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| Bysmyyr | something trance happening... After night, newest command was devel-su, which I have not used in a while. Also devel-su password was changed (that can be happened earlier because I havenät used it lately) | 04:25 |
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| Bysmyyr | *strange | 04:25 |
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| Bysmyyr | same time ssh fingerprint got changed | 04:33 |
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| Nicd- | matrixx: have you got it yet? | 05:47 |
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| coderus | Bysmyyr: someone hacked your phone | 06:39 |
| coderus | Bysmyyr: doesnt let phone connected to wifi over night | 06:39 |
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| junnuvi_ | Does anyone here remember was there some way to change font size in sailfish? | 06:55 |
| Hartzi | how's that possible | 06:55 |
| tbr | evil ancient alien haxx0rz | 06:55 |
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| AL13N_work | tbr: hmm? | 07:29 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 07:59 |
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| matrixx | Nicd-: nope, it's estimated to leave shapeways on 19th | 09:27 |
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| kimmoli | matrixx: shapeways estimates has been really pessimistic. usually shipped few days in advance | 09:42 |
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| kimmoli | matrixx: but UPS takes 4-5 days, so based on my experience, i would say that you will receive it by that estimated shipping date. | 09:46 |
| matrixx | kimmoli: that sounds good :) | 09:46 |
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| kimmoli | i ordered that today, estimated 18th Aug :) | 09:52 |
| matrixx | kimmoli: haha, you estimate sooner than mine :D | 09:54 |
| matrixx | your | 09:54 |
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| junnuvi_ | I ordered two weeks ago.. should arrive very soon I think | 09:56 |
| junnuvi_ | 08/07/2014 12:05 P.M. The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city. | 09:57 |
| kimmoli | delivery time depends on material/color | 09:57 |
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| VDVsx | kimmoli, colleague just got lego TOH from them, ordered around end of last month | 10:06 |
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| AL13N_work | kimmoli: color? | 10:20 |
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| AL13N_work | VDVsx: lego TOH? | 10:21 |
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| VDVsx | AL13N_work, this kind: https://twitter.com/llewelld/status/493315518141853696/photo/1 | 10:26 |
| AL13N_work | btw: the hong kong thing, is that like a locked sim version thing? or is jolla just as open there as it is here? | 10:27 |
| AL13N_work | VDVsx: who make these TOH's? i thought there were only 3 available? | 10:28 |
| VDVsx | these guys: https://twitter.com/shapeways | 10:29 |
| kimmoli | therse are 3rd party TOHs, like my toholed. | 10:29 |
| iamtew | hold up! lego TOH? | 10:29 |
| VDVsx | yup printed stuff, more here: https://twitter.com/llewelld/status/488681659362201601/photo/1 | 10:29 |
| iamtew | that is brilliant.. | 10:29 |
| AL13N_work | right, shapeways is a market for 3D printing, so who is actually designing it? | 10:29 |
| iamtew | http://www.shapeways.com/designer/flypig?li=pb | 10:30 |
| iamtew | that guy | 10:30 |
| AL13N_work | i wonder how much it costs | 10:30 |
| iamtew | around 20 euro it seems | 10:30 |
| kimmoli | http://www.flypig.co.uk/toh/ | 10:31 |
| iamtew | http://www.flypig.co.uk/toh/specials.html | 10:31 |
| iamtew | that seems to be his website for it | 10:31 |
| kimmoli | shapeways shipping is typically 7eur (+vat) | 10:31 |
| iamtew | ouch! | 10:31 |
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| AL13N_work | magnetic lens | 10:32 |
| AL13N_work | wow | 10:32 |
| kimmoli | lenses http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4in1-FishEye-Wide-Angle-Micro-Telephoto-Camera-Lens-for-Galaxy-S5-S4-Note-3-2-/161348558708?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item25911f9f74 | 10:36 |
| kimmoli | aource: http://www.jollatides.com/forums/discussion/comment/1655#Comment_1655 | 10:37 |
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| AL13N_work | wow 4 lenses at 8£ | 10:44 |
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| junnuvi_ | lego oh arrived.. no so good than I expected. Attachment to phone is pretty loose :/ | 11:38 |
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| junnuvi_ | and also lego side pins are too small, loose attachments for bricks too | 11:39 |
| suosaaski | pics? url? :) | 11:40 |
| Nicd- | preferably close pics | 11:40 |
| junnuvi_ | soon, I have to find my camera somewhere :P | 11:41 |
| Sailor8855 | is it suitable for lego? | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | junnuvi_: they did mention the attachment to lego bricks is not that firm | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | Sailor8855: yes, you can attach lego to it but the connection is not that good | 11:43 |
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| junnuvi_ | yes I know, but still I expected better fit | 11:43 |
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| Sailor8855 | isnt it solid？ | 11:44 |
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| Nicd- | I don't expect a lot from 3d printed stuff | 11:46 |
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| junnuvi_ | Sailor8855_: material is pretty thin, so it's not so solid either | 11:51 |
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| junnuvi_ | looks good, feels good but too loose attachment to phone | 11:53 |
| Sailor8855_ | how do you fell when the phobe in hand | 11:54 |
| junnuvi_ | like a lego plate as expected :P | 11:55 |
| kimmoli | junnuvi_: does it "fall off" or how would you describe the actual problem of fit? | 11:56 |
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| junnuvi_ | kimmoli: almost yes | 11:58 |
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| Nicd- | oh, that's bad :/ | 12:00 |
| kimmoli | i have one in order too. I had same issues with toholed prints, but latest revision seems to be much better. altough there is lots of variations between prints | 12:00 |
| junnuvi_ | if I try to raise my phone from table by grapping from oh phone will mostly stay on table and I have only oh in my hands | 12:01 |
| suosaaski | sounds... useless. | 12:02 |
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| junnuvi_ | kimmoli: what do you think will happen if I give some heat to oh? | 12:03 |
| kimmoli | i noticed that heating was temporarily solution :( | 12:04 |
| kimmoli | i heated one gently, and placed it under stress with rubberstraps overnight, it worked for a day. | 12:05 |
| kimmoli | but i have plenty of scrap to do tests with | 12:05 |
| junnuvi_ | :) | 12:08 |
| junnuvi_ | http://jolla.tutkalla.com/toh/ | 12:08 |
| kimmoli | http://kimmoli.tumblr.com/ | 12:09 |
| Nicd- | the lego one looks good at least. but if it doesn't stay on... :/ | 12:12 |
| mikma | it's only good if you really can stick legoblocks in it! | 12:12 |
| suosaaski | it should be smoother, though. | 12:12 |
| junnuvi_ | Nicd-: duck tape? :) | 12:12 |
| Nicd- | would rather not pay 20 € for something I have to use duct tape with :P | 12:13 |
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| junnuvi_ | maybe I just had bad luck, lefts hope so | 12:17 |
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| kimmoli | if my part fails, i need to consult David how to improve it | 12:26 |
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| kimmoli | and, based on your info, just cancelled my block-toh order. | 12:36 |
| kimmoli | decided that i make my own, with mindstorm i2c port :p | 12:36 |
| mdxth | :D | 12:37 |
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| junnuvi_ | kimmoli: actually I was just going to ask about mindstorms toh :) | 12:43 |
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| Sailor8855_ | how to use dbus to launch camera？ | 12:49 |
| SK_work | Sailor8855_: hum | 12:51 |
| SK_work | you canot | 12:51 |
| SK_work | maybe you can invoke it through QProcess | 12:51 |
| Sailor8855_ | cannot？ | 12:51 |
| Sailor8855_ | why？ | 12:51 |
| tbr | there are some apps that start camera, look at how they are doing it. | 12:51 |
| matrixx | Camera qml api? | 12:58 |
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| Sailor8855_ | i want to use power button to launch camera so i need dbus | 13:05 |
| matrixx | :/ | 13:06 |
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| gexc | :-O | 13:21 |
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| kimmoli | junnuvi_: hmm, seems that the plastic expands when heated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Ys4vPDgm0 | 13:28 |
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| AL13N_work | O_o | 13:35 |
| AL13N_work | kimmoli: i guess now we know why it's cheap | 13:36 |
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| TMavica | there is many Jolla party night in Hong Kong, not just 1 day... | 13:47 |
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| SK_work | TMavica: yaay :) | 13:54 |
| TMavica | but... | 13:54 |
| TMavica | i not in first day. | 13:54 |
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| AL13N_work | it wasn't 12th aug? | 13:55 |
| SK_work | :( | 13:55 |
| TMavica | Jolla fake us | 13:55 |
| TMavica | 12/8 is first day, still have 13/8 14/8 15/8 16/8 -.- | 13:55 |
| SK_work | TMavica: it is because of success ? | 13:56 |
| TMavica | but i want go at first day | 13:56 |
| AL13N_work | maybe only the 12/8 there's that exclusive offer | 13:56 |
| TMavica | AL13N_work: i think so | 13:56 |
| AL13N_work | probably just too much request | 13:56 |
| TMavica | there is many advertisement in network already.. | 13:56 |
| SK_work | TMavica: tell them | 13:56 |
| SK_work | ping cybette | 13:56 |
| AL13N_work | does SK_work stands for Skunk_Works? | 13:57 |
| TMavica | they have found some good facebook page and little famous people to advertise their product | 13:57 |
| TMavica | LOL | 13:57 |
| SK_work | AL13N_work: SK is Sfiet_Konstantin, and I'm not Stskeeps :P | 13:57 |
| AL13N_work | i thought Skunk_works was larger than just stskeeps? | 13:57 |
| TMavica | i dont know who sailor will be at Hong Kong | 13:58 |
| SK_work | AL13N_work: it is, but it's mainly stskeeps that's in it | 13:58 |
| AL13N_work | ok | 13:58 |
| SK_work | however, I'm not against doing experiments these days | 13:58 |
| SK_work | (patchmanager / phonebot / the yet to be named web-app hosted on jolla) | 13:58 |
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| AL13N_work | TMavica: maybe cybette will be there? she's asian, iirc, so she might be living there? | 13:58 |
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| TMavica | i think stskeep and cybette will be here | 13:59 |
| TMavica | but i lost contact with them | 13:59 |
| TMavica | LOL | 13:59 |
| AL13N_work | TMavica: maybe they are on-route | 13:59 |
| tbr | AL13N_work: she lives in Tampere, Finland and no AFAIK she's on vacation | 13:59 |
| TMavica | i think so | 13:59 |
| AL13N_work | tbr: oh ok | 14:00 |
| TMavica | tbr: who will be in Hong Kong? | 14:00 |
| tbr | TMavica: no idea | 14:00 |
| AL13N_work | stskeeps is from UK, right? | 14:00 |
| tbr | AL13N_work: no, he lives in warsaw, poland | 14:00 |
| AL13N_work | or is he in .fi too? | 14:00 |
| AL13N_work | ok, lol | 14:00 |
| AL13N_work | i'll need to redo geographuy | 14:00 |
| TMavica | any sailor can put me at 12/8 instead of 13/8??????????????????????????? | 14:01 |
| AL13N_work | TMavica: i doubt that, btw, if 12/8 is filled up, you probably can't be fit in | 14:01 |
| TMavica | i rush in | 14:01 |
| TMavica | LOL | 14:01 |
| AL13N_work | TMavica: too bad it's not tokyo | 14:02 |
| AL13N_work | they can fit alot of people in a subway car | 14:02 |
| AL13N_work | ok, bad joke | 14:02 |
| AL13N_work | time to go home? | 14:02 |
| TMavica | Jolla advestisement speak too much in android apps.. | 14:02 |
| TMavica | it is not good | 14:03 |
| iamtew | agreed | 14:03 |
| iamtew | didn't that pretty much ruin the blackberry app ecosystem? when blackberry could do andriod apps | 14:03 |
| TMavica | the model in Hong Kong show the Jolla device, only said can install android apps | 14:03 |
| iamtew | can't remember, haven't used blackberries in years | 14:03 |
| AL13N_work | iamtew: QED | 14:04 |
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| iamtew | AL13N_work: pardon? | 14:04 |
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| AL13N_work | iamtew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.E.D. | 14:05 |
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| AL13N_work | it's what's traditionally at the bottom of a proof | 14:05 |
| iamtew | ok..? I'm not sure I follow, you're asking for a source of what I just said about Blackberry? | 14:06 |
| AL13N_work | iamtew: | 14:06 |
| AL13N_work | no | 14:06 |
| AL13N_work | iamtew: you said at first "didn't that pretty much ruin the blackberry app ecosystem? when blackberry could do andriod apps" | 14:06 |
| AL13N_work | and then you state "can't remember, haven't used blackberries in years" | 14:06 |
| AL13N_work | it's like the proof to the first question | 14:06 |
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| AL13N_work | that's why i say QED | 14:07 |
| iamtew | aah | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | the proof in the theory is that you can't even remember | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | it's a bad attempt at a joke | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | i really need to go home now | 14:07 |
| iamtew | no worries :) | 14:07 |
| TMavica | c u | 14:08 |
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| iamtew | nah, I can't find references to the article I read, but it was long time ago anyway | 14:10 |
| iamtew | I would really like to see Firefox run native on the Jolla though... | 14:10 |
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| gexc | isn't the stock browser firefox? | 14:18 |
| gexc | not the extensions-powered-firefox though LOL | 14:19 |
| Nicd- | it's gecko | 14:19 |
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| TMavica | Antti Saarnio invite me to have a small party | 14:20 |
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| gexc | would there be repair services in hk? | 14:24 |
| TMavica | dont know | 14:25 |
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| gexc | wondering if the 1-year service is global | 14:25 |
| gexc | there is a small repair office in china, but don't know if it would provide service to units not bought from them :-/ | 14:26 |
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| gexc | are there logs for ambience changes? | 14:30 |
| gexc | it would be interesting if there is some statistics | 14:30 |
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| Kiranos | my phone crashed frequently after last update, just rebooted. I've now turned off wifi completely and the uptime is 10days from that time. Anyone else seen this behaviour? | 15:44 |
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| eyea_UK | jolla )0!1@ joy | 17:52 |
| eyea_UK | all good | 17:52 |
| FireFly | Kiranos: weird, might be related to the connman changes in last update | 17:56 |
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| eyea_UK | in the main pulldown Io | 18:01 |
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| eyea_UK | only get silence sound | 18:01 |
| eyea_UK | and nothing els | 18:01 |
| eyea_UK | i used to get setting and stuff | 18:02 |
| eyea_UK | does anybody know if this is an error | 18:02 |
| AL13N | this guys is brilliant, we all need to do this the next month: https://plus.google.com/+ChrisBlasko/posts/GzCuzTyUXNq | 18:03 |
| eyea_UK | since i updated | 18:03 |
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| eyea_UK | ? | 18:08 |
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| eyea_UK | could some one help if this is an error | 18:09 |
| kimmoli | eyea_UK: those are configurable now | 18:13 |
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| eyea_UK | configure how | 18:14 |
| chem|st | eyea_UK: settings shortcuts | 18:15 |
| kimmoli | Settings, system shortcuts | 18:15 |
| kimmoli | 2nd in the list there | 18:15 |
| chem|st | eyea_UK: I have no idea why they removed the standardset though - default should be 4 standard shortcuts just like the favourites menu in settings or the launcher... | 18:16 |
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| eyea_UK | thanks | 18:20 |
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| eyea_UK | what where in the standard set | 18:22 |
| eyea_UK | camera | 18:22 |
| eyea_UK | settings | 18:22 |
| chem|st | settings-phone-camera-silent | 18:22 |
| eyea_UK | ok | 18:22 |
| eyea_UK | thanks | 18:22 |
| chem|st | I just added a together question for that, bluntly spoken it is just stupid to not have that set by default! | 18:23 |
| eyea_UK | true | 18:27 |
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| yunta | http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=HPVMMFT422 | 20:20 |
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| Kiranos | FireFly: yes its very weird, I'll keep it off ans see how it goes | 21:15 |
| Kiranos | but so far so good with wifi off | 21:15 |
| Kiranos | no reboots | 21:15 |
| Kiranos | my phone was never affected before the last couple of updates | 21:15 |
| Kiranos | never had to use the paper on battery fix | 21:16 |
| Kiranos | so I think its two different issues with the same symptom (reboot) | 21:16 |
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