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| sharpneli | Oh Jolla | 03:46 |
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| sharpneli | I went to Vancouver | 03:46 |
| sharpneli | I had time autosync on | 03:46 |
| sharpneli | Jolla displayed time that is 3 hours wrong. It selected toronto timezone | 03:46 |
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| walokra | it showed your internal clock :) | 07:08 |
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| * Stskeeps returns from his summer vacation | 08:25 | |
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| Morpog_PC | \o/ | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | i even have a tan by now | 08:26 |
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| Morpog_PC | I never get a tan, I just turn red :D | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | wellll | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | it certainly burnt quite a bit | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:27 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | 2 hours in the sun -> massive sunburn on my back | 08:27 |
| Morpog_PC | i know the feeling | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | i should get out more | 08:29 |
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| Stskeeps | artemma: just got back to my home desk, will review your endurance when i'm back at work truly on tuesday | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | sorry for delay, my laptop got stolen while on holiday | 08:32 |
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| artemma | Stskeeps: thx | 08:34 |
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| artemma | and sorry for the event - it sucks :/ | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | (my precioussssss s10-3t) | 08:34 |
| artemma | I hope everythign was encrypted and insurance kicked in | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, well, nothing useful on it and sadly not, but it practically had gift value | 08:34 |
| artemma | I have much longer endurance results by now and some more comments too, but no time to upload now.. | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | it was from meego conference in dublin | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 08:35 |
| Yaniel | interesting sudden shutdowns again | 08:35 |
| artemma | Good that you came back, I was almost going to throw my Jolla at the wall: can't tolerate the frozen bitch anymiore | 08:35 |
| Yaniel | a sudden shutdown out of the blue, booted the phone just to see it shut down again | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: i'm looking forward to dive into them, i can understand your frustration | 08:36 |
| Yaniel | booted again, it shut down and rebooted itself | 08:36 |
| Yaniel | shortly showed 4% battery and shut down again | 08:36 |
| Yaniel | (it had shown 50% before) | 08:36 |
| Morpog_PC | Yaniel, remove battery, press power button, wait a few minutes | 08:36 |
| Morpog_PC | insert battery, boot up | 08:37 |
| Yaniel | and when I booted it again, 50% battery again | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: does it often happen while mobile, or when static? also, latest update? | 08:37 |
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| artemma | Stskeeps: I noticed one particular pattern (no, it doesn't happen always by often). Jolla is a little slow, I lock it with key, screen goes black. Then I try unlocking wiuth key and after a sec of delay I get red led flashing (sometimes green after it), unlock happenes some 2-5 sec later and phone is much slower | 08:37 |
| artemma | Stskeeps: whats static? | 08:37 |
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| artemma | reboot fixes situation at least a little usually | 08:39 |
| AL13N | artemma: i've had this before, iinm that's the UI hanging, and when it gets resolved, for some reason it'll soon do that again... the best way is to reboot, i don't have it that often, but now and then again | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: as in 'in one location' | 08:41 |
| artemma | AL13N: I suspect that something gets disconnected on my jolla often on HW level (SIM card?) and phone has to reconnect often. Then SW stack fails to reconnect everything and some resources/CPU processing around them keeps hanging | 08:41 |
| AL13N | no, i doubt that's related | 08:42 |
| artemma | Stskeeps: yes, happens when I just stay at home too. But way more often when I chaneg location | 08:42 |
| AL13N | it's probably more to do with memory shortage, or some app and/or UI misbehaving and using too much memory | 08:42 |
| AL13N | or the the UI having deadlock from a race condition | 08:43 |
| artemma | At some point I was linking it to mem use clearly (start browser, instagram, email, jolla - slowness guaranteed), but maybe it was just network related | 08:44 |
| artemma | Jolla fights against my sport nowadays :) | 08:45 |
| artemma | My gym is located in my building (small and bad one, but it's in my building - I just take elevator to 1st floor!) | 08:45 |
| artemma | And I like playing music from my Jolla to my bluetooth speakers when practicing | 08:46 |
| artemma | problem is that travel in home wifi -> steel elevator -> mobile data generates roughly exactly same lentgth of freezing period as my training | 08:47 |
| artemma | that doesn't tell good about my training length.. | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: okay, sounds connectivity related somehow | 08:50 |
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| artemma | or it could be about connectivity *as well* :D | 08:50 |
| Morpog_PC | finally younited for jolla | 08:53 |
| Morpog_PC | oh, it's the old announcement :( | 08:54 |
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| * artemma things zzste was telling on twitter something about continuing work with fsecure | 09:01 | |
| artemma | *thinks* | 09:02 |
| artemma | that was about 1-2 months ago | 09:02 |
| artemma | though in honesty I am not sure why fsecure would care abt delivering younited exactly for jolla except for marketing reasons | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: i hate to ask this but can you try some hours in airplane mode? | 09:04 |
| artemma | Stskeeps: I actually can, just not on the weekend | 09:05 |
| artemma | office time okay? | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:05 |
| artemma | just tell what exactly to do | 09:05 |
| artemma | in fact, it switches to arplane mode on it's own sometimes anyway :) | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | uhh :P | 09:05 |
| artemma | I notice it by a connection dialog appearing and at least couple of times I went to settings and noticed it can't connect to gsm net | 09:06 |
| artemma | for something like a minute | 09:06 |
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| Kiranos | 11days and no reboot since I turned of wifi and only use mobile data | 09:26 |
| Kiranos | else it could reboot very often when there was either bad reception on wifi or 2g/3g switch | 09:27 |
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| Kiranos | now its been stable | 09:27 |
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| Kiranos | will see when I go to work tomorrown and I use the phone on different locations more often | 09:27 |
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| chem|st | hmm my lock-screen ambience-switcher seems gone... this is lipstick right? | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | make sure to have 2 favourite ambiences | 09:50 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: only the lock-screen switcher! | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ... lock screen switcher? | 09:51 |
| chem|st | ambience-switcher | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | (sorry, vacation brain still..) | 09:51 |
| chem|st | hehe | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | my e-mail is overflowing :( | 09:52 |
| chem|st | so it seems gone for good, restarting lipstick did nothing | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | 3rd party patch? | 09:53 |
| chem|st | not that I remember | 09:53 |
| chem|st | I had patchmanager installed before it got flashed | 09:54 |
| chem|st | but I think I never installed it after I got it from care | 09:54 |
| chem|st | I reboot now, will see what happens then | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | well, good to double check | 09:55 |
| chem|st | nope does not show | 09:56 |
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| chem|st | what is the path to the config file for that so I can check if I was stupid? | 09:57 |
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| chem|st | hmm my bash historz shows nothing special for after when I had trouble with thumbnails and that was something I recognized from lock-screen-ambience-switcher | 10:00 |
| chem|st | afterwards I removed simkit and activated persistence for journald | 10:01 |
| chem|st | deactivating all ambiences so the switcher gets deactivated and set them again did not help either... | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | did you favourite them? | 10:05 |
| chem|st | yes 5 items | 10:06 |
| chem|st | I do have the switcher at the home-screen though | 10:06 |
| Skorpy | ^ | 10:10 |
| Skorpy | same goes for me. after last update, the switcher has not been available from lockscreen | 10:10 |
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| TMavica | stskeeps: any idea i cant log in Jolla shop ? | 10:12 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: no sorry, not my area | 10:13 |
| TMavica | ok | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | mail care@ perhaps or any listed e-mails | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | i'm first truly back on tuesday | 10:13 |
| TMavica | i guess u in Hong kong, lol | 10:16 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: did you stay home with you family or did you really go for vacation? offline? | 10:16 |
| chem|st | Skorpy: hmm I had it available but now it is gone | 10:17 |
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| coderus | ambience page was disabled on lockscreen. it's feature. read release notes. | 10:29 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: 1 week at the beach in poland, 1 week in denmark | 11:40 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: laptop got stolen in first week so i was reasonably offline | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:40 |
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| gogeta | Stskeeps: i'm sorry stskeeps | 11:42 |
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| Stskeeps | so it goes | 11:47 |
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| gogeta | I hope everything was backuped and encrypted ? | 11:50 |
| Morpog_PC | it wasn't | 11:51 |
| chem|st | coderus: as if I read release notes... and WTF! | 11:51 |
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| Morpog_PC | read log ;) | 11:51 |
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| svuorela | Stskeeps: you were in denmark and didn't say hi? *sadface*. | 11:57 |
| pXd | hi :) | 11:57 |
| pXd | nice to see that there are so many ppl on this channel. | 11:59 |
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| pXd | i have a question, do you ppl know whether jolla will release a new phone/hardware soon? i would really like to get a jolla-phone, so i'm not 100% sure if i should get it right away or whether i should wait a bit for a new device with "better" specs. | 12:02 |
| PeperJohnny | My best guess would be sometime next year. | 12:03 |
| svuorela | I want a tablet sizedthing | 12:04 |
| PeperJohnny | would be nice to have | 12:04 |
| pXd | PeperJohnny: ah, i see. well, i don't want to wait that long ;) so i will get the first revision instead. | 12:04 |
| pXd | 350€ is an acceptable price anyways. | 12:05 |
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| pXd | another question: is the exchange-support of sailfish os actually useable? | 12:08 |
| PeperJohnny | It works, however i have problems with rules that put emails in some folders and apparently Jolla won't look in to them for new messages. But to be fair, I didn't try to resolve this one yet | 12:08 |
| pXd | i see. yeah, i experienced that issue with older versions of android as well, no big deal i could live with that. more important to me is that the calender and contact-sync works in both ways. | 12:10 |
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| PeperJohnny | Calender works like a charm. contactwise i cannot give an exact answer as my we had an exchange crash and it could have messed up my contacts as well ;) | 12:12 |
| pXd | since how long you are using jolla/sailfish so far, btw? and which mobile os did you use before? | 12:13 |
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| PeperJohnny | Since dec2013 and i had a n900 before | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | svuorela: since i'm danish it's a bit tight to even fit my family into a week ;) | 12:14 |
| PeperJohnny | So I'm pretty forgiving in terms of errors ;) | 12:14 |
| pXd | ah, cool. i have been using android for the last 5-6 years. but now it's time for something new. i love linux and i really like the open-approach of sailfish. | 12:16 |
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| pXd | ssh-access out of of the box is awesome. :) | 12:17 |
| PeperJohnny | yep =) | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | and ssh access into the box too | 12:19 |
| pXd | ^^ | 12:19 |
| Yaniel | (pun intended) | 12:19 |
| PeperJohnny | works way better than mtp and linux^^ | 12:19 |
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| svuorela | Stskeeps: oh. I wasn't aware of that. why have all our private chats in the past then been in engrish? :) | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | svuorela: i'm much better technically in english :P | 12:24 |
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| chem|st | svuorela: nexus 7 2012 is 160eur refurbished... | 12:53 |
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| flux | is there any chance jolla's android-stack will support android Bluetooth4 interfaces with current hardware? | 13:25 |
| flux | or, would it be possible for a party external to Jolla provide that support.. | 13:26 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | iow: you want to know if it's possible in software? | 13:41 |
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| noch | I am trying to order Jolla smartphone,(I hope it will be deliveried in two weeks, otherwise it won't reach my friend in Belgium), and it suggests me the _white_ color of the other half. Can I choose some other default color? Not from additional other halves, but one of defaults? Cannot find the way to do it. | 15:09 |
| Yaniel | at the moment, no | 15:10 |
| noch | wow | 15:10 |
| noch | when it'll be possible? was it possible before? | 15:10 |
| Sail0r | it was never possible | 15:10 |
| noch | but I felt I know that people were receiving Jolla's with default green, or pink other halves, not the white one. They were making photos of it. | 15:11 |
| noch | and those colors are not available online as an additional option. | 15:12 |
| noch | may be it's just an impression, trying to find this on the net. | 15:12 |
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| Sail0r | I think everybody receives it with the white one | 15:13 |
| Sail0r | and they just swap it | 15:13 |
| Sail0r | even the first ones were sent out with the white and the first one | 15:13 |
| noch | i remember the green other half. not aloe. | 15:13 |
| noch | wow. | 15:13 |
| Sail0r | there was never a green one for public | 15:13 |
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| noch | (: | 15:14 |
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| noch | okay, can I get it tax free? | 15:17 |
| Sail0r | I think no | 15:18 |
| noch | or a ticket to get the tax back at the airport? | 15:18 |
| tbr | I don't think so | 15:19 |
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| chem|st | coderus: ehrm did you mean the bug that was solved? I cannot find any changlog saying that the ambience-switcher got removed | 15:29 |
| noch | ok, it suggests fedex for 15 euros, 2-4 days for delivery. otherwise delivery won't take more than two weeks right? | 15:29 |
| chem|st | if it is on stock and fedex is not doing funny stuff with it... it will take about 4 days | 15:32 |
| noch | i mean without checking that option. | 15:32 |
| noch | (: | 15:32 |
| noch | w/o fedex services | 15:33 |
| chem|st | what is the option without fedex? shipped by drone? | 15:35 |
| tadzik | noch: white is the one you get for free | 15:39 |
| tadzik | you can pay extra for a fancy other half, or buy it from a 3rd party | 15:39 |
| tadzik | or take a spraypaint and turn your Snow White into whatever you want :) | 15:39 |
| noch | thank you, yes, I already get it. but when I buy it, there is an option to check - to pay 15 euro to fedex. it's optional. I would like to know how it'll be deliveried without fedex, if I don't pay those 15 euros. | 15:40 |
| tadzik | ah, I don't think you can avoid that | 15:41 |
| tadzik | if you don't want to pay 15€, you can google for "jolla discount code" :D | 15:41 |
| tadzik | been there, done that, worked | 15:41 |
| noch | wow | 15:41 |
| tadzik | see also: every other shop and every other electronics you ever buy | 15:42 |
| tadzik | there's always a discount code somewhere | 15:42 |
| noch | wow | 15:42 |
| noch | thank you | 15:42 |
| tadzik | you're welcome | 15:43 |
| tadzik | otoh, if you're already paying 349€, 15€ is a joke amount compared to that :) | 15:43 |
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| tadzik | 4%, if my math is right | 15:43 |
| ln- | would you like to send 15€ to my paypal account as a joke? | 15:45 |
| tadzik | not unless I'm about to send 349€ to it | 15:45 |
| tadzik | what I mean is, I don't see how it's a big deal to pay the horrendous amount of 15€ when you're already paying 349€ | 15:46 |
| tadzik | it's not like getting a mechanical keyboard shipped from the US, where shipping costs basically double the price | 15:46 |
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| noch | tadzik: do you know anything about tax free check then? the tax is 71 euro, which is more than 15. | 15:49 |
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| tadzik | noch: heh, no idea | 15:49 |
| tadzik | but I don't remember paying an additional 71€ tax, in fact I'm pretty sure I did not | 15:49 |
| noch | I had an impression that it's included in the 349 price. | 15:50 |
| smoku_work | AFAIK there is no tax-free shipping. usually you pay the full price, and then apply for tax-return at your customs office | 15:55 |
| pXd | hmm, inside/within the EU there shouldn't be any additional taxes. | 15:55 |
| noch | smoku_work: yes, but you get a ticket from the seller. special tax free coupon. | 15:56 |
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| smoku_work | noch: never heard of such thing. in Poland the standard invoice from the seller is enough. | 16:00 |
| smoku_work | (it has to be translated, but not notarialy, so I'm doing the translations myself ;-) | 16:01 |
| noch | smoku_work: thank you. do you receive such an invoice from Jolla with phone? | 16:02 |
| smoku_work | noch: yes | 16:03 |
| noch | thank you. | 16:03 |
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| coderus | chem|st: em, what? | 16:36 |
| coderus | you just cant switch ambience from lockscreen, you can switch it from tasks only | 16:37 |
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| chem|st | coderus: yes I can switch it from home-screen only | 17:30 |
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| chem|st | and yes it seems to be a "feature", at least people think it is one from last upgrade, but it is not in the changelog | 17:31 |
| coderus | okay, then i saw it from some of sailors (about "feature" status of this change) | 17:32 |
| chem|st | and I just did not recognize until lately as after entering the lock-code you end up on home-screen anyways... hopefully they come up with a combined settings-ambience-screen as the settings favourites are something I actually do not want to toggle by choosing an ambience | 17:35 |
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| kimmoli | hmm.. seems that it is possible that lockcode gets corrupted.. | 17:51 |
| kimmoli | had to reboot before it was accepted | 17:52 |
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| rubdos | People using K-9 as mailclient on Jolla? | 18:03 |
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