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| Wnt | I added some contacts to my google account (that is set to two way contact sync on Jolla) about an hour ago using https://www.google.com/contacts but the contacts are not yet available on the phone | 07:36 |
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| Wnt | the Google account is in Available mode on the device. Is there a way to manually start the sync? | 07:36 |
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| rusty88 | settings->accoutnts->google | 07:42 |
| rusty88 | the pulldown menu has the sync option Wnt | 07:43 |
| Wnt | rusty88: Oh! :D thanks! | 07:43 |
| rusty88 | Wnt: yw ;) | 07:44 |
| Wnt | but still the new contacts won't appear on the phone :( | 07:48 |
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| tango_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y6PqQ1JnIA is lenovo copyin the TOH idea? | 08:28 |
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| Sail0r | hm steam does correctly trigger notifications on jolla | 10:56 |
| Sail0r | but tapatalk does not :x | 10:56 |
| Sail0r | but jolla does not group the steam notifications | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | hehe, my volume indicator got stuck on the screen | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | it kind of obscures things | 10:58 |
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| Sail0r | Yesterday I had the first reboot since the new phone arrived | 11:07 |
| Sail0r | hopefully it does not come back | 11:07 |
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| javispedro | so I guess the Jolla doesn't force-shutdown when the power button is held down? | 12:24 |
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| javispedro | Yesterday it's been the first time I've had to remove the battery on mine every since I got the replacement one on march | 12:25 |
| clau | doesn't it? I thought it works if you keep the power button pressed long enough | 12:25 |
| javispedro | how long are we talking about -- 15 secs? | 12:26 |
| Nicd- | it does | 12:26 |
| javispedro | I tried 30sec to no avail | 12:26 |
| Nicd- | or do you mean if it's stuck? | 12:26 |
| javispedro | yeah, stuck | 12:26 |
| clau | from where? lock screen? | 12:26 |
| javispedro | it was stuck on lock screen. dragging it would make the usual pulldown menu feedback (vibrator&noise) | 12:27 |
| javispedro | but the screen itself would not update | 12:27 |
| javispedro | short-pressing power button would turn screen on/off | 12:27 |
| clau | pull up from below | 12:27 |
| meklu | I had that sort of stuff once... | 12:27 |
| meklu | yeah, pulling from below I think fixed it | 12:27 |
| clau | it might be stuck in notifications screen | 12:27 |
| meklu | I was rather puzzled by the phenomenon | 12:27 |
| javispedro | clau: good point | 12:28 |
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| javispedro | clau, though, I think it would've turn off the normal way if it was stuck in notifications | 12:28 |
| javispedro | the thing is, I never realized it didn't have a hard-poweroff button.. | 12:29 |
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| AL13N_work | i though the powerbutton long press was using ACPI signals | 12:36 |
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| AL13N_work | so, a kernel panic would not have it work | 12:36 |
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| javispedro | ... ACPI on ARM? | 12:37 |
| AL13N_work | i meant, similar | 12:37 |
| AL13N_work | sorry | 12:37 |
| AL13N_work | i meant that i didn't think it used things like the SysReq keys | 12:38 |
| javispedro | sysrq keys are still software | 12:38 |
| AL13N_work | yes | 12:38 |
| AL13N_work | but those still work on kernel panic | 12:38 |
| javispedro | on most devices a long power key press is handled by hardware | 12:38 |
| javispedro | (or core firmware) | 12:39 |
| AL13N_work | well the detection of long press is firmware, so i doubt it could be hardware | 12:39 |
| AL13N_work | unless specific chip code, but then is that still hardware? | 12:39 |
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| javispedro | AL13N, many chips contain hardware to do this | 12:46 |
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| AL13N_work | yes | 12:47 |
| javispedro | because it would be useless as a reset mechanism if it didn't work with the CPU stuck | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | i wonder with all those reprogrammable and general purpose chips, at what point is it hardware or software? | 12:49 |
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| AL13N_work | especially if it's a chip that has firmware loaded | 12:49 |
| clau | I guess we think about it as hw if it doesn't depend on cpu | 12:49 |
| AL13N_work | but, what about gpu?. | 12:50 |
| AL13N_work | or raid controllers? | 12:50 |
| AL13N_work | or even BIOS chips | 12:50 |
| AL13N_work | sounds like a gray area to me | 12:51 |
| AL13N_work | anyway, i think if you have an SoC, chances are high the long-press is not 100% failsafe for any other components that get stuck | 12:52 |
| AL13N_work | (i mean other than the battery and the button itself) | 12:53 |
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| Nicd- | err, is this supposed to happen? I'm in an app, but when I swipe away, I go to the lock pad | 13:00 |
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| Nicd- | i.e. the phone has locked itself while the app is active and the display is on | 13:01 |
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| clau | I noticed some issues with the timers too, maybe it's the same root cause. Sometimes the 5s sleep timer still applies even when I unlock and go to an app. | 13:04 |
| clau | other tines it takes 30s to go to sleep from lock screen. | 13:04 |
| clau | maybe the lock tiner was still active in your case, and phone was locked while you were doing something else. | 13:05 |
| Nicd- | it's funny, now the display won't apparently go back to sleep | 13:11 |
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| Nicd- | but it's not fatal, as I can just swipe back to the lock screen | 13:11 |
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| clau | I believe that also happened to me once. | 13:14 |
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| gexc | can we estimate the figure of sales of jolla in HK by counting saberIM downloads in openrepos? | 14:00 |
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| Shihua | Wow,there are many | 14:02 |
| Shihua | people. | 14:02 |
| Shihua | Hello | 14:02 |
| tbr | moo | 14:02 |
| coderus | very wow! much hello! | 14:02 |
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| Shihua | Sorry,My English is poor. | 14:02 |
| Teme | hello there | 14:02 |
| Shihua | Through jollaphone know this. | 14:02 |
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| coderus | Shihua: everything okay! I;m just joling. Much! | 14:02 |
| coderus | joking* | 14:02 |
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| Shihua | Excuse me,you are all Finnish? | 14:02 |
| tbr | no | 14:02 |
| coderus | Shihua: no, i'm from cold country of polar bears, vodka, matreshka and balalaika | 14:03 |
| * AL13N_work checks his id | 14:03 | |
| Shihua | You are all the developer for jolla? | 14:03 |
| AL13N_work | coderus: siberia? | 14:03 |
| AL13N_work | not me | 14:03 |
| coderus | AL13N_work: siberia is geographical place, not country :D | 14:04 |
| AL13N_work | you sure? | 14:04 |
| AL13N_work | or maybe "not yet" | 14:04 |
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| javispedro | Shihua, developers, contributors, or users. | 14:05 |
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| * AL13N_work was gonna do some sort of ukraine joke, but refrains from doing so | 14:05 | |
| * AL13N_work heard jolla has around 100 employees, so given the people in the channel, i'd say, they can't all be devs :-) | 14:06 | |
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| coderus | AL13N_work: lol :D | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | 90% marketing, and then 10% coders? ;p | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | haha | 14:07 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: and the party leader ofc. | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | sounds like a typical percentage | 14:07 |
| Shihua | I'm wrong in expressing.OMG.Please do not be | 14:07 |
| Shihua | mind | 14:07 |
| coderus | Shihua: just enjoy | 14:07 |
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| Shihua | haha | 14:08 |
| Teme | there are just normal users here, too (at least me) | 14:08 |
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| * AL13N_work is also regular user | 14:08 | |
| Teme | not contributing, just complaining ;) | 14:08 |
| Sidde | i'm a normal user aswell. doing some development for myself on the phone but not much | 14:09 |
| AL13N_work | ok, i'm also doing some sort of dev on phone | 14:10 |
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| coderus | i'm just regular developer then | 14:10 |
| AL13N_work | hahaha | 14:10 |
| coderus | just contributing and complaining API | 14:10 |
| AL13N_work | we're all regular | 14:10 |
| AL13N_work | :-) | 14:10 |
| javispedro | no, I've written irregular expressions. | 14:11 |
| AL13N_work | :-) | 14:11 |
| * coderus trying ubuntu touch sdk and emulator right now | 14:11 | |
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| Shihua | I want do something for Jolla, but I'm just one student who is learning maijor of car.I'm just worry,but can not do anything for Jolla. | 14:12 |
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| Shihua | Now learn | 14:15 |
| Yaniel | a TOH-style car dock? | 14:15 |
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| Shihua | No | 14:15 |
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| coderus | wow nice phone holder TOH for cars will be PURE AWESOME! | 14:16 |
| Shihua | Just,service car | 14:16 |
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| coderus | with projector to windshield! | 14:17 |
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| Shihua | It's too display. | 14:20 |
| * Yaniel still waiting for laser projectors | 14:20 | |
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| Aciid | why does keira black sound like a trucker ripping a fart? | 14:22 |
| javispedro | sounds like a woman name to me. | 14:23 |
| Aciid | women dont rip farts like that | 14:23 |
| javispedro | (as a non-native, why it would be related to farts or truckers?) | 14:23 |
| Shihua | Er,I must learn English well.too many words do ont understand. haha | 14:23 |
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| Shihua | Do you think Jolla is big in poket | 14:30 |
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| Shihua | ? | 14:31 |
| Yaniel | a bit | 14:31 |
| Teme | sometimes with tight jeans | 14:31 |
| Yaniel | and not as nicely rounded as N9 etc | 14:32 |
| Teme | when sitting it's hard to take out because of non-rounded edges | 14:32 |
| Shihua | yes,I did this like you. | 14:33 |
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| Shihua | and sometimes the screen will be bright in poket itself. | 14:35 |
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| gexc | wet pocket? | 14:56 |
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| coderus | wet pockets :D | 14:58 |
| coderus | why your posket is wet? :D | 14:59 |
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| gexc | just guessing | 14:59 |
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| gexc | for the screen-turn-itself-on issue | 14:59 |
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| gexc | or maybe the material of the pocket is conducting LOL | 15:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah but it shouldnt double tap on with the prox sensor engaged | 15:09 |
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| gexc | tight pocket triggers the power key? | 15:12 |
| gexc | doesn't seem likely lol | 15:12 |
| gexc | or broken prox sensor <- bad | 15:12 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 15:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | easy to test though if your prox sensor is bad | 15:13 |
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| gexc | not me LOL | 15:13 |
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| EaxBin | Hi there. Just got my Jolla today! :D Is it me or does it drain battery a little fast? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | did you make sure to upgrade all the way to update8? | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | 1.0.8 | 17:37 |
| EaxBin | I updated once, hang on :) | 17:37 |
| EaxBin | I am on 10.8.19 :) | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | what apps/accounts do you have? | 17:37 |
| Nicd- | EaxBin: what is "fast" to you? | 17:38 |
| EaxBin | Stskeeps: Accounts: Google & Jolla. Apps: Play store { Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Google Drive, Spotify }. Jolla Store { Calendar, Email, Calculator, Clock, Notes, Maps, Documents, Flashlight, File Browser, Terminal } | 17:39 |
| EaxBin | Nicd-: Good question ;) I finished charging it ~5 minutes ago, have played around with it since and it's at 97% | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | EaxBin: well, try it for a day and see how it goe | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | s | 17:39 |
| EaxBin | Will do, thanks :) | 17:40 |
| Sail0r | the first 15% always drain fast | 17:40 |
| EaxBin | Oh, interesting! | 17:40 |
| Sail0r | but it stays a long time between 70 - 50% | 17:40 |
| Sail0r | (only speak for mine) | 17:40 |
| Sail0r | I think it's a normal behaviour of lipo cells | 17:40 |
| EaxBin | Excellent :) Hoping mine follows the same pattern. Heh, it's like toothpaste.. | 17:40 |
| EaxBin | Ah, makes sense yeah | 17:41 |
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| EaxBin | So, anything else I should do with it now that I have it? Install / change? | 17:41 |
| peppelakappa | maybe openrepos? | 17:41 |
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| EaxBin | A store? | 17:41 |
| Sail0r | If you don't need things from openrepos don't install them ^^ | 17:42 |
| Nicd- | peppelakappa: I wouldn't recommend openrepos until they have a need for it | 17:42 |
| EaxBin | Ok :) | 17:42 |
| Nicd- | because openrepos is the prime way of bricking your brand new jolla :P | 17:42 |
| EaxBin | Yeah, imma avoid it for now then thanks :b | 17:42 |
| peppelakappa | Nicd-: if he/she needs whatsapp? ;D | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | the only thing I have from openrepos is mitakuuluu, the best and only whatsapp app for jolla | 17:43 |
| EaxBin | I'd like snapchat? XD | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | but I download the rpm manually | 17:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | Nicd, you should totally try out my music player :P | 17:46 |
| Sail0r | ? | 17:47 |
| Sail0r | mpris support? | 17:47 |
| Nicd- | r0kk3rz: why? | 17:47 |
| Nicd- | I have my mp3 player for music | 17:48 |
| Sail0r | r0kk3rz: http://specifications.freedesktop.org/mpris-spec/latest/ | 17:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i was planning on putting in a dbus interface | 17:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if theres a standard to work from, that makes things easier | 17:49 |
| Nicd- | also you should have at least given the name of your app so I can look it up :P | 17:49 |
| Nicd- | does it have last.fm support? | 17:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | its pretty basic so far | 17:50 |
| Sail0r | mpris would be very nice because it could be used by pebbled and other apps which use mpris to communicate with mp3 players | 17:50 |
| Sail0r | currently only quasarmx support mpris on jolla | 17:50 |
| Sail0r | and i don't like quasarmx ^^ | 17:50 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its not very sailfishy | 17:50 |
| Sail0r | yours looks much better | 17:51 |
| r0kk3rz | thanks for the link | 17:51 |
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| EaxBin | The "colour" you configure when setting up the phone, where the heck do I find that in settings? | 17:52 |
| Nicd- | EaxBin: nowhere, you change it by changing your ambience (background pic) | 17:52 |
| Nicd- | it will pick up a new color from the picture | 17:52 |
| EaxBin | Ah ok :) Thanks! Can you guess my next question? :b (Yup, I have actually looked the settings over) | 17:53 |
| Nicd- | how to change the ambience? | 17:53 |
| r0kk3rz | through gallery app | 17:54 |
| EaxBin | Actually just found it! Located in Gallery (tad weird location, but fuck it) | 17:54 |
| EaxBin | Thanks guys :) | 17:54 |
| Nicd- | in case you need ambience pics: https://plus.google.com/photos/110693235602405640560/albums/5951600878348798689 | 17:54 |
| EaxBin | Sweet, thanks Nicd-! | 17:54 |
| Nicd- | from the keyboard one forward all are taken with the jolla actually | 17:55 |
| EaxBin | Shite, that is amazing Oo | 17:56 |
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| Yaniel | huh | 19:33 |
| Yaniel | what's thisfaint red light on the front side o the jolla | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | proximity sensor? | 19:34 |
| Yaniel | right below the headphone jack | 19:34 |
| Yaniel | I guess | 19:34 |
| Yaniel | but should I be seeing light from it? | 19:35 |
| phlixi_ | if you are filming it, you can see it pretty good | 19:36 |
| phlixi_ | i guess its not that infra infra red :-) | 19:37 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.7 released with good changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.8.7 check for updates! https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 19:37 |
| Yaniel | I'm just casually chatting here | 19:37 |
| Yaniel | and see it next to the screen | 19:38 |
| Yaniel | funky | 19:38 |
| phlixi_ | [2014-09-05 19:53:47] <Nicd-> in case you need ambience pics: https://plus.google.com/photos/110693235602405640560/albums/5951600878348798689 <<- and of course, there is http://jollawalls.com :-) | 19:41 |
| Nicd- | haven't uploaded my stuff there | 19:42 |
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| phlixi_ | i am using the same for years on all desktops and now also on jolla http://jollawalls.com/media/mandelbrot-seahorse-valley ;-) no fancy stuff in the way, a lot of space for icons etc, and still nice colors (and on jolla it makes a nice cornflowery blue for the fonts etc) | 19:45 |
| phlixi_ | allthough i sometimes think there might be something better for more contrast in sunlight, since i can hardly read on the display (on the other side, there is not much sunlight in my life ^^) | 19:46 |
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| dunp | tietokone.fi | 19:57 |
| dunp | upes | 19:57 |
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| Shinryuu | heh, this is not a browser window! | 20:03 |
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| Shinryuu | sauna + jolla = ???? | 20:56 |
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| Stskeeps | saunajolla? | 20:56 |
| Jettis | = new battery to jolla | 20:57 |
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