| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 00:10 | |
| *** Kabouik has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 00:13 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| coderus | no idea about N4 specials, but ssu re 1.0.8.19 && version --dup should work if not break :) | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 00:37 | |
| ryukafalz | coderus: oh, interesting | 00:38 |
| ryukafalz | I feel like I might run into problems with lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 (I think that's the package name) | 00:39 |
| ryukafalz | I did last time I was messing with upgrading Jolla packages | 00:39 |
| * ryukafalz pokes around | 00:39 | |
| *** Behold has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 00:41 | |
| *** ottulonen has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** ottulonen has joined #jollamobile | 00:44 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 00:45 | |
| ryukafalz | welp, here goes nothing | 00:45 |
| ryukafalz | actually no, backups first :> | 00:46 |
| *** motalb has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| ryukafalz | aaand rebooting | 01:07 |
| * ryukafalz crosses fingers | 01:07 | |
| ryukafalz | coderus: Thank you! It worked! :D | 01:09 |
| *** motalb has joined #jollamobile | 01:11 | |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 01:16 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #jollamobile | 01:17 | |
| *** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile | 01:18 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 01:21 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 01:25 | |
| coderus | good :) | 01:27 |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 01:30 | |
| *** faiden has quit IRC | 01:35 | |
| ryukafalz | I didn't know it was as simple as changing the version with ssu like that | 01:35 |
| *** KaIRC has quit IRC | 01:39 | |
| *** faiden has joined #jollamobile | 01:40 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 01:40 | |
| *** master_o1_master has joined #jollamobile | 01:41 | |
| *** master_of_master has quit IRC | 01:45 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 02:02 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 02:02 | |
| *** imunsie has joined #jollamobile | 02:09 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 02:09 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 02:14 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 02:14 | |
| *** mornfall has quit IRC | 02:22 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 02:34 | |
| *** bloodhoof has joined #jollamobile | 02:36 | |
| *** natunen has joined #jollamobile | 02:37 | |
| *** bloodhoof has quit IRC | 02:37 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #jollamobile | 02:44 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 02:50 | |
| *** spiiroin has quit IRC | 02:55 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 02:56 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 02:56 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 02:57 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 03:11 | |
| *** spiiroin has joined #jollamobile | 03:14 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has joined #jollamobile | 03:27 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has quit IRC | 03:27 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 03:28 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 03:31 | |
| *** Morpog_PC___ has joined #jollamobile | 03:34 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has quit IRC | 03:34 | |
| *** MMori_ has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** crazy_imp has quit IRC | 03:50 | |
| *** crazy_imp has joined #jollamobile | 03:52 | |
| *** natunen has quit IRC | 03:53 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 03:56 | |
| *** furikku has joined #jollamobile | 03:59 | |
| *** martyone has joined #jollamobile | 04:03 | |
| *** MMori has joined #jollamobile | 04:06 | |
| *** protem has joined #jollamobile | 04:06 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 04:09 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 04:13 | |
| *** vode has joined #jollamobile | 04:15 | |
| *** Kilroo has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 04:31 | |
| *** FR-PC has joined #jollamobile | 04:40 | |
| *** FReaper-PC has quit IRC | 04:42 | |
| *** PeperJohnny has joined #jollamobile | 04:50 | |
| *** mornfall has joined #jollamobile | 04:51 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 04:51 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 04:52 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 04:56 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 04:57 | |
| *** PeperJohnny has quit IRC | 05:00 | |
| *** PeperJohnny has joined #jollamobile | 05:00 | |
| *** Pnuu has left #jollamobile | 05:06 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 05:09 | |
| *** Kilroo has joined #jollamobile | 05:12 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 05:14 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 05:22 | |
| *** uvatdesk has joined #jollamobile | 05:28 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 05:30 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 05:30 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 05:31 | |
| *** radekp has joined #jollamobile | 05:32 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 05:33 | |
| *** eleroux has joined #jollamobile | 05:33 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 05:36 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has quit IRC | 05:38 | |
| *** thessy has joined #jollamobile | 05:39 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has joined #jollamobile | 05:40 | |
| *** Morpog_PC___ has quit IRC | 05:40 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 05:43 | |
| *** veskuh has quit IRC | 05:44 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 05:46 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 05:46 | |
| *** Sailor6916_ has joined #jollamobile | 05:47 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 05:49 | |
| *** Jpel has quit IRC | 05:49 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 05:49 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 05:49 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 05:49 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 05:50 | |
| Kiranos | lol cer *.openddesktop.org is not valid .. | 05:51 |
| Kiranos | cert | 05:51 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 05:52 | |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 05:53 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #jollamobile | 05:56 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has quit IRC | 05:56 | |
| *** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile | 05:56 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 05:58 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 06:00 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #jollamobile | 06:02 | |
| *** vode has quit IRC | 06:02 | |
| *** vode has joined #jollamobile | 06:03 | |
| *** TemeV has joined #jollamobile | 06:09 | |
| *** ernesti has joined #jollamobile | 06:09 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 06:12 | |
| *** veskuh has joined #jollamobile | 06:27 | |
| *** goroboro has joined #jollamobile | 06:31 | |
| *** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | 06:35 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 06:39 | |
| *** ernesti has quit IRC | 06:43 | |
| *** lainwir3d__ has joined #jollamobile | 06:52 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 06:54 | |
| *** artemma has joined #jollamobile | 06:57 | |
| *** kunev has joined #jollamobile | 06:59 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #jollamobile | 07:01 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 07:02 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has joined #jollamobile | 07:04 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has quit IRC | 07:04 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin has joined #jollamobile | 07:04 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 07:06 | |
| *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo | 07:06 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 07:07 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #jollamobile | 07:08 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has joined #jollamobile | 07:08 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 07:10 | |
| *** jjanvier has joined #jollamobile | 07:12 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 07:14 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 07:14 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 07:18 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 07:20 | |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 07:22 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 07:23 | |
| *** cristi has joined #jollamobile | 07:25 | |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 07:27 | |
| *** killSwam has joined #jollamobile | 07:29 | |
| *** gexc has joined #jollamobile | 07:31 | |
| *** SK_work has joined #jollamobile | 07:32 | |
| *** Porkepix has quit IRC | 07:32 | |
| *** mjones_ has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** mjones has joined #jollamobile | 07:33 | |
| *** mjones has joined #jollamobile | 07:34 | |
| *** reviewjolla_ has joined #jollamobile | 07:34 | |
| *** mjones has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
| *** dhbiker has joined #jollamobile | 07:41 | |
| *** jmlich has joined #jollamobile | 07:41 | |
| Bysmyyr_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/55713/allow-to-choose-building-number-after-predictive-street-name/ | 07:45 |
| *** goroboro has quit IRC | 07:47 | |
| *** goroboro has joined #jollamobile | 07:48 | |
| *** reviewjolla_J has joined #jollamobile | 07:50 | |
| *** norayr has joined #jollamobile | 07:51 | |
| *** reviewjolla_ has quit IRC | 07:54 | |
| *** mjones has joined #jollamobile | 07:56 | |
| *** niqt has joined #jollamobile | 07:56 | |
| *** veskuh has quit IRC | 07:56 | |
| *** Tofe|Away is now known as Tofe | 07:58 | |
| *** Sailor-2gether has joined #jollamobile | 07:58 | |
| *** Sail0r has quit IRC | 07:59 | |
| *** Pilke has joined #jollamobile | 08:02 | |
| *** sameo has joined #jollamobile | 08:07 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 08:08 | |
| *** thargor has joined #jollamobile | 08:08 | |
| *** r0kk3rz has joined #jollamobile | 08:09 | |
| *** TMavica has joined #jollamobile | 08:10 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #jollamobile | 08:11 | |
| *** uvatdesk has quit IRC | 08:13 | |
| *** artemma has quit IRC | 08:20 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #jollamobile | 08:21 | |
| *** protem has quit IRC | 08:34 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 08:35 | |
| *** maxorator has quit IRC | 08:37 | |
| *** maxorator has joined #jollamobile | 08:38 | |
| *** dhbiker has quit IRC | 08:39 | |
| *** Sailor-2gether has quit IRC | 08:39 | |
| *** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile | 08:40 | |
| *** artemma has joined #jollamobile | 08:45 | |
| *** jreznik has joined #jollamobile | 08:48 | |
| *** hge has quit IRC | 08:48 | |
| *** spider-mario has joined #jollamobile | 08:50 | |
| *** reviewjolla_J has quit IRC | 08:50 | |
| *** dhbiker has joined #jollamobile | 08:52 | |
| *** reviewjolla_J has joined #jollamobile | 08:53 | |
| *** spider-mario has joined #jollamobile | 08:54 | |
| *** Pilke has quit IRC | 08:57 | |
| *** jreznik has quit IRC | 08:57 | |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 08:58 | |
| *** jreznik has joined #jollamobile | 08:58 | |
| *** arcean has joined #jollamobile | 09:01 | |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 09:01 | |
| *** bef0rd has quit IRC | 09:02 | |
| *** cristi has joined #jollamobile | 09:02 | |
| *** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile | 09:02 | |
| *** vode has quit IRC | 09:03 | |
| *** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile | 09:03 | |
| *** jreznik_ has joined #jollamobile | 09:03 | |
| *** vode has joined #jollamobile | 09:04 | |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 09:05 | |
| *** lbt_ is now known as lbt | 09:06 | |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 09:06 | |
| *** jreznik has quit IRC | 09:07 | |
| *** bef0rd has quit IRC | 09:08 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 09:15 | |
| *** Sequenced has joined #jollamobile | 09:17 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| *** M4rtinK_jolla_ has quit IRC | 09:24 | |
| *** jjanvier has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile | 09:26 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has joined #jollamobile | 09:26 | |
| *** Noiseless has joined #jollamobile | 09:30 | |
| *** ottulonen has quit IRC | 09:33 | |
| *** joered has joined #jollamobile | 09:33 | |
| *** jmlich has quit IRC | 09:36 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 09:41 | |
| *** Milhouse has quit IRC | 09:42 | |
| *** jmlich has joined #jollamobile | 09:44 | |
| *** Swan_Z has joined #jollamobile | 09:45 | |
| *** jreznik_ has quit IRC | 09:46 | |
| *** jreznik_ has joined #jollamobile | 09:46 | |
| *** thargor has quit IRC | 09:46 | |
| *** artemma has quit IRC | 09:49 | |
| *** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile | 09:51 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 09:56 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 09:57 | |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 10:02 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:04 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 10:07 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:07 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:09 | |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 10:11 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 10:13 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:13 | |
| *** TMavica has quit IRC | 10:14 | |
| *** jmlich has quit IRC | 10:18 | |
| *** Lancer has quit IRC | 10:19 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:21 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 10:22 | |
| *** maxorator has quit IRC | 10:22 | |
| *** Adityab has joined #jollamobile | 10:22 | |
| *** s1gk1ll has joined #jollamobile | 10:23 | |
| *** s1gk1ll_ has quit IRC | 10:23 | |
| *** maxorator has joined #jollamobile | 10:24 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 10:25 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 10:29 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:29 | |
| Scelt | is mr. basil in the irc? | 10:30 |
| Scelt | system monitor is awesome but I'd like to have the memory usage too | 10:30 |
| *** Sequenced has quit IRC | 10:31 | |
| * tbr doesn't mention the war | 10:32 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
| *** artemma has joined #jollamobile | 10:33 | |
| *** jreznik_ has quit IRC | 10:34 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:35 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has joined #jollamobile | 10:37 | |
| *** Adityab_ has joined #jollamobile | 10:38 | |
| *** Adityab has quit IRC | 10:38 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has quit IRC | 10:40 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has joined #jollamobile | 10:40 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 10:42 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:43 | |
| *** spiiroin has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:50 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 10:56 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:56 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** emaj_ has joined #jollamobile | 10:59 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 11:02 | |
| *** KaIRC has joined #jollamobile | 11:02 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 11:02 | |
| *** inte is now known as inte_away | 11:02 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 11:02 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin has quit IRC | 11:05 | |
| *** birdzhang has joined #jollamobile | 11:05 | |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 11:07 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 11:07 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #jollamobile | 11:08 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 11:11 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 11:11 | |
| *** spiiroin has joined #jollamobile | 11:12 | |
| *** Kabouik has joined #jollamobile | 11:14 | |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 11:16 | |
| *** stezz has joined #jollamobile | 11:16 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has quit IRC | 11:18 | |
| *** Behold has joined #jollamobile | 11:19 | |
| *** emaj_ has quit IRC | 11:20 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 11:21 | |
| *** inte` has joined #jollamobile | 11:22 | |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 11:24 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #jollamobile | 11:25 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 11:25 | |
| *** sameo_ has joined #jollamobile | 11:29 | |
| r0kk3rz | i swear it has memory usage | 11:29 |
| *** inte` is now known as inte | 11:30 | |
| *** sameo has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| ggabriel | hi | 11:35 |
| ggabriel | long time :) | 11:35 |
| stephg | o/ | 11:36 |
| *** Swan_Z has quit IRC | 11:37 | |
| *** imunsie has quit IRC | 11:38 | |
| tbr | gah, I had totally forgotten how much the original metawatch android app sucks | 11:40 |
| inte | tbr: you have a metawatch? | 11:41 |
| inte | I like that thing but it seems there is no app for Jolla at present... | 11:41 |
| inte | and afaik bluetooth does still not work with android apps | 11:41 |
| tbr | inte: upcoming, I have it paired already | 11:42 |
| tbr | javispedro started working on it recently | 11:42 |
| inte | upcoming bluetooth-support for android or upcomming Metawatch-App for SailfishOS? | 11:43 |
| inte | :) | 11:43 |
| tbr | the metawatch app is working already | 11:43 |
| inte | I had a look at some attemptet porting efforts for this MeeGo-Metawatch App but development seemed ceased | 11:44 |
| inte | but that sounds cool | 11:44 |
| tbr | well, I did some work on porting it, but got stalled in, I think, the bluetooth code | 11:44 |
| * inte will check ebay for a metawatch as soon as it is supported on SailfishOS | 11:45 | |
| tbr | inte: whereabouts? | 11:45 |
| inte | so javispedro took over? | 11:45 |
| inte | whereabouts? what do you mean? | 11:45 |
| tbr | the meego app was also his, so he basically resumed work. I think he's largely rewriting it though | 11:45 |
| tbr | inte: where are you based? | 11:45 |
| inte | Germany | 11:46 |
| inte | sounds cool | 11:46 |
| tbr | inte: look at Reichelt. Friend mentioned that they are selling the FRAME model for 90€ at the moment | 11:46 |
| *** Marc1 has quit IRC | 11:46 | |
| tbr | "btw, Reichelt verkloppt die Frame momentan für 90EUR! (*snyff*)" | 11:47 |
| Nicd- | wow the Metawatch display looks terrible | 11:48 |
| Nicd- | but at least it gets a decent battery life | 11:48 |
| tbr | Nicd-: you get used to it real quick. at first it was a bit weird, but after an hour you "hold it right" without noticing | 11:48 |
| tbr | daylight readability is very good | 11:49 |
| Nicd- | yeah, but compare it to other "smart" watches with retina displays... | 11:49 |
| tbr | and 3h battery life | 11:49 |
| Nicd- | problem with those seems to be you can just about make it one day before recharging | 11:49 |
| tadzik | speaking of these smart watches, any pebble users around? | 11:49 |
| tbr | tadzik: yeah, smoku w tym grzebie | 11:50 |
| tadzik | heh | 11:50 |
| tadzik | I was wondering about he jolla experience, I saw at least two things being developed on openrepos | 11:51 |
| inte | tbr: thanks for the hint | 11:52 |
| inte | however, the price is not 90€ | 11:53 |
| tbr | inte: maybe sale ended then | 11:53 |
| inte | its 79€ for the Frame and 49€ for the Strata | 11:53 |
| tbr | LOL | 11:53 |
| inte | cool | 11:53 |
| inte | i guess ill get the frame | 11:54 |
| tbr | better not tell my friend, he'd start crying | 11:54 |
| inte | the stata is somewhat ugly | 11:54 |
| inte | :) | 11:54 |
| tbr | yes, I waited 3 months and paid more just to get a FRAME instead of that rubber duck | 11:54 |
| tbr | it looks like a decent watch and feels very good, like a regular watch | 11:55 |
| * tbr should tell the sailfish-berlin people to get in on the deal too | 11:55 | |
| tbr | inte: have an url at hand? | 11:55 |
| inte | http://www.reichelt.de/METAWATCH-FRAME/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=446&ARTICLE=142413&artnr=METAWATCH+FRAME&SEARCH=metawatch | 11:55 |
| *** vode has quit IRC | 11:56 | |
| tbr | tnx | 11:56 |
| *** stezz has quit IRC | 12:00 | |
| inte | tbr: https://www.google.de/search?q=metawatch+frame&client=firefox-a&hs=dZN&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.74649129%2Cd.bGQ%2Cpv.xjs.s.de.Jz_Qn50LY3c.O&biw=1366&bih=591&ech=1&psi=LjsQVL76G-HmyQPXsIHYBg.1410349892022.3&ei=LjsQVL76G-HmyQPXsIHYBg&emsg=NCSR&noj=1 | 12:02 |
| inte | 90euro bei conrad | 12:02 |
| *** tomcat_berlin has joined #jollamobile | 12:03 | |
| inte | tbr: check at http://www.guenstiger.de/Produkt/Texas_Instruments/Metawatch.html you can even get it for 69.90 | 12:04 |
| tbr | 2late, schon verzwitschert | 12:04 |
| *** birdzhang has quit IRC | 12:04 | |
| tbr | inte: 70 fuer ne strata? meh, reichelt hat die fuer 50 | 12:05 |
| *** stezz has joined #jollamobile | 12:05 | |
| inte | yeah sorry just saw it too | 12:05 |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 12:05 | |
| tbr | https://twitter.com/tbr23/status/509673652485255168 if anyone was wondering | 12:08 |
| *** gexc has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| inte | tbr: official price is 79 now | 12:09 |
| inte | http://www.metawatch.eu/de/collection | 12:09 |
| Teme | why is all of this in german ._. | 12:09 |
| inte | there is a new metawatch (m1) in the works | 12:09 |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 12:09 | |
| tbr | yeah, was guessing, that the M1 launch would push the price down | 12:10 |
| inte | ...which is somewhat ugly as well | 12:10 |
| tbr | but TBH I don't like its looks | 12:10 |
| tbr | hehe | 12:10 |
| inte | its even cheaper than reichelt at the official site because they dont charge for shipping | 12:11 |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 12:12 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #jollamobile | 12:15 | |
| *** eleroux has quit IRC | 12:16 | |
| tbr | inte: mh, some adento company behind that eu domain, weird | 12:18 |
| inte | what is adento? | 12:19 |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| tbr | inte: http://www.metawatch.eu/en/imprint | 12:21 |
| tbr | I suspect it's an outsourced distribution provider | 12:22 |
| r0kk3rz | i rather like the cook of the moto 360, except the current implementation is poor | 12:23 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe the next release might not be so compromised | 12:23 |
| r0kk3rz | *look | 12:23 |
| tbr | it's a wrist mounted TI silicon museum though | 12:23 |
| tadzik | where do you see that €79 for frame? | 12:25 |
| tbr | tadzik: both the metawatch.eu and the reichelt shops | 12:27 |
| tbr | reichelt also has the rubber version (strata) for 50 | 12:28 |
| *** gexc has joined #jollamobile | 12:28 | |
| *** killSwam has quit IRC | 12:29 | |
| inte | the new samsung watch seems also interesting since it runs tizen | 12:29 |
| inte | and its not soo ugly | 12:29 |
| *** eleroux has joined #jollamobile | 12:30 | |
| *** rigo has joined #jollamobile | 12:30 | |
| tbr | it didn't appeal much to me | 12:30 |
| tbr | also I'm kinda weary of watches that have 1d battery life | 12:31 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: thats the point, the design is great, the implementation can be better | 12:32 |
| *** stezz has quit IRC | 12:32 | |
| * tbr patpats his metawatch | 12:33 | |
| *** lainwir3d has joined #jollamobile | 12:33 | |
| *** lainwir3d has quit IRC | 12:33 | |
| *** lainwir3d has joined #jollamobile | 12:33 | |
| *** lainwir3d__ has quit IRC | 12:33 | |
| inte | how long does the battery last? | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i also like how the facebook 'trending topic' called the "Apple Watch" the "iWatch" | 12:34 |
| inte | of the metabox? | 12:34 |
| inte | r0kk3rz: if really dislike the apple watch | 12:34 |
| inte | its ugly | 12:35 |
| inte | the only smartwatch that looks somewhat like a watch is the new LG watch | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, its not a great device by the looks of it | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | especially the iKnob | 12:35 |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 12:35 | |
| tbr | I get almost a week out of the metawatch with no bluetooth, less with stuff going on. vibra, etc cuts into your battery life | 12:36 |
| inte | however, it runs android wear which is closed source and therefore cant be connected to the jolla | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | a week, thats pretty good | 12:36 |
| inte | tbr: well id think bluetooth is mandatory | 12:36 |
| inte | at least if you want it too be smart :) | 12:36 |
| tadzik | tbr: which one do you have; would you buy it again? | 12:36 |
| tbr | tadzik: FRAME, black. paid probably close to 200€ for it | 12:37 |
| inte | sed s/too/to/g | 12:37 |
| tadzik | wow | 12:37 |
| tbr | tadzik: I'd buy it immediately | 12:37 |
| tadzik | tbr: any existing way to make it speak to sailfish?> | 12:37 |
| inte | tbr: how long does it last with bluetooth switched on? | 12:37 |
| tbr | inte: hard to say, that's what I was trying to convey. I haven't had it properly connected for longer periods of time since I retiered my N950 | 12:38 |
| tbr | tadzik: yes, javispedro is working on that. Time sync already works, more to come soon | 12:38 |
| *** stezz has joined #jollamobile | 12:40 | |
| r0kk3rz | make an xbee toh and roll your own microcontroller watch, that could be a fun project | 12:40 |
| *** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile | 12:41 | |
| inte | btw, regarding tohs, is there a usb-host toh available now from anyone? | 12:41 |
| inte | i once heard it was in the works | 12:42 |
| r0kk3rz | not that ive seen | 12:42 |
| r0kk3rz | it'd be slow though | 12:42 |
| tbr | inte: first you'd need working usb host | 12:42 |
| r0kk3rz | i2c isnt known for massive throughput | 12:42 |
| inte | yeah thats why they wanted to implenent it through i2c | 12:43 |
| tbr | ERMAGHED, NOPE! | 12:43 |
| inte | well the inbuild usb is not usbhost-capable afail | 12:43 |
| tbr | inte: it is | 12:43 |
| inte | well the inbuild usb is not usbhost-capable afail | 12:43 |
| inte | well the inbuild usb is not usbhost-capable afaik | 12:43 |
| inte | oh | 12:43 |
| tbr | people spread crap, film at 11 | 12:43 |
| inte | so why is no one releasing a patch now? I thought it was the same problem as it was with the N9 | 12:44 |
| tbr | similar | 12:44 |
| inte | spead is not to much an issue if you only use it for reading pgp-keys | 12:44 |
| inte | or smartcards | 12:44 |
| inte | tbr: cant follow | 12:45 |
| inte | if its not a hardware issue it could be solved by software but it isnt because of... no one working on it? | 12:45 |
| tbr | on the N9 it was also just not enabled, but there was also a second charging chip that would have needed to be disabled and DSME neutered | 12:45 |
| inte | there were patches for the n900 a few month after it was released | 12:45 |
| tbr | inte: on the jolla there is no such problem, all it needs is someone who knows how to whip a kernel into submission | 12:46 |
| r0kk3rz | can the JPhone supply power out the usb connection? | 12:46 |
| tbr | inte: the N900 was a completely different fuckup on hardware level necessitating a hyper ugly workaround | 12:46 |
| r0kk3rz | without that usbhost will be pretty limited | 12:46 |
| inte | tbr whatever that means:) | 12:46 |
| tbr | inte: they bitbanged USB host by putting the PHY in test mode on the N900 | 12:46 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: no, the port can not supply power. you will need to inject that yourself | 12:47 |
| inte | tbr will the power last du read out usb-massstorage e.g. sticks | 12:47 |
| tbr | anyone is free to make USB host mode work on the jolla. the sources are there | 12:47 |
| *** motalc^ has joined #jollamobile | 12:47 | |
| inte | sed s/du/to/g | 12:48 |
| tbr | inte: there is NO power, you need to "bring your own" | 12:48 |
| *** lainwir3d has quit IRC | 12:48 | |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats a big ugly, but doable. toh with plug to power pins, y join cable | 12:48 |
| tbr | e.g. by a Y-cable or by plugging a hub in | 12:48 |
| r0kk3rz | maaaaaybe | 12:48 |
| *** lainwir3d has joined #jollamobile | 12:48 | |
| inte | tbr: I dont even know if there is power necessary to read out a usbstick at all | 12:48 |
| *** motalc has quit IRC | 12:48 | |
| tbr | inte: yes it is | 12:48 |
| *** Sailor6916_ has quit IRC | 12:48 | |
| inte | its not a harddrive after all | 12:48 |
| tbr | still it needs power to work | 12:49 |
| tbr | it doesn't work on warm feelings | 12:49 |
| inte | well than it IS a hardware limitation | 12:49 |
| r0kk3rz | magical NAND pixies | 12:49 |
| inte | how did they get that work on the N900 ? | 12:49 |
| inte | that hardware was capable of bringing power to usb? | 12:49 |
| tbr | I don't remember if they were lucky and could get the charge pump working | 12:49 |
| *** cristi has joined #jollamobile | 12:50 | |
| tbr | still, injecting 5V is no rocket-surgery and can be made quite small | 12:50 |
| inte | hey, couldnt that work on the jolla as well? | 12:50 |
| tbr | 'no' | 12:50 |
| inte | well if your on the go | 12:50 |
| tbr | (someone apparently checked the schematic) | 12:50 |
| tbr | inte: peruse the searchengine of your least distrust "lipstick usb power bank" | 12:51 |
| tbr | Nokia even made one that would probably work as an injector out of the box | 12:51 |
| inte | so apart from the software it would also be needed to grep the 3,3v from the toh connector and connect it between usbport and -stick | 12:52 |
| inte | i have a power bank as well | 12:52 |
| inte | supplies 2.2a and 1a | 12:52 |
| tbr | well use that then to provide 5V | 12:52 |
| inte | i never dare to charge my jolla with 2.2a as the specs say it would only accept 1a | 12:52 |
| tbr | that's bullshit | 12:53 |
| inte | did anyone ever try that? | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | the vout for the toh is 3.3v | 12:53 |
| tbr | the phone will take whatever it needs | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | and fused to 300ma | 12:53 |
| tbr | and the 3.3V is far from ideal. it's not good for load and you need to step up to 5V | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | and recommended to not continually exceed 150ma | 12:53 |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #jollamobile | 12:53 | |
| tbr | I _highly_ recommend to go the "power bank" route | 12:53 |
| inte | mh the 300ma could be limiting then | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | otherwise things get warm | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | so yeah, might need an aux battery | 12:54 |
| inte | well shouldnt jolla be able to provide a usb-host driver since they know all the specs? | 12:54 |
| tbr | http://www.nokia.com/global/products/accessory/dc-16/ | 12:55 |
| tbr | that would probably "just work" as an injector and is very pocketable | 12:55 |
| r0kk3rz | well at least a "is this even possible" answer, even if they dont put in the work | 12:55 |
| *** reviewjolla_J has quit IRC | 12:55 | |
| tbr | at this point I'm going to point to TJC as this was discussed there | 12:57 |
| inte | tbr: I guess, in brief, Jolla is just not into it | 12:57 |
| tbr | also disclosure: I've spent an evening with phdeswer (a sailor) hacking on the kernel and trying to understand the driver. | 12:57 |
| inte | right? | 12:57 |
| phdeswer | yep we did | 12:58 |
| tbr | inte: nope, jolla a) tried to get host mode, but there was no way to fit it into the device b) researched and checked the possibilities c) willing to help out the community | 12:58 |
| * inte has a powerbank from pearl.de which is working as well | 12:59 | |
| phdeswer | inte: to be honest we don't have the specs. | 12:59 |
| inte | ah cool | 12:59 |
| inte | thanks for the background info | 12:59 |
| tbr | Qualcomm is very closed with their specs | 12:59 |
| inte | then i will just wait and see what will happen | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a shame | 12:59 |
| tbr | so kicking the driver into submission is a lengthy process | 13:00 |
| phdeswer | inte: tbr and I tried to get the device to switch but we only got to the bus going dead. | 13:00 |
| tbr | as you'd need to rip out the OTG state machine and make the hardware go into the right state | 13:00 |
| tbr | with trial and error | 13:00 |
| tbr | as there might be some things that the hardware does by itself | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like a lot of hitting against brick walls | 13:01 |
| tbr | so, yes, it's possible, but sadly it's not trivial | 13:01 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: it just needs someone with lots of spare time on their hands | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | keep running into the wall until you find the door | 13:01 |
| tbr | as you need to build the kernel, boot the device, try it, rinse, repeat | 13:01 |
| * inte still looks for a way to read his gnupg smartcard from the jolla phone | 13:02 | |
| r0kk3rz | ive got lots of spare time, not a huge amount of experience with the linux kernel though | 13:02 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. none | 13:02 |
| inte | im not feeling so well copying my keys to .gnupg | 13:02 |
| tbr | inte: i²c connected card reader might work better there | 13:02 |
| *** bef0rd has quit IRC | 13:02 | |
| inte | i couldn find any i2c connected card reader that is supported by gnupg | 13:03 |
| r0kk3rz | you can have a EEPROM chip toh to store the keys on | 13:03 |
| tbr | heh, yeah, obviously you'd need to write your own driver | 13:03 |
| inte | hehe | 13:03 |
| *** Behold has quit IRC | 13:04 | |
| inte | funny enough there are always certain chipsets needed to read out pgp-cards and neither of them seems to have a build-in i2c bus | 13:04 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd need a microcontroller in the toh to do the smartcarding | 13:05 |
| inte | there are i2c readers available which connect directly to i2c but cant read any cards except for i2c storage cards | 13:05 |
| r0kk3rz | then relay over i2c | 13:05 |
| inte | r0kk3rz: jep but that is *slightly* above my limits | 13:06 |
| inte | therefore, usb-host and usb-gpgkey | 13:06 |
| *** FiSHBoY has joined #jollamobile | 13:07 | |
| r0kk3rz | there are tutorials around for using smart card readers with arduino | 13:07 |
| *** Kabouik_ has joined #jollamobile | 13:08 | |
| r0kk3rz | havent looked into using arduinos with the Jolla, as i think they can only be i2c master | 13:08 |
| inte | saw some of them, but they where mostly for reading simple i2c cards | 13:08 |
| r0kk3rz | oh ok | 13:09 |
| inte | my idea was to simply order one of these internal smartcard reader modules like this one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Towitoko-SCM-Smart-Card-Reader-intern-seriell-/151382946957?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item233f20748d | 13:10 |
| *** Mr_K has joined #jollamobile | 13:10 | |
| inte | they seem to have uart | 13:10 |
| inte | then convert uart to i2c and plug it to the jolla | 13:10 |
| *** martyone has quit IRC | 13:10 | |
| inte | dont know if it is feasible though | 13:11 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i've been meaning to experiment with a UART bridge | 13:11 |
| *** Kabouik has quit IRC | 13:11 | |
| r0kk3rz | i want to connect a 10hz gps module to i2c | 13:11 |
| inte | well maybe youre more lucky with that | 13:12 |
| tbr | there are I²C UART expanders IIRC | 13:12 |
| inte | tbr: yes | 13:12 |
| tbr | I still have some devaamo myTOHs if someone needs / is interested. Will part against 2€ and p&p | 13:13 |
| kimmoli | i have all the parts for tohuart in a box... | 13:13 |
| kimmoli | pcb layout unfinished | 13:13 |
| r0kk3rz | i need to finish mine off | 13:13 |
| r0kk3rz | just needs a plug putting on the wires | 13:13 |
| r0kk3rz | and then to buy the chip breakouts | 13:14 |
| kimmoli | sounds like more "start" than "finish" :) | 13:14 |
| *** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile | 13:15 | |
| r0kk3rz | well, yeah | 13:15 |
| r0kk3rz | my hacked version of a 'mytoh' finished | 13:15 |
| kimmoli | when you are finalizing it for mass-production, ping me to get eeprom VID/PID ... | 13:15 |
| inte | tbr: can you please msg me in German what exactly you have for sale? | 13:15 |
| r0kk3rz | then the real fun begins | 13:15 |
| r0kk3rz | have you looked into getting injection molded toh's for production kimmoli? | 13:16 |
| kimmoli | i did have a peek for some chinese mfg, but makes no sense for 50-100 pcs yet | 13:16 |
| kimmoli | unit price is really low, mold/tooling costs few k€ typically, depends how many parts it needs to survive | 13:17 |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 13:17 | |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 13:18 | |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, thats why you'd try and finalize the plastic design | 13:18 |
| r0kk3rz | even if the software/electronics werent completely sorted | 13:19 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought about selling PC coloured dumbcovers to get started | 13:19 |
| r0kk3rz | since aside from the ones jolla is selling, nobody is making cheap cases to hack | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | the shapeways one is 'ok' but not that cheap, and I havent had any luck 3d printing my own yet | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | but havent spent too long trying | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | my first attempt came out a couple of mm short | 13:22 |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 13:24 | |
| *** radekp has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
| *** imunsie has joined #jollamobile | 13:26 | |
| kimmoli | ok | 13:28 |
| kimmoli | my generics for printing tohs at shapewasy are now kinda ok | 13:28 |
| kimmoli | i was asked for genenric-hack-toh which allows hiding own breadboardstuff few days ago | 13:29 |
| *** imunsie has quit IRC | 13:30 | |
| *** stezz has quit IRC | 13:31 | |
| coderus | kimmoli: transparent hacking toh please :F | 13:32 |
| tbr | kimmoli: time to open a shapeways "shop" me thinks :) | 13:33 |
| *** jjanvier_ has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
| *** cristi has joined #jollamobile | 13:36 | |
| *** rigo has quit IRC | 13:38 | |
| r0kk3rz | shapeways takes weeks though | 13:39 |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 13:39 | |
| meklu | woah, they have metal prints | 13:40 |
| meklu | not of tohs, but still | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | ive got designs for a generic hack toh | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | just a basic circuit board pinout, then stick a small breadboard on the back | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | basic, but functional | 13:41 |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #jollamobile | 13:41 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| *** KhertanAtwork has joined #jollamobile | 13:50 | |
| *** KhertanAtwork has left #jollamobile | 13:50 | |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: like this https://github.com/kimmoli/devaamoMyhalf | 13:56 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 13:57 |
| r0kk3rz | but a lot simpler | 13:57 |
| tbr | how much simpler can it get? | 13:58 |
| r0kk3rz | suitable for etching yourself | 13:58 |
| kimmoli | included basic stuff there, levelconverter 1,8v regulator, eeprom | 13:58 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah mine is literally just a pinout | 13:58 |
| *** dr_gogeta86 has joined #jollamobile | 13:58 | |
| *** misprint has joined #jollamobile | 13:59 | |
| r0kk3rz | etch yourself, stick it to a standard TOH, solder on a header connector | 14:00 |
| r0kk3rz | which is about as simple as it can get, to answer your question tbr | 14:01 |
| tbr | one sided layout? | 14:03 |
| r0kk3rz | yep | 14:03 |
| tbr | *nod* | 14:03 |
| r0kk3rz | care taken to not short out on anything, but it can be painted i guess | 14:04 |
| r0kk3rz | so long as you mask the pogopin pads | 14:04 |
| r0kk3rz | or re-etch using a laser cutter | 14:04 |
| *** inte is now known as inte_away | 14:06 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 14:07 | |
| *** gexc has quit IRC | 14:07 | |
| *** rigo has joined #jollamobile | 14:07 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 14:09 | |
| r0kk3rz | that said, if you want to post me one of kimmoli's ones, 2E is more than a fair price | 14:11 |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 14:14 | |
| kimmoli | i could amke 3d model for myHalf with cavity for own elec. | 14:14 |
| kimmoli | s/typos/correct/ | 14:15 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 14:15 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 14:16 | |
| *** Shihua has joined #jollamobile | 14:17 | |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i'm sure there would be demand for some kind of starters kit | 14:18 |
| r0kk3rz | for those without 3d printers, etc | 14:18 |
| Shihua | I'm not a developer.But I know this from some developers. they said that the messages phone and | 14:20 |
| Shihua | not open source | 14:21 |
| tadzik | I have no idea what you just said | 14:22 |
| *** inte` has joined #jollamobile | 14:22 | |
| *** killSwam has joined #jollamobile | 14:23 | |
| Shihua | you can understand my meaning?sorry.my English like shit. | 14:24 |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 14:25 | |
| Shihua | for example.,the native message app doesn't support api in sdk. | 14:28 |
| *** eleroux has quit IRC | 14:28 | |
| Shihua | why this? | 14:28 |
| *** inte` is now known as inte_away | 14:28 | |
| r0kk3rz | this was talked about in the meeting yesterday | 14:28 |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 14:28 | |
| r0kk3rz | theres minutes around somewhere | 14:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but not that much was said | 14:29 |
| *** Sail0r has quit IRC | 14:29 | |
| *** tomyri has quit IRC | 14:30 | |
| *** Mr_K_ has joined #jollamobile | 14:31 | |
| *** Mr_K has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| Shihua | you talk about yesterday .but why? | 14:32 |
| *** Mr_K_ is now known as Mr_K | 14:33 | |
| r0kk3rz | http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-09-09-15.00.html | 14:33 |
| r0kk3rz | because someone raised this exact question in the meeting yesterday | 14:34 |
| r0kk3rz | so i figured that was relevant | 14:34 |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 14:34 | |
| Shihua | some functions in my country is not good for local. | 14:34 |
| *** VDVsx has joined #jollamobile | 14:34 | |
| Shihua | offical not give a result about this? | 14:35 |
| r0kk3rz | they said they would look into openning it up | 14:36 |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 14:36 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 14:36 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #jollamobile | 14:37 | |
| *** Mr_K_ has joined #jollamobile | 14:37 | |
| Shihua | some developers there want to do some simple apps for local people to used to Jolla. the api stop them. | 14:38 |
| *** Lancer has joined #jollamobile | 14:38 | |
| *** planasb_ has quit IRC | 14:39 | |
| *** Mr_K has quit IRC | 14:39 | |
| *** Mr_K has joined #jollamobile | 14:40 | |
| *** bloodhoof has joined #jollamobile | 14:41 | |
| r0kk3rz | submit your ideas as feature requests on TJC | 14:41 |
| *** planasb has joined #jollamobile | 14:41 | |
| *** planasb has quit IRC | 14:41 | |
| *** planasb has joined #jollamobile | 14:41 | |
| r0kk3rz | if they're core things needed for language support, then they belong in the core os | 14:41 |
| *** tomyri has joined #jollamobile | 14:42 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| *** Mr_K_ has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 14:43 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 14:43 | |
| *** Sequenced has joined #jollamobile | 14:45 | |
| *** jmlich has joined #jollamobile | 14:46 | |
| Shihua | just some api .why will be about core ?sailfiah os open source.they said. | 14:46 |
| *** cb400f has joined #jollamobile | 14:47 | |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
| SK_work | Shihua: the problem of opening full core for harbour is that it can binary break | 14:48 |
| SK_work | you are not forbidded to dynamically / statically link the core libs :) | 14:48 |
| Shihua | Your meaning is if support that.it is possible to make Jolla not safe ? | 14:52 |
| SK_work | Shihua: no | 14:55 |
| *** Sailor3943_ has joined #jollamobile | 14:55 | |
| SK_work | please read about binary compatibility | 14:55 |
| Shihua | simple. thanks. | 14:55 |
| SK_work | because the mw is likely to be changed, they cannot allow all libs | 14:55 |
| SK_work | you can still embed your libs (so it is your responsibility to make everything work) | 14:56 |
| *** bloodhoof has quit IRC | 14:58 | |
| *** Shinryuu has joined #jollamobile | 14:58 | |
| *** jreznik_ has joined #jollamobile | 15:00 | |
| Shihua | o.o | 15:00 |
| SK_work | Shihua: what's the issue ? | 15:01 |
| Shihua | sorry I translate your words.but on understanding | 15:01 |
| SK_work | a lot of people embed nemo middleware in their apps for harbour | 15:01 |
| SK_work | ah | 15:01 |
| SK_work | know how dynamically linked libs works ? | 15:01 |
| Shihua | no. | 15:01 |
| SK_work | basically, your program search for the symbols in the libs in a certain place and call them. Even if the symbol moved, the program will call the address, leading to crash usually | 15:02 |
| SK_work | binary compatibility = the symbols don't move even if symbols are added / removed / changed in the dynamically linked lib | 15:02 |
| SK_work | eg Qt have ascending binary compatibility inside major version | 15:02 |
| SK_work | you build + link with Qt 5.1, you got your app working with 5.2 without recompiling | 15:03 |
| SK_work | problem, Jolla engineers need to have flexibility to change middleware as they enhance SFOS or fix bugs | 15:03 |
| SK_work | so they don't guarantee binary compatibility on any middleware lib | 15:03 |
| SK_work | so they are forbidden in Harbour, as if someone link on the MW, for the next version of SFOS it can break | 15:04 |
| *** Tofe is now known as Tofe|Away | 15:04 | |
| SK_work | but if you embed your own version of these libs, it is your responsibility to recompile if the lib changes etc, so it is your duty to guarantee the compatibility issues | 15:04 |
| SK_work | so you are allowed to ship your libs with a harbour app | 15:05 |
| *** friese has joined #jollamobile | 15:06 | |
| Shihua | Thanks for your answered. | 15:07 |
| *** thessy has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| SK_work | my pleasure :) | 15:09 |
| Shihua | thank to the language .I do not understand all your words .sorry very much. | 15:11 |
| SK_work | Shihua: don't worry | 15:11 |
| *** artemma has quit IRC | 15:12 | |
| SK_work | actually if someone don't understand, the best is to ask as I (and some others ?) tend to have tech language to answer tech questions | 15:12 |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 15:12 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 15:13 | |
| Shihua | Yeah. | 15:13 |
| *** Sailor3943_ has quit IRC | 15:14 | |
| Shihua | Iwant do something for Jolla just. but the input method is not usefulness. | 15:15 |
| SK_work | ha | 15:18 |
| SK_work | input methods | 15:18 |
| SK_work | indeed, that's a problem | 15:18 |
| SK_work | something not distributable from store at all :( | 15:18 |
| SK_work | Shihua: are you available for sailifhs community meeting | 15:18 |
| SK_work | discussing this with iekku or other store people could be nice | 15:19 |
| Shihua | I no chance | 15:19 |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| Shihua | In China. the input method is terrible. | 15:20 |
| Shihua | many words can not spell . | 15:21 |
| *** HarhaanJohtaja has joined #jollamobile | 15:23 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 15:23 | |
| Shihua | Lexicon is not complete. | 15:23 |
| Shihua | ususl is too busy. | 15:26 |
| SK_work | cybette: ^^ | 15:27 |
| SK_work | we have people complaining about getting a meeting in WE + people from CHN | 15:27 |
| SK_work | we need to not discriminate meetings | 15:27 |
| r0kk3rz | next meeting is in UTC+10 timezone slot | 15:29 |
| *** Behold has joined #jollamobile | 15:29 | |
| *** Behold has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
| *** Behold has joined #jollamobile | 15:29 | |
| r0kk3rz | should be better for HK folk | 15:29 |
| *** ecloud_ has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| SK_work | Shihua: ^? | 15:31 |
| SK_work | what do you think ? | 15:31 |
| Shihua | I think | 15:32 |
| Shihua | this | 15:32 |
| *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk | 15:32 | |
| r0kk3rz | anyway, Jolla chose to release the phone in Hong Kong with poor language support. so IMO its Jollas job to fix that, not the communities | 15:32 |
| SK_work | r0kk3rz: not exactly | 15:33 |
| SK_work | with community translation system in place, and maybe custom kbd, the community can help | 15:33 |
| SK_work | android's custom keyboard helped a lot | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | third-party input methods could be on their roadmap | 15:34 |
| r0kk3rz | its certainly becoming a common mobile os feature | 15:34 |
| r0kk3rz | even aapl are doing it | 15:35 |
| *** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile | 15:35 | |
| Shihua | I do not know how to answer you. | 15:36 |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 15:36 | |
| SK_work | r0kk3rz: discussing about how they plan to do it could be nice | 15:37 |
| r0kk3rz | might be a topic for the next meeting, if it hasnt already been discussed somewhere else | 15:38 |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| Shihua | The meeting of HK ,I did not go there. | 15:41 |
| Shihua | but I got T-shirt. | 15:42 |
| Shihua | hh | 15:42 |
| r0kk3rz | Shihua: its an IRC meeting | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | next one is two weeks away in UTC+10 Time Zone | 15:43 |
| dunp | http://www.dailydot.com/crime/google-gmail-5-million-passwords-leaked/ | 15:43 |
| Shihua | wow,you gone there? | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | is in #mer-meeting here on freenode | 15:44 |
| *** jjanvier_ has joined #jollamobile | 15:44 | |
| *** cameris has joined #jollamobile | 15:45 | |
| Shihua | I am too busy .so do not join them. | 15:46 |
| *** Shinryuu has quit IRC | 15:48 | |
| *** varikonniemi has quit IRC | 15:48 | |
| Shihua | tonight is rare for chat with you. haha | 15:49 |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 15:50 | |
| Shihua | here is dark .I must sleep .goodnight e | 15:51 |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 15:51 | |
| *** Shihua has quit IRC | 15:54 | |
| *** motalb has quit IRC | 15:55 | |
| *** EaxBin has joined #jollamobile | 15:56 | |
| *** artemma has joined #jollamobile | 15:56 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 15:57 | |
| *** emaj has quit IRC | 15:57 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 15:59 | |
| *** cb400f has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 16:02 | |
| *** kunev has quit IRC | 16:02 | |
| *** Mr_K has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** thessy has joined #jollamobile | 16:06 | |
| *** EaxBin has quit IRC | 16:07 | |
| *** Marc1 has joined #jollamobile | 16:08 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin has quit IRC | 16:09 | |
| *** jpnurmi has quit IRC | 16:10 | |
| *** jpnurmi has joined #jollamobile | 16:10 | |
| *** Nightmare__ has joined #jollamobile | 16:11 | |
| *** motalb has joined #jollamobile | 16:12 | |
| *** thessy has quit IRC | 16:14 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 16:15 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #jollamobile | 16:16 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** artemma has quit IRC | 16:20 | |
| *** cb400f has joined #jollamobile | 16:23 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** rigo has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile | 16:30 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 16:36 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 16:37 | |
| *** jreznik_ is now known as jreznik | 16:46 | |
| *** Shinryuu has joined #jollamobile | 16:50 | |
| *** attah has joined #jollamobile | 16:54 | |
| attah | chem|st: ping | 16:54 |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 16:54 | |
| *** msava has joined #jollamobile | 16:57 | |
| *** Adityab_ has quit IRC | 16:57 | |
| *** norayr has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| *** jjanvier_ has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| *** Kilroo has quit IRC | 17:14 | |
| *** Sequenced has quit IRC | 17:16 | |
| *** cameris has quit IRC | 17:16 | |
| *** Mossepo has joined #jollamobile | 17:18 | |
| *** dunp has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 17:20 | |
| *** dunp has joined #jollamobile | 17:21 | |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 17:22 | |
| *** sletta has joined #jollamobile | 17:27 | |
| *** sletta has quit IRC | 17:28 | |
| *** Porkepix has joined #jollamobile | 17:31 | |
| *** lainwir3d_ has joined #jollamobile | 17:31 | |
| *** lainwir3d has quit IRC | 17:31 | |
| *** Kilroo has joined #jollamobile | 17:31 | |
| *** lainwir3d__ has joined #jollamobile | 17:35 | |
| *** lainwir3d_ has quit IRC | 17:36 | |
| *** vode has joined #jollamobile | 17:40 | |
| iekku | damn, i missed good conversation :( | 17:43 |
| *** lainwir3d__ has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 17:57 | |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 17:59 | |
| *** cb400f has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** cb400f has joined #jollamobile | 18:01 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 18:02 | |
| *** jmlich has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| *** norayr has joined #jollamobile | 18:09 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 18:09 | |
| *** AlmAck has joined #jollamobile | 18:13 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 18:14 | |
| *** killSwam has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** cloanta has joined #jollamobile | 18:15 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 18:19 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 18:20 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 18:20 | |
| *** messerting has joined #jollamobile | 18:22 | |
| *** disharmonic has joined #jollamobile | 18:26 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #jollamobile | 18:32 | |
| *** ortylp has joined #jollamobile | 18:32 | |
| Shinryuu | :( | 18:32 |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 18:34 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 18:42 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 18:46 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 18:47 | |
| *** Eismann_ has joined #jollamobile | 18:51 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 18:51 | |
| *** Eismann has quit IRC | 18:51 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 18:55 | |
| tadzik | It puzzles me how people find it totally fine to either unslide your keyboard or detach TOH to take a fucking picture with your phone | 18:59 |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| *** Adityab_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:00 | |
| *** furikku has quit IRC | 19:01 | |
| *** Shinryuu_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:01 | |
| *** messerting has quit IRC | 19:02 | |
| r0kk3rz | how do you propose to get around that issue? | 19:02 |
| tadzik | I would have a slide-out keyboard where the slidey part is shorter than the phone itself, thus not overlapping the camera | 19:03 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:03 | |
| *** Shinryuu has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:04 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:04 | |
| r0kk3rz | kinda like the G1, yeah that would work | 19:05 |
| r0kk3rz | less room for the keyboard though | 19:05 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:05 | |
| kimmoli | ...but yuo can consider it as lens-protector (like in N900) | 19:07 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:07 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:09 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:09 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:10 | |
| tadzik | another thing I came up with is sliding it both ways, then you'd slide it "sideways" to uncover the camera | 19:10 |
| tadzik | and thus make it only a bit bigger, not almost twice as wide | 19:10 |
| tadzik | then again, I don't mean to agree with one's design philosophy, I'm just genuinely surprised how it only seems to bother me in the whole world | 19:11 |
| kimmoli | :) | 19:11 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:11 | |
| attah | tadzik: that lengthways slide sounds like a cool idea! (and plausible i assume) | 19:12 |
| r0kk3rz | would have to be one funky mechanism to allow that | 19:13 |
| tadzik | it's already magnet-based | 19:13 |
| kimmoli | there is just small issues with that in the current design.. | 19:13 |
| tadzik | I guess it's too late to bring it up in the current stage of construction | 19:13 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:13 | |
| kimmoli | need some extra magnets to align to this fourth position | 19:13 |
| *** [Afk]GsC_RuL3Z is now known as GsC_RuL3Z | 19:14 | |
| tadzik | I also don't remember my tmo password :P | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | moar magnets | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | MOAR | 19:14 |
| *** ln- has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| tadzik | every problem can be solved with another layer of magnets | 19:14 |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| kimmoli | and then you wonder why your jolla gets stuck in escalator | 19:14 |
| tadzik | heheh | 19:14 |
| attah | ...and you along with it | 19:15 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:15 | |
| kimmoli | those magnets are evil, if you allow them to go together freely, they'll "explode" into pieces. | 19:16 |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:16 | |
| tadzik | heheh | 19:16 |
| tadzik | it is a clever hack though, my uttermost respect | 19:16 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:17 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:19 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:19 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:20 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:20 | |
| *** Kabouik_ has quit IRC | 19:21 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:21 | |
| *** jreznik has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:23 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:24 | |
| *** Mr_K_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:24 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 19:24 | |
| *** Mr_K_ is now known as Mr_K | 19:25 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 19:25 | |
| r0kk3rz | so does it not have a 'hinge' as such? | 19:25 |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:25 | |
| r0kk3rz | just a floating backplate? | 19:25 |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:26 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:27 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:27 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:28 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 19:29 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:29 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:29 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:30 | |
| *** norayr has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| *** jreznik has joined #jollamobile | 19:31 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:31 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:32 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ has quit IRC | 19:32 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 19:32 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:33 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:34 | |
| *** Kabouik has joined #jollamobile | 19:34 | |
| *** messerting has joined #jollamobile | 19:34 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:35 | |
| *** inte_away has quit IRC | 19:35 | |
| *** npm has joined #jollamobile | 19:39 | |
| *** Shinryuu_ has quit IRC | 19:40 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 19:40 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 19:40 | |
| *** Shinryuu has joined #jollamobile | 19:41 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 19:41 | |
| *** lbt has joined #jollamobile | 19:41 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 19:41 | |
| *** lbt has joined #jollamobile | 19:41 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 19:42 | |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 19:42 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 19:43 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 19:47 | |
| *** AlmAck has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| *** AlmAck has joined #jollamobile | 19:51 | |
| *** cloanta has quit IRC | 19:51 | |
| *** peppelak_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:54 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** peppelak_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 19:56 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** peppelak_ has joined #jollamobile | 19:57 | |
| *** DrainBamaged has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** onurati has joined #jollamobile | 19:58 | |
| *** peppelak_ is now known as peppelakappa | 19:59 | |
| *** r0kk3rz has quit IRC | 20:01 | |
| *** r0kk3rz has joined #jollamobile | 20:01 | |
| *** peppelak_ has joined #jollamobile | 20:02 | |
| *** Porkepix has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 20:04 | |
| *** attah has quit IRC | 20:05 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| *** vode has quit IRC | 20:07 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 20:08 | |
| *** AlmAck has quit IRC | 20:08 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 20:08 | |
| *** cb400f has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** AlmAck has joined #jollamobile | 20:11 | |
| *** friese has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| *** RoKenn has joined #jollamobile | 20:12 | |
| *** anonfriese has joined #jollamobile | 20:14 | |
| *** Adityab_ has quit IRC | 20:17 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 20:22 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 20:23 | |
| *** anonfriese has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| *** artemma has joined #jollamobile | 20:29 | |
| *** plfiorini has quit IRC | 20:30 | |
| *** emaj has joined #jollamobile | 20:36 | |
| *** FiSHBoY has quit IRC | 20:38 | |
| *** cb400f has joined #jollamobile | 20:44 | |
| *** dhbiker has quit IRC | 20:47 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has joined #jollamobile | 20:53 | |
| *** Porkepix has joined #jollamobile | 20:55 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 20:57 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 20:57 | |
| *** ortylp has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** Xeno_Jolla has quit IRC | 21:01 | |
| *** XenoPL has joined #jollamobile | 21:03 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 21:10 | |
| *** RoKenn has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| *** Mr_K has quit IRC | 21:18 | |
| *** emaj has quit IRC | 21:19 | |
| kimmoli | hmmm https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/myqblinks/iscent-smell-your-ringtone | 21:19 |
| raa700 | i love the smell of napalm whenever my phone rings | 21:22 |
| *** messerting has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| *** Lipevakala has joined #jollamobile | 21:24 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 21:28 | |
| *** Zotan has joined #jollamobile | 21:29 | |
| *** Lipevakala has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| *** Shinryuu has quit IRC | 21:31 | |
| *** HarhaanJohtaja has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** Mossepo has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 21:38 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 21:38 | |
| *** cb400f has quit IRC | 21:40 | |
| *** cxl000 has quit IRC | 21:40 | |
| *** Nightmare__ has quit IRC | 21:42 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 21:43 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 21:44 | |
| *** DrainBamaged has joined #jollamobile | 21:50 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 21:50 | |
| *** SpeedEvil has joined #jollamobile | 21:51 | |
| *** Morpog_PC__ has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** disharmonic has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| *** SK_work has quit IRC | 22:08 | |
| *** lbt has joined #jollamobile | 22:10 | |
| *** GsC_RuL3Z is now known as [Afk]GsC_RuL3Z | 22:12 | |
| *** jreznik has quit IRC | 22:14 | |
| *** onurati has quit IRC | 22:16 | |
| *** dr_ has joined #jollamobile | 22:16 | |
| *** peppelakappa has joined #jollamobile | 22:16 | |
| lpotter | I want my phone to smoke when it rings | 22:20 |
| dr_ | Twitter seam a battle field abou jolla doesn't it? | 22:20 |
| dr_ | Hi lpotter | 22:20 |
| dr_ | 9 o'clock there? | 22:21 |
| dr_ | Lpotter some ecig burner is faseable | 22:22 |
| dr_ | But is a bit unpractial | 22:22 |
| lpotter | I was thining more like stage fog | 22:22 |
| lpotter | thinking | 22:22 |
| dr_ | Hahhaa | 22:23 |
| dr_ | And some horror ringtones | 22:23 |
| lpotter | the more you shake it, the more it smokes :) | 22:23 |
| dr_ | Connman give you nightmares | 22:23 |
| dr_ | ? | 22:23 |
| lpotter | :) | 22:23 |
| lpotter | yes for nightmares | 22:24 |
| dr_ | Here also burners are high taxed | 22:25 |
| dr_ | But if I found some one used and kimmoli help me | 22:25 |
| dr_ | Let it smoke too | 22:25 |
| *** Shihua has joined #jollamobile | 22:28 | |
| *** Shihua has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** AlmAck has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| dr_ | U know why sometimes phone not ring but produce connection error spund while | 22:30 |
| dr_ | * sound when remote call is done? | 22:30 |
| *** uvatbc has joined #jollamobile | 22:33 | |
| *** joered has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| *** dr_ has quit IRC | 22:49 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin has joined #jollamobile | 22:50 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** spider-mario has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** lbt has joined #jollamobile | 22:55 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** lbt has joined #jollamobile | 22:55 | |
| *** blam has quit IRC | 23:03 | |
| *** Zotan has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** inte has joined #jollamobile | 23:16 | |
| *** inte has joined #jollamobile | 23:16 | |
| *** inte has quit IRC | 23:17 | |
| *** r0kk3rz has quit IRC | 23:17 | |
| *** beford has joined #jollamobile | 23:19 | |
| *** inte` has quit IRC | 23:19 | |
| *** inte_away has joined #jollamobile | 23:20 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 23:21 | |
| *** sameo_ has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin has quit IRC | 23:29 | |
| *** Behold has quit IRC | 23:34 | |
| *** goroboro has quit IRC | 23:34 | |
| *** Nav has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** artemma has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** Nav has joined #jollamobile | 23:38 | |
| *** sameo_ has joined #jollamobile | 23:39 | |
| *** blam has joined #jollamobile | 23:51 | |
| *** XenoPL has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
| *** peppelakappa has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!