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| TMavica | cybette: ping | 06:15 |
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| cybette | TMavica: pong | 06:16 |
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| tbr | good moaning | 06:17 |
| cybette | morning tbr :) | 06:17 |
| tbr | hiho cybette | 06:17 |
| * cybette had < 4 hr of sleep. night owl habits & working with HK time zone don't go well together | 06:19 | |
| tbr | I can imagine | 06:21 |
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| pdanek1 | You should move to HK. | 06:31 |
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| Sail0r | morning everybody | 06:38 |
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| meklu | mornin' | 06:39 |
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| TMavica | cybette: both facebook is me and amanda opened | 06:41 |
| TMavica | cybette: seem the time is too early for us..we still at working | 06:42 |
| cybette | TMavica: I will ask to push back the time to 19:00 | 06:43 |
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| TMavica | but i 1900 have 3hk party, LOL | 06:44 |
| TMavica | trouble now. | 06:44 |
| Nicd- | http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/08/samsung-focusing-budget-tizen-phones-now-release-plans-samsung-z-sm-z910f-z130h-z130e/ | 06:44 |
| Nicd- | "Samsung focusing on budget Tizen phones, No release plans for Samsung Z" | 06:45 |
| TMavica | cybette: no chance i can go 3hk party tonight instead of tomorrow?? | 06:45 |
| TMavica | so i can attend 2 party | 06:45 |
| cybette | TMavica: 3HK part is tonight. community meetup is tomorrow. you can attend both :) | 06:47 |
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| TMavica | my 3hk party is 13/8.... | 06:48 |
| TMavica | 3hk told mne | 06:48 |
| TMavica | me | 06:48 |
| cybette | really? I thought it's only one night. let me check. | 06:50 |
| TMavica | many night | 06:51 |
| TMavica | 12/8 - 15/8 too.. | 06:51 |
| TMavica | i am 13/8 | 06:51 |
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| Kiranos | http://jolla.com/zh-hk T minus 6mins | 06:53 |
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| Nicd- | congrats jolla! \o/ | 06:55 |
| ln- | 0 hours 0 minutes here | 06:55 |
| TMavica | Nicd: i go out 3 shop take a look | 06:55 |
| TMavica | LOL | 06:55 |
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| TMavica_Jolla | cybette: call me this | 07:07 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | cybette: arrange me from tomorrow to tonight party, so i can discuss with marc how going tomorrow. lol | 07:12 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: hrrm, good old didn't look at calendar due to being on holiday, i personally won't be able to attend the meeting today, managed to get myself into a situation where i have to take care of kid in exactly that timeslot, damnit.. | 07:14 |
| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: that's 3HK's party, I don't have a way to make the arrangements for 3HK | 07:14 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ok | 07:14 |
| * Stskeeps will have to make the next one | 07:15 | |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | .... | 07:16 |
| cybette | tbr, Stskeeps: oh darn it, the meeting. i might still be busy with HK launch stuff | 07:16 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: will there be /any/ of the _promised_ updates from Jolla then? might as well cancel the meeting, as e.g. the licensing topic highly depends on jolla bothering to show up | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: let me just read the agenda again | 07:16 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: if you haven't read the email I sent you yet, then I'm going to cancel as updates were a main part | 07:17 |
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| Stskeeps | well, i'm pre-holiday-mailbox-processing sadly.. hrmmm | 07:18 |
| tbr | that's why I didn't count on you reading the mailing list | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | just saw the reminder on twitter and realized i wasn't able to attend | 07:18 |
| tbr | I also sent reminders to other sailors last week | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 07:19 |
| * tbr proceeds to cancel the meeting then | 07:19 | |
| Stskeeps | sorry, i should organize myself better | 07:19 |
| tbr | well it's not just about you | 07:19 |
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| tbr | promises were made by sailors weeks ago | 07:20 |
| tbr | I reminded people a week ago | 07:20 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | cybette: so i cant attend both meeting and party, both is 1900 | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | well, perhaps we should just wait 20 minutes and we can see who can attend | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | just sat down at desk practically so can chase up things better now.. | 07:21 |
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| Stskeeps | i can probably prep some material for silica matter at least (just found piratepad with more elaboration) | 07:23 |
| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: the meetup time is not confirmed yet but you said 1700 is not good either. | 07:24 |
| tbr | you might as well send a canned statement to the mailing list, to be honest. I'd rather not see this devolve into MeeGo community office. | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | understood | 07:24 |
| tbr | I sound upset, but it's more about being realistic here | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:25 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, perhaps it's better to just cancel then, it should be a discussion together, not statements, should be room to query deeper when something isn't clear.. | 07:27 |
| tbr | yes, also something that's not explicitly mentioned but fits the topic and I'd have brought it up: Tuukka found GPLv2 shell scripts in recovery and I wanted to know if there is public upstream anywhere | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | hrm, let me just check the checkout | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | ie the oss one | 07:29 |
| tbr | I briefly looked over the tarball and didn't see any name that sounded related, but I didn't unpack and grep | 07:29 |
| tbr | btw: update8 tarball, at your convenience(!) | 07:30 |
| * Stskeeps gets post-holiday stress | 07:30 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | it's gplv2 for sure but a bit problematic to build outside jolla obs, should be no reason why it couldn't be in a upstream repo for people to contribute to and improve | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | no magic there, it's all shellscripts anyhow | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | should perhaps have an alternative build method that uses a scp to a jolla device or something.. now we sound like android | 07:31 |
| tbr | hehe | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | okay.. so three to-dos: my part of updates for next meeting, silica responses (your questions are in etherpad fully or were they on a mailing list/blog with more extensive questions?), update8 tarball, recovery git repo | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | .. that's four | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | what did i miss? | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | .. read the previous meeting logs | 07:33 |
| tbr | the silica item has a 1:1 copy on TJC | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | okiedokie | 07:33 |
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| tbr | I'm sure there are plenty of actions/todo's from previous meetings that I missed as they were not tagged and I don't track ones that are not assigned to me actively. | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | ooi how's mqtt/push going, any blockers? | 07:35 |
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| tbr | I have a well working PoC/basic-use-case now: irssi notifications over MQTT to my Jolla | 07:35 |
| tbr | works very well and is only sometimes broken as connman seems to hate my WLAN, maybe as I have IPv6 | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | well connman hates all networks .. ;) | 07:36 |
| tbr | as in: the whole device is offline although it pretends it's not | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | got multiple APs? | 07:36 |
| tbr | all APs have different SSIDs | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:37 |
| tbr | there's "tbr" "tbr-5"(5GHz, not seen obviously on the Jolla) and "tbr-l" | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | tigeli: do we have monitoring on ipv6.jolla.com ? | 07:37 |
| tbr | I have connman tracing installed, would just need to enable persistent systemd. | 07:38 |
| tbr | logs that is | 07:38 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: hmm, let me check.. can't remember for sure did I set it up | 07:38 |
| tbr | I did dump logs from around a loss of connectivity, but it didn't contain anything obvious, to me. | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | .. why isn't my vim cursors working | 07:38 |
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| tbr | the weird thing was: all routes were severed, v4 and v6, except a LAN route of the RA prefix. But there were also other failure modes. | 07:39 |
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| tigeli | Stskeeps: not currently, I will setup some automation on those in near future | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | o | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | k | 07:41 |
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| tigeli | Stskeeps: though both instances which we have running look ok | 07:41 |
| sharpneli | Oh Jolla. Thou hast let me down. Change a country -> totally wrong timezone selection when autosync time is on. | 07:41 |
| sharpneli | Also no sounds yet again. | 07:41 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: and I would notice if they go down.. yes, I have ipv6 at home :D | 07:41 |
| sharpneli | I flew to Vancouver for siggraph and my Jolla went full Yolo and forced Toronto timezone. | 07:42 |
| tigeli | sharpneli: that time is set by your operator | 07:42 |
| sharpneli | Also no more precise selection of wifi access points so I cannot even access the wifi here :E | 07:42 |
| sharpneli | tigeli: Friend has same operator, android phone. Works perfectly. | 07:42 |
| sharpneli | Well "same". Different brands under same operator but naturally they map to the same canadian operator. | 07:43 |
| sharpneli | As in Saunalahti and Elisa. | 07:43 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | how come the jolla girls not finland one. | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica_Jolla_: l10n? | 07:44 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | wt 10n | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: would be interesting to see output of connman test scripts when that happens i guess | 07:45 |
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| ln- | i visited germany in june, and one beautiful day my N9's clock autoupdated to february of the year 2027. how about that. | 07:46 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: if you get me what I should run, then I can do it. | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: spotted this the other day btw, if you ever want to add it to the IoT experience: http://www.openbci.com/ | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: ok, i'll have to get back to you on that | 07:47 |
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| tbr | *clicky* | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | the muscle activity comes to mind | 07:48 |
| meklu | TMavica_Jolla_: l10n = localization | 07:49 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: now both ipv6-instance have alarms enabled | 07:49 |
| meklu | i18n = internationalization | 07:49 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | HongKonger | 07:50 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lol | 07:50 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | i dont want see hongkonger, i want see finnish, too boring for me | 07:50 |
| tigeli | sharpneli: not the first time saunalahti/elisa would mess things up :D | 07:50 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: interesting, but expensive | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | there was some other kit i saw from somewhere too when i was looking into subvocalization.. | 07:53 |
| tbr | the BLE bit is nice | 07:53 |
| sharpneli | tigeli: The weird part is that it works on the android phone | 07:53 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | seem Jolla pay on so much in hong kong launch | 07:53 |
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| Stskeeps | reminds me that i need to look into what javispedro found regarding tizen BLE | 07:53 |
| sharpneli | But yah. It's possible I attribute some faults of the operator to Jolla. | 07:54 |
| tbr | sharpneli: android might do more magic regarding determining your location | 07:54 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: ah, found nice problem with the ipv6-insatnces, has someone complained?-) | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | tigeli: i suspect tbr might have experienced a problem | 07:54 |
| chem|st | ln-: there is one cell-tower in the south which is located in the databases 400km north of that position^^ try to get a gps fix with a-gps on that^^ | 07:55 |
| tbr | tigeli: I only noticed recently that IPv6 became unreliable on the Jolla. It used to be my preferred connection method, but recently sometimes would not acquire the RA prefix | 07:55 |
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| Nicd- | tbr: you have an ISP that actually offers IPv6? | 07:57 |
| tigeli | tbr: ok.. I've not experienced problems with RA's and ipv6.jolla.com does not really affect on that | 07:57 |
| tbr | Nicd-: no, I do my own back-haul. :-( | 07:57 |
| tigeli | I also have to use he.net, sixxs has become unrealiable (at least the finnish pop) | 07:58 |
| tbr | currently from SixXS stockholm POP, but trying to find something better. That one sometimes has problems routing Google | 07:58 |
| tigeli | Nicd-: there are few small operators in finland which do offer native ipv6 | 07:58 |
| tbr | I ditched the DNA SixXS pop years ago | 07:58 |
| tigeli | tbr: he.net stockholm seems to be ok | 07:58 |
| tbr | sonera has the VDSL monopoly in this building :/ | 07:58 |
| tbr | I'll be surprised if they even bother to participate in the National IPv6 launch next year | 07:59 |
| Nicd- | tigeli: only nebula for me, but it's really expensive | 07:59 |
| Nicd- | and for mobile I don't know any | 07:59 |
| tbr | Nicd-: try sonera B2B for expensive... 120€ net per month, but would come with IPv6 native... | 08:00 |
| tbr | I've been probing my operator contacts and it seems there is no intention of rolling out IPv6 | 08:00 |
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| tbr | this might only change if IoT suddenly _really_ becomes a massive hit AND cash cow for operators and customers will demand IPv6 | 08:01 |
| tbr | then a few YEARS later it might arrive for consumers | 08:01 |
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| pp_ | tbr: if all goes well .fi will do a ipv6 launch for consumers next year | 08:03 |
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| pp_ | I understood the operators might actually do it | 08:03 |
| tbr | pp_: I was at the TREX workshop. Toothless government push. ISPs and operators won't sign up IMHO | 08:03 |
| tigeli | tbr: I asked ipv6 to our office at technopolis, had to wait 2 months to get it :D | 08:05 |
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| Sidde | i have not noticed any ipv6 problems with my jolla. I think | 08:05 |
| ln- | sonera B2B can be like 90€/month (+VAT 24%) for 2M/0.5 ADSL. | 08:05 |
| tigeli | tbr: they had to upgrade bunch of routers (elisa) | 08:05 |
| Sidde | wifi is not always so reliable | 08:05 |
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| Sidde | But i use dhcppd at home | 08:05 |
| tigeli | Sidde: we have a fix coming up for rsn ie problems with the wlan driver | 08:06 |
| Sidde | the only issue i've had is that it can't use temporary ipv6 addresses | 08:06 |
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| dunp | i have sonera 10/10 vdsl 0€/month | 08:07 |
| tigeli | it will not solve all the problems but at least the problems people having disconnect issues with various wlan ap's within same essid | 08:07 |
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| Sidde | tigeli: great | 08:07 |
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| tigeli | Sidde: I have bug about the temporary ipv6-addresses, not fixed yet but.. | 08:08 |
| tbr | tigeli: heh, not surprised. even very very big transit carriers have only very few actual routers and serve other locations through L2 tunnels | 08:08 |
| tigeli | Sidde: if you want temporary addresses you can manually edit the wifi-service-file under /var/lib/connman | 08:08 |
| Sidde | i have not checked if it's still an issue with temp ipv6 addresses in a few month though | 08:08 |
| Sidde | so the issues i had before might be gone | 08:08 |
| tigeli | Sidde: seems to work ok for me | 08:09 |
| tbr | having privacy addresses on by default would be great | 08:09 |
| tbr | no need to push out the EUI-64 all the time | 08:09 |
| Sidde | tigeli: ok, it did not work at all in february or when i tried it | 08:09 |
| tigeli | Sidde: I think we had still the old connman back then | 08:09 |
| Sidde | tigeli: could be | 08:09 |
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| Sidde | tbr: temp addresses can be a problem combined with SSH so i'd like to have a easily located setting for it | 08:10 |
| pp_ | mosh? | 08:11 |
| Sidde | an ssh server does not like it when the client swaps ip | 08:11 |
| tbr | Sidde: why? temp addresses don't disable incoming SSH connections to your EUI-64 prefix and outbound active connections should prevent your privacy suffix from expiring | 08:11 |
| tigeli | mosh | 08:11 |
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| pp_ | and I'd suppose multipath tcp eventually | 08:12 |
| tbr | does mosh do IPv6 or even dual stack by now? | 08:12 |
| Sidde | tbr: I've noticed that in Windows i loose the outbound connections | 08:12 |
| tigeli | pp_: I fear it will become next ipv6 :D | 08:12 |
| tbr | Sidde: you said "windows" | 08:13 |
| Sidde | tbr: i don't have it enabled in linux so i've not tried it :D | 08:13 |
| Sidde | tbr: yes, i know | 08:13 |
| Sidde | tbr: i feel ashamed for it. | 08:13 |
| Sidde | tbr: but i have a gaming pc at home... | 08:13 |
| tbr | I sometimes notice having 10 privacy suffices due to established TCP connections | 08:13 |
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| tbr | I have no idea though if connman tries to handle expiry itself or lets the kernel do it | 08:14 |
| tbr | my non-embedded systems run mostly network-manager | 08:14 |
| Sidde | it's starting to get a bit easier to use ipv6 nowadays. But lots of utilities are still way off | 08:14 |
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| Sidde | openssl client and server for example has no ipv6 support | 08:15 |
| Sidde | and lots of other tools i use for troubleshooting are missing support too. | 08:15 |
| pp_ | their ebcdic/vms -compatible middleware layer probably doesn't support it | 08:15 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 10:10 |
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| Venemo_ | hey | 10:18 |
| Venemo_ | which ambience is this? https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/update_collection.jpg | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | moo Venemo_ | 10:20 |
| Venemo_ | heya Stskeeps :) | 10:20 |
| tadzik | Keira Black and Snow White in a blender? :o | 10:20 |
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| Venemo_ | dunno, but I want that ambience | 10:20 |
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| Kiranos | I use grassroot recentluy | 10:28 |
| Kiranos | like it very much | 10:28 |
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| Nicd- | I only use my own ambiences :P | 10:37 |
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| Aciid | kimmoli: lower hole #HYPE | 10:41 |
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| Kiranos | how has the anticipation been in Hong Kong, has it been a silent introduction of jolla or has there been some hype ? | 11:39 |
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| cybette | Kiranos: big launch event with 3, see https://www.facebook.com/threeHK | 11:55 |
| gogeta | hi cybette | 11:55 |
| cybette | hi gogeta :) | 11:55 |
| gogeta | in vacation ? | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | nice, congrats cybette :) and all of you at jolla | 11:56 |
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| cybette | gogeta: just ended, back to work this week :P | 11:56 |
| cybette | Nicd-: thanks! | 11:56 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | so ridiculous the talker in party, that 3 ppl only talk about android apps, really on9 | 12:03 |
| gogeta | ? | 12:04 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | the jolla party, they found 3 ppl to introduce Jolla, and they only talk about android apps, example: android whatsapp | 12:05 |
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| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: are you at the party? | 12:09 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | no! | 12:09 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | i at tomorrow | 12:09 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | 1 of my community girl is in there, she told me that | 12:09 |
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| cybette | yeah ok I also just heard they extended the experience nights to more days due to the demand. however celebs and lucky draw etc. probably only today | 12:10 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | o my god | 12:10 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | most of us cant allow go tonight | 12:11 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | amanda also no any date allow to go | 12:11 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | it is ridiculous | 12:11 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | she dont have any date to go | 12:11 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | and Jolla found some ppl that never use Jolla to talk | 12:12 |
| cybette | that's one reason we are planning for the community meetup, it's independent of 3HK, and everyone welcome | 12:12 |
| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: are the people talking from 3HK or celebs or...? | 12:13 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | from 3HK i think, a model or talker from somewhere that i dont know | 12:13 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | but they obviously dont know everything, included the pronounce of 'Jolla' | 12:14 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | it is funny | 12:14 |
| Kiranos | TMavica_Jolla_: also there is no whatsapp in the jolla store (only community repo) whatsapp is a very heavily used app in asia | 12:14 |
| entil | yeah, wonder why that is | 12:14 |
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| entil | coderus has done a wonderful job on the client, it deserves to be in the store | 12:15 |
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| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: well if you come to the meetup, you'll meet Marc and Jolla sailors, get better hands-on demos, etc. :) | 12:15 |
| Kiranos | so its not strange they talk about android apps , as alot of potensial new jolla owners are worried that they will be missing the usual apps they use day to day today | 12:15 |
| entil | so did the HK launch happen already? it's today? | 12:15 |
| cybette | Kiranos: depends on where in asia, LINE / WeChat maybe more popular | 12:15 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | 3HK shouldnt choose ppl that dont know Jolla | 12:15 |
| cybette | entil: yes, today! right now :) | 12:15 |
| entil | congrats! :) | 12:16 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | entil: happening | 12:16 |
| Kiranos | TMavica_Jolla_: jolla when first launched also had heavy focus on android app compatibilty | 12:16 |
| Kiranos | I think its a stratigic and well thought trough before the event launch | 12:16 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | a decision of 3HK. | 12:17 |
| coderus | entil: it have a lot of restricted api, and can't be published in harbour | 12:18 |
| entil | coderus: I'm not sure I understand, do you distribute something binary-only as well? | 12:18 |
| cybette | keep in mind what we (early adopters, devs, geeks) and general consumers look for in a phone can be quite different :) | 12:18 |
| Kiranos | cybette: indeed | 12:18 |
| rigo_ | Hi all, I know this was discussed already. But can I suspend the update-software so it only updates the phone when on wifi instead of 3G? Is there a trick/update | 12:19 |
| Kiranos | rigo_: there is today an option to only search for updates once your on wifi | 12:19 |
| Kiranos | or WLAN | 12:19 |
| Kiranos | as it says | 12:19 |
| rigo_ | thanks Kiranos, I'll find that option | 12:20 |
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| Kiranos | its in settings and in the new dedicated option for udpates | 12:21 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | 250 hkd for toh in hk | 12:21 |
| Kiranos | how much is that in € or $ ? | 12:21 |
| tadzik | heh, you type faster than me | 12:21 |
| Kiranos | toh is very expensive here in europe atleast :P | 12:21 |
| cybette | about 25 eur | 12:21 |
| cybette | 1 eur approx 10 hkd | 12:22 |
| Kiranos | I only have the original I cant motivate myself to buy a piece of plastic for €25 :) | 12:22 |
| tadzik | yeah, same :) | 12:22 |
| tadzik | I'd rather have 25 beer than a different phone colour | 12:23 |
| rigo_ | I bought one and my daughter said it was ugly and preferred the original one :) | 12:23 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | cybette: no | 12:23 |
| rigo_ | tadzik: what about a TOH keyboard? | 12:23 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | cybette: 1 euro = 12 HKD | 12:23 |
| tadzik | rigo_: on that I could spend 25€, yes | 12:24 |
| cybette | TMavica_Jolla_: 10.35 according to google :P | 12:24 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | o. cheaped | 12:24 |
| gogeta | cybette: put some batteries | 12:24 |
| gogeta | on store | 12:24 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | before i see is 12.. | 12:24 |
| entil | I have the basic black otherhalf and everyelse who has a jolla disses me for my phone looking like any other phone out there :< | 12:24 |
| rigo_ | entil: good thing, they will run android exploits against it :) | 12:25 |
| tadzik | heh | 12:25 |
| Kiranos | I have the white otherhalf I like it | 12:25 |
| entil | I like the blackness of it | 12:26 |
| Kiranos | but will probably not by a new otherhalf until it atleast is €9 or so for a toh without any function other than a new ambiance.. for a keyboard maybe €50 if it doesnt make the phone to thick | 12:26 |
| tadzik | poppy red is nice, almost orange :} | 12:26 |
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| entil | a sensor toh would be nice, with temperature and all sorts of stuff like that | 12:27 |
| tadzik | or a velcro half :o | 12:28 |
| tadzik | though un-velcroing it might just remove OH altogether | 12:28 |
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| cybette | gogeta: I've been wanting that as well. will poke around | 12:33 |
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| coderus | china vote here: https://together.jolla.com/question/53191/android-ucbrowser-crashing/ | 12:46 |
| TMavica_Jolla | cybette: i going meet marc | 12:47 |
| cybette | TMavica_Jolla: \o/ | 12:49 |
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| SK_work | TMavica_Jolla: emotion emotion :) | 12:52 |
| TMavica_Jolla | 。。 | 12:52 |
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| narchie1 | soooo | 12:57 |
| narchie1 | 2 weeks in after battery change | 12:58 |
| narchie1 | first reboot just happened | 12:58 |
| narchie1 | and again | 12:58 |
| narchie1 | oh wow | 12:58 |
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| narchie1 | here we go again | 12:58 |
| narchie1 | 4% | 12:59 |
| narchie1 | reboot | 12:59 |
| narchie1 | and again | 12:59 |
| Aciid | narchie1: check pm | 12:59 |
| Kiranos | narchie1: I have fixed my reboots by disabling wifi and only using 3g as data source | 13:01 |
| narchie1 | wifi is off | 13:01 |
| Kiranos | ok :( | 13:01 |
| Kiranos | mine began to reboot a couple of updates ago never had any issues before that | 13:01 |
| tadzik | do you guys have a piece of paper in there? | 13:01 |
| narchie1 | had tape installed by optima© | 13:02 |
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| Aciid | narchie1: stop installing facebook apps | 13:03 |
| tadzik | do they reboot your phone? :o | 13:04 |
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| narchie1 | he's just trolling me | 13:04 |
| Aciid | tadzik: they consume some what 100mb dalvik memory | 13:05 |
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| Aciid | narchie: come to ruskeasuo shell, ill beat your ass up | 13:05 |
| Aciid | for using non-free software | 13:05 |
| tadzik | Aciid: well, you deserve 20% less ram for installing a facebook app ;o | 13:05 |
| tadzik | or 10% or whatever | 13:05 |
| Aciid | I don't even own a facebook account | 13:05 |
| Aciid | please | 13:06 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | dinner with marc now | 13:17 |
| Aciid | TMavica_Jolla_: remember to tell him that our phones keep still rebooting | 13:17 |
| Aciid | thanks | 13:17 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ...lol | 13:18 |
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| narchie | yeah | 13:19 |
| tadzik | why. It'll make him sad, and it won't help you | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | might get him a hug though :) | 13:20 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lent a lighter for marc smoke | 13:20 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lol | 13:20 |
| Kiranos | haha | 13:20 |
| Aciid | TMavica_Jolla_: so you are actually blogging here about your day with marc | 13:22 |
| Aciid | cute | 13:22 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | sure | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | Aciid: have you contacted care re your reboot issues? | 13:23 |
| entil | I sent him a congrats sms when you told me about the launch :> | 13:23 |
| Aciid | Stskeeps: fixed mine with the paper-trick | 13:23 |
| Aciid | Stskeeps: narchie has had his jolla in repair for 3 times now | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:23 |
| tbr | people should try cleaning contacts, it helps more than the paper | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | ooi, it shouldn't be difficult to make a humidity sensor toh should it? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | i occasionally wonder how humid my phone really gets when dealing with a sweaty man like myself | 13:25 |
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| tadzik | Stskeeps: would it automatically switch to an Underwater Ambiance? :P | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | nah, mer background :> | 13:25 |
| tadzik | heh | 13:25 |
| Venemo_ | so | 13:28 |
| Venemo_ | does anyone know how I can get this ambience? https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/update_collection.jpg | 13:28 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/TMavica/status/499187369136762880 | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica_Jolla_: is that the irish bar near the jolla office? | 13:40 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | no. in wai chai | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 13:40 |
| SK_work | they are in HK :) | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's an irish bar near the cyberport offices | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:41 |
| SK_work | :D | 13:41 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | SK_work: i am having dinner with them | 13:41 |
| * Stskeeps looks forward to going to HK again some day | 13:41 | |
| SK_work | TMavica_Jolla_: I know :) | 13:42 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lol | 13:42 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | i am on air talk,lol | 13:42 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | coderus: marc talking about u | 13:49 |
| Aciid | probably talking about the great flashlight-app and how its bringing us all together | 13:49 |
| Aciid | and how everyone should be able to choose whetherornot to include 3rd party tracking code in their apps | 13:50 |
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| gabriel9 | anyone knows will sailfish work on this: http://oneplus.net/ | 14:10 |
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| Aciid | gabriel9: let us know when it ships | 14:11 |
| gabriel9 | hell, i dont know how to get one :D | 14:11 |
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| Aciid | then I dont think anyone can answer your question | 14:11 |
| Aciid | cant port anything without having something to port it on | 14:11 |
| gabriel9 | makes sanse | 14:12 |
| gabriel9 | sense* | 14:12 |
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| gabriel9 | i just want to know how the hell is price that low $299 | 14:13 |
| gabriel9 | or i am out of sync with mobile industry :/ | 14:13 |
| gabriel9 | and this is normal | 14:13 |
| kimmoli | Aciid: :p | 14:15 |
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| locusf | gabriel9: its in progress | 14:17 |
| gabriel9 | make sanse, but it is still cheap for that hardware | 14:19 |
| gabriel9 | ok, my jolla got burn screen | 14:19 |
| gabriel9 | some yellow circle on right side | 14:19 |
| kimmoli | TMavica_Jolla_ is so in flames :) | 14:19 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lol | 14:20 |
| gabriel9 | is this covered with waranty? | 14:20 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | how come got cigarette but no lighter | 14:20 |
| kimmoli | happens... | 14:21 |
| tadzik | you need a lighter OH | 14:21 |
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| coderus | entil: binary-only what? | 14:24 |
| coderus | its FOSS project | 14:24 |
| coderus | TMavica_Jolla_: lol. talking what? | 14:24 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | mitakuuluu | 14:25 |
| coderus | TMavica_Jolla_: ask him please, i want to move to finland and work in Jolla, i can work just for eat and live first time :) | 14:25 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ... | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | we do have good beanbags.. | 14:25 |
| kimmoli | coderus: :) | 14:25 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | wait | 14:25 |
| kimmoli | and lots of free space | 14:25 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | i try | 14:25 |
| kimmoli | Stskeeps: beanbags, good for eat and sleep ? | 14:27 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | coderus. marc thinking how answer u | 14:29 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | he doesnt remember the story, lol | 14:29 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | i just show this conversation to him | 14:30 |
| coderus | i just want to work in Jolla, but first time i tried there are wasnt any chance to hire anybody | 14:30 |
| coderus | some bad situation, something similar | 14:31 |
| coderus | show this one: https://twitter.com/MarcDillonDotFi/status/458552846301274112 | 14:31 |
| coderus | hope he remember | 14:31 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ....this is not too convience do this for me to him | 14:32 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | lol | 14:32 |
| coderus | :D: | 14:32 |
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| coderus | just you near marc, not me :D | 14:32 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | too embarrassing for me, lol | 14:33 |
| coderus | please ^____^ | 14:33 |
| Kiranos | TMavica_Jolla_: just ask about keyboard toh I'm sure he has'nt heard that question in a while :P | 14:36 |
| coderus | TMavica_Jolla_: just show this tweet from him to me, it help to remember :) https://twitter.com/MarcDillonDotFi/status/458552846301274112 | 14:37 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ...... | 14:38 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | too hard for me. lol | 14:38 |
| coderus | TMavica_Jolla_: okay, i'll just tweet him, just ask to check twitter :D | 14:39 |
| coderus | oaky? | 14:39 |
| Kiranos | TMavica_Jolla_: another serious question would be about the "maps" app the official gps, what the upcoming plans is for that app | 14:40 |
| Kiranos | its missing speech turn by turn | 14:40 |
| gexc | no contract-free jollas in HK? | 14:41 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | i not a bug reporter now, lol | 14:43 |
| Nicd- | poor marc, can't even go to a bar without being hassled with questions :P | 14:44 |
| Hartzi | life is tough | 14:45 |
| Hartzi | especially for a sailor | 14:45 |
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| kimmoli | TMavica_Jolla_: But you can pass congrats for conquering HK from me | 14:48 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | ok | 14:50 |
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| coderus | very important tjc with no attention: https://together.jolla.com/question/46463/android-apps-sound-has-a-delay/ | 14:50 |
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| TMavica_Jolla_ | nice talk with marc tonight | 16:16 |
| TMavica_Jolla_ | but tomorrow meet him again, lol | 16:16 |
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| cybette | TMavica_Jolla: great! :D | 16:26 |
| TMavica_Jolla | lol | 16:26 |
| TMavica_Jolla | we will meet tomorrow again | 16:27 |
| coderus | TMavica_Jolla: please ask for me ^_^ | 16:27 |
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| TMavica_Jolla | lol.. | 16:27 |
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| coderus | ._. please | 16:32 |
| coderus | ask if he wont check twitter til tomorrow | 16:32 |
| TMavica_Jolla | he has chk but not reply u, lol | 16:33 |
| coderus | :O awwww... | 16:34 |
| TMavica_Jolla | hahaha | 16:34 |
| TMavica_Jolla | he just said hv a story, but i havent ask deeply | 16:35 |
| TMavica_Jolla | i said u are god amd expert, i already do my best | 16:35 |
| TMavica_Jolla | try tomorrow again | 16:35 |
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| coderus | i just want to be sure he remember this story | 16:37 |
| coderus | and it's okay | 16:37 |
| coderus | you can simply ask to let know when jolla can hire :) | 16:37 |
| coderus | nothing personal ;) | 16:37 |
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| TMavica_Jolla | ok. see see tomorrow | 16:39 |
| coderus | and i'll go for tickets to Finland then :D | 16:40 |
| TMavica_Jolla | lol | 16:40 |
| coderus | really :D | 16:40 |
| TMavica_Jolla | i also want u be in | 16:41 |
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| coderus | i have all my clothes and other things already in boxes ready to move :D | 16:43 |
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| cvp_ | hi :) | 19:06 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: ping when in Finland, i own you a beer :) or two | 19:10 |
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| Sail0r | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/google_leaves_stupid_vuln_on_nest_devices/ | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | you call it vulnerability, i call it opportunity.. | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | SailfishOS on Nest? :D | 19:15 |
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| juiceme | kimmoli, hiya :) | 19:15 |
| juiceme | just got the TOHOLED today, as I came back from holidayts | 19:16 |
| kimmoli | juiceme: hiu2 | 19:16 |
| Sail0r | Stskeeps: lol ;) | 19:16 |
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| juiceme | it had been sitting in my inbox for some time... | 19:16 |
| kimmoli | seems so... | 19:17 |
| kimmoli | juiceme: ##kimmoli-tohs | 19:17 |
| juiceme | the finishing of the TOH is exquisite, I like the rough feel of the plastic | 19:17 |
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| juiceme | kimmoli, thanks | 19:17 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: ok :) | 19:38 |
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| Nightmare__ | https://together.jolla.com/question/36261/add-multiple-wlan-wifi-networks-with-same-ssid/ <-- vote :) | 19:52 |
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