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| mornfall | just4info: it's not “tax free” it's just how VAT works... as a business, you are paying vat received minus vat paid to the state, so when you buy stuff that ends up on the vat paid side | 08:36 |
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| mornfall | just4info: still, any money you make by using that thing you got “tax free” is subject to vat (that's the added value from the name) | 08:37 |
| Teemu | it is grown in large moldy vats | 08:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | nice, new layout was merged with master branch of sailfish browser! | 08:58 |
| Morpog_PC | looks like we get it with update11 | 08:58 |
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| Armadillo | Morpog_PC which new layout? | 09:54 |
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| ahjolinna | Armadillo: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commit/256f87813f534cf6d3edbf6c7d0f2f818368d0b6 | 10:05 |
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| gogeta | for | 10:31 |
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| Armadillo | ahjolinna thanks | 10:34 |
| Armadillo | the new layout rocks :) | 10:35 |
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| TemeV | I tried to compile that just for the fun of it, but it gives me "error: 'class DeclarativeWebPage' has no member named 'background'" | 11:14 |
| TemeV | sailfish-browser I mean | 11:14 |
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| coderus | you need new qtmozembed devel package obliviously | 11:24 |
| coderus | sailfish-browser is just gui | 11:24 |
| coderus | everything in qtmozembed and embedlite-components | 11:25 |
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| TemeV | well, it would have been too easy if it was just download and hit build :) | 11:26 |
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| coderus | it would have been much better if you would know what are you doing | 11:27 |
| TemeV | most definitely | 11:28 |
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| kimmoli | where is the fun then? | 11:40 |
| coderus | fun? | 11:41 |
| coderus | you have not enough of fun already? | 11:41 |
| kimmoli | i have ... | 11:41 |
| kimmoli | i definetily dont know what i'm doing | 11:42 |
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| coderus | ah :) | 11:44 |
| coderus | me too :D | 11:44 |
| coderus | implemented upnp ssdp multicast search and i have no idea how it working :D | 11:44 |
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| kimmoli | i'm shopping with my mom and my daughter... there is luckily no places to jump | 11:47 |
| Morpog_PC | CoderCandy what do you need? | 11:51 |
| Morpog_PC | errrr | 11:51 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, | 11:51 |
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| marinaio | https://twitter.com/TMavica/status/533912440895848448 | 11:53 |
| Morpog_PC | on TMP he says he even knows the price already | 11:53 |
| Morpog_PC | TMO | 11:53 |
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| sec | Well possibly, I doubt it's another phone. They may be releasing a tablet as a capability showcase - but why I don't understand - they could've just as well used a Nexus 7/9. | 11:55 |
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| Morpog_PC | google would sue the hell out of them :D | 11:59 |
| sec | Why? | 12:00 |
| marinaio | sec: afaik tablet sales are declining. Releasing a phablet would make more sense | 12:00 |
| Morpog_PC | how should they sell that? pre insatleld? | 12:00 |
| Morpog_PC | installed | 12:00 |
| sec | No, I am talking about capability, not sales | 12:01 |
| CoderCandy | Morpog_PC: hmm? | 12:03 |
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| Morpog_PC | sorry CoderCandy wanted to ping coderus | 12:03 |
| CoderCandy | aaah | 12:03 |
| Morpog_PC | autocomplete fail | 12:03 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: i need icons for my LG webOS Smart TV remote app :) | 12:10 |
| coderus | launcher icon first | 12:10 |
| coderus | for UI i'll ping you if system lack of some icons i need :) | 12:11 |
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| PeperJohnny | I think they would release an own tablet because of licence issues with android compability | 12:15 |
| PeperJohnny | at least the answers are always licence, if you ask why there's no android support on nexus ports | 12:16 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/harbour-webosremotewjsv8.png | 12:18 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus | 12:18 |
| Morpog_PC | color is drom webos mouse pointer :D | 12:18 |
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| clau | What happened to jolla.com? There is a big ass counter there. | 12:39 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: looks good :) | 12:39 |
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| TemeV | clau: "Something BIG is about to begin" as it says in jolla.com | 12:40 |
| clau | hmm, is jolla launching a tablet? | 12:40 |
| clau | the picture in the background does look like a new device. | 12:40 |
| TemeV | we will know in 2 days, 20 hours, 19 minutes and 15 seconds | 12:40 |
| clau | k, I bet on tablet. | 12:41 |
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| clau | :) | 12:41 |
| TemeV | Tablet seems to be most popular guess all around the internet | 12:41 |
| kimmoli | i will irc and tweet as soon as i know what it is, as it seems to get announced at slush | 12:41 |
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| Morpog_PC | clau, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94157 | 12:43 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, you need the SVG too? | 12:43 |
| Morpog_PC | future icons need to be in SVG it seems | 12:44 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: no i dont need svg, thanks :) | 12:44 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: ah, i need cover image | 12:44 |
| Morpog_PC | for scalability | 12:44 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: ok send it, i'll save for future :) | 12:44 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/venclnol8vj41qd/AACYNW-rPM1KZWzS-aBAbe8aa?dl=0 | 12:51 |
| Morpog_PC | cover also done | 12:52 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: can you add pointer shape to cover to understand what it does? | 12:54 |
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| Morpog_PC | sure | 12:55 |
| pdanek | Any of you Sailors already tried Lollipop? | 12:58 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, added cover2 in the dropbox folder | 13:04 |
| coderus | thanks! | 13:05 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: em, opposite please :D | 13:06 |
| coderus | cursor shape inside TV | 13:06 |
| coderus | it will be better imho :) | 13:06 |
| coderus | :D | 13:06 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, cover3 uploaded | 13:27 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: thanks! | 13:32 |
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| Morpog_PC | ahaha, @YvesPE revealed the big Jolla thing: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2kLOLfCEAEB607.jpg | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'd buy that | 13:52 |
| Morpog_PC | :D looks delicious | 13:52 |
| TemeV | the big thing is that Jolla will move to coffee industry? | 13:53 |
| TemeV | coffee maker with SailfisOS? | 13:53 |
| TemeV | Or maybe there is hidden message in the foam | 13:54 |
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| cryorat | TemeV, another conspiration theory? :) | 13:55 |
| sec | I'd buy that | 13:55 |
| TemeV | I just like making up rumors | 13:56 |
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| attah | TemeV: But will it speak HTCPCP? | 14:04 |
| ggabriel | i think it will just be a spare battery | 14:06 |
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| sec | Well that is a BIG step imo | 14:07 |
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| TemeV | attah: well, I think it should as well as every other main stream coffee maker OS | 14:12 |
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| attah | :) | 14:15 |
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| ggabriel | i'll have to make myself a coffee now | 14:18 |
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| pcfe | question on warehouse and building; I currently build a package on build.merproject.org, should I continue doing so when making an entry on openrepos.net for easier installation via warehouse and, if yes, is there a way to link new builds (if ever necessary) automatically? | 16:04 |
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| cb400f | pcfe: I think you should ask those type of questions in #sailfishos | 16:21 |
| pcfe | cb400f: OK, thanks | 16:22 |
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| kaol | Hi. How do I change the jolla account on the phone? I had forgot that I had already created an account when I preordered and I created another when I turned the phone on. | 17:35 |
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| kaol | Never mind, I found how. | 17:37 |
| Tegu | kaol: hi. I don't have another account so I cannot try, but .. oki | 17:37 |
| kaol | There was a delete account option on the pull down menu. | 17:37 |
| Tegu | there was also an "update login" or whatever it is in english version | 17:38 |
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| kaol | Hm. Pretty confusing, so far. | 17:49 |
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| Stskeeps | i have to ask .. https://twitter.com/n9mx/status/533969680734494720 -- is that a lot of people falling from the sky? | 18:21 |
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| FireFly | Looks like so | 18:34 |
| * pahartik would like "Jolla Mobile" to stay connected at all times when mobile network is reachable | 18:34 | |
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| Stskeeps | pahartik: well, the logic of that is fully oss.. | 18:35 |
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| pahartik | Stskeeps: 'while sleep 30 ; do ( /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl state | egrep --quiet "State = (online)|(ready)" ) || ( date --iso-8601=seconds ; /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl connect cellular_[...]_context1 ) ; done' used to help | 18:51 |
| ShadowJK | "sleep" only works with screen on | 18:52 |
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| tbr | yeah, 1s sleep can quickly turn into 5min | 19:01 |
| pahartik | tbr: Acknowledged | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: starting process of making the source dump now.. | 19:02 |
| kimmoli | tbr: now someone needs to make iphpsleep for cli ? | 19:02 |
| tbr | you need something that speaks IPHB | 19:03 |
| tbr | kimmoli: that shouldn't be hard now. :) | 19:03 |
| kimmoli | no | 19:03 |
| * tbr might look into it tomorrow | 19:03 | |
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| * pahartik has IPv6 tunnel and SSH port forwarding for IRC, should just work 24/7 | 19:12 | |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: http://monster.tspre.org/~carsten/diff.txt seems about right? | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | from previous release | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | i added the sdk bits as well for fun and profit | 19:17 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: noticed vbox, guessed that. :) | 19:18 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: v8 is gone? or was that folded into the qt tree or sthg like that? | 19:18 |
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| attah | Stskeeps: I notice qtdocgallery in there... any idea on when/if it might be ok:ed for harbour? (or who to poke) | 19:20 |
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| tbr | a net decrease in number of Qt packages is surprising, but then I don't know much about packaging differences between 5.0 and 5.2 (or which versions those were) | 19:20 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: pacrunner was the one using it | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: qtjsbackend is no longer in use at least | 19:22 |
| tbr | ah, ok | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok, source checkout in progress.. | 19:22 |
| tbr | \o/ | 19:22 |
| tbr | if someone finds something missing we can always fix it up | 19:23 |
| phaeron | tbr pacrunner was switched to use cutejs which uses the qt v4 engine | 19:24 |
| phaeron | tbr cutejs is written by deztructor | 19:25 |
| tbr | phaeron: thanks for the details <3 | 19:25 |
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| attah | I started playing a little with connmanctl.. does anyone know why the "session" option doesn't work? | 19:33 |
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| attah | okay.. it does work.. just fails with a bad msg when you give incorrect input to it | 19:40 |
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| pdanek | Nokia is going to show big news. | 23:25 |
| pdanek | Jolla is going to show big news. | 23:25 |
| pdanek | Maybe there is something in it? | 23:26 |
| pdanek | Nokia producing Sailfish smartphones? :) | 23:26 |
| pdanek | Or not. | 23:26 |
| fennekki | Nokia purchases Jolla, turns it into their new mobile phone department | 23:27 |
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| silver_hook | pdanek: Where did you get the Nokia big news from? | 23:31 |
| Teemu | nokia is ms now | 23:32 |
| Teemu | ms always has something interesting just behind the corner whenever somebody has just announced something | 23:32 |
| Teemu | like pen computing, the original company showcased it and weeks later big ms announces big time hoorah that ms is investing in computers operable with pens | 23:33 |
| ln- | nokia is nokia, ms is not nokia anymore | 23:33 |
| silver_hook | Right, they just opened up .NET …so that could be it :p | 23:33 |
| silver_hook | well, most of .NET | 23:34 |
| Teemu | everybody stopped investing in the pen computing company because ms is going to outdo them anyway | 23:34 |
| silver_hook | Here is Nokia | 23:34 |
| Teemu | pen goes bankrupt | 23:34 |
| Teemu | ms buys pen | 23:34 |
| Teemu | some time later ms announces pen computing that suspiciously looks exactly like the pen company solution did | 23:34 |
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| silver_hook | Teemu: Yea …but still, where’s the „Nokia big news” link? | 23:36 |
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| Teemu | dunno | 23:37 |
| silver_hook | pdanek: ? | 23:37 |
| Teemu | i should be sleeping | 23:37 |
| Teemu | o/ | 23:37 |
| silver_hook | ,o/ | 23:37 |
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