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pdanekIf Sailfish will spread and other HW manufacturers will start to make Sailfish phones.01:00
pdanekWill Jolla keep releasing Jolla phones? In a way like Google releases Nexus devices? To give the direction?01:01
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Dima^It would be nice, because my Jolla already destroyed my two pants05:12
Dima^it has so sharp edges05:12
Dima^other's phones phones has better edges05:13
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MirvDima^: hehe :) I like the shape, bezels could be thinner though.05:59
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Dima^even 2mm rounding on edges would be enough.06:06
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clauhas anyone tried to install latest tor from nieldk's repo?09:52
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Acceyou need pants of steel13:13
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Dima^Acce: they are not so comfy13:14
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late88Hi. Can someone help howto debug this one? My phone is in that state right now. https://together.jolla.com/question/58357/bug-no-mobile-data-after-disabling-wlan/13:16
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Mirvanyone knows of any together.j.c posting related to calls not coming through to Jolla but seems normal to the caller, just no answer?13:51
MirvI missed today (minimum) two calls, and Jolla shows nothing of them. I even called myself to test, but nothing happened before I rebooted.13:52
Mirvmeanwhile, 4G data was working the whole day, nothing seemed wrong13:52
Temejust as a side note: 4G doesn't handle phone calls at all13:53
Mirvyep13:53
giucamMirv: no dialer ui, no sound or vibration?13:53
Mirvgiucam: nothing, no show of missed calls either13:53
late88maybe it's related to the 4G/LTE network. https://together.jolla.com/question/47765/4g-lte-bug-cannot-receive-call-diverted-to-voicemail/#post-id-4838113:54
Mirvto caller it anyway seemed that I just don't answer13:58
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late88yes. that what is said in he post.14:00
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pdanek1Jolla 2!!!14:10
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BSc_tadzikwhat now? :)14:11
Mirvlate88: maybe related yes.14:12
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SK_workwhat Jolla 2 ?14:14
Morpog_PC__old news, got a Jolla 3 prototype here on my desk14:15
SK_workmeh14:15
SK_workI have a Jolla 014:15
BSc_tadzikI think Jolla One, the nextgen14:16
BSc_tadzikladies please, one at a time14:16
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SK_workwhy always one ?14:17
SK_workHTC one ?14:17
SK_workandroid one ?14:17
SK_workI want better than one14:17
BSc_tadzikthe chosen one14:17
SK_workeither two or zero14:17
Morpog_PC__or 201514:18
Morpog_PC__or Jolla S, L and XL14:19
Morpog_PC__3 s devices with different sizes14:19
Morpog_PC__:D14:19
StskeepsBSc_tadzik: graduated today? :P14:19
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BSc_tadzikStskeeps: wednesday :)14:19
Stskeepshehe, congrats14:20
BSc_tadzikthanks :)14:20
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HarhaanJohtajaor Jooli14:21
HarhaanJohtajahttp://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jooli14:21
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Shinryuuwhat14:38
Shinryuuahh.. now I understand14:38
Shinryuugotta love saunaland14:39
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Mirvok, I guess I need to use Prefer 3G and only switch to 4G when I tether (=really need fast connection)15:49
Mirvto not miss calls15:49
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tigeliMirv: sonera?16:08
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Nightmare__does anyone know where calendar settings are stored? (i deleted a exchange active sync acc but connected cals are still present and i have to delete them manualy)16:51
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pp_https://together.jolla.com/question/33975/bug-google-calendar-not-showing-all-events/ has details?; )16:53
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* sec waves18:23
secHello old users. I am now a fellow new user.18:24
Aciidoh wello18:25
secHey Aciid!18:25
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Aciidhows your friday sec18:26
secNot bad, how about you?18:26
Aciidnot much browsing reddit18:27
Aciidas always18:27
aupo:D18:28
secThat's pretty much me, a little drunk though I am afraid.18:28
secThis looks like a solid upgrade from me old N90018:29
aupoTime to rm -rf / the N900 then :)18:30
aupoJust to see it go.18:30
secNo :( I finally hit the last level on contra on it today18:30
secA few more days, and CSSU thumb it is18:31
Aciidsec: switching to Jolla camp then?18:31
secAye mate, just booted it up for the first time actually18:31
secMy first reaction: I need more other halfs18:32
Aciidsec: enable development mode from settings, youll be even more amazed18:32
Aciidopens up SSH on the device and full root18:33
Aciidworks with wifi and USB lan18:33
Siddesec: as a fellow drunk i just want to say, hope you enjoy the phone18:33
Aciidyes, enjoy!18:33
secDo I get the terminal automagically or is that an app on the store?18:33
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Siddedon't rememeber anymore if it just turns up if you enable developer mode or if its in the store...18:34
secSidde: I am. I must say. Sailfish is god damned beautiful.. ;o18:34
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Siddemy jolla has been very lucky. I've twice dropped it when i've been out sailing and it has bounced back into the cockpit18:35
secSeriously, the OS screenshots don't do it justice at all18:35
coderushehe, i dropped my jolla A LOT of times ;)18:35
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Siddecoderus: it's a bit different dropping something when you're out on the ocean than in your living room ;)18:36
* sec raises his glass to coderus. Thanks for the WhatsApp clone bro.18:37
kimmolisec: terminal comes with devmode18:37
Siddeone of the times, it even touched the security lines and back into the boat. It's hard filming when your're flying the spinnaker at the same time :D18:37
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secThanks kimmoli18:37
M4rtinKoh, so ship sailing18:37
M4rtinKnot sail planes :)18:37
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secWhy's everyone been crying about the screen being bad? Or do I need glasses?18:37
SiddeM4rtinK: yes. i have a motorboat, a sailboat, a dinghy and a few windsurfing boards ;)18:38
kimmolisailfish on jolla on sailboat ?18:38
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Siddehttp://home.frontslash.org/gallery/index.php?dir=%2FSailing%2F2014_Sailing&page=&prev=20140710-012.jpg18:39
kimmolicatch'a'fish18:39
Siddethat's my sailboat, the photo is taken with the jolla :D18:39
* sec chuckles - Xena hue18:40
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Siddei had to give her a name that i thougt fitting for a boat you race18:42
secShe's pretty. How long is she?18:42
Sidde7.8 meters18:42
SiddeAlbin Express18:42
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Siddei bought my jolla for programming a navigator for the boat actually. That it can serve as a phone is just a bonus :D18:48
Siddebut i've been waiting for qt 5.2 for almost a year now :D18:48
secWhat's the average battery life you guys are getting on it? Does the Android emulation layer impact it significantly?18:48
Siddei charge it every 3rd to 4th day. I'll guess the android env. will use an extra amount of power18:50
secWhoa that's really good18:50
louisdkAt rare times I enter the messages app experience this bug where word suggestions I overlapping my text field. If I start to type og swipe away (to eg. launch a screenshot app) the suggestions will move down (hence the picture): http://i.imgur.com/egYJZcj.jpg18:50
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claulooks like a backup is stuck. is it safe to close the settings app in the middle of the process?19:01
aupoI continuously have a bug where opening tab selection in the browser before a connection has been established leads to crash of the browser app.19:01
Toxipyoyo19:02
clauaupo, I have noticed the problem too.19:02
aupoIt's... easily worked around of, but quite annoying still.19:02
Toxipsame here19:02
Toxiphey, does anyone here use HaveClip?19:03
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* messerting tries to bump this for more votes: https://together.jolla.com/question/51437/request-merge-notification-and-lock-screen-swipe-to-open-like-n9/19:03
messertingIt really annoys me the way the notifiacation screen works when I use a lock code.19:04
BSc_tadzikI wish I could upvote you twice19:04
Yaniellouisdk: looks like you just scrolled the conversation history?19:05
clauyou have my vote on that19:05
BSc_tadzikand my bow19:05
Yanielthat could have a rubberband effect IMO19:05
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Yanielso it would slide back if close enough19:05
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Toxiphas anyone used HaveClip on Windows and Jolla? I can't seem to be able to add nodes to it :/19:07
Toxipsays, unable to connect19:07
claumesserting, apparently I've already voted on that.19:07
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louisdkYaniel, I was not. I just entered a contact and I'm at the lastest message.19:15
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messertingclau: Thanks :)19:16
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louisdkYaniel, Couldn't find this issue on TJC, so I'll create a ticket :)19:20
kimmolimesserting: tip. make small edit, or comment on that question, it will be top on the list for a moment.19:20
kimmoliall comments are now from July19:20
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messertingkimmoli: I know, but currently I've got 5 out of 9 comments... Anyone willing to help me out? A comment is worth at least 10 votes, don't you think? :)19:30
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messertingThank you for three more votes on this!: https://together.jolla.com/question/51437/request-merge-notification-and-lock-screen-swipe-to-open-like-n9/20:06
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pdanekHello20:56
pdanekWhy in the world does TJC have ads?20:56
pdanekOk it doesn't.20:58
w00thuh? :)20:58
pdanekI have some bullshit SafetySearch spyware here.20:58
pdanekWhich is making me ads on webs, including TJC.20:58
pdanekI was scared.20:58
pdanek:D20:58
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pdanekI haven't had Spyware for a loong time21:00
pdanekmaybe 2 years21:00
pdanekhum21:01
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pdanekI'm connected to LTE and when I start tethering over wifi, LTE drops back to 3G, always.21:07
pdanekWhy?21:07
pdanekShared antenna for LTE and wifi?21:07
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pdanekit's quite bad, because why would anyone need LTE in his phone, LTE is mainly to tether to laptop :)21:07
slateIs iptables set for lte tethering?21:09
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slatesome android phoones were configured to tether via 3g21:09
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pdanek1Trying again and really.21:12
pdanek1Once I start wifi for tethering.4G drops to 3G21:12
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pdanek1Ok I  installed some package21:30
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pdanek1and now usb tethering works21:30
pdanek1:D21:30
pdanek1and my 4G doesn't drop to 3g21:30
pdanek1woot21:30
louisdkpdanek1, spyware huh. Do you use Windows on your desktop? :P21:32
pdanek1louisdk: Just for gamez.21:34
pdanek1:)21:34
pdanek1And games are exactly the reason why I need LTE internet, for good response :)21:35
pdanek13G has shittier pings here21:35
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keithzg3G will always have worse pings, that's the real-world difference in the technologies that actually matters (I've yet to run into a situation where my maximum 3G data throughput was actually a limiting factor in anything I do).21:45
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keithzgBut even with LTE, are pings really going to be consistent enough to play something like UT?21:45
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keithzg(arena twitch shooters being my go-to for games you really need a decent ping to play)21:49
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pdanek1keithzg: not FPS< but moba games yes22:04
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