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| Shinryuu | lol, lipstick crashed after a call | 08:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | sometimes you sneeze and lipstick crashes | 09:05 |
| r0kk3rz | good thing is it recovers quickly | 09:05 |
| Shinryuu | indeed | 09:09 |
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| svuorela | this might be a .. stupid question, but where is the guide on how to write apps ? | 13:13 |
| ggabriel | svuorela: https://sailfishos.org/develop.html | 13:14 |
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| svuorela | ggabriel: thanks. but. urgh. another copy of qtcreator ? :/ | 13:16 |
| Yaniel | should get integrated into vanilla someday | 13:17 |
| Nicd- | apparently the plugin api is not there yet for it to be integrated | 13:18 |
| svuorela | or is it just a convenience copy of qtcreator? And is the silica bits opensourcsed ? | 13:18 |
| Nicd- | silica QML is open source | 13:19 |
| Nicd- | but C++ is not | 13:19 |
| svuorela | so one need to either trust the sailfish people completely or use a virtual machine to do development in :/ | 13:19 |
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| Nicd- | well, you already bought their phone... | 13:20 |
| Nightmare__ | you must trust someone, or do you review all code you compile from other sources? | 13:21 |
| svuorela | the amount of people I trust is those with a key in the debian keyring. | 13:21 |
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| svuorela | Nicd-: but my phone doesn't have access to the same things my computer has access to. | 13:22 |
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| Nicd- | well, you can develop without qt creator too | 13:25 |
| Nicd- | some people have done that | 13:25 |
| Nicd- | you just need to build in the build vm yourself | 13:25 |
| svuorela | I think I need the silica components as well | 13:25 |
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| Nicd- | but they're UI components, they don't have access to your computer | 13:26 |
| Nicd- | even emulation is done in a vm | 13:26 |
| svuorela | I'd expect - like my normal qt coding - to test stuff in my normal machine and only go for emulation at a very late stage. | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the sdk comes with the VM needed for compiling + deploying | 13:27 |
| Nicd- | there's no way to test the silica stuff except running on a phone or the emulator VM | 13:27 |
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| Jare | svuorela: it's provided as a bundled installer, so that everyone has a smooth user experience. There are some distant plans to have the plugin included with vanilla, but not anytime soon | 13:45 |
| Jare | svuorela: your app might have a bunch of other dependencies besides silica, which are automatically handled in the mer vm. And also the rpm packaging is handled there. You'll also need support to do arm binaries and those are done in the mer vm as well... | 13:46 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the vm is kinda important | 13:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | you can really develop any other way | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | *cant | 13:47 |
| svuorela | I'd expect it to only be relevant at a late stage in the app development, not unlike when I'm doing Qt desktop apps for windows ... | 13:48 |
| Jare | svuorela: besides mer vm, there is the emulator, which is actually an i486 version of the sailfish os | 13:48 |
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| coderus | svuorela: Sailfish QtCreator is opensourced afaik | 13:57 |
| coderus | svuorela: you can code Qt5 stuf in your favourite IDE | 13:58 |
| coderus | and in very late stage make silica ui and compile for sailfish in SailfishSDK | 13:58 |
| svuorela | coderus: I was hoping to pull in silica ui much earlier in the process. | 13:59 |
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| coderus | then install SailfishSDK, File -> New Project -> Sailfish Silica. WHat problems? | 13:59 |
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| Jare | yup, it's in github: https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sailfish-qtcreator/tree/master | 14:00 |
| Jare | the sdk is actually contained in a single folder, so it doesn't mess up anything even if you have the vanilla qt creator installed | 14:01 |
| coderus | SailfishSDK contains MerSDK VM and SailfishOS VM installers exactly for your - it wont garbage your pc with any stuff, everything will be kept inside VM | 14:01 |
| coderus | except main (one) SalifishOS folder and your projects folders of course | 14:01 |
| coderus | i have a lot of qtcc installed, and all of them working fine :) | 14:02 |
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| svuorela | coderus: I don't have binary code executed on my main system that isn't found thru my linux distribution's main channels. | 14:15 |
| r0kk3rz | put the sdk in a vm then? | 14:24 |
| svuorela | that's my plan | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | sure it'll be a vm in a vm, but then its seperated at least | 14:24 |
| tbr | make sure the VM supports KVM pass-through, else vbox will fail IIRC | 14:27 |
| tbr | although you might be able to reconfigure vbox to do full emulation | 14:27 |
| coderus | paranoia everywhere | 14:31 |
| coderus | just install *buntu virtual machine and configure SDK in scratchbox: https://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/ | 14:32 |
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| coderus | svuorela: compile Sailfish QtCreator from sources | 14:33 |
| coderus | and build engine is already in VM | 14:33 |
| coderus | you dont need to virtualize anything yourself | 14:34 |
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| SvenBertil | Hi! Anyone here willing to help me? I need mmcblk0p28 from a working phone. Thanks in advance! | 18:03 |
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| cryorat | SvenBertil, where can I find it? | 18:12 |
| coderus | SvenBertil: ask author: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93849 | 18:14 |
| coderus | SvenBertil: he have backup | 18:14 |
| coderus | but, does your problem really requires that? | 18:14 |
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| SvenBertil | Now it does.. :S was a little to fast when i try to fix it.. | 18:29 |
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| SvenBertil | cryorat, dd the partition from the phone. it contains all the personal data and the operationsystem files on the phone. so i want from a factory new phone or you have to delete the files that you want me to get. | 18:45 |
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| cryorat | SvenBertil, jizzus christ! what did you do? :D | 19:24 |
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| cryorat | btw, im a bit tired now for this procedure, so ill do it tomorrow | 19:25 |
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| SvenBertil | cryorat, no coment.. :) The phone get in boot loop and recovery and btrfs fix dident do the job. | 19:26 |
| cryorat | my phone is not even a week old so I dont mind to lose all my data, | 19:26 |
| cryorat | i will do a reset, and restore from backup | 19:27 |
| cryorat | my factory os version is 1.0.7 | 19:27 |
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| SvenBertil | dosent do a thing what version it is. if you dd to sdcard you must have btrfs or ext4 to get the whole partition, its 14gb some thing | 19:30 |
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| SvenBertil | here is an other procedure, https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb if i get the tar files in that description, it maybe will work. | 19:33 |
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| SvenBertil | no need for factory reset then. | 19:34 |
| falfa | does Jolla read ext4? | 19:40 |
| falfa | that would be awesome | 19:40 |
| SvenBertil | yha | 19:41 |
| M4rtinK | falfa: works on my uSD just fine | 19:42 |
| M4rtinK | falfa: others are using btrfs on uSD | 19:42 |
| M4rtinK | falfa: unfortunately XFS doesn't seem to be supported :-( | 19:42 |
| fennekki | falfa: why ext4 when you've got btrfs | 19:43 |
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| ahjolinna | btrfs is still not ready, at least on 3.4 kernel | 19:46 |
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| falfa | I must try, this is great news :-) | 19:58 |
| falfa | how elegant | 19:58 |
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| coderus | and i'm still using oldschool fat32 :D | 20:04 |
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| cryorat | SvenBertil, maybe is not enough i'll use sd card :) | 20:16 |
| SvenBertil | cryorat, se if you can do the 2 first steps in this https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb maybe the only thing i need.. | 20:22 |
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| cryorat | ohh fuck it! ill do it now, im too curious | 20:31 |
| SvenBertil | cryorat, :D | 20:32 |
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| timothey | hey, i think i bricked my phone, cant even do a factory reset in recovery mode, anyone who can help me :/ | 21:05 |
| SvenBertil | timothey, have you tested the btrfs fix? | 21:09 |
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| SvenBertil | btrfs recovery? | 21:10 |
| timothey | yes, didnt work.... i know that my phone memory is full so i tried to delet the snaps, with no success , its mounting for 3 hours now.. | 21:11 |
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| SvenBertil | how large sd do you have? | 21:13 |
| timothey | at the beginning my phone rebooted with the green LED blinking, after that i tried a factory reset since then i am in bootloop | 21:13 |
| timothey | 8gb | 21:13 |
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| timothey | i tired this , "mount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/" still nothing | 21:13 |
| SvenBertil | get some errors when you do that comand? | 21:18 |
| timothey | no, its operating | 21:19 |
| timothey | but now for 3 hours | 21:19 |
| SvenBertil | try an restart de device in recovery and do it again. | 21:21 |
| timothey | i dont care about loosing data, have a backup at the pc, , how long should i usually take, this command? | 21:21 |
| SvenBertil | at my full partition i took a cople of seconds.. | 21:22 |
| SvenBertil | you can dd the mmcblk0p28 and mount it on the computer and see if you can fix the problem there. | 21:24 |
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| SvenBertil | i wait for tar files for that partition to recover my phone if i succeed i can help you with it too. | 21:25 |
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| timothey | would be great, since i am not good in those stuff :/ | 21:30 |
| timothey | segmentation fault, is the error now | 21:32 |
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| gogeta | SvenBertil, and timothey | 21:34 |
| gogeta | http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html | 21:34 |
| gogeta | pls btrfs fi show | 21:34 |
| SvenBertil | gogeta, i have more proplems, i have to have files from a working phone. | 21:38 |
| timothey | and i am to stupid for that :D | 21:39 |
| gogeta | you need a mmc0p28 dump ? | 21:39 |
| timothey | yes | 21:40 |
| gogeta | need a virgin phone for that | 21:41 |
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| timothey | Label: 'sailfish' uuid: 86180ca0-d351-4551-b262-22b49e1adf47 Total devices 1 FS bytes used 7.17GB devid 1 size 13.75GB used 13.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 21:43 |
| gogeta | pls | 21:43 |
| gogeta | is a bit scary | 21:43 |
| gogeta | but works | 21:43 |
| gogeta | you need to mount that fs | 21:43 |
| SvenBertil | i found this, https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb i waiting for that tar files cryorat fixes. | 21:43 |
| gogeta | i did something different | 21:45 |
| gogeta | mount | 21:45 |
| gogeta | and try to rebanlance with small values | 21:45 |
| gogeta | -dusage=0 to 30 | 21:46 |
| gogeta | don't go higher | 21:46 |
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