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gexcis the system default font hardcoded?04:23
gexcmodifying local.conf seems not working04:23
* gexc is trying to replace the default font with comic sans HAHAHAHA04:24
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Teme:D06:24
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pp_so many places it could be set, strace -e open qtapp | grep .conf or whatnot06:28
pp_assuming the conf files get read on every app startup06:28
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gexcsaw it went through all the confs06:45
gexcand sail sans pro light got loaded :-/06:45
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xmlich02Hi, I have found a bug in email client. There is problem with folders. see screenshot http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/jolla-email.png; The evolution mail shows this http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/evolution.png07:39
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xmlich02It looks like there is about thousands of folders (the scroll decorator have about few pixels)07:41
VDVsxxmlich02, does it stay like that everytime you open the app and the folders list ?07:43
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xmlich02I would say, It is reproducible every time07:47
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VDVsxxmlich02, are you able to collect logs ? I can send you instructions07:50
xmlich02send me instructions07:50
xmlich02I will try my best (-;07:50
xmlich02As far as I know, there is some unusual settings on server for those folders (public-studinfo,fitinfo)07:51
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xmlich02I am not able to remove those folders in evolution mail.07:53
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xmlich02VDVsx, which logs do you need?08:26
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kimmolijollaRT woke up on twitter...08:32
artemmakimmoli: just 1 sec after your message in IRC, tweetdeck popped up a JollaRT's retweet of my tweet :)08:33
artemmafunny coincience08:33
kimmolilets see does jollaBot and JollaRT keep retweeting eachother08:35
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tbrkimmoli: naughty you ;->08:42
kimmoli?08:42
tbrI must say I'm quite pleased with cool-old-term as the terminal emulator for my irssi08:42
tbrkimmoli: sounded like you threw them in a loop08:43
kimmoli_=08:43
kimmoliah, i forget to test that cool-oldie08:43
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tbroh and cool-old-term is written in Qt5 <308:43
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kimmolithat i managed to notice too.08:43
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VDVsxxmlich02, http://pastebin.com/WVC8pUvh09:21
VDVsxinstructions there09:22
kimmolikjokinie: ping09:23
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xmlich02there is nothing suspicious in the log09:26
xmlich02VDVsx, http://pastebin.com/7yTzPhQh09:26
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xmlich02sorry, I sent tail, not whole file. Next pastebin is:09:29
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xmlich02VDVsx, http://pastebin.com/iivuCcym09:30
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kjokiniekimmoli: pong10:10
kimmolihi10:11
kimmoliis this something to worry about:  Jul 31 23:19:05 Jolla tohd[2947]: NFC stack possibly leaked 5 memory blocks10:11
kjokiniespiiroin: ^^10:11
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kjokiniekimmoli: I've been told over the desk that "no need to get worried"10:12
kimmoliSeems that current 3d print is FAIL, so the microswitch gets toggled a lot...10:12
kimmolithis is journal prior of two sudden reboots http://pastebin.com/tPMAwawD10:13
spiiroinkimmoli: it is just a "creative" fix for dealing with problems in android binary blobs ...10:13
kimmolicreative...10:14
VDVsxxmlich02, no retrieve folder list there, can you attempt sync from combined inbox instead or email cover ?10:14
VDVsxi.e sync all accounts10:14
kimmolialso when inserting TOH, the eeprom is read quite fast after microswitch gets switched on, and sometimes/usually it fails to read it as the pogos are not yet connected properly10:15
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kimmoliwhich causes that udevrule is not triggered and toholed daemon not started.10:17
kjokiniekimmoli: good point, should probably add some delay there10:17
kimmolijust what i was thinking of10:17
kjokinieor few retries10:17
kjokiniewith delay10:17
kimmolibut basically this thing works now nicely.10:18
kimmolijust have to bend TOH a little so that microswitch gets pressed last10:18
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artemmadoh, that slowness and freezing again10:27
artemmawhen Settings app "is not responding" - it's a bit too much, isn't it?10:27
xmlich02VDVsx, here is a log with sync from combined inbox http://pastebin.com/VF0deV1d10:28
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mjonesecloud: ping10:32
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VDVsxxmlich02, thanks a lot, will try to reproduce, it looks like it goes in loops because of these folders naming: "public/studinfo" actually is just one folder in your screenshot it appears to be two10:35
VDVsxxmlich02, can you open these folders normally on device ?10:35
xmlich02I can click to "studinfo" and it shows messages10:36
xmlich02I shows the same messages when I click to any folder named studinfo10:37
mekluthat's quite an interesting directory name10:39
VDVsxxmlich02, what about the ones named public ?10:42
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xmlich02VDVsx, In evolution mail look public folder empty. Jolla mail client says something like problem with synchronization.11:06
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xmlich02*looks11:06
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tbrhmmm interesting, device claims no sace on device, but there is space and it's not the btrfs exhaustion...12:37
tbrtime for a backup and then a reboot12:37
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ecloudmjones_: pong13:34
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pdanekHello guys,14:48
pdanekHow can I see full call log with dates and times?14:48
pdanekOn Jolla, when I call some contact I called before, it disappears in call log and appears in the top of the list with latest date. = WTF :O14:49
pdanekWhich means, there is no full call log on Jolla, I can't track when I called who :O14:49
pdanekAny app for that in Warehouse maybe?14:49
artemmahmm, could be a good 3rd party app idea14:49
tadzikdid you try that patch from patchmanager, for better call log?14:50
pdanekCHA!14:50
artemmathat is assuming call log actually exists in some db14:50
pdanektadzik: thanks!14:50
tadzikI don't know what it does, but if I wrote such patch it'd do exactly that :)14:50
tadzikpdanek: let me know if it's useful, I might want it too14:50
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SK_worktadzik: artemma libcommhistory it is (IIRC)15:42
SK_workthere is a privileged db15:42
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gexcany pastebin apps?15:56
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coderusgexc: for what purpose?16:11
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roborotadzik: I wrote that patch... it doesn't really mess with dates... it only forces the calllog to display the number for the contact that called16:14
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roboroI think that to fix what the jolla calllog does with organizing the calllog would require quite a rewrite of things... so I avoided it... to complicated to change16:16
roboroagreed that it is annoying that it groups together calls etc16:17
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gexccoderus: easy paste from fingerterm to here?16:20
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coderusgexc: just for me using website is easy too :)16:27
gexcLOL16:28
pdanekroboro: :(16:28
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pdanekI feel the world reinvents the wheel all the time.16:29
pdanekIn 2 years I expect some patch with amazing new feature: non-grouping full call log!16:29
pdanek:D16:29
roboropdanek: I feel your pain16:30
roboronot sure what the jolla team is trying to do with calllog... but I actually think that they've made it awfully complicated and less functional than it should be16:30
roboromaybe they got too excited about gestures and crap16:31
pdanek:D16:31
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roboroits just a list... it should show: contact name, number, date and time of call, length of call16:32
roborothat's all16:32
pdanekeven if they keep it like it is, I don't care16:33
pdanekbut if you click on call, there should be option for full call history with length and date/time16:33
pdanekI don't think it's too hard to implement16:33
pdanekbut it won't sell next 50.000 devices.... :(16:33
roborommmm wanna write a patch? :D16:33
pdanekI can't program.16:33
pdanekJust ksh/bash.16:34
roborogood time to start :D:D16:34
pdanekmore ksh actually16:34
pdanekweak in bash16:34
roboroactually the calllog patch that I did... doesn't really count as programming16:34
roboroits some very basic QML stuff :)16:34
coderusit's called coding16:34
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roborocoderus: meh... QML is a markup language... its like saying that writing HTML is coding16:35
coderusroboro: sure. html have much of codes16:36
roborogranted that you can include some javascript... and then you're programming16:36
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pdanekComputer programming (often shortened to programming) is a  process that leads from an original formulation of a computing problem  to executable programs. It involves activities such as analysis,  understanding, and generically solving such problems resulting in an algorithm,  verification of requirements of the algorithm including its correctness  and its resource consumption, implementation (commonly referred to as  coding) of the algorithm in a tar16:36
coderusroboro: only in case you understand this scripts16:36
coderusothervise its just coding too16:37
pdanekComputer programmers are those who write computer software. Their jobs usually involve:16:37
pdanek- Coding16:37
pdanek- Debugging16:37
pdanek- Documentation16:37
pdanek- Integration16:37
pdanek- Maintenance16:37
pdanek- Requirements analysis16:37
pdanek- Software architecture16:37
pdanek- Software testing16:37
pdanek- Specification16:37
pdanekBasically any implementation of code.16:37
pdanekIs coding.16:37
coderusexactly :D16:38
roboroheh... I have to find some of these programmers who do documentation... it would make my life so much easier :D:D:D16:38
pdanekWhile programming can be used for the whole process including testing, documenting etc.16:38
pdanek:D16:38
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pdanekCall log isn't documented?16:38
roboronot that I know of :)16:39
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roborowhich is pretty piss-poor... since I wrote a patch for it... and by trade I'm a tech author :D:D:D:D16:39
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sqozzhey everyone. Have someone an idea why my jolla reboots totaly random from time to time?16:43
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pdaneksqozz: paper-trick16:45
gexccontact careā„¢16:45
sqozzpdanek: paper-trick? :D16:45
sqozzgexc: care whould tell me to reset the phone. I'm interested in a reason16:46
tbrsqozz: properly clean the contact surfaces16:46
pdaneksqozz: https://together.jolla.com/question/7144/jolla-randomly-shuts-down-10819/16:46
gexcup to date system?16:46
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sqozzthanks for the tips. So it's a problem of poor hardware quality?16:51
sqozzYes, newest update since day one16:51
* gexc has remove the paper for a few months16:52
gexcmaybe one faulty unit?16:52
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sqozzone? This trick seems to help some people acording to the together-thread from pdanek above16:55
pdanekworth trying, you just need piece of paper, 2 hands (perhaps can be done with 1) and 1 minute Sailfish OS outage16:57
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gexcmaybe your unit has poorer contact?16:58
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pdanek10th of September!17:00
pdanekIt's coming.17:00
gexcnext update?17:00
pdanekApple event, iPhone 6 release.17:00
gexcwell... LOL17:00
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pdanekI never had an iPhone or any other Apple product, but I always watch their release keynotes, it's so entertaining.17:01
pdanekLike a full-time movie.17:01
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sqozzpdanek: more entertaining are the reactions on "the internet" about the new "features" that other systems have since a long time17:07
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Nicd-congrats jolla for launching at hk :)19:14
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pdanek1Is it hard to get an IT job in Kazakhstan without Russian language knowledge?19:43
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coderuspdanek: it's hard to get any work in Kazakhstan :D19:51
pdanekI thought IT jobs are needed everywhere.19:52
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