeta | i need to leave this on | 12:48 |
| gogeta | CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER | 12:48 |
| gogeta | otherwise | 12:48 |
| gogeta | not compile at all | 12:48 |
| gogeta | stephg, this is better http://bit.ly/16XG3lc | 12:49 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeepz: how straight forward would swapping out libhybris OSs be? eg. Ubuntu Touch, FirefoxOS, SailfishOS | 12:50 |
| stephg | haha excellent | 12:51 |
| stephg | someone needs to distribute a crate of that around the jolla stand at fosdem or something | 12:51 |
| gogeta | stephg, if you need some bottles for fosdem ... just ask brewmaster for some | 12:52 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: last time I checked FxOS didn't use hybris, it built directly on top of surface flinger et al | 12:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh, i was under the impression that it was | 12:53 |
| locusf | r0kk3rz: at least in nemo case it was just preparing a image with jolla proprietaries and using that as rootfa | 12:54 |
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| locusf | *rootfs | 12:54 |
| gogeta | fresh Install: /home/gogeta/mer/android/droid/out/target/product/dory/hybris-boot.img | 12:55 |
| gogeta | let try | 12:55 |
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| locusf | using as rootfs == sailfish-snapshot restore nemo | 12:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i've only really got a superficial understanding of how libhybris works, was more a question of if a device is already using libhybris for hardware adaptation then swapping out ubuntu for sailfish should be fairly straight forward and all the drivers should work? | 12:58 |
| locusf | thats the theory :) | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | ah, cool | 13:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | http://forum.whatmobile.net/forum/tech-zone/mobile-operating-systems/34860-boot-to-gecko-firefox-os?p=507798#post507798 << this post seems to suggest that fxOS is using hybris | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | but, who knows how accurate that is | 13:00 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: if that's all you got then no. I was involved in FxOS up until 1.1 and there was not the slightest trace of libhybris, plenty of hubris though. | 13:02 |
| Stskeepz | yeah they're practically heavily mangled android without dalvik | 13:02 |
| tbr | exactly | 13:03 |
| Stskeepz | with gecko on to | 13:03 |
| Stskeepz | p | 13:03 |
| tbr | they had gecko already working on NDK, so it wasn't a big deal | 13:03 |
| gogeta | Stskeepz, many hours to spend ? | 13:03 |
| Stskeepz | huh? | 13:03 |
| gogeta | more money | 13:04 |
| Stskeepz | yes please | 13:04 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 13:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | interesting, so you could almost consider fxos a fork of AOSP? | 13:07 |
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| Stskeepz | tbr: http://m.ad.nl/ad/m/nl/1014/Bizar/article/detail/3818824/2014/12/27/Met-een-luxe-tanktaxi-veilig-door-Sint-Petersburg.dhtml | 13:31 |
| M4rtinK | brdm, eh ? | 13:33 |
| Stskeepz | r0kk3rz: it is | 13:33 |
| M4rtinK | should be amphibious, which could be handy :) | 13:35 |
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| tbr | Stskeepz: the pink one? yeah, that's funny | 13:41 |
| tbr | mine still seats more people than a BRDM, but also isn't an armored vehicle | 13:42 |
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| locusf | hmm this is turning into a really unholy concoction this ubuntu-touch | 14:27 |
| Stskeepz | mm? | 14:29 |
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| locusf | extracted a minimal sbj system first, then ubuntu touch rootfs | 14:30 |
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| Chroniz | tbr & coderus: you made my christmas, thanks! Got Jolla still working a few days ago :) | 14:33 |
| coderus | me? okay :) | 14:37 |
| coderus | and about BRDM. there are many heavy units owned by random peoples in russia. i can give you many links if you want :D | 14:37 |
| Chroniz | yep, thanks to the logs ;) | 14:38 |
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| M4rtinK | I know about at least one large outdoor paintball arena (in a decommissioned SAM site) that also has one | 14:41 |
| M4rtinK | and they use it in some of the larger paintball battles :) | 14:42 |
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| coderus | i'm talking about working ones, driving in cities :) | 14:47 |
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| tbr | coderus: thanks, but I already own a Volvo C304 (TgB 1314A) ;) | 14:51 |
| temmi_moo | a nice volvo | 14:52 |
| stephg | "they're boxy, but they're good" | 14:52 |
| temmi_moo | stephg: in general to volvo, or to tgb11/13? | 14:52 |
| stephg | it's a film quote :D | 14:53 |
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| temmi_moo | url! | 14:54 |
| stephg | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJZEK4JP0k | 14:54 |
| ShadowJK | weird, trying to update email causes around 700M ram use, and 1.25Mbyte/s *outgoing* traffic from my jolla | 14:54 |
| ShadowJK | for minutes | 14:54 |
| stephg | big inboxes? not sync'd for a long time ShadowJK | 14:54 |
| stephg | ? | 14:55 |
| ShadowJK | well, inbox isn't that big, although other folders might be | 14:55 |
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| ShadowJK | does it even when i go to empty folders | 15:01 |
| temmi_moo | stephg: :D tgb13 is a bit different but that holds: boxy but good | 15:03 |
| ShadowJK | folder with 2 emails, delete one email: kaboom, extreme memory use and massive data transfer | 15:06 |
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| sledges | stephg: http://www.turbobricks.com | 15:14 |
| sledges | a good friend/neighbour is madly into it | 15:15 |
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| temmi_moo | sadly, while their base engine is good, they need alternative ecu | 15:15 |
| temmi_moo | whereas with suitable generation saabs you already have a flexible ecu | 15:16 |
| tbr | psh, ecu... mechanical ignition! | 15:17 |
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| mcfrisk | jolla browser in u10 is failing to render my blog feed page,90 | 15:19 |
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| temmi_moo | tbr :) it has its good and bad sides | 15:19 |
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| mcfrisk | 90 % of page just stays white: http://mcfrisk.kapsi.fi/freeski_planet | 15:20 |
| temmi_moo | you cannot dive very deep with mechanical ignition whereas the electronics are possible to make enough waterproof | 15:20 |
| Stskeepz | mcfrisk: file issue at the github for it? | 15:20 |
| temmi_moo | anyhoo all turbobricks of any reasonable performance have an ecu | 15:20 |
| CoderCandy | funny | 15:21 |
| mcfrisk | Stskeepz: ok, will do that eventually then. | 15:21 |
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| CoderCandy | I was out in the snow today, at -10 degrees | 15:21 |
| CoderCandy | my Jolla was the only phone that was alive | 15:22 |
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| CoderCandy | all others had iPhones which all shut down due to the cold... | 15:22 |
| SQUelcher | :> | 15:23 |
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| temmi_moo | california dreaming | 15:37 |
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| DrainBamaged1 | California Soul | 15:47 |
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| Nc_ | anyone aware of a way to get android-apps to use an android-browser instead of the native jolla one? | 16:02 |
| Nc_ | default setup is making signing in via websites a PITA | 16:02 |
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| locusf | ok ubuntu touch rootfs extracting | 16:06 |
| jcbjoe | every jolla is unlocked regardless correct ? | 16:07 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | wrong | 16:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | every jolla is locked | 16:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | but you can unlock it | 16:24 |
| Stskeepz | in different degrees | 16:25 |
| Stskeepz | but is not like sim locked | 16:25 |
| Morpog_PC__ | ah well, no sim lock | 16:25 |
| Waitee | the bootloader is locked | 16:25 |
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| Stskeepz | but can be unlocked | 16:28 |
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| Waitee | can i flash android to jolla? :--D | 16:29 |
| Stskeepz | strictly speaking you could potentially get something going with sufficient amount of time and upstream codeaurora | 16:34 |
| Stskeepz | but it'd very likely break in all sorts of funny ways | 16:34 |
| RaYmAn | wasn't the ODM device running android? ;) | 16:34 |
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| Stskeepz | probably | 16:39 |
| Stskeepz | we changed a few things though | 16:40 |
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| locusf | I wonder if jolla kernel supports systemd 217 | 17:04 |
| locusf | thats what my ubt image has | 17:05 |
| Aard | locusf: try and tell me the results :p | 17:05 |
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| locusf | Aard: well I've been trying to get ubuntu to boot with it, just lacking journal files | 17:06 |
| jjanvier | hey guys, is there a way to install snapchat without installing google play services ? | 17:07 |
| tango_ | let's talk epub readers on the jolla | 17:17 |
| tango_ | (or android, for the matter, but native would be preferred) | 17:18 |
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| locusf | Aard: seems to work ok, don't still know why ubuntu reboots though :/ | 17:21 |
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| locusf | Aard: do you want to see the journal? | 17:33 |
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| Aard | locusf: might be interesting. did you check if sailfishos comes up with new systemd? | 17:33 |
| locusf | Aard: nope | 17:34 |
| Aard | that'd be even more interesting ;) | 17:34 |
| locusf | Aard: http://pastebin.com/xCHzjnbg heres journalctl -ax | 17:35 |
| locusf | droid-hal-init fails | 17:36 |
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| dunp | http://www.navit-project.org/ | 17:47 |
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| locusf | hmm kernel bug now on msm driver | 17:51 |
| locusf | I mean adreno driver | 17:52 |
| locusf | http://pastebin.com/j9n0MD7z | 17:53 |
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| RaYmAn | locusf: it seems to be missing some firmware? | 17:57 |
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| locusf | RaYmAn: how so? | 17:57 |
| RaYmAn | Dec 28 17:43:41 ubuntu-phablet kernel: kgsl kgsl-3d0: |_load_firmware| request_firmware(a300_pm4.fw) failed: -2 | 17:57 |
| RaYmAn | Dec 28 17:43:41 ubuntu-phablet kernel: kgsl kgsl-3d0: |adreno_start| Reading pm4 microcode failed a300_pm4.fw | 17:58 |
| locusf | ah yes | 17:58 |
| locusf | this is due to me removing droid-hal-init probably | 17:58 |
| locusf | well it appears that there are no firmware related things in /init.qcom.* | 17:59 |
| RaYmAn | usually firmware is loaded through some helper/ueventd/udev, so maybe you're missing some rule to tell it where to load the firmware from | 18:01 |
| locusf | yeah that file is in /system/etc/firmware | 18:02 |
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| Tegu | btw, is there a way to record screen? found an year-old thread on tjc but it didn't have a solution | 18:04 |
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| japa-fi | where can I find mitakuuluu? (or what is the native whatsapp client named) | 18:16 |
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| Nicd- | don't use it, it will get you banned | 18:17 |
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| japa-fi | Oh.. | 18:18 |
| japa-fi | Appartently I can still use my N900 & yappari, even though I don't have my sim in the N900. At least looks like it :) | 18:19 |
| locusf | hmm seems that 3 operating systems on Jolla is too much to handle :p | 18:19 |
| Nicd- | you can also get android whatsapp, the official | 18:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | locusf: poor little jollaphone | 18:23 |
| locusf | can't even factory restore | 18:24 |
| locusf | ERROR: cannot delete '/sailfish-snapshot/nemo-@' - No space left on device | 18:24 |
| Stskeepz | that doesn't sound healthy | 18:25 |
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| locusf | [ 53.938959] BTRFS error (device mmcblk0p28) in btrfs_ioctl_snap_destroy:2038: error 28 | 18:27 |
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| japa-fi | btw. anyone tried the redphone for android, does it work ok with jolla | 18:27 |
| Stskeepz | locusf: smells like you might want to restore your p28.. | 18:28 |
| locusf | I can't even remove files due to no space :D | 18:29 |
| locusf | Stskeepz: yup | 18:29 |
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| locusf | well that was fun while it lasted | 18:30 |
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| locusf | 21.11 just over a month lol | 18:32 |
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| locusf | ah can rebalance | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: consider to use microsd? | 18:35 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: I do have one, what to do with it? | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, root=mmcblk1p1 rootwait ish | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | if you're experimenting a lot | 18:36 |
| TemeV | locusf: i think someone was succesfull on deleting files after first writing some big file to zero | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | tbr: care to share makefile for bigOS ? | 18:38 |
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| locusf | TemeV: I tried | 18:40 |
| locusf | true >| | 18:40 |
| locusf | and then a file | 18:40 |
| locusf | but no success | 18:40 |
| tbr | kimmoli: 4 cans of sauerkraut, 1 pack of karjalanpaisti, various sausages - fried, 10-15 prunes, 2 glasses of red wine, a can of sliced/diced mushrooms. season to taste. simmer for 2-3h, put outside over night, rinse, repeat 2-3 times, consume. | 18:40 |
| kimmoli | tbr: thanks. need testdrive that | 18:41 |
| TemeV | locusf: then you really have a problem :) | 18:41 |
| tbr | kimmoli: also a pack of bacon sliced up and fried, you could also use bacon cubes directly and fry and add them | 18:42 |
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| tbr | kimmoli: the freeze/simmer cycle improves taste a lot, also adding at least one glass of red wine boosts taste | 18:43 |
| locusf | it could start a scrub though | 18:43 |
| kimmoli | tbr: that seems to be more that one serving ... | 18:44 |
| tbr | kimmoli: basically the meat content usually is christmas leftovers, I also threw in the remainder of our christmas ham | 18:45 |
| tbr | kimmoli: you can downscale this to one or two cans of sauerkraut | 18:45 |
| kimmoli | yeah, or use fresh cabbage | 18:45 |
| tbr | kimmoli: I just recounted what I did for this particular batch | 18:45 |
| tbr | you can use a mix of fresh and pickled cabbage, yes | 18:46 |
| tbr | I didn't bother | 18:46 |
| kimmoli | i'll adapt... | 18:47 |
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| kimmoli | ham leftovers are almost consumed | 18:47 |
| cvp_ | \o/ :) | 18:47 |
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| tbr | kimmoli: it fulfills also the use that its easy and can be warmed many times (and improves through it). So it's a welcome thing after christmas to not have to cook | 18:48 |
| tbr | that's why bigos is a popular new years eve dish essentially | 18:49 |
| kimmoli | i'm not good in freezing and warming up food ... | 18:49 |
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| kimmoli | as typically there is nothing left to freeze .) | 18:50 |
| locusf | btrfs check --repair one last shot | 18:51 |
| kimmoli | tbr: btw, are you able to check mer-obs is it healthy? | 18:52 |
| tbr | kimmoli: I don't have shell accounts there | 18:52 |
| kimmoli | ah ok then | 18:53 |
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| cvp_ | is this usefull to port hyperion to sailfish? https://github.com/Gamadril/hyperion-remote | 19:11 |
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| kimmoli | most helpful (for me) would be to have hyperion server setup :) | 19:15 |
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| cvp_ | kimmoli, maybe you come up with the taste :) | 19:21 |
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| temmi_moo | tbr cool recipe but why to rinse the food? | 19:26 |
| r0kk3rz | cvp_ its better than nothing I suppose | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | but nothing really reusable | 19:27 |
| temmi_moo | and i agree, many foods have better taste the next day and some really benefit from freezing over | 19:27 |
| temmi_moo | proper fermented cabbage is among those | 19:27 |
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| tbr | temmi_moo: no, it's a saying "rinse, repeat" | 19:27 |
| temmi_moo | :) | 19:28 |
| tbr | temmi_moo: in this case the pot needs to go through 3-4 freeze and simmer cycles | 19:28 |
| r0kk3rz | im not used to this whole 'put food outside' thing | 19:28 |
| r0kk3rz | i know its fine, but you dont do such things in australia | 19:28 |
| temmi_moo | r0kk3rz: it works better when outside is more or less the same thing as freezer is | 19:28 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i know | 19:28 |
| temmi_moo | such as now in .fi | 19:29 |
| r0kk3rz | why bother with freezer when outsize is a freezer | 19:29 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: in australia outside is trying to kill you :) | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | just open the door and grab something to eat -works too? | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | cvp_: i might be more interested to port hyperion on jolla/letoh | 19:31 |
| temmi_moo | tbr: i prefer pig parts to karjalanpaisti | 19:31 |
| Waitee | kalakukko best | 19:32 |
| kimmoli | then the remote-app would make sense, or something to sync multiple letohs | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | too many things called hyperion | 19:32 |
| kimmoli | karjalanpaisti -meat bits are multi-use | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | way too hard to googles | 19:33 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/wiki | 19:33 |
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| cvp_ | r0kk3rz, ok :( | 19:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: hyperion on jolla/letoh sounds awesome | 19:34 |
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| cvp_ | kimmoli, yeah true, this will be nice :) but, without a white background is it useless | 19:34 |
| cvp_ | use letoh adresable leds? | 19:36 |
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| kimmoli | kinda yes, but nothing like WS2801 e.g. | 19:38 |
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| Obi-Lan | what browser do you use in jolla? | 20:37 |
| Obi-Lan | stock sucks even with the latest | 20:37 |
| Nc_ | Firefox | 20:37 |
| lucky_luke | the default | 20:38 |
| Nicd- | android opera | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | you can try webcat if you like | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | but thats the only native game in town | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla-browser and webcat | 20:40 |
| lucky_luke | default its ok | 20:40 |
| ShadowJK | android firefox stopped working for me | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla-browser is a lot better than it used to be | 20:41 |
| r0kk3rz | and ive gotten used to its peculiarities | 20:41 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | anyone used WebPirate? | 20:42 |
| Obi-Lan | how about this: dolphin.com | 20:43 |
| Obi-Lan | theres even .apk download | 20:43 |
| Nicd- | try it :P | 20:43 |
| lucky_luke | apk on apndroid store too | 20:43 |
| Obi-Lan | yes, probably have to :P | 20:43 |
| Obi-Lan | oh cool it has lastpass addon | 20:45 |
| cvp_ | HarhaanJohtaja, sometimes, ifme is boring. | 20:46 |
| cvp_ | i use stadard browser, its good enouth | 20:46 |
| lucky_luke | but we need a warehouse update | 20:49 |
| lucky_luke | with the last os update crash all the time | 20:49 |
| cvp_ | if you get a message that warehouse doent work or so, just wait, there workin in the background | 20:50 |
| lucky_luke | they stop working and then after 2 mins close | 20:51 |
| cvp_ | oh ok... | 20:51 |
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| lucky_luke | bb messenger works ? | 21:38 |
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| Nc_ | Any ideas on how to get photos and screenshots to show up in the Gallery faster? Noticing it takes between a few 10s of minutes, to several hours :( | 21:50 |
| tbr | there's probably a way to kick tracker | 21:52 |
| kimmoli | at least sailfish-utilities has clear-tracker-database option, work for that "minutes/hours" | 21:54 |
| Nc_ | sailfish-utilities ? | 21:56 |
| teve | https://together.jolla.com/question/70567/bug-all-my-music-disappeared-how-to-get-it-back/ | 21:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i havent had that much luck with the sailfish-utilities option | 21:56 |
| r0kk3rz | just tracker-control -se | 21:56 |
| r0kk3rz | but it depends on how much stuff you've got on your phone i guess | 21:57 |
| kimmoli | sailfish utils uses -krs | 21:59 |
| r0kk3rz | -e drops the database | 22:01 |
| Nicd- | hmm | 22:02 |
| Nicd- | just plugged in a microsd that doesn't work on my jolla to my laptop | 22:02 |
| Nicd- | it opens fine but some folders are inaccessible | 22:02 |
| Nicd- | so I'm guessing the filesystem crapped out somehow | 22:02 |
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| Nicd- | but good to know that the card is alive at least | 22:03 |
| Nc_ | 'k... | 22:04 |
| Nicd- | didn't work on my ubuntu machine or the phone but OS X reads it | 22:05 |
| Nicd- | (it's fat32) | 22:05 |
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| Aard | maybe osx does some automatic fsck on insertion because of all the idiots using it? :) | 22:08 |
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| Nc_ | people commenting in the app-store about devs not responding to comments :( | 22:08 |
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| Nicd- | Aard: or maybe it just has the most robust implementation of them all :P | 22:15 |
| Aard | Nicd-: yeah, because apple is so well known for good implementations :p | 22:18 |
| fennekki | Apple made CUPS | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards -- and all sd cards works... | 22:19 |
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| fennekki | hey, wait | 22:19 |
| fennekki | does Jolla support SDXC? | 22:20 |
| Aard | fennekki: trying to prove my point? :p | 22:20 |
| fennekki | Aard: in a sense! It works quite well, though. | 22:20 |
| Aard | fennekki: for sdxc, no, because we don't support exfat. if you format a large card with something else it should work, though | 22:20 |
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| fennekki | ah, right | 22:21 |
| Aard | for cups, it either works quite well, or it's a big mess to get it running. I only use postscript printers, that takes most of the pain away | 22:21 |
| fennekki | so it just uses SDHC support, internally? | 22:21 |
| fennekki | I forgot exFAT is a part of the standard | 22:22 |
| Aard | well, we don't announce it (and don't do regular tests with big cards), but I know that several people have it working | 22:22 |
| fennekki | by that point I'd just put an actual modern filesystem on it anyway | 22:22 |
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| fennekki | no, I mean that the larger sizes are supported technically in the driver, presumably | 22:23 |
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| Aard | the cups guys fucked something up related to dithering a few years back. I have a pcl laser printer from I think 1992, excellent print results with the old lpd and very, very early cups, but nowadays the only somewhat acceptable printing on that is black and white text | 22:25 |
| fennekki | hum | 22:26 |
| fennekki | odd | 22:27 |
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| krnlyng|mobile | is there a way to (temporarily) disable the oom killer? | 23:32 |
| krnlyng|mobile | i'd like to do some very memory heavy stuff on the terminal but my application gets killed after a while (only since update 10) | 23:33 |
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| M4rtinK | krnlyng_: check https://together.jolla.com/question/72016/browser-and-oom-handling-with-update-10/?comment=73891#comment-73891 | 23:35 |
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| krnlyng|mobile | M4rtinK: thanks | 23:38 |
| salyavin | Yea oom killer is horrible on u10. tweeked a bunch of stuff and it's back like before u10. n900 was really good at it out of the box. | 23:40 |
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| salyavin | setting discussions also here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94358&page=6 | 23:41 |
| salyavin | on oom killer | 23:42 |
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