| dist | tigeli: looking at that screen all the time | 00:00 |
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| dist | "Checking..." | 00:00 |
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| tigeli | dist: does the store-app work for you? | 00:02 |
| dist | Not really. No apps, no categories | 00:03 |
| dist | oh | 00:08 |
| dist | Was there some "do not use weird chars in your password"? | 00:08 |
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| tigeli | dist: there should not be such problem.. | 00:09 |
| dist | Well. | 00:10 |
| dist | There is now! \o/ | 00:10 |
| tigeli | :D | 00:10 |
| dist | (changed password to something simple and boom, works) | 00:10 |
| tigeli | strange | 00:10 |
| dist | And I could add an account, it just didn't work | 00:10 |
| tigeli | dist: ok.. there could a problem on 1.0.0.5 | 00:10 |
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| dist | Yeah, this is a bit old now.. | 00:11 |
| dist | "Checking.." | 00:11 |
| dist | SOOON | 00:11 |
| tigeli | dist: check private query :) | 00:11 |
| dist | And.. "Up to date" | 00:12 |
| dist | That says "Soon" right? | 00:12 |
| dist | Ah and the store says there's a problem | 00:15 |
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| dist | tigeli: Update available! Muchos gracias! | 00:24 |
| dist | And installing.. Almost done! | 00:31 |
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| dist | Watch looked fun. I hope the battery lasts multiple days.. | 00:35 |
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| keithzg | I'd be good with a watch, tablet, or a phone that support 3G over AWS. Either of those three and I can imagine using it daily! | 00:50 |
| keithzg | Watch doesn't make sense for "something BIG is about to begin", though, unless they're being obnoxiously clever and "BIG" is some sort of acronym, heh. | 00:51 |
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| lpotter | maybe its not a smartwatch, but a smart wall clock | 01:29 |
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| keithzg | hahahaha that'd be utterly hilarious | 01:43 |
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| Teemu | big wall clock hanging from necklace? | 06:12 |
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| Teemu | early rap stars trying to see how dumb and weird you can look before anybody starts to call your cards if you've finally lost it | 06:13 |
| Teemu | until someone figured out there's no such thing | 06:13 |
| Teemu | you just gotta self-regulate as the audience will just cheer no matter what you do, where you go, how much you push | 06:13 |
| Teemu | also: haters gonna hate | 06:14 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, my device lock seems to be partly broken | 07:06 |
| Nicd- | it no longer locks the shortcut pulldown menu on the top of the lock screen, is this a known bug? | 07:06 |
| ln- | it's not a bug | 07:07 |
| Nicd- | the silence option was always available but now I can also open the apps | 07:07 |
| Nicd- | I don't think that's a good thing | 07:07 |
| ln- | doesn't it ask for the code when you select an app? | 07:07 |
| Nicd- | yes but the app still opens | 07:07 |
| Nicd- | it just opens in the background until I unlock the device | 07:08 |
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| Nicd- | so for example I can turn on the flashlight with the device locked but I can't turn it off without unlocking | 07:09 |
| Nicd- | I think the idea is good (less swiping to start an app when device is locked) but I think the app should *only* start when the lock code is input correctly | 07:11 |
| Nicd- | now it's started instantly, just invisible in the background | 07:11 |
| ln- | this has been discussed in tjc, i think. | 07:13 |
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| Warnaud | morning | 07:36 |
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| Kiranos_ | I hope its not a tablet for todays announcement | 08:22 |
| Warnaud | :) | 08:23 |
| pp_ | nokia booklet 4g! | 08:23 |
| Kiranos_ | yea they will be hopelessly lost after apple in the tablet section | 08:23 |
| Warnaud | indeed | 08:23 |
| Warnaud | even running Microsoft OS on it (cynism inside™®©) | 08:24 |
| Kiranos_ | :) | 08:24 |
| Nicd- | a windows tablet would really be a let down. there's no way for them to differentiate really | 08:24 |
| meklu | I doubt they'll touch MS software with a ten foot pole now :P | 08:24 |
| Nicd- | or android tablet for that matter | 08:24 |
| meklu | we'll see what manifests | 08:25 |
| Kiranos_ | I really like apples frontend on the tablet, I have nothing to complain about, it works great and the new air series is light as hell | 08:25 |
| Kiranos_ | jollas main thing with swipe I feel is to operate the phone with one hand, that does not apply to a tablet | 08:25 |
| Nicd- | oh you're talking about jolla, not nokia? | 08:26 |
| meklu | I don't think taps work particularly well on tablets either | 08:26 |
| Nicd- | jolla's announcement is tomorrow | 08:26 |
| Nicd- | nokia's is today | 08:26 |
| meklu | a tappety-tap-tap-tap interface blows | 08:26 |
| meklu | :< | 08:26 |
| meklu | doesn't matter what the device is | 08:27 |
| Warnaud | somebody posted here ( https://twitter.com/nokia/status/534345460333285377/photo/1 ) doesn't look like (to me) a tablet, maybe a phone or TV/cloud box | 08:27 |
| Acce | one button interfaces are best | 08:27 |
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| Nicd- | Warnaud: they're not doing phones anymore | 08:27 |
| meklu | unless it's a telegraph or something | 08:27 |
| Nicd- | so it's not going to be a phone | 08:27 |
| Acce | hold for 5 seconds to go to call menu - hold for 2 seconds to open your app - tap to continue | 08:27 |
| Kiranos_ | nokies seems like a rip off of apple tv :) | 08:27 |
| Kiranos_ | jollas announcement was what I was thining about, I hope its a new phone | 08:27 |
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| Kiranos_ | take what you've learned from this year and improove the hickups | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | I don't think jolla's announcement is a phone either | 08:28 |
| Kiranos_ | no think jollas will be a tablet :( | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | there's just no way with their current sales | 08:28 |
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| meklu | I hope it's not a new phone yet | 08:29 |
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| meklu | a year-long shelf-life would sound pretty silly | 08:29 |
| Acce | there's no way because they announced the current model as "new" in few countries just recently | 08:29 |
| meklu | yup | 08:29 |
| Acce | bad move to piss off the supporters | 08:29 |
| Nicd- | and it would kill the sales of the original phone | 08:30 |
| meklu | I'd suspect they might have some plans a year from now | 08:30 |
| Acce | I hope it's something that the world has not seen yet | 08:30 |
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| Acce | something really new.. but my hopes are not high :< | 08:30 |
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| Warnaud | I hope for a "special" Other Half | 08:31 |
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| entil | what does "special" mean for you? | 08:33 |
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| Warnaud | Well some nice new tools or extensions capabilities (extra battery/double sim/connectors/back screen) | 08:34 |
| sqozz | a TOH that have another use besides looking nice is "special" for me :) | 08:34 |
| mornfall | tohkbd :) | 08:35 |
| entil | the thing is that there's some community effort for most of that | 08:35 |
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| entil | so it's not likely jolla will get involved, though yeah, there should be official jolla toh's | 08:35 |
| mornfall | a stable update would be nice you know :P | 08:35 |
| Warnaud | yes I know, just thinking they might have done one, it would be easier for jolla | 08:35 |
| entil | but if/when their business strategy is in partnerships, they'd shoot themselves in the head with going for tohs | 08:35 |
| entil | mornfall: :D | 08:35 |
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| Warnaud | yes also I agree, they can also annouce some kind of partnership to push/manufacture faster TOH | 08:37 |
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| Warnaud | I have a small question for you guys, in my android days I used and abuse of a software called Pocket (I also have it as plugin in my Web Browsers) do you know of an alternative that would run on Sailfish OS? (it's the only missing part I would need :) ) | 08:39 |
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| pp_ | ha, http://i.nokia.com/r/image/view/-/2434034/extraHighRes/1/-/Nokia-BH-221-Hero-jpg.jpg | 08:40 |
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| mornfall | pp_: kind of big isn't it? | 08:43 |
| pp_ | yea, + old product anyway | 08:43 |
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| tehdely | pp_: i bought one of those | 08:47 |
| tehdely | the OLED display is barely visible | 08:47 |
| tehdely | this is apparently a very common problem with them | 08:47 |
| tehdely | i have to have all of the lights off to make out anything it says. nokia never acknowledged the problem or provided a fix. | 08:47 |
| tehdely | it's actually a pretty neat device otherwise but i feel like I got ripped off. | 08:48 |
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| * gexc just got the jolla utility update and thinks jolla is using machine translation for Chinese :-( | 08:53 | |
| Nicd- | guys | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | it's a tablet | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | http://n1.nokia.com/ | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | android tablet | 08:57 |
| meklu | oh, x86_64 | 08:57 |
| meklu | that's not something you'll see every day in that market | 08:57 |
| gexc | #wat | 08:57 |
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| ln- | seriously, an android tablet? #whocares | 08:58 |
| SK_work | looks pretty | 08:58 |
| gexc | looks like Nokia DC-1 the powerpack | 08:58 |
| meklu | hmm, z launcher is still a thing | 08:58 |
| SK_work | I will wait for the 9th iteration | 08:59 |
| meklu | heh | 08:59 |
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| Nicd- | now the site went blank | 08:59 |
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| SK_work | looks pretty, based on AOSP ? | 08:59 |
| Nicd- | guess they revealed too early | 08:59 |
| meklu | a fairly boring product though :< | 08:59 |
| Nicd- | SK_work: no info | 08:59 |
| meklu | it'll probably be back in an hour | 09:00 |
| SK_work | meklu: boring, but pretty | 09:00 |
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| meklu | SK_work: agreed | 09:00 |
| SK_work | they know how to do a product | 09:00 |
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| SK_work | (HW wise) | 09:01 |
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| * gexc saw a big black box ? | 09:01 | |
| SK_work | gexc: you missed it :D | 09:01 |
| SK_work | anyone got screens ? :) | 09:01 |
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| meklu | gexc: it was a tablet with the zlauncher | 09:01 |
| meklu | https://www.zlauncher.com/ | 09:01 |
| meklu | no screens, sorry :< | 09:02 |
| Tegu | yea we need screens | 09:02 |
| gexc | lol | 09:02 |
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| Tegu | i just got the teaser page | 09:02 |
| meklu | already managed to navigate away from it | 09:02 |
| Tegu | :( | 09:02 |
| meklu | but it's got a quad-core 64-bit intel cpu | 09:02 |
| Tegu | maybe browser cache? | 09:02 |
| TemeV | das windows 7 + firefox cache images somewhere? | 09:02 |
| meklu | so an x86_64 android tablet | 09:02 |
| TemeV | *does | 09:02 |
| gexc | sounds funny... | 09:05 |
| lainwir3d | hi | 09:05 |
| Scelt | https://www.dropbox.com/s/dhhslf9f9bgnavo/nokia_n1.JPG?dl=0 | 09:07 |
| Scelt | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/541672/Nokia%20N1.html | 09:07 |
| SK_work | thx Scelt | 09:07 |
| gexc | thanks | 09:07 |
| SK_work | you are the best :) | 09:07 |
| Tegu | they circulate around IRC now | 09:08 |
| Tegu | dunno, but that a tablet? meh.. | 09:09 |
| gexc | Nokia and Intel, without meego, hmm... | 09:09 |
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| leinir | intel's been pushing anroid for a while now | 09:10 |
| tadzik | N1? That's, like, years behind N900 :( | 09:11 |
| tadzik | (/s) | 09:11 |
| juergbi | atom with powervr graphics :/ | 09:11 |
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| leinir | huh... interesting choice, intel won't have been happy about that | 09:14 |
| marinaio | I though Intel used HD graphics on its tablet soc | 09:14 |
| marinaio | thought | 09:14 |
| juergbi | leinir: intel designed that chip, so.... | 09:14 |
| TMavica | i have interest on it.. | 09:15 |
| juergbi | it looks like they still make powervr SoCs in addition to the intel HD graphics SoCs | 09:15 |
| TMavica | but will see how Jolla tablet look like too | 09:15 |
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| gexc | possibilities for mer on it? | 09:16 |
| entil | people keep mentioning atom, is that something we should care about? | 09:16 |
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| meklu | "oh no, the horror, it's not an i7" | 09:17 |
| ggabriel | o/ | 09:18 |
| meklu | \o | 09:18 |
| ggabriel | anybody here owns a nocs ns500? (headphones, in-ear) | 09:19 |
| ggabriel | i know it sounds like an unrelated question, but htey have an android and non-android version | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | i wanted to know if anybody tried them on the jolla :D | 09:20 |
| meklu | I've never owned any in-ear headphones, so I can't help you with that D: | 09:21 |
| ggabriel | i guess it's all about the 3 button "remote" | 09:22 |
| ggabriel | which i really don't care about | 09:22 |
| ln- | is nokia on silver stage? | 09:22 |
| meklu | yup | 09:23 |
| ln- | roger | 09:23 |
| ggabriel | what are they saying? | 09:23 |
| ln- | they're only just about to start | 09:24 |
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| Acce | a tablet? | 09:25 |
| Acce | uhh, why | 09:26 |
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| SK_work | Acce: because no phone | 09:26 |
| Acce | yeah, but a tablet is not really that far from a phone.. I wonder who they think will buy it | 09:26 |
| SK_work | Acce: it don't look that bad | 09:27 |
| Acce | it might be nice hardware platform for sailfish OS though | 09:27 |
| SK_work | if heavily advertized, it can be nice | 09:27 |
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| SK_work | Acce: wait for tomorrow :) maybe the sailfish tablet is here | 09:27 |
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| Acce | I don't mean it looks bad, I mean, the android tablet market is just flooded imo | 09:28 |
| SK_work | Acce: the tablet market | 09:28 |
| SK_work | indeed | 09:28 |
| SK_work | it's hard | 09:28 |
| SK_work | but that's their only way to get something I guess | 09:28 |
| entil | so someone cooks up a "scribble a glyph" launcher for sailfish and trololo | 09:28 |
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| Acce | (my opinions might be biased by the fact that I still don't see the use case for a tablet if you have a good phone :P ) | 09:28 |
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| Scelt | ggabriel: http://cloudfront.slush.org/live/ | 09:29 |
| meklu | a tablet is pretty useless | 09:29 |
| SK_work | Acce: I have x phones y tablets z computers at home, and close to all of them are useful | 09:29 |
| SK_work | (except one tablet) | 09:29 |
| Scelt | silve starge -> "Live stream" | 09:29 |
| SK_work | x y z > 2 | 09:29 |
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| ggabriel | Scelt: ta | 09:29 |
| SK_work | gf likes the 7' tablet, much nicer than a phone, and less clumsy than a computer | 09:30 |
| leinir | z is not pronounced c :P | 09:30 |
| Acce | hmm | 09:30 |
| Acce | well, we'll see how nokia's breach to the market will fare | 09:30 |
| leinir | (yes, i know it in in the US, but they suck at pronunciation anyway ;) ) | 09:30 |
| entil | the only people buying that will be patriotic finns | 09:30 |
| entil | "finally we can support the fatherland!" | 09:31 |
| Acce | but they should concentrate on making something revolutionary, rather than take over the old markets | 09:31 |
| Acce | entil: we can support it by buying n Jollas :P | 09:31 |
| entil | sure | 09:31 |
| entil | jolla launched here as beta, that may have put off some people tho | 09:32 |
| entil | fortunately finland's a relatively small market | 09:32 |
| TMavica | If Jolla no any special on Jolla Tablet, just with big screen, it is no reason to buy it | 09:32 |
| ggabriel | not sure whether he's announcing an "app" or an os or what | 09:33 |
| Aciid | I need a new coffee coaster anyways. so a jolla tablet is welcome | 09:34 |
| Aciid | for everything else there is mastercard | 09:34 |
| * gexc is not going to buy any digitizer-less tablets | 09:34 | |
| Hartzi | Lol, nokia made a tablet :P | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | ah, there you go, it runs android | 09:36 |
| ggabriel | meh | 09:36 |
| meklu | holy shit | 09:36 |
| meklu | $249 | 09:36 |
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| Acce | only 249$? | 09:36 |
| SK_work | the price is awesome | 09:36 |
| Acce | for that hardware?? | 09:37 |
| SK_work | deal breaker | 09:37 |
| SK_work | how much ram ? | 09:37 |
| Scelt | 2 | 09:37 |
| SK_work | tablet for the next billion | 09:37 |
| gexc | lol | 09:37 |
| entil | is that much? | 09:37 |
| entil | lol I can't believe how out of the tablet and whatever scene I am :P | 09:38 |
| ggabriel | i'd buy a jolla tablet tho | 09:38 |
| ggabriel | despite the fact that i don't need one | 09:38 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: is it a Jolla tablet ? :) | 09:38 |
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| SK_work | maybe phone 2 ? | 09:38 |
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| SK_work | the world don't need yet another tablet indeed | 09:39 |
| SK_work | a better experience could be: remove those soft keys please ? | 09:39 |
| Warnaud | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/17/nokia_mystery_product/ :D lol the "5th" item | 09:40 |
| entil | <3 | 09:40 |
| gexc | hmm...kidnapped by ms, sold to ms, making tablets again, making phones again,..what's the points of all this... | 09:40 |
| ggabriel | SK_work: my comment was unrelated to tomorrow's announcement :) | 09:40 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: ha ? | 09:40 |
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| Acce | I hope it's Jolla virtual reality glasses! then I can just Jolla all my life | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | ok, so the tablet is cheap | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | is there any other differentiating factor? | 09:42 |
| meklu | the launcher | 09:43 |
| meklu | and that's about it | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | but the launcher seems to be available on google play for others too | 09:43 |
| Scelt | aluminium body, chinese partner, running nose. anyone??? | 09:43 |
| Warnaud | Acce: +1 | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | maybe jolla's reveal tomorrow is sailfishos on the nokia n1 ;) | 09:44 |
| SK_work | Nicd-: lol | 09:44 |
| gexc | lol | 09:44 |
| SK_work | the edge doesn't match | 09:44 |
| Acce | "It's a rendering problem" | 09:44 |
| * gexc is wondering when will the product name count to n9 again | 09:45 | |
| SK_work | maybe in 9 years ? | 09:45 |
| gexc | lol | 09:46 |
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| Scelt | then they will skip to n10 because of 3rd party if-clauses: if (OS.version startsWith 'N9') | 09:46 |
| tadzik | :D | 09:46 |
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| gexc | :-/ | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | or maybe they just do lowercase n | 09:47 |
| lainwir3d | I'm probably not looking at the good live stream, cause it doesn't seems to have something to do with nokia | 09:47 |
| tadzik | implying there is 3rdparty software for n9** | 09:47 |
| meklu | lainwir3d: it ended already | 09:47 |
| lainwir3d | damn | 09:47 |
| Nicd- | http://n1.nokia.com/ is open again | 09:47 |
| meklu | has been for a few minutes | 09:47 |
| ggabriel | yet-another-android-gizmo | 09:48 |
| fennekki | well, at least it's not google | 09:48 |
| fennekki | shruug | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | oh, he meant z, not c | 09:48 |
| Milo- | sailfish maybe | 09:48 |
| gexc | wat, webos-style round icons? | 09:48 |
| fennekki | and Nokia's stuff seems better than the Samsung crapware | 09:48 |
| SK_work | fennekki: let's see | 09:48 |
| fennekki | I absolutely hate Touchwiz | 09:48 |
| SK_work | what I want is a not-so-closed bootloader | 09:48 |
| SK_work | well, I already have this, on the Nexus 7 | 09:49 |
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| Nicd- | did anyone notice, it uses MicroUSB type C | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | which is reversible like lightning | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | first device I've seen with that | 09:50 |
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| SK_work | Nicd-: yep | 09:50 |
| SK_work | seen this | 09:50 |
| SK_work | compatible with microusb ? | 09:50 |
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| Nicd- | with an adapter :P | 09:51 |
| Warnaud | :D | 09:51 |
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| gexc | nokia 'yet-another-android-tablet' n1 | 09:54 |
| SK_work | :( | 09:55 |
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| SK_work | see this: https://twitter.com/SirajSoft/status/534644791208730624 | 09:55 |
| lainwir3d | New jolla device is in fact a coffee chocolate : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2rSz08IAAAdpOj.jpg | 09:56 |
| Nicd- | :D | 09:56 |
| lainwir3d | (with bluetooth) | 09:57 |
| SK_work | I have seen this one from Yves | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | (don't ask me how it works) | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | SK_work: it's from Yves :) | 09:57 |
| SK_work | he is pretty good at having fun with Jolla renders | 09:57 |
| Blizzz | coffee++ chocolate++ | 09:57 |
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| SK_work | he made a sofa with the OH close up | 09:57 |
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| * SK_work waits for Marc Dillon on stage tomorrow | 10:02 | |
| SK_work | because Marc Dillon = <3 | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | I've shook Marc's hand! | 10:03 |
| Nicd- | greatest moment of my life | 10:03 |
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| SK_work | Nicd-: me too | 10:05 |
| SK_work | several times :P | 10:05 |
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| Scelt | Nicd-: never washed your hand since? | 10:06 |
| Nicd- | Scelt: nope! | 10:06 |
| Nicd- | it's starting to get moldy though | 10:06 |
| meklu | slap some vinegar on it | 10:07 |
| meklu | that should preserve it a bit better | 10:07 |
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| tbr | keithzg: pdo is sort of what you get at build.merproject.org if you go to the right view | 10:14 |
| tbr | (just noticed in scrollback) | 10:14 |
| tadzik | (damn, those here maps are actually quite sweet) | 10:15 |
| tadzik | except that I had to absolutely sign up to download the maps for offline use, but they didn't even bother to verify the email, so that's alright | 10:15 |
| flux | I wouldn't mind, though, if the native here maps app was better :) | 10:17 |
| tadzik | yeah, same | 10:18 |
| AL13N_work | i don't have any update :-( | 10:18 |
| AL13N_work | i just checked | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | where are all #jolla people at #slush? | 10:19 |
| AL13N_work | kimmoli: are you there? | 10:20 |
| phaeron | kimmoli: tomorrow | 10:20 |
| kimmoli | yes | 10:20 |
| * tadzik imagines kimmoli as a real-life derp | 10:20 | |
| tadzik | or however that meme face is called | 10:20 |
| kimmoli | heh | 10:21 |
| kimmoli | trying to locate someone | 10:21 |
| tbr | kimmoli: was told that slush costs couple of hundred and decided that it's not for me then | 10:22 |
| kimmoli | not cheap yes | 10:22 |
| meklu | four hundred* | 10:22 |
| AL13N_work | wut | 10:23 |
| AL13N_work | and what is at slush? | 10:23 |
| AL13N_work | is there anything worth seeing? | 10:23 |
| meklu | it's startup conference thing | 10:23 |
| meklu | +a | 10:23 |
| meklu | not convinced there's anything interesting there | 10:23 |
| meklu | apart from maybe the jolla announcement | 10:23 |
| ln- | what's nokia doing at a startup conference? | 10:24 |
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| tadzik | reminiscing the times when it was cool | 10:24 |
| Frye | ln-, they are starting over? :D | 10:25 |
| meklu | oh, it starts at 10.35 tomorrow | 10:25 |
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| meklu | (8.35 UTC) | 10:25 |
| meklu | marc dillon's presentation/talk/w/e | 10:26 |
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| TheBootroo|work | Hi ! | 10:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | Wazup ? | 10:27 |
| ggabriel | TheBootroo|work: o/ | 10:27 |
| ggabriel | nokia has a new tablet | 10:27 |
| ggabriel | it runs <drums>android</drums>! | 10:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | yeah and it's pretty boring | 10:27 |
| ggabriel | earth shattering news | 10:27 |
| ender| | has anybody had sometimes been unable to answer calls on Uitukka? The phone rings, I pull it out of my pocket, but the display doesn't respond to anything until it stops ringing (volume button works however) | 10:27 |
| Frye | it ru(i)ns android? | 10:27 |
| ggabriel | ender|: too many applications open? | 10:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | Yet another Android tablet | 10:27 |
| ender| | ggabriel: nothing open at all | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | Frye: android is already ruined | 10:28 |
| Frye | hehe | 10:28 |
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| meklu | android was stillborn | 10:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | What do you guys expect for tomorow from jolla ? | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | TheBootroo|work: a spare battery | 10:28 |
| meklu | probably a tablet | 10:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | Me : a big phablet, huge HW specs, Jolla 2 | 10:28 |
| ender| | the touchscreen simply refuses to acknowledge that i'm touching it until the moment the phone stops ringing | 10:28 |
| meklu | ggabriel: expectations, not wishes :) | 10:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | maybe 6.6" | 10:28 |
| ln- | an android tablet | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | meklu: my expectations are pretty low | 10:28 |
| tbr | ender|: I've had it that the display would wake up but lock on the ringing screen and not react to touch | 10:28 |
| meklu | a phablet would seriously suck | 10:28 |
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| ender| | tbr: any workaround? | 10:29 |
| kimmoli | wed only 205€ | 10:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | Not sure how the current jolla UI would be used on a 8" or more screen | 10:29 |
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| TheBootroo|work | i don't know what i would prefer | 10:29 |
| meklu | there was a speculative UX blog post about such an interface recently | 10:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | meklu: link ? | 10:29 |
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| tbr | ender|: not really | 10:30 |
| tbr | ender|: hoping that it got fixed for U10 | 10:30 |
| ender| | :p | 10:30 |
| meklu | TheBootroo|work: http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.com/2014/10/multi-touch-and-bigger-screens.html | 10:31 |
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| entil | meklu: nice | 11:14 |
| entil | haha btw, nokia should've called the tablet n+1 to signify that there are already n android tablets out there | 11:14 |
| Nicd- | n^2 | 11:15 |
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| meklu | n² would work to signify its flatness, since it wasn't a box after all | 11:16 |
| meklu | n³ would've worked for a streaming box | 11:17 |
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| SK_work | symbian s^3 | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | yeah, they have experience with that kind of naming | 11:19 |
| ahjolinna | the Nokia N1 tablet uses Intel atom, so it should be easy to install Linux on it and SailfishOS to it | 11:19 |
| meklu | depends on the bootloader | 11:20 |
| meklu | and how locked up the whole thing i | 11:20 |
| meklu | s | 11:20 |
| ahjolinna | true | 11:20 |
| leinir | a reminder that the part of nokia that cared about openness is no longer a part of nokia ;) | 11:20 |
| ahjolinna | I hope for the best | 11:20 |
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| pp_ | foxconn probably wants to sell a bunch of tablets -> they don't care | 11:21 |
| ahjolinna | it would be fun if you could hack on it | 11:21 |
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| ahjolinna | the Nokia N1 specs. are fun for that price : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/252910-nokia-n1-8-inch-android-lollipop-tablet-with-ipad-like-design-and-64-bit-intel-processor/ | 11:22 |
| pp_ | re tomorrows announcement, my guess is vendor X(iaomi?) licensing SF and launching a device | 11:23 |
| SK_work | pp_: no Xiaomi | 11:23 |
| SK_work | they got SO MUCH success | 11:23 |
| leinir | oneplus two ;) | 11:23 |
| SK_work | don't think so either | 11:23 |
| SK_work | maybe some no name chinese retailer | 11:23 |
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| TMavica | NO ANY CHINA BRAND... | 11:26 |
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| AL13N_work | the new update, is that only for the ones signed up? cause i don't have it yet :-( | 11:32 |
| SK_work | AL13N_work: released as opt-in indeed | 11:32 |
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| iamtew | any word on when it will be released for the rest of us? | 11:35 |
| AL13N_work | ok, so it's another fix on the opt-in one | 11:35 |
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| AL13N_work | well, i would prefer it be released then the connman issues are straightened out :-) | 11:35 |
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| AL13N_work | i didn't see any tagged question on tjc yet though | 11:36 |
| stephg | iamtew: it may never be | 11:36 |
| stephg | (the changes may be rolled into u10) | 11:36 |
| iamtew | that's not very reassuring | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | I think U9 will be skipped for the rest and released with U10 | 11:36 |
| tadzik | multitouch is cool and all but you still can't tap two checkboxes at the same time | 11:36 |
| tadzik | Nicd-: inspired by windows :P | 11:36 |
| meklu | inspired by "holy shit this has some issues" | 11:37 |
| AL13N_work | iamtew: they are migrating to a new version of connman, so it's best that all is fixed before i get it | 11:37 |
| Tegu | and then u10 will be given as opt-in as well? and its features will be given to everybody in u11? :P | 11:37 |
| tadzik | jU11a | 11:37 |
| AL13N_work | well, unless it's not noob-friendly or doesn't work right, i doubt they are gonna go there | 11:37 |
| AL13N_work | then again, you can opt-in for it if you want to | 11:38 |
| Tegu | yea | 11:38 |
| AL13N_work | it's my primary phone, so i don't | 11:38 |
| pp_ | seems to work fine despite the warnings of being buggy :-) | 11:38 |
| pp_ | (or maybe I just don't use a lot of memory) | 11:38 |
| AL13N_work | pp_: did you find any release notes for the last opt-in update? | 11:39 |
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| AL13N_work | i suppose it's 1.1.0.40 or something | 11:39 |
| Tegu | yup, I guess I won't opt-in either.. | 11:39 |
| Scelt | pp_: better than used to be. haven't halted a phone once because of messageserver5 (email sync?) not getting what it wants | 11:39 |
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| Scelt | AL13N_work: primary phone here too. been better since opt-in update | 11:40 |
| Scelt | AL13N_work: but of course it's risky | 11:40 |
| AL13N_work | Scelt: what's the version? | 11:40 |
| Scelt | 1.1.0.39 | 11:41 |
| pp_ | 1.1.0.38 vs 39? | 11:41 |
| Scelt | no newer available for me | 11:41 |
| AL13N_work | 1.1.0.39 is the old one from 24.10 | 11:41 |
| Scelt | what. new opt-in? | 11:41 |
| AL13N_work | i donno, yesterday some people said something about yay update or something | 11:41 |
| Nicd- | sailfish utilities was just updated | 11:42 |
| AL13N_work | ah | 11:42 |
| Scelt | yeah, that updated | 11:42 |
| kimmoli | meh, 3G is so.poor upstairs at slush | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | too many devices :P | 11:45 |
| Tegu | I would imagine that it is a bit congested | 11:45 |
| kimmoli | have to come downstairs to get comms | 11:45 |
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| AL13N_work | ah, so it's "shielded" ? | 11:47 |
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| pdanek | Does anyone have link to today's Nokia stream from Slush? | 12:07 |
| Scelt | http://cloudfront.slush.org/live/ | 12:07 |
| pdanek | It happened already, maybe some archive? | 12:07 |
| pdanek | thx | 12:07 |
| pdanek | Seems old streams can't be watched anymore. | 12:09 |
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| pdanek | It's on YT! | 12:11 |
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| pdanek1 | http://youtu.be/2yJxGdWkcMo | 12:12 |
| entil | do they stream everything? | 12:12 |
| entil | in case I get to catch marc tomorrow | 12:12 |
| pdanek1 | no, only 3 videos on Slush seem to be on YT as for now | 12:13 |
| Scelt | entil: seems so | 12:13 |
| entil | yay | 12:13 |
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| pdanek1 | maybe they stream everythoing | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | but not everything is on YT immediately | 12:13 |
| Scelt | entil: different streams for every stage | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | but also this Nokia video | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | is mandatory for all Sailors | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | just because | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | ! | 12:13 |
| pdanek1 | :D | 12:13 |
| marinaio | they stream everything, but not everything gets uploaded on youtube | 12:14 |
| pdanek1 | ye | 12:14 |
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| pdanek1 | Are you all watching? | 12:20 |
| pdanek1 | :D | 12:20 |
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| ahjolinna | I think the slogan should be; Nokia N1 - fancy way of saying that Windows was a mistake | 12:29 |
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| ruskie | hehe | 12:36 |
| ruskie | it actually looks nice | 12:36 |
| ruskie | still would prefer a jolla tablet | 12:36 |
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| AL13N_work | that nokia thing, is that some kind of phablet? | 12:38 |
| pdanek | no, tablet | 12:38 |
| popey | looks more like a tablet | 12:38 |
| ahjolinna | just a tablet | 12:38 |
| Tofe | It does look nice. But they still do the same mistake, I think: they announce it too early. February/March is too far ! | 12:38 |
| ahjolinna | intel tablet | 12:38 |
| pdanek | Android tablet with Lollipop with Z launcher on top of it | 12:38 |
| pdanek | and it was presented the Apple way | 12:38 |
| AL13N_work | that Z launcher sounds stupid | 12:39 |
| pdanek | Why? | 12:39 |
| AL13N_work | it's like little kids | 12:39 |
| pdanek | Looks reasonable to me, I have a lot of issues with finding the app I need. | 12:40 |
| Mirv | that must be cultural, to me it sounds stupid only because it reminds me of a certain work/project management system ;) | 12:40 |
| AL13N_work | i would prefer sailfishos... | 12:40 |
| AL13N_work | instead of yaAndroid | 12:40 |
| ruskie | AL13N_work, I'd prefer a tablet designed by jolla but also sailfosh made for a tablet | 12:41 |
| fennekki | crackpot theory: Sailfish for N1 tomorrow | 12:41 |
| pdanek | The hype! | 12:41 |
| pdanek | Except that the image shown on jolla.com doesn't match. | 12:41 |
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| pdanek | It's from different dveice. | 12:41 |
| pdanek | So maybe Jolla tablet + Sailfish for N1 | 12:41 |
| pdanek | Or, shark with lasers other half | 12:42 |
| Nav | I'd buy it! | 12:42 |
| Nav | *EVERYTHING* is better with lasers | 12:42 |
| AL13N_work | lol | 12:42 |
| Nav | and sharks | 12:42 |
| Warnaud | ture | 12:42 |
| Warnaud | :D | 12:42 |
| pdanek | very true | 12:42 |
| ruskie | hehe | 12:42 |
| Warnaud | true* | 12:42 |
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| Tegu | laser pointer toh | 12:43 |
| AL13N_work | laser battery toh | 12:44 |
| Tegu | with lastu shark | 12:44 |
| pdanek | :D | 12:44 |
| Nav | Hmmm, I have some lasers and a 3d printer.... | 12:44 |
| Nav | Just need a shark... | 12:44 |
| AL13N_work | laser keyboard toh | 12:44 |
| Tegu | AL13N_work: like this? http://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2011/08/16/26a7a1dc-fdb8-11e2-8c7c-d4ae52e62bcc/0bc28d65356045f3443bbe92ebf364dd/e722_cube_laser_virtual_keyboard_for_iphone_inuse.jpg | 12:45 |
| Tegu | crazy url | 12:45 |
| AL13N_work | crazy | 12:45 |
| anonfriese | awh, laser keyboards!!! are they still around? had one in 2006 or sth. like that with my old palm :) | 12:46 |
| stephg | can't be for an apple product, there's a DEL key! | 12:46 |
| anonfriese | if it still works with modern smaartphones? doesn't jolla have bt-hid support by now? | 12:47 |
| flux | quite few new backers on tohkbd since the jolla pre-announcement.. ;-) | 12:48 |
| pdanek | :O | 12:48 |
| pdanek | 1000 is the goal | 12:49 |
| AL13N_work | stephg: lol | 12:49 |
| pdanek | I wonder if anyone will buy HERO edition | 12:50 |
| flux | well, if they won't announce jolla2.0 I'm pretty sure it will be reached. similarly, if they announce a physically compatible jolla1.1 or jolla2.0 or something else completely, I think 1000 will be reached :) | 12:50 |
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| pdanek | Maybe they announce new CEO coming from Microsoft. | 12:51 |
| Tegu | :D | 12:51 |
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| fennekki | pdanek: maybe Microsoft bought Jolla already | 12:51 |
| Tofe | pdanek: from Google ;) | 12:51 |
| fennekki | no, wait | 12:52 |
| fennekki | maybe Facebook purchased Jolla | 12:52 |
| flux | jolla1.1 compatible with the US market would be pretty big.. | 12:52 |
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| fennekki | compatible with the US market | 12:52 |
| fennekki | do you mean a model that can be vendor locked? | 12:52 |
| AL13N_work | it would be funny if Jolla announced as new CEO elop | 12:52 |
| flux | no, support the 3g frequencies in the US | 12:52 |
| fennekki | ooohh | 12:52 |
| fennekki | right | 12:52 |
| AL13N_work | sounds like a good april fools joke | 12:52 |
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| AL13N_work | flux: you mean 4G? | 12:53 |
| flux | well, ok, 4G as well :). now they are mostly in the 2G land? | 12:53 |
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| pdanek | I got so used to 4G already, there is no way back. | 12:53 |
| AL13N_work | i thought only 4G frequencies | 12:53 |
| AL13N_work | i can be wrong | 12:53 |
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| flux | noo, i think 2G is it. | 12:54 |
| pdanek | I think with Jolla in US, you get only 2G | 12:54 |
| pdanek | 70% sure | 12:54 |
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| marinaio | https://together.jolla.com/question/54269/4g-in-the-usa/ | 12:55 |
| marinaio | only 2g in usa, as pdanek said | 12:55 |
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| flux | someone should've built a 3g/4g ToH ;-) | 12:57 |
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| flux | (but not feasible - for one, I2C is too slow to be worth the trouble) | 12:58 |
| fennekki | that'd need a peculiar firmware hac | 12:58 |
| fennekki | k | 12:58 |
| Mirv | pdanek: yes, I was in US last month, 2G only :S | 12:58 |
| Mirv | althought cheap rates now thanks to my operator, it was reasonable to use some data if needed | 12:58 |
| Mirv | but if I was living there, obviously it wouldn't cut it | 12:58 |
| ggabriel | it isn't like the US mobile network works very fast anyway | 12:59 |
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| flux | ..it must be faster than 2G anyway :) | 13:00 |
| flux | you should switch to 2G to refresh your memories about its performance ;-) | 13:01 |
| AL13N_work | bluetooth 4G should be possible | 13:01 |
| AL13N_work | with I2C control bus | 13:01 |
| ggabriel | not planning/willing to go back to the US soon | 13:01 |
| ggabriel | but it was pretty bad when i was there | 13:01 |
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| ggabriel | and yes, as fast or slower than GPRS | 13:01 |
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| Armadillo | did they announce the Nokia Toaster? :) | 13:37 |
| sec | Yes | 13:37 |
| sec | Tablet | 13:37 |
| pdanek | Why not, Europeans will always give EU product slight advantage in deciding what to buy. | 13:38 |
| fennekki | pdanek: nah | 13:38 |
| pdanek | So they can succeed with Nokia N1. | 13:38 |
| pdanek | hm | 13:38 |
| fennekki | but Europeans *will* often prefer products from their own country | 13:39 |
| pdanek | Maybe depends on country. | 13:39 |
| pdanek | I'm not Finnish and I would prefer Nokia just because it's European poroduct. | 13:39 |
| tadzik | same | 13:39 |
| ln- | Made in China. | 13:39 |
| covox | clearly foxconn have done some (if not all) of the engineering | 13:39 |
| tadzik | hey, at least it's not a US company | 13:39 |
| Scelt | ln-: what it's nowadays? | 13:39 |
| sec | Clothes | 13:40 |
| Scelt | ln-: what isn't I meant to ask | 13:40 |
| pdanek | Doesn't matter where it's made, nowadays everything will come from all parts of the world. | 13:40 |
| pdanek | Matters if Europe gets money for it or not. | 13:40 |
| pdanek | Ir it supports EU companies or not. | 13:40 |
| covox | http://www.ft.com/fastft/238102/nokia-launches-tablet-partnership-with-foxconn | 13:40 |
| sec | Those are Indian, Bangladeshi | 13:40 |
| Nicd- | well, finns will probably eat it up. we are pretty much the only country where windows phone is popular | 13:40 |
| Scelt | sec: yeah, they are from bangladesh | 13:40 |
| pdanek | http://highway.slush.org/ - Silver Stage | 13:41 |
| pdanek | 14:40 - Europe: big ocean, small fish | 13:41 |
| Nicd- | did you notice? 'But Mr Haidamus said that "we will be looking at going into the cell phone licensing business post-Microsoft rights".' | 13:41 |
| Nicd- | about Nokia | 13:41 |
| ShadowJK | covox; foxconn does all the engineering, manufacturing, distribution (!) and sales (!) | 13:41 |
| ShadowJK | so basically it's 0 risk for Nokia, they get a percentage of every device foxconn manages to sell? | 13:42 |
| pdanek | But the things Foxconn does, are they really with high margin? | 13:42 |
| pdanek | Development & design is what we need to do in Europe. | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: .. and care! | 13:42 |
| covox | that part isn't so surprising, they've been jonesing to release their own hardware based on their accrued manufacturing know-how (asus style) for a while | 13:42 |
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| covox | now leasing the hollowed-out corpse of nokia for branding? that's an interesting move | 13:43 |
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| ShadowJK | Stskeeps; yeah! Let's see if foxconn can do worse :D | 13:44 |
| pdanek | Nokia manufacturing will not return to Finland, forget it. | 13:44 |
| pdanek | R&D is the strength. | 13:45 |
| pdanek | Days of high quality German-made products are gone. :( | 13:45 |
| Jope | not to mention the days of high quality finnish made products. :-D | 13:46 |
| Scelt | Nokia products <3 | 13:46 |
| Scelt | like Hakkapeliitta | 13:46 |
| Scelt | still made in Finland (and Russia) | 13:46 |
| Jope | at least those are still mostly made in .fi | 13:46 |
| Jope | then again my next winters probably won't be hkpl8s :-/ | 13:47 |
| Jope | I'll be contributing to the downfall | 13:47 |
| Scelt | Jope: sissy | 13:47 |
| Jope | sissy? | 13:47 |
| Scelt | Hakkapeliittas or nothing! | 13:47 |
| Jope | more like I have lots of money holes so I need to look at the price too :-D | 13:47 |
| Scelt | eat less, drive more :P | 13:47 |
| Jope | kek | 13:47 |
| Scelt | no, they are very expensive | 13:47 |
| Scelt | that's true | 13:47 |
| ShadowJK | I vaguely recall new nokia tyres getting bad reviews, something to do with trying to be more "eco", so all the studs are either useless or fall out? | 13:48 |
| * ShadowJK shrugs | 13:48 | |
| Jope | yeh 800e for hkpl8s vs. 600e for goodyears.. | 13:48 |
| Jope | ShadowJK, that was a LONG time ago with the hkpl4 | 13:48 |
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| Jope | we're talking 10 years ago | 13:48 |
| Jope | and it was one bad batch | 13:48 |
| ShadowJK | oh | 13:48 |
| Jope | which they recalled | 13:48 |
| Jope | I remember those tyres being sold later :-) | 13:48 |
| Scelt | yeah, I still have a set of hakkapeliitta 4s | 13:48 |
| Jope | with SCRAP marks burned on them | 13:48 |
| Scelt | 90 % of studs still there | 13:48 |
| Jope | scelt heh.. I hope as museum pieces? | 13:48 |
| Jope | or are they nordman 4s? | 13:49 |
| pp_ | my hakka4's (from .ru I'd guess) were ok | 13:49 |
| ShadowJK | well, 10yo is roughly what my source for all car-related stuff, my coworkers, consider brand new | 13:49 |
| Scelt | Jope: no, under car | 13:49 |
| Jope | wow | 13:49 |
| pp_ | or was it nordman the russian brand | 13:49 |
| Jope | nordman is the nokia el-cheapo brand yes | 13:49 |
| Scelt | Jope: in good shape! only hard | 13:49 |
| Jope | old models get demoted to nordman | 13:49 |
| Jope | scelt indeed.. they're in "eternity mode" now | 13:49 |
| Jope | no traction, but they don't wear either! | 13:49 |
| Jope | you've only got the studs to provide grip :-) | 13:49 |
| Jope | the rubber compound is hardened | 13:49 |
| Scelt | Jope: nah, they are okay. mfc in '07 | 13:49 |
| Nicd- | btw, the tires are not Nokia | 13:49 |
| Nicd- | they are _Nokian_ | 13:50 |
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| Jope | dude, those tyres were old in 2010 already :-) | 13:50 |
| Jope | 3 years is just about the max that the rubber in winter tyres still works | 13:50 |
| Scelt | Jope: maybe I'm just hell of driver then? | 13:50 |
| Jope | sure | 13:50 |
| Scelt | a little like Kimi Räikkönen | 13:50 |
| Jope | it's a personal choice, you are free to do it | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | been looking at a Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 set, but so expensive :< | 13:51 |
| Jope | I believe kimi drives with fresh tyres every time :-) | 13:51 |
| Scelt | Jope: but much longer then others | 13:51 |
| Jope | :_) | 13:51 |
| ShadowJK | i don't want too much traction, the toe-in on my car is fucked, if there was grip it'd rock left and right going down the road | 13:51 |
| Jope | just pre-empt your driving. | 13:51 |
| Jope | ShadowJK, then you need to go to the garage to get the steering realigned :-) | 13:51 |
| Nicd- | ShadowJK: without traction you will be fucked | 13:51 |
| Scelt | Jope: I thought about buying new set but the few thousand km I drive in winter, I thought that they are okay | 13:51 |
| ShadowJK | Jope; they didn't have big enough hammer | 13:52 |
| Jope | scelt, the problem is, you aren't always in control of the situations | 13:52 |
| Jope | scelt, some joker comes behind the yield sign.. some animal jumps in front of oyu .. | 13:52 |
| Scelt | Jope: I know. "ennakoi - tiedät kyllä miksi" | 13:52 |
| Jope | yes | 13:52 |
| Nicd- | this discussion has now convinced me to get new tires | 13:52 |
| Nicd- | <_< | 13:52 |
| Jope | nicd, I'm happy about that | 13:52 |
| Scelt | me too! | 13:52 |
| Warnaud | :P | 13:52 |
| Jope | very often after these discussions people still consider their 10 year old winter tyres ok | 13:53 |
| Jope | to exaggerate a bit | 13:53 |
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| Scelt | Jope: tbh, you are right. I should buy new set but the truth is, no matter how good tyres you have, you still gotta drive gently on winter. winter is not summer, even with hell of a tyres | 13:53 |
| ShadowJK | That snowstorm that knocked out powergrid couple of weeks ago, almost needed new wintertyres going through that one.. Or more ground clearance so front of car doesn't snowplow as much | 13:53 |
| Jope | I remember one winter before I realised this I had some really dry winters on | 13:53 |
| * iekku doesn't know how old tyres are | 13:53 | |
| Jope | I couldn't get up the concrete ramp at work | 13:53 |
| Jope | I bought new tyres | 13:53 |
| Jope | and the same ramp posed no problems :-D | 13:53 |
| Jope | but hey, all studs were there + 5mm+ of surface left :-D | 13:54 |
| Nicd- | I didn't actually know they get bad so fast | 13:54 |
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| Scelt | Jope: but got a new set of hakka blues last year, they are awesome. so I know what's the diff between good and not-so-good tyres | 13:54 |
| Jope | scelt <3 | 13:55 |
| ShadowJK | I have 5mm surface left on summer tyres, but only when length is measured.. depth is gone ;D | 13:55 |
| ortylp | BTW: is it nokian or jolla channel...? | 13:55 |
| Jope | heheh | 13:55 |
| Jope | yeh, drifting a bit off topic :-D | 13:55 |
| Jope | but that's irc.. | 13:55 |
| iekku | Jope, reminds me about my previous car... | 13:55 |
| kimmoli | hop | 13:55 |
| Jope | although I guess we're on freenode where the normal rules don't apply :-) | 13:55 |
| * Jope puts on a straight face and desists. | 13:56 | |
| * iekku was a passanger when going from ramp to motorway | 13:56 | |
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| Nicd- | Jope: know if there's a big difference between hkpl 8 and 7 and maybe nordmans? | 13:57 |
| lainwir3d | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2umWBTCYAA5K22.jpg | 13:57 |
| lainwir3d | a crank ! | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | :D | 13:57 |
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| tadzik | :D | 13:57 |
| iekku | Jope, i had that "sport" bmw then and i'm pretty sure tyres weren't as good as my other half said they were | 13:57 |
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| kimmoli | yes, meritähti is open | 13:59 |
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| iekku | kimmoli, :D | 14:00 |
| kimmoli | anyone to join me and dirk? | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | might join in a few hours.. | 14:01 |
| iekku | kimmoli, if i were in helsinki i would definaely join | 14:01 |
| sec | https://twitter.com/mashant/status/534040974176305154 | 14:01 |
| entil | today's a nogo :( | 14:01 |
| entil | would be sweet to join tho | 14:01 |
| tadzik | sec: heh, looks interesting but I call bullshit | 14:04 |
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| phaeron | kimmoli: it is still open ? | 14:05 |
| kimmoli | we are here so yes | 14:07 |
| phaeron | kimmoli: interesting it was supposed to be closed | 14:08 |
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| iekku | phaeron, maybe there's new owner or something | 14:08 |
| kimmoli | dunno. hyperburgers should be renamed to "smartburgers" | 14:09 |
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| iekku | kimmoli, menu is same? | 14:10 |
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| entil | hard to imagine meritähti ever changing owners | 14:10 |
| Milo- | a burger shouldn't be smart. | 14:10 |
| kimmoli | looks same | 14:10 |
| entil | the hungarian guy who runs it imports spices or whatever that he sells beside food | 14:10 |
| Nicd- | "spices" | 14:11 |
| Scelt | spices you smoke | 14:11 |
| Nicd- | http://www.thelocal.se/20141118/six-in-hospital-after-gothenburg-spice-scare | 14:11 |
| Nicd- | looks like he visited gothenburg ;D | 14:11 |
| entil | traveling without moving | 14:11 |
| entil | tell me of your homeworld, usul | 14:11 |
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| Nicd- | the spice is vital for space travel | 14:12 |
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| Jope | spice extends consciousness | 14:13 |
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| Nicd- | expands* | 14:13 |
| Jope | you're right | 14:13 |
| entil | mmmm shaiiii-huluuuud | 14:13 |
| Jope | realized that after pressing thii entter key | 14:14 |
| * tbr walks without rhythm | 14:14 | |
| entil | wormsign the likes of which not even god has seen! | 14:14 |
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| iekku | :o | 14:16 |
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| entil | o: | 14:19 |
| Jope | ö | 14:19 |
| entil | .o. | 14:19 |
| entil | my god I'm bored | 14:19 |
| Jope | o | 14:19 |
| Jope | " | 14:19 |
| Jope | :-D | 14:19 |
| entil | D: | 14:19 |
| meklu | °O° | 14:20 |
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| covox | (╯°□°)╯ ︵ɐ||oɾ | 14:21 |
| entil | wtf :D | 14:22 |
| entil | oh, it says jolla | 14:22 |
| inz | In australian | 14:23 |
| entil | haha | 14:23 |
| covox | just turning it the right way up | 14:23 |
| AL13N_work | hahaha | 14:23 |
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| pdanek | ɐ||oɾ looks a bit like ellot | 14:29 |
| entil | not to be confused with elop | 14:29 |
| pdanek | :) | 14:29 |
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| * sledges gets popcorn for this development of new davinci codes :) | 14:32 | |
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| Jope | umop apisdn | 14:39 |
| Jope | I can do it with 7-bit ascii. | 14:39 |
| SK_work | :D | 14:39 |
| covox | the dot on the i is the wrong way | 14:40 |
| Jope | details, details :-D | 14:41 |
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| svuorela | bah. fedex. but nice exercise I got today. and now with a extra phone | 14:54 |
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| anYc | did anyone else experience little distortions of the voice during calls with their jolla? like there's something lying on the speaker. | 15:22 |
| anYc | volume is at <50% | 15:23 |
| Nicd- | then maybe you should start speaking the truth once in a while ;) | 15:23 |
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| Warnaud | NSA trying to distort non-compatible device (sorry joking - and no I didn't had experience this) | 15:24 |
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| mpthx | anYc: yes i did. not sure if its on my jolla or my girlfriends. lately dont use voice calls that much. but yes it is annoying and i hope its no tmine that is faulty | 15:28 |
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| Scelt | anYc: I just have problems with loud speaker | 15:30 |
| anYc | Nicd-: isn't "lying" also valid in this case? :) I'm not a native speaker | 15:35 |
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| anYc | mpthx Scelt: thank I guess I'll have to contact the support. My device is just a week old :/ | 15:35 |
| anYc | "thanks." | 15:35 |
| anYc | already made a reset of my n900 | 15:36 |
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| mcfrisk | repost: where to find working Skype apk for Jolla? Aptoide one doesn't work. | 15:37 |
| anYc | I did not test it but the amazon shop also has skype | 15:39 |
| stephg | mcfrisk: play? | 15:39 |
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| mcfrisk | play what? google play store? I need to install that? | 15:40 |
| stephg | poss | 15:40 |
| stephg | yeah | 15:40 |
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| mcfrisk | I'm not going to install google apps just to skype, that's silly. Unless skype apk really depends on them. | 15:42 |
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| stephg | I have no idea, don't use it | 15:45 |
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| mcfrisk | stephg: well, do you have better video and voice call apps then? | 15:47 |
| mcfrisk | and I used Skype on jolla for months, until service reflashed my device. | 15:47 |
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| * mcfrisk had to dig out N9 while traveling to do a cheap skype call... | 15:48 | |
| coderus | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skype.raider | 15:48 |
| coderus | http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.skype.raider | 15:48 |
| coderus | http://storage.evozi.com/apk/dl/14/10/12/com.skype.raider.apk?h=s7HqrfwpbAlMnZkVyBz50A&t=1416327434 | 15:49 |
| Scelt | mcfrisk: http://www.jollatides.com/2014/10/05/update-read-this-for-version-of-skype-working-on-sailfish/ | 15:49 |
| coderus | Scelt: latest Skype from Play Store works for me | 15:49 |
| coderus | latst BBM from Play Store not working on Jolla and i'll be happy if you can find working one ;) | 15:50 |
| mcfrisk | yyh what warez popup crap | 15:51 |
| mcfrisk | coderus: managed to install that apk and test call worked until UI froze to death but maybe that's the best there is atm | 15:58 |
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| coderus | mcfrisk: popup? i see no popups. i'm using adblock. | 16:00 |
| svuorela | are there a howto on migrating data from a jolla phone to a jolla phone ? | 16:01 |
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| SK_work | svuorela: scp everything ? | 16:01 |
| SK_work | :) | 16:01 |
| svuorela | SK_work: is it a random idea, or something you tested ? | 16:02 |
| SK_work | svuorela: take a backup, copy it, and extract backup ? | 16:02 |
| SK_work | svuorela: not tested but why won't it work | 16:02 |
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| SK_work | beware, there are permissions stuff | 16:02 |
| SK_work | like the privlegecd stuff | 16:02 |
| pp_ | yea + backups won't cover android game saves etc. | 16:02 |
| pp_ | (nor the apps themselves I think) | 16:02 |
| Nicd- | anYc: it is, I was only joking :) | 16:04 |
| mcfrisk | Scelt: that link from coderus is to version 5.0.0.52727 which seems to work, few crashes so far but I guess that's normal, and complaints about some myriad service or something. | 16:05 |
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| mcfrisk | hmm, html5test.com on jolla renders really laggy when scrolling down. Is the page doing something weird with scripting to trigger constant redraws or something? | 16:13 |
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| mcfrisk | uhm, and jolla browser fails to search for impress.js and instead wants to open www.impress.js, sigh | 16:15 |
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| Tegu | mcfrisk: yea, happens when you try to search something with a dot in it. as a workaround, just add a space and some other word after it. or something like "impress.js ." seems to work | 16:26 |
| mcfrisk | Tegu: yep, that's what I did | 16:31 |
| Tegu | but usually only after the first try, though :D | 16:32 |
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| mcfrisk | is compiling jolla browser simple? Has anyone tried enabling webrtc features which are reported missing in https://together.jolla.com/question/9514/support-webrtc-in-native-web-browser/ and which Jolla may not be able to enable due patent thread from Nokia/MS, sigh | 16:32 |
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| Tegu | patents... :\ at least sometimes | 16:34 |
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| ryukafalz | Is there anywhere I can attempt to log into my jolla account from a browser? I think I've forgotten my password, heh | 16:48 |
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| svuorela | hmm... account backup/restore doesn't restore jolla account password | 16:49 |
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| mcfrisk | svuorela: use rsync to copy /home/nemo as backup to somewhere, and restore in similar way, settings/backup isn't really a backup in the usual sysadmin sense | 16:50 |
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| nbg | hi. I have already set 'silence sounds', but when I run the media app, the sound is audible through the speakers. Is there a way to silence the speaker when running the media app, without silencing the alarm clock? | 19:33 |
| nbg | I want to avoid sounds when, for example, the headphones disconnect accidentally. | 19:34 |
| sledges | when headphones disconnect, mediaplayer pauses | 19:35 |
| nbg | aah, I should have tried it first. that solves it then, thank you. | 19:37 |
| sledges | welcome | 19:37 |
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| * DrainBamaged waves to the sledges \o | 19:39 | |
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| * sledges performs a routine wave to DrainBamaged o/ | 19:42 | |
| sledges | :D | 19:42 |
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| sledges | DrainBamaged: excited about tomorrow? ;P | 19:43 |
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| DrainBamaged | TOHKBD? | 19:43 |
| sledges | wOOt? | 19:43 |
| sledges | ;) | 19:43 |
| sledges | that too, but that's old news :) | 19:43 |
| DrainBamaged | wOOt? | 19:44 |
| DrainBamaged | Idk, telll me what happens tomorrow? | 19:44 |
| sledges | DrainBamaged: Jolla will announce something for your car: https://twitter.com/YvesPE/status/534703884078686208 | 19:44 |
| sledges | I know how much you are into automotiveness, so it's just right! | 19:45 |
| DrainBamaged | lol, brilliant | 19:45 |
| sledges | agreed :)) | 19:45 |
| sledges | how's life anyhoo? | 19:45 |
| DrainBamaged | Good, got xbox one but it failed | 19:46 |
| sledges | happy for you | 19:46 |
| sledges | :D | 19:46 |
| sledges | you got your life back ;) | 19:46 |
| DrainBamaged | lol | 19:47 |
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| dunp | https://twitter.com/YvesPE/status/534703884078686208 crank from old T-ford like http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/100118.jpg ?? | 19:58 |
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| raa700_ | dynamo toh | 20:05 |
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| entil | o_O https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/ | 20:16 |
| entil | that's so weird | 20:17 |
| Nicd- | will probably break mitäkuuluu completely? | 20:17 |
| entil | mitäkuuluu is dead already | 20:17 |
| entil | (it's no use captain) | 20:17 |
| entil | because whatsapp's blocking 3rd party clients | 20:17 |
| Nicd- | I haven't been banned yet | 20:18 |
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| Nicd- | still using it | 20:18 |
| entil | but yeah, that might or might not make things worse | 20:18 |
| entil | whoah | 20:18 |
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| entil | anyway, coderus ceased development, so chances are you'll be blocked eventually | 20:18 |
| entil | the weird thing is still that whisper's working with the competitor to make them better in the competition | 20:18 |
| entil | guess they need the money and pr | 20:19 |
| entil | also "the textsecure encryption protocol", wonder if messages could be relayed between textsecure and whatsapp | 20:19 |
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| coderus | of course no :D | 20:21 |
| coderus | what a dumb speculation :D | 20:22 |
| entil | 1) start cooperating 2) set up message relays 3) done ;P | 20:22 |
| entil | but yeah, it's unlikely | 20:22 |
| coderus | whatsapp just using curve + libaloxotl for text encrypt/decrypt/exchanging keys | 20:23 |
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| entil | the new version? | 20:25 |
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| entil | tbh I lost pretty much all interest in it after the blocks, but the ceo donating to freebsd and the news about encyrption is kind of interesting after all else | 20:25 |
| Teemu | worgahborgah | 20:26 |
| coderus | entil: the new versoin what? | 20:26 |
| dunp | viber for jolla? | 20:27 |
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| entil | coderus: "The most recent WhatsApp Android client release includes support for the TextSecure encryption protocol, and billions of encrypted messages are being exchanged daily." -- https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/ | 20:27 |
| Teemu | who what donate? | 20:28 |
| coderus | entil: so? what is your question means? | 20:28 |
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| entil | coderus: was your comment about what whatsapp's currently doing with whisper system's work | 20:29 |
| entil | Teemu: yeah, start a kickstarter project for funding a textsecure client for sailfish | 20:29 |
| coderus | entil: whatsapp added whispersystems encryption months ago :D | 20:29 |
| coderus | just started enabling it weeks ago | 20:30 |
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| Teemu | i'm not interested in whatsthat, but the freebsd part triggered me | 20:30 |
| Teemu | so what's that about? | 20:30 |
| entil | coderus: oh, there's actually no date on the blog, but now that the link got around, I assumed it was recent news... my bad | 20:30 |
| entil | coderus: is that related to the death of mitakuuluu? | 20:31 |
| coderus | entil: no | 20:31 |
| entil | cool | 20:31 |
| entil | teemu: the ceo doing charity big time | 20:31 |
| Teemu | isn't whatsapp kind of like you know irc for dumb people? | 20:31 |
| Teemu | entil: url | 20:31 |
| entil | Teemu: can't be arsed to google now, in dire need of sleep | 20:32 |
| Teemu | :) | 20:32 |
| Teemu | np | 20:32 |
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| Teemu | you're still at slush? | 20:32 |
| entil | and whatsapp's closer to sms and mms than irc :P | 20:32 |
| entil | didn't attend slush | 20:32 |
| Teemu | i'm a bit surprised really | 20:32 |
| entil | dunno, it's funny to say a corporate event gets too corporate, but I'm kinda sure I wouldn't enjoy it as much as in year two of it :D | 20:33 |
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| Teemu | i remember you being involved in the early years somehow | 20:34 |
| Teemu | oh btw i got new shiny tools today, a soldering smoke cleaner and at last i got to see the ell-i/helsinkihacklab new metcal soldering iron | 20:34 |
| entil | sure, had a brave new startup idea and all, tried to get the slush seven money (jonnet ei muista) and talked to a company called magnifier or something (probably defunct by now) about funding, nothing worked out | 20:34 |
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| entil | but that's closer to hipsterism, cuz no one cares about the origins of slush anymore, now that you have politicians briefly attend the circle jerk for a quick wank | 20:35 |
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| Teemu | some time ago i got a new idea too but we decidecly made it so that there is no possibility of an exit plan so vulture capitalists are by definition uninterested | 20:36 |
| Teemu | i bet the top kokoomus young brass was there | 20:36 |
| Teemu | of course only shortly because Important People do not attend, they just visit | 20:36 |
| entil | I think the kind of VC scene that caused the term vulture capitalist is pretty much dead by now | 20:36 |
| Teemu | dunno | 20:36 |
| Teemu | anyway the thing is, our idea was too generic to risk it falling among just one startup, of which 90% fall naturally | 20:37 |
| entil | maybe someone wants to invest big-ish for insane stock and replace half your board, as they did 15 years ago, but I'd imagine investors to have gained a clue that it's not a good idea to vulture up the company | 20:37 |
| entil | sure | 20:37 |
| Teemu | so we took a look in how open source software works and modeled our plan according to that | 20:37 |
| Teemu | following the foundation/corporate in finnish climate leaded to cooperative/corporate model and we're approaching the part where some commercial entities might actually start using the tech | 20:38 |
| entil | I spent huge parts of yesterday and today unfucking open-source abandonware, but I trust you'd not look at dead pull requests on github and plan your business by that :D | 20:38 |
| entil | 278 forks on github, yay for the working model | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | entil: that sounds like what we do every day in jolla.. :P | 20:39 |
| entil | Stskeeps: I feel your pain bro | 20:39 |
| Teemu | from what i've heard, the vultures still like to replace your board and basically outbuy the founders locking them in with golden chains "until they have transferred the undocumented THING" | 20:39 |
| entil | Stskeeps: didn't know you touch abandonware tho ;P | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | entil: well, some of the meego stuff is rather muldy at times. | 20:40 |
| entil | haha, libcommhistory flashbacks from the bar :D yeah... stuff like that happens and it sucks it does | 20:40 |
| entil | I'd kinda make the claim some of those repos are different from, say, dead django apps in the sense that there probably aren't hundreds of forks of meego components | 20:41 |
| Teemu | i remember trying n770 my father had as he was inside nokia at the time | 20:41 |
| entil | Teemu: cool seeing you here, even undercover with that nick ;) | 20:41 |
| Teemu | :) | 20:41 |
| entil | I need to sleep, big time | 20:41 |
| entil | gnight -> | 20:42 |
| Teemu | we need to get a beer sometime | 20:42 |
| Teemu | night | 20:42 |
| entil | yes :) and yeah -> | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | they didn't want to sell me a beer in the shop after i came back from work after 9pm. | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | what is this country's problem? | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:42 |
| Ezko_ | päivi räsänen | 20:42 |
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| Teemu | i remember telling my father that the device needs a keybored and it NEEDS to have a real datamodem as wifi was not a very viable option at the time | 20:42 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly who Teemu's father is | 20:43 | |
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| Teemu | he wasn't part of any maemo team but somehow got his hands into several interesting to-be-possible-models | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 20:44 |
| Teemu | i'm not sure if he was situated somewhere in japan or possibly beijing at the time | 20:44 |
| Teemu | most likely japan | 20:44 |
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| Acce | there was that nokia luxus unit in Tokyo at a time | 21:16 |
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| xkr47 | I wonder if the device at the top of the jolla.com has something to do with "something BIG" | 21:51 |
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| M4rtinK | kitchen table ? :) | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/21/exopcs-40-inch-multitouch-exodesk-is-coming-in-2012-for-1-299/ <- want | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:55 |
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| xkr47 | M4rtinK kitchen tableT :D | 21:58 |
| Teemu | will it blend? | 21:58 |
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| ahjolinna | It has been confirmed Nokia N1 has a unlocked bootloader! http://mynokiablog.com/2014/11/18/nokia-n1-to-get-unlocked-bootloader-for-stock-android-5-0-lollipop-and-more/ | 22:01 |
| ortylp | something big would be SailfishOS for Galaxy Note Pro... | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | ahjolinna: i believe that when i see it. | 22:02 |
| M4rtinK | note that it has our old friend PowerVR as GPU | 22:04 |
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| M4rtinK | so good luck with drivers :P | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | powervr is not really that terribly different than all the other gpu crap around atm :P | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | i know for a fact libhybris works with it | 22:05 |
| ortylp | N1 looks nice, but there are NO HW specs anywhere to find on then Nokia site... | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't there quite a few? | 22:07 |
| Scelt | less than 11 hours guys! | 22:07 |
| ortylp | I just want SailfishOS on my Note Pro... | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | ortylp: N1 specs: http://pastie.org/9728793 | 22:07 |
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| Scelt | Stskeeps: are you keen to know what jolla will announce?! | 22:08 |
| Scelt | oh, wait... | 22:08 |
| Scelt | :P | 22:08 |
| Stskeeps | Scelt: i -so- look forward to a day of booth duty! | 22:08 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: well, yeah - but still there is was the Paulsbo disaster, adding some additional hurt to the overall mess :) | 22:08 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: also the many other mobile GPUs have at least _some_ open driver effort going (Mali/Lima, adreno/Freedreno, Vivante, Tegra/Noveau) | 22:10 |
| ortylp | OK, these specs look nice, including screen resolution, the only drawback it is 8" instead of 13" | 22:10 |
| ortylp | and RAM with 2GB... is a bit low... | 22:10 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: while I don't know about anything going on for PowerVR at all in this regard | 22:10 |
| ortylp | what was the trick to convince connman, that the WIFI connection has working access to thhe Internet? | 22:13 |
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| ortylp | I am using WiFi in a hotel, no registration, no password needed, Android works, almost all apps work, SailfishOS apps mostly don't | 22:15 |
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| xkr47 | ahjolinna.. "confirmed" vs "plan on shipping" | 22:17 |
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| _inte_ | hello | 22:19 |
| _inte_ | good evening | 22:19 |
| _inte_ | there was an announcement for an encrypted messenger which was supposed to be released on jolla first | 22:20 |
| xkr47 | hello! | 22:20 |
| _inte_ | unfortunately, i forgot the name and i cant find it through google | 22:20 |
| _inte_ | does anyone remember? | 22:20 |
| M4rtinK | Tox ? | 22:21 |
| _inte_ | nopd | 22:21 |
| _inte_ | nope | 22:21 |
| _inte_ | i knos tox | 22:21 |
| _inte_ | it was somewhat similar | 22:21 |
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| _inte_ | i guess it was even developed by someone related to jolla | 22:22 |
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| _inte_ | ah, finally | 22:27 |
| _inte_ | ricochet | 22:27 |
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| _inte_ | there is obviously no progress with the jolla version | 22:29 |
| _inte_ | https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/releases | 22:29 |
| _inte_ | however, now I know where I will have to look for it | 22:30 |
| ortylp | Stskeeps: daj znać jeżeli jesteś w piątek wieczorem w okolicach Wa-wy i masz ochotę na piwo lub inne napoje ;) | 22:31 |
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| ar | The website is down? | 22:35 |
| ar | oh, it "just" takes an ungodly ammount of time to respond | 22:35 |
| ar | oh, not anymore | 22:35 |
| M4rtinK | _inte_: oh, right, now I remember! | 22:37 |
| M4rtinK | _inte_: I must have mixed it up with Tox for some reason | 22:37 |
| _inte_ | yeah I guess its somewhat similar anyways | 22:38 |
| _inte_ | at least both may use TOR | 22:38 |
| _inte_ | ar? | 22:39 |
| _inte_ | talking to me? | 22:39 |
| ar | _inte_: hm? | 22:39 |
| _inte_ | well probably not then :) | 22:40 |
| ar | i just had the website respond in ungodly slow matter: http://dpaste.com/2J3026F | 22:40 |
| ar | but it works now | 22:40 |
| _inte_ | oh yes | 22:41 |
| _inte_ | working normal forme | 22:41 |
| _inte_ | but there is a timer on it | 22:41 |
| _inte_ | when did that get there? | 22:41 |
| _inte_ | looks like i need to get back there tomorrow :) | 22:42 |
| _inte_ | jolla2 in the makings? | 22:42 |
| _inte_ | did anyone manage to figure out the new product page already? :) | 22:48 |
| _inte_ | Given it is online | 22:49 |
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| _inte_ | ok | 22:54 |
| _inte_ | no one likes to guess? | 22:54 |
| _inte_ | then I have a nice guess... | 22:54 |
| lpotter | chocolate | 22:54 |
| _inte_ | What is that page for? | 22:54 |
| _inte_ | http://jolla.com/toh/ | 22:54 |
| _inte_ | It is somehow there but doesnt show any conclusive content | 22:55 |
| _inte_ | so tomorrow we will learn about a jolla... | 22:55 |
| _inte_ | streaming app? | 22:55 |
| _inte_ | streaming service? | 22:56 |
| _inte_ | speaker toh? | 22:56 |
| _inte_ | ... | 22:56 |
| lpotter | chocolate bar | 22:56 |
| lpotter | with extra caffeine | 22:56 |
| TemeV | _inte_: read it all in here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94157 | 22:56 |
| sledges | lpotter: _inte_: certainly! https://twitter.com/YvesPE/status/533970371028844545 | 22:58 |
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| lpotter | thats my fav. I hope its that | 22:59 |
| _inte_ | chocolate?? | 22:59 |
| sledges | yes | 22:59 |
| _inte_ | I didnt read every comment at tmo but did anyone else figure out jolla.com/toh/ before? | 23:00 |
| lpotter | what I really need is a Jolla Electric SmartCar | 23:00 |
| lpotter | station wagon | 23:00 |
| sledges | that crank will be part of its IVI for sure | 23:01 |
| sledges | to confuse _inte_even more: https://twitter.com/YvesPE/status/534703884078686208 | 23:01 |
| lpotter | ha! I didnt see that one | 23:02 |
| lpotter | thats for the crank-up battery charger TOH | 23:03 |
| _inte_ | hehe:) | 23:03 |
| _inte_ | maybe they will come up with a Jolla series of the new Nokia tablet :-P | 23:03 |
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| _inte_ | ok the image shown at toh is uploaded on 2014/5 | 23:06 |
| _inte_ | https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/toh.png | 23:06 |
| _inte_ | it barely has anything to do with the new jolla device (or software) | 23:06 |
| _inte_ | maybe its a handy reader which can easily store the entire wikipedia | 23:07 |
| _inte_ | they could call it wikireader | 23:07 |
| _inte_ | that would be something really cool | 23:07 |
| raa700_ | jolla qipad and qitoh with full nfc functionality | 23:07 |
| _inte_ | yeah | 23:08 |
| TemeV | ooh, my telegram app is logging in, fetching contacts and messages correctly \o/ | 23:08 |
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| TemeV | I should go to bed already, but this is too interesting :) | 23:10 |
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| sledges | _inte_: you just threw me back a good few years! https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=openmoko%20wikireader&source=lnms&tbm=isch | 23:18 |
| _inte_ | :) | 23:18 |
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| M4rtinK | sledges: I wonder where the OpenMoko people are now :) | 23:27 |
| M4rtinK | the only ones I know about that were related to it are Joerg & Goldelico | 23:28 |
| * sledges opens up openmoko wiki history to refresh mem :) | 23:29 | |
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| M4rtinK | I still have a Neo FreeRunner safely in a drawer :) | 23:29 |
| sledges | i have 2 | 23:29 |
| sledges | :)) | 23:29 |
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| sledges | enough to boil an egg? | 23:38 |
| * lpotter has phones running os's they weren't supposed to | 23:38 | |
| sledges | ..what brought us all together | 23:38 |
| lpotter | :) | 23:39 |
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| stephg | good evening everyone | 23:58 |
| * stephg is happy, has cheese | 23:58 | |
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