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| Sail0r | Jul 24 07:19:53 jolla DSME[588]: thermal: Suspicious battery temperature 47 (previous 52) | 06:34 |
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| chem|st | inte`: https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/ | 12:00 |
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| * tbr is becoming REALLY pissed that people keep bumping the SIP question as if this would be a feature that jolla must deliver. They specifically stated that they expect the community to bring this forward and would be willing to integrate/enable it if it proves to be working. | 12:07 | |
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| pp_ | wpa2 enterprise is a bit similar :-) | 12:15 |
| chem|st | the missing bash completion is really pissing me off right now! | 12:19 |
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| chem|st | tbr: I'd be more pissed that they even dare to ask jolla to fix mitakulu | 12:21 |
| tbr | pp_: there people figured out and then jolla implemented the changes | 12:21 |
| tbr | chem|st: don't use that, so don't notice those questions. I'm subscribed to the SIP question as I'm actually trying to make it work and know whom to poke for help. | 12:23 |
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| chem|st | tbr: I am not subscribed either just noticed it on the activity page | 12:24 |
| tbr | :) | 12:24 |
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| chem|st | but honestly, there are some things I expect jolla to have a hands-on... if sfos shall be successful in any way it needs to come with a powerful jolla-featured base | 12:27 |
| pp_ | tbr: UI still lacking I think | 12:29 |
| tbr | pp_: yes, but at least the original manual edit way works now | 12:29 |
| tbr | as for some time wpa_supplicant was "broken" | 12:29 |
| chem|st | and from the looks of it, I do not want some random coder destroy the UI implementation - bad enough that jolla listens to loud minorities | 12:29 |
| chem|st | pp_: ehrm no, the bug was fixed upstream and iirc before jolla released... | 12:31 |
| tbr | but currently I'm hacking on push notifications | 12:33 |
| chem|st | tbr: I am still recovering the previous state of my phone... | 12:35 |
| tbr | :-/ | 12:35 |
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| eyea_UK_ | Jolla )0!1@ joh | 13:01 |
| eyea_UK_ | how is everyone | 13:02 |
| eyea_UK_ | all good? | 13:02 |
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| eyea_UK_ | is Jolla 2 due next year? | 13:03 |
| eyea_UK_ | any road map | 13:04 |
| eyea_UK_ | or spec | 13:04 |
| tadzik | nothing specific iirc | 13:04 |
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| tadzik | I'd recommend just buying one instead of waiting for something to maybe-come :) | 13:06 |
| eyea_UK_ | i am.on my.jolla | 13:07 |
| tadzik | supporting Jolla is the only way to expect things to happen in the future | 13:07 |
| tadzik | oh, I can see that. I also keep pressing . instead of space :) | 13:07 |
| eyea_UK_ | right now | 13:07 |
| eyea_UK_ | yep | 13:07 |
| eyea_UK_ | )0!1@ is nice | 13:08 |
| eyea_UK_ | I moved over form N900 and N9 | 13:09 |
| tadzik | I don't know what )0!1@ is, frankly :) | 13:09 |
| eyea_UK_ | jolla )0!1@ | 13:09 |
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| Teme | mm wot mate | 13:10 |
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| Teme | if )0!1@ is some sort of leetspeek for Jolla then that is not very consistent since the L:s are not the same :D | 13:11 |
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| tadzik | oh, I see it now | 13:11 |
| eyea_UK_ | yah | 13:12 |
| eyea_UK_ | yes | 13:12 |
| eyea_UK_ | thats right | 13:12 |
| eyea_UK_ | it just a call sign | 13:12 |
| eyea_UK_ | when i enter channel | 13:12 |
| eyea_UK_ | sorry if it a bit silly | 13:13 |
| ahjolinna | gog.com linux launch promo: http://www.gog.com/promo/linux_launch_promo_240714 | 13:14 |
| meklu | it's got some good stuff there | 13:14 |
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| inte` | tbr: I just got confused by the internet call ringtone setting which is already there | 13:52 |
| inte` | I was wondering if the Jolla got a feature which I hadn't found yet. | 13:52 |
| tbr | inte`: it is all prepared, just some smaller bits are missing | 13:52 |
| inte` | yeah already learn about that | 13:53 |
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| * tbr should try again with the audio hack and test that everything still works on update 8 | 13:53 | |
| inte | zrtp would also be nice when voip is eventually integrateded | 13:57 |
| tbr | inte: that's on a whole different level. For that you need to go down the stack and get it into telepathy | 13:58 |
| tbr | jolla just uses telepathy framework and its protocol handlers | 13:58 |
| inte | ok lets start with sip in the first place :-) | 13:58 |
| inte | i can still use skype for secure stuff | 13:58 |
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| tbr | LOL\ | 13:58 |
| inte | just kidding :-) | 13:58 |
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| tbr | as said, sip should work, with the audio workaround where you need to hold the phone upside down | 13:59 |
| tbr | dialling out I'm not sure how that would work, probably for now from CLI | 13:59 |
| tadzik | . o O ( you're holding it wrong ) | 13:59 |
| inte | what is that about holding the phone?? | 14:00 |
| tbr | inte: with the pulse audio hack you get audio from the speaker and mic is the ambient mic on top of the phone | 14:01 |
| tbr | so to use it you just hold it upside down | 14:01 |
| inte | ok | 14:01 |
| tbr | there is _zero_ audio routing, so headsets etc won't work | 14:01 |
| tbr | that might come later once we get more working as a community | 14:02 |
| inte | whouldnt it make sense to use use the regular speaker and mic? | 14:02 |
| inte | i mean, it would | 14:02 |
| tbr | I know whom to poke for a favour | 14:02 |
| inte | but is that so much more difficult to implement? | 14:02 |
| tbr | inte: no sh*t sherlock. Read the TJC entry, audio policy prevents that. | 14:02 |
| inte | ah | 14:02 |
| inte | thanks | 14:02 |
| tbr | once we get more things working, see above | 14:02 |
| inte | so jolla would actually have to deal with that | 14:03 |
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| tbr | < tbr> I know whom to poke for a favour | 14:03 |
| inte | just curious, since i never used it | 14:03 |
| inte | would i have to hold the phone upside down with skype for android as well? | 14:03 |
| tbr | no idea, never tried it | 14:04 |
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| inte | ok thanks | 14:04 |
| tbr | but same person does that stuff, so if it was fixed for skype it can be for SIP | 14:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | w00t, are you here ? | 15:16 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | w00t, find it https://github.com/amtep/tojblockd | 15:31 |
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| * kimmoli day is saved " you're holding it wrong" ... :p | 16:04 | |
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| gexc | gah... my laptop still buzzes after a fan replacement | 16:14 |
| gexc | possible loose screws? | 16:15 |
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| javispedro | hi hello | 16:20 |
| javispedro | quick question: recommended prepaid sim card provider in .fi for 3-weeks only visit? | 16:20 |
| javispedro | (i'm sadly not the one coming) | 16:20 |
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| Oni^ | javispedro: go to nearest R-Kioski and buy one there are few choise | 16:28 |
| raa70 | there is probably tele.fi(sonera), dna and saunalahti(elisa) | 16:30 |
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| raa70 | basically they all cost the same | 16:33 |
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| javispedro | I used to suggest elisa, but can't find info about the plans online in english any more | 16:35 |
| javispedro | though I'll tell to just look around the kiosk | 16:35 |
| javispedro | ta! | 16:35 |
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| raa70 | I think most diffrences are in data cost and speed | 16:36 |
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| pdanek | Can 5" smartphone reasonably replace ebook reader? | 18:28 |
| pdanek | Or way too small? | 18:28 |
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| tbr | pdanek: I suspect it will depend on personal preference. Easy enough to try. Take a book that size and read it. Or print a few pages at that geometry | 18:38 |
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| * inte was using an ipad as ebook reader for a while | 19:44 | |
| inte | sucks | 19:44 |
| inte | hard to read in the sun, e.g. at the pool | 19:44 |
| inte | plus the battery gets empty pretty fast | 19:45 |
| inte | I prefer regular ebook readers for reading | 19:45 |
| inte | much more useable | 19:45 |
| inte | maybe the eink toh could provide a solution to this... | 19:45 |
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| phlixi | but also depends on usage scenario, for example for dayly 2*20minutes commuting, batery and direct sun is no isue, but carring another device sucks... In the end I guess you should simply try ;-) | 19:46 |
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| inte | well, i woulndt consider 20 minutes commuting as "reading" in terms of reading lord of the rings | 19:47 |
| inte | :-) | 19:47 |
| inte | for that the jolla is surely good, and the 5" just fine | 19:47 |
| inte | I just wouldnt read an entire book on the phone, like on vacation, at the pool | 19:48 |
| inte | that would suck | 19:48 |
| phlixi | in fact i think its still to big, i prefer n9/iphone size | 19:48 |
| phlixi | and i think what kind of vacation is that, i can read in my living room :D | 19:49 |
| inte | glady you could install SailfishOS on the N9 as well :-) | 19:50 |
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| phlixi | but, yes, also in the living room, i would probably prefer a seperate ebook reader. then i do not care to have adedicated device | 19:50 |
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| inte | phlixi: when youre traveling with your girlfriend in summer they mostly prefer beaches or pools | 19:51 |
| inte | boring like hell to me | 19:51 |
| inte | but most girls tend to like that | 19:51 |
| inte | so... reading is the only solution | 19:51 |
| pdanek1 | I hate beaches and pools. | 19:51 |
| * inte too | 19:51 | |
| inte | me too | 19:51 |
| inte | well beaches could be nice if there is a bar and they do good cocktails :-P | 19:52 |
| phlixi | beaches are nice, with or without bar... | 19:53 |
| phlixi | ...but not for 3 weeks^^ | 19:53 |
| tigeli | inte: get few kids.. it will not be boring anymore :D | 19:53 |
| inte | exactely | 19:53 |
| phlixi | i guess that has nothing to doo with the beach | 19:53 |
| inte | tigeli: oh I know, you always have to watch them at the beach | 19:53 |
| inte | one more reason not to do a beach vacation :) | 19:54 |
| inte | I actually prefer sailing to beaches | 19:54 |
| inte | if its related to water | 19:54 |
| tigeli | inte: yeah, I was at the beach with 3 and 6 year ones.. had to play "daddy is a shark" for few hours :D | 19:54 |
| phlixi | THATs boring :D | 19:54 |
| inte | however, also no easy task when it comes to small kids | 19:54 |
| inte | tigeli: hehe nice :) | 19:55 |
| inte | phlixi: no not if you do some bigger trips | 19:55 |
| inte | like overnight turns | 19:55 |
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| * inte even catched a yellow fin tuna once :) | 19:56 | |
| inte | tigeli: well you can do some beach tennis as well if the kids get a bit bigger | 19:56 |
| inte | should be fun | 19:56 |
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| pdanek1 | tigeli: "daddy is a shark" pff.... I'd play daddy is a sailfish! | 19:57 |
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| inte | good point | 19:57 |
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| tigeli | pdanek1: :D does sailfish eat people? ;) | 20:06 |
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| tigeli | pdanek1: http://i.imgur.com/KNQKi.jpg ;) | 20:06 |
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| pdanek1 | tigeli: http://blog.aardvarkmcleod.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/img_0639-cropped.jpg | 20:15 |
| pdanek1 | tigeli: pretty scary for 3-year old :P | 20:16 |
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| tabhoo | hey jollaers, is therr an app similar to flux for sailfishos/jolla? https://justgetflux.com | 22:33 |
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