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| entil | coderus: around? I hear that more people have been blocked by whatsapp, even though their clients have been up to date.. what's the status? :S | 09:08 |
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| entil | I got a reply from their support that I'm using an unauthorized client, I must contact them again from a supported client and they will not follow up on my email :/ | 09:09 |
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| kimmoli | kjokinie: could toh_cfg_show (in toh.c) return config_data so that it doesn't end to null-data? now it uses snprintf() and if eeprom has 00 it will break. (i tought this is binary data, but now it is a string) | 09:18 |
| coderus | entil: always here :) | 09:22 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278 | 09:22 |
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| entil | coderus: it's a bit scary ;P | 09:24 |
| entil | coderus: they probably changed the protocol again just to stay ahead | 09:26 |
| entil | coderus: how do you know when the protocol changes? | 09:26 |
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| Yaniel | coderus: care to fix the title of that issue? it's missing a get/got | 09:31 |
| entil | hehe, I didn't even pick up on that | 09:31 |
| entil | posted a comment on the issue | 09:32 |
| coderus | entil: its not scary | 09:33 |
| coderus | just install K-9 | 09:33 |
| coderus | and send email from android application | 09:33 |
| entil | coderus: the scary part is that someone got blocked with the latest version.. how is that possible? | 09:33 |
| coderus | entil: i always have latest android apk hacked :) | 09:34 |
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| entil | sweet ;) | 09:34 |
| coderus | entil: i just had not enough time to keep it up-to date | 09:34 |
| entil | coderus: sure, but did the protocol change after 0.8.15 again? see claralap's comment on github | 09:34 |
| coderus | entil: no, i just didnt fixed it properly in mitakuuluu | 09:36 |
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| entil | coderus: but is 0.8.15-4 a proper fix and claralap using an old version? | 09:37 |
| r0kk3rz | needs to go through the usual pattern first | 09:38 |
| r0kk3rz | fix, proper fix, really proper fix, really really fixed this time | 09:39 |
| entil | I'm just asking about whether or not the latest released whatsapp is "really really fixed this time" :P | 09:39 |
| entil | s/whatsapp/mitakuuluu/ sorry! | 09:39 |
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| coderus | entil: well, i never was banned myself | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | i never got banned either | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | I haven't been banned yet either | 09:42 |
| entil | coderus: so you just avoided the protocol calls that you didn't fix properly the first time? | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | so I'm not gonna touch my mitäkuuluu :D | 09:43 |
| coderus | currently i'm working on N9 whatsapp cclient | 09:43 |
| coderus | if i'll receive more blocking reports on 0.8.15 i'll just remove it from openrepos again, for a while | 09:43 |
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| entil | coderus: or do you not know what you didn't implement properly? | 09:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | only time will tell entil | 09:50 |
| entil | r0kk3rz: do you represent the entire guild in this matter? :P | 09:51 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 09:51 |
| Shinryuu | mhh, android apps refuses to start what kind of sorcery is this? | 09:53 |
| tadzik | they do that sometimes | 09:54 |
| coderus | entil: in mitakuuluu - currently not | 09:54 |
| entil | Shinryuu: it is the weirding way | 09:54 |
| tadzik | they also started acting funny to me in the opt-in update | 09:54 |
| coderus | didnt checked its code for a while | 09:54 |
| tadzik | still, no regrets | 09:54 |
| entil | coderus: ok, thanks | 09:54 |
| Shinryuu | hehe | 09:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder how well the jolla fire sale went | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | i mean, the 100e discount | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Operation_Upshot-Knothole_-_Badger_001.jpg ? | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | no clue though, not in sales | 11:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah fair enough | 11:56 |
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| tadzik | is it over already? | 12:27 |
| tadzik | or works until today included | 12:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | no idea | 12:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but its about to be over | 12:29 |
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| flux | funny how everything but keira black toh, aloe toh and the phone is out of stock in the jolla store | 12:37 |
| tadzik | is there anything else? :D | 12:37 |
| flux | good point, but there are at least some lastu cases and protective films | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | black is fairly boring | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | and aloe is probably the least favoured colour since they're giving it away in the 100e discount deal | 12:38 |
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| tadzik | ya | 12:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | does make you wonder whether demand has outstripped supply, or something else is going on | 12:45 |
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| krnlyng | hi, what does it mean if the led is light blue and blinking? (it's not blue as in sms/im notification) also i cannot wake it up neither via doubletap nor the power button. i am logged in via ssh and i can execute commands just fine | 12:52 |
| r0kk3rz | waylands crashed i think | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | or lipstick | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | normally it flashes quickly then lipstick restarts | 12:54 |
| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/30230/wiki-meanings-of-notification-led-blink-codes/ | 12:54 |
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| krnlyng | coderus: yeah i saw that, but it didn't say what light blue + blining means | 12:59 |
| Bawal | i think sometimes the light goes a bit wild, as in it blends the colors of multiple notifications | 13:02 |
| Bawal | you know, if you get both a sms and an unanswered call, sometimes the light is neither green or blue | 13:02 |
| Bawal | but something in between | 13:02 |
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| gogeta | jolla store give out an error | 13:05 |
| gogeta | who can help me | 13:05 |
| gogeta | fine | 13:07 |
| gogeta | cybette, someone used my discount code | 13:07 |
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| coderus | krnlyng: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8788774 | 13:18 |
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| Shinryuu | can't figure out why android apps stopped working on uitukka, I tried to remove android support and cache files etc. but no success yet | 15:45 |
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| TMavica | start the service | 15:46 |
| Shinryuu | aliendalvik.service? it's up and running according to systemctl | 15:48 |
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| coderus | Shinryuu: check journal | 17:00 |
| Shinryuu | will do | 17:00 |
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| Kabouik_ | Does anyone know where gPodder stores the downloaded podcasts please? I can't find them | 17:18 |
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| coderus | thp: ^ | 17:42 |
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| pdanek | Did any of you with banned WhatsApp managed to get it unbanned? | 17:43 |
| pdanek | I contacted support, but no answer so far. | 17:43 |
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| pdanek | Also, is it safe to use Mitakuuluu? I'm almost sure the ban was because of unofficial client. | 17:44 |
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| pdanek | Btw, I was banned with latest version of Mitakuuluu. | 17:44 |
| oku | I'm still unbanned :) | 17:46 |
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| sippis | still using uitukka and latest version of mitakuuluu and not banned :O | 17:46 |
| pdanek | Is it worth updating to uitukka? | 17:47 |
| pdanek | Or should I just wait for official update? | 17:48 |
| oku | I don't know wheter it matters or not, but I had my account first registered via an official app. Three of my friends are banned right now and at least one of them first registered via mitäkuuluu. | 17:48 |
| pdanek | Or, by the time when we will have official, there will be even newer opt-in update? | 17:48 |
| pdanek | oku: I registered via official client, so it probably doesn't matter | 17:48 |
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| oku | ok. I was just guessing, but that proved me wrong | 17:49 |
| oku | hopefully it will be fixed | 17:50 |
| pdanek | http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/23154266 | 17:50 |
| oku | ultimate solution would be adopting better and open instant messaging system | 17:50 |
| pdanek | I'm getting this exact message in official now, one of possible listed reasons is: Using an automated system or an unauthorized / unofficial client application to send messages through WhatsApp. | 17:50 |
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| pdanek | oku: that ultimate solution doesn't depend on me, but on people I'm in touch with | 17:51 |
| oku | pdanek: I have the exact same problem | 17:51 |
| oku | If it only depended on me, we would everyone be on IRC ;) | 17:51 |
| pdanek | well | 17:51 |
| pdanek | I'm also into privacy and shit | 17:51 |
| pdanek | and for personal messaging, IRC isn't the best choice | 17:52 |
| pdanek | #tox is good, but in early development | 17:52 |
| pdanek | but pretty functional already | 17:52 |
| oku | it needs to be multi platform, secure and _easy_ for _everyone_, not just us nerds | 17:53 |
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| pdanek | tox is just that | 17:53 |
| pdanek | or, aiming to be | 17:53 |
| oku | pdanek: yeah, the aim is nice, but sadly it's not there yet | 17:53 |
| Jare | i was banned from wa on friday and i sent them a support request early yesterday - no answer so far | 17:53 |
| oku | I think at the moment tox is the most interesting one | 17:54 |
| pdanek | Jare: I was banned about Thursday I think | 17:54 |
| Jare | well it was thu-fri night actually | 17:54 |
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| pdanek | oku: definitely, it's quite functional already | 17:54 |
| pdanek | I think this ban was some mass check. | 17:55 |
| pdanek | Because so many Sailors got banned at the same time. | 17:55 |
| oku | it could be | 17:55 |
| pdanek | Mitakuuluu is still superior to official WA for me, but I'm a bit worried to continue using it. | 17:55 |
| oku | that's the problem with corporate closed source instant messaging | 17:55 |
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| oku | yeah, the official one isn't too impressing | 17:57 |
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| oku | I'm still using mitäkuuluu like before (until they ban me).. Then I'll search for something else | 17:58 |
| oku | Actually whatsapp banning people could be even nice for me. I'm not too keen on whatsapp and three of my friends have already been banned | 17:59 |
| oku | So it could be a nice point for my friend zone to migrate to something better ;) | 17:59 |
| oku | ...if there is something readily available | 18:00 |
| kaari | telegram? | 18:00 |
| oku | maybe that one | 18:00 |
| oku | the problem is that nothing that's ready for now isn't actually great on every aspect | 18:01 |
| kaari | yes, for now it seems that whatsapp is default. But hopin for something better. | 18:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | with a bit of luck something might become of specials ricochet | 18:07 |
| r0kk3rz | i think hes got grand designs for it, but if im reading the github correctly it sounds like hes re-doing the protocol | 18:08 |
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| kaari | i found bug that sound strange. I'm lisening music with media player and using gps to track where I'm, pushing rockin buttons make map application to perform, not musicplayer. tried with jolla's mp and spotify for jolla. | 18:26 |
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| kaari | and it does it in homescreen also. | 18:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | some apps hijack the volume buttons | 18:36 |
| coderus | akki didnt understand anything from your message | 18:36 |
| r0kk3rz | its not really a bug as such | 18:36 |
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| coderus | anyone? | 18:36 |
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| entil | I think textsecure would be nice but there's absolutely nothing for the jolla with that | 18:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | entil: no, but if whatsapp decide to make mitakuuluu useless | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | we have a decent messaging client in need of a protocol | 19:14 |
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| coderus | also i have news for you | 19:15 |
| coderus | whatsapp now using ciphertext and end-to-end decryption | 19:16 |
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| coderus | encryption :) | 19:16 |
| r0kk3rz | end to end decryption, thats impressive | 19:16 |
| coderus | :D | 19:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | never again will i have to decipher drunk messages | 19:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | but thats a surprisingly smart move from a company who makes money off peoples information | 19:18 |
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| coderus | and whatsapp will have voip calls *soon* | 19:20 |
| coderus | functions are already here | 19:20 |
| coderus | we still hacking protocol and etc :) | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds cool | 19:21 |
| cryorat | r0kk3rz, did you hear about tox? If whatsapp make mitakuuluu useless, we could use that. :) | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | id still wait for special to finish the ricochet protocol | 19:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but he'll make a sailfish client eventually anyway | 19:29 |
| pdanek | tox Sailfish client would be really good | 19:41 |
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| Nicd- | seconded | 19:42 |
| Nicd- | if whatsapp bans me because of mitakuuluu, it's over | 19:42 |
| pdanek | Nicd: well, it's pretty sure that all those bans that Sailors received last week, were because of mitakuuluu :) | 19:43 |
| pdanek | or, because of 3rd party client, to be specific | 19:43 |
| pdanek | and you can't blaim WhatsApp, because they have it in the agreement | 19:44 |
| lokimotive | ricochet sounds promising i just it'll deliver | 19:45 |
| lokimotive | s/just/just hope/ | 19:45 |
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| mornfall | dunno | 19:50 |
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| Asimov | I am banned on WhatsApp too ._. | 19:50 |
| mornfall | ricochet for sailfish sounds unlikely | 19:50 |
| mornfall | https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/issues/110 | 19:51 |
| mornfall | and honestly, a standalone app for IM on sailfish would just suck | 19:52 |
| Asimov | Yep | 19:52 |
| Asimov | So I moved my SIM to an Android device. WhatsApp has now started noticing whether you're using a custom ROM or not too. | 19:52 |
| mornfall | (but then, it'd mostly suck on any platform anyway...) | 19:53 |
| mornfall | and well | 19:53 |
| mornfall | adoption for tox and ricochet combined probably won't exceed a vanishing quantity | 19:53 |
| Aard | Asimov: so whatsapp kicks you out for running whatsapp on a custom rom? | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | well, telegram got quite a surge suddenly in korea or how was it? | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.dw.de/south-koreans-boycott-messaging-app-kakao-talk-en-masse-for-telegram/a-17981983 | 19:54 |
| Nicd- | mornfall: I'm happy if I can get my wife to use it | 19:54 |
| Asimov | No Aard, pops up a message saying custom roms are unsupported. | 19:55 |
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| Shinryuu | android version of whatsapp is unusable :/ | 19:55 |
| Asimov | I am assuming they'll start banning people if they use WA on Roms too now. | 19:55 |
| Shinryuu | also it's hard to convert my friends to use anything else | 19:55 |
| Shinryuu | that's getting better and better | 19:55 |
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| w00t | Shinryuu: get better friends ;) | 19:56 |
| Shinryuu | I prefer being alone | 19:56 |
| Aard | Shinryuu: wow, me too! should we be friends? | 19:56 |
| Shinryuu | !! | 19:56 |
| Merbot` | Shinryuu: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 19:56 |
| mornfall | Stskeeps: well, telegram has end-to-end encryption only on special “secret” chats... i.e. not by default | 19:56 |
| mornfall | everything else is stored in the cloud | 19:57 |
| mornfall | of course you *could* have end-to-end encryption *and* store the messages in the cloud | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | mornfall: ricochet developer special is an ex jolla Sailor afaik | 19:59 |
| mornfall | but then, the owner of the cloud wouldn't see the messages :-) | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | and business model is gone.. | 19:59 |
| mornfall | something like that, yeah | 19:59 |
| mornfall | r0kk3rz: see the above github issue though | 19:59 |
| mornfall | r0kk3rz: no telepathy means no native integration in sailfish | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 20:00 |
| mornfall | r0kk3rz: even if special makes a special ricochet app ... | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | well, he said he wouldnt do it | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | but nothing stopping someone from writing a telepathy plugin | 20:00 |
| mornfall | sure | 20:00 |
| special | it's not ideal for general purpose mobile messaging anyway, imo. | 20:00 |
| mornfall | nothing is ideal | 20:00 |
| mornfall | for a libpurple-supported protocol, I could convert half a dozen people in my social circle... for a standalone IM app, approximately zero | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting idea from the koreans though | 20:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | organise a mass switch on a particular date | 20:02 |
| special | integrating OTR in sailfish would be a good step | 20:03 |
| special | integrating something compatible with textsecure would be even cooler | 20:03 |
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| Asimov | Yep | 20:03 |
| Asimov | imo XMPP + OTR is a decent middle ground | 20:04 |
| mornfall | I'm not a big fan of OTR, actually... | 20:04 |
| mornfall | it solves the wrong problem | 20:04 |
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| Asimov | What's that? | 20:04 |
| special | it's meant to solve a useless problem (deniability) but it accidentally does an okay job of solving the right one (confidentiality) | 20:05 |
| mornfall | well, it hides the content of the conversation, which is currently substantially less valuable than metadata that is all there in the open | 20:05 |
| special | handling metadata requires something drastically different like ricochet, and it comes with a different set of tradeoffs | 20:05 |
| mornfall | analyzing (especially obscure) natural languages is very hard to automate | 20:06 |
| mornfall | but analyzing traffic not so much | 20:06 |
| r0kk3rz | NLP is getting better, slowly | 20:06 |
| mornfall | sure | 20:06 |
| mornfall | still | 20:06 |
| special | use trustworthy XMPP servers. | 20:06 |
| r0kk3rz | with enough resources (nsa) you can have a pretty massive seed dataset for NLP algos | 20:06 |
| mornfall | we don't have a solution for the hot problem, though we have a dozen or so for the cold one | 20:07 |
| pdanek | tox enrypts metadata as well, if I'm not mistaken | 20:07 |
| mornfall | special: and trustworthy ISPs and trustworthy infrastructure between them | 20:07 |
| pdanek | encrypts* | 20:07 |
| mornfall | not gonna happen | 20:07 |
| mornfall | pdanek: encryption doesn't help with metadata much | 20:07 |
| mornfall | pdanek: tox does different things to hide traffic | 20:08 |
| special | pdanek: tox is directly peer to peer. | 20:08 |
| special | supposedly. | 20:08 |
| mornfall | but probably not very efficient anyway | 20:08 |
| Asimov | Yes, it is peer-to-peer | 20:08 |
| mornfall | it's not the servers that are the problem, it's the infrastructure | 20:08 |
| Asimov | What do you mean? | 20:08 |
| Asimov | ISP's etc? | 20:08 |
| mornfall | Asimov: imagine you are the great china firewall | 20:08 |
| special | mornfall: other than large-scale traffic timing analysis or active interception, network monitoring won't reveal who you're talking to with a SSL-enabled XMPP server. | 20:09 |
| mornfall | Asimov: you don't need to compromise any servers or any clients to learn an awful lot about who's talking to who | 20:09 |
| special | (well, until they compromise the SSL private key.) | 20:09 |
| mornfall | true, as long as the XMPP server is both trustworthy and has a lot of traffic | 20:09 |
| Asimov | afaik you can run Tox over Tor. | 20:10 |
| Asimov | Unless something changed recently | 20:10 |
| special | Asimov: I think tox has significantly more marketing than substance at this point, I would approach with caution. | 20:10 |
| mornfall | (and many/most of the connections to that XMPP server are SSLd) | 20:10 |
| Asimov | special: I've been following it's development since it's inception. Yes it's a bunch of kids working on it, but look how far they've gotten. | 20:11 |
| mornfall | well, they have a plugin for libpurple, which is why I tried it | 20:11 |
| special | how far have they gotten? the last time I went looking for a spec I found some vague half-written pdf, I think? | 20:11 |
| Asimov | I wouldn't exactly depend on it unless someone independently audited the code, but then again you could say that for anything. | 20:11 |
| mornfall | but it doesn't work very well | 20:11 |
| Asimov | I haven't tried the plugin, or any of the releases over the past couple of months | 20:12 |
| Asimov | Last I tried it was when they had included audio support | 20:13 |
| Asimov | And it seemed to work well | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | doesnt need to be perfect to be better than plaintext | 20:16 |
| metallisto | Someone still needs a voucher? | 20:16 |
| pdanek | Actually | 20:23 |
| pdanek | I could use it. | 20:23 |
| pdanek | But not 100% sure yet. | 20:23 |
| pdanek | Just 50% | 20:23 |
| pdanek | :D | 20:23 |
| pdanek | @metallisto | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | do the vouchers still work? | 20:23 |
| Yaniel | aren't they about to time out anyway | 20:23 |
| pdanek | yay | 20:23 |
| pdanek | about to? | 20:24 |
| pdanek | but doesn't matter | 20:24 |
| pdanek | I guess I'll wait couple months | 20:24 |
| pdanek | and Jolla will get cheaper anyway | 20:24 |
| pdanek | cuz I wanted backup Jolla for myself | 20:25 |
| Yaniel | or just get jolla2 when it comes out | 20:25 |
| metallisto | Offer is valid until November 2 | 20:25 |
| pdanek | Yaniel: Jolla 2! | 20:25 |
| pdanek | The hype goes on? | 20:25 |
| Yaniel | sure | 20:25 |
| pdanek | The only worry is that Jolla 2 won't have other half. | 20:25 |
| pdanek | Thus I couldn't use TOHKBD | 20:26 |
| Shinryuu | Jolla 2 doesn't have other half? | 20:26 |
| pdanek | TOHKBD is the thing why I stick to Jolla | 20:26 |
| r0kk3rz | anything TOH and J2 related is pure speculation | 20:26 |
| Shinryuu | ^ | 20:26 |
| Yaniel | it'll make the galaxy s 7 look like a 56k modem | 20:26 |
| Shinryuu | I see | 20:26 |
| pdanek | if Jolla now says, no TOHKBD, fuck you, no keyboard in the future, I would switch to BlackBerry right now | 20:26 |
| pdanek | :D | 20:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | and then you would try to open terminal there...... wait, lol no terminal | 20:27 |
| pdanek | Morpog_PC__: in my world, keyboard > terminal | 20:28 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, you could get an android with keyboard | 20:28 |
| pdanek | even keyboard > apps, give me brick with single notepad app on it and I'm good as long as it has real keyboard | 20:28 |
| pdanek | ah ok | 20:28 |
| pdanek | right | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | bluetooth keyboard cases exist for the iphone | 20:28 |
| pdanek | except Android | 20:29 |
| pdanek | :D | 20:29 |
| pdanek | and except iPhone | 20:29 |
| pdanek | :D | 20:29 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure bluetooth keyboard cases exist for other phones as well | 20:29 |
| Morpog_PC__ | www.androidauthority.com/best-qwerty-android-smartphones-335748/ | 20:29 |
| Yaniel | that leaves... some lumia? | 20:29 |
| pdanek | I was early adopter of Android and T-Mobile G1 and I tried many Android devices, but the OS is so hard to use, it's frustrating.... after trying N900, there is no way back, except BlackBerry | 20:30 |
| Morpog_PC__ | you could slam sailfish launcher on it :D | 20:30 |
| pdanek | mmm | 20:31 |
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| pdanek | Do you guys think, that Jolla 2 with TOHKBD will finally be the drem device? | 20:34 |
| pdanek | And with dream device, I mean finally with lasers. | 20:34 |
| dunp | TOHDISPKBD :) | 20:35 |
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| tbr | pdanek: I don't care if it comes with a pet shark, as long as it doesn't become the DukeNukem style JollaForever | 20:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | jolla 2 will be released when its done | 21:17 |
| Shinryuu | ^ | 21:17 |
| Yaniel | along with hl3 | 21:18 |
| Nicd- | and Duke Nukem 5ever | 21:19 |
| Shinryuu | sounds like a plan | 21:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | im not sure anyone is going to dare make another duke nukem | 21:29 |
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| Nicd- | if they ever did, they should name it 5ever | 21:29 |
| r0kk3rz | and hl3 is never going to happen | 21:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | valves method of game development isnt really good for making long story oriented games | 21:30 |
| Nicd- | but they have already made two that were extremely successful | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that was before | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | now they have the whole 'people can work on whatever they want' thing | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | which means all the developers go to whatever is new and cool, like portal | 21:32 |
| Nicd- | you might find that PR is often different from reality | 21:32 |
| r0kk3rz | true | 21:33 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure that applies in this case, because valve dont really need to make games anymore | 21:33 |
| r0kk3rz | they have steam, they have all of the money | 21:34 |
| r0kk3rz | so they can have project after project that never gets finished, and the few that do will be really cool | 21:34 |
| ggabriel | ^ | 21:34 |
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| ggabriel | "sorry, guys, we already have too much money" | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | so they arent just going to churn out another halflife, unless there is something really new about it | 21:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | looks like telegram already has a qt based app | 21:55 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/tree/master/Telegram/SourceFiles/mtproto | 21:55 |
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| TemeV | r0kk3rz: there is also library https://code.launchpad.net/~libqtelegram-team/libqtelegram/ | 22:39 |
| TemeV | which is still work in progress I think | 22:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | looks that way | 22:41 |
| r0kk3rz | http://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telegram-connection-manager-gsoc-2014-task-overview/ | 22:42 |
| r0kk3rz | work has already begun on a telepathy plugin | 22:43 |
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| TemeV | I wonder when do we get group chats to telepathy on Jolla | 22:46 |
| TemeV | Is there roadmap for that? | 22:47 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea | 22:49 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure telepathy does group chats | 22:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | hmmm i think that telegram telepathy plugin is dead | 22:58 |
| r0kk3rz | seems to be a whole load of nothing on that dev blog | 22:58 |
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