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| spiiroin_ | phdeswer: timed and profiled are in user session -> I guess that is why they do not show up in that graph | 04:50 |
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| faiden | Does Jolla have support for NFC ? | 08:00 |
| Nicd- | yes, but it is only used for the OH | 08:01 |
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| faiden | what is the OH? | 08:01 |
| Nicd- | the other half | 08:01 |
| faiden | aha ok | 08:01 |
| faiden | I guess you could use it to do other things as well =D | 08:02 |
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| stephg | faiden not without difficulty | 08:03 |
| faiden | I bet ther will eb tools later on | 08:03 |
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| Morpog_Jolla_ | Stskeeps: maybe interesting? https://together.jolla.com/question/44563/intel-turnkey-program-for-smartphones-jolla-2-3/ | 08:08 |
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| Stskeeps | hang on | 08:10 |
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| faiden | Noo don't make another jolla so quickly I just got mine >< | 08:11 |
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| faiden | are there any proxy apps/programs for sailfish? | 09:16 |
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| faiden | or is there anyway to set a global proxy? | 09:20 |
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| tbr | faiden: mh, the web browser will have probably a separate logic, but for system level it might be possible to cover most other software by setting environment variables | 09:22 |
| tbr | not sure about Qt/QML and where to set proxy settings for that | 09:23 |
| faiden | hmm ok ty tbr | 09:23 |
| tbr | have you checked network settings yet? | 09:23 |
| faiden | yea found nothing there | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | dear lazyirc.. if you recall a situation within the last 1-3 months, can you reliably recall the name(s) of people involved in the situation, if you got told their names? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | during the situation/or before | 09:24 |
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| tbr | huh? | 09:24 |
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| tbr | which situation though? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | in any kind really.. let's say, you were at a resturant with people | 09:25 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm brewing on an idea and pondering how other people's minds work :) | 09:25 |
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| Stskeeps | for example i can recall a situation and recall who was in that situation fairly decently | 09:25 |
| tbr | yes | 09:25 |
| ggabriel | i'd say yes | 09:26 |
| ggabriel | but I admit that when nicknames are too similar, I get confused | 09:26 |
| tbr | most of the time this ends in me building an ugly pipe of greps ;) | 09:26 |
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| ggabriel | also depends on the level of participation | 09:26 |
| ggabriel | so, if you're having a discussion with 3 others, it's easy, while with 15 others it's a bit more challenging | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, one or two should be enough | 09:27 |
| ggabriel | you probably mean in order to go back in the logs | 09:27 |
| ggabriel | i often go lazy and do what tbr does tho | 09:28 |
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| ggabriel | whatever i remember first, i start grepping, that can be keywords, nicks, dates, all of the above | 09:28 |
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| tbr | obviously doesn't work for reallife™, unless you have google glass and make it transcribe everything, supercreepy | 09:28 |
| * Stskeeps patens | 09:28 | |
| Stskeeps | +t | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 09:29 |
| * ggabriel gets aircrack-ng on the jolla so kick out gglass people from wifi | 09:29 | |
| tbr | Stskeeps: prior art on IRC established, you can now only file in the US | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:29 |
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| gexc | faiden: try iptables | 09:36 |
| faiden | hmm ok I give it a try | 09:37 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | https://developer.here.com/native-apis | 10:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Sigh Sigh :'-( | 10:02 |
| pp | dr_gogeta86: you probably have to pay them a 5-6 digit sum to be listed there :-) | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | money don't buy you love | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | but solves problems ....still remember | 10:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, need to bring portable hotspot with me today ? | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | hum>? | 10:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | upgrade | 10:06 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | I've already asked to my company to enable lte on my sim | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i wouldn't know | 10:06 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm a useless researcher | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:06 |
| ggabriel | lol | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | june's just started | 10:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | useless | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | are we going to have a "where is the update?" conversation every day? | 10:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i don't think so | 10:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ggabriel, i've gently asked | 10:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I'm not lobbyist | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | dr_gogeta86: yeah, that's cool | 10:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'm still using debian | 10:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-D | 10:08 |
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| ggabriel | yeah, sorry about that | 10:08 |
| Nicd- | someone needs to register isthenextsailfishosupdateoutyet.com | 10:09 |
| javispedro | ouch, this update is heavy to download, anyone has been able to finish it? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | what update.. | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | javispedro: don't be mean | 10:09 |
| javispedro | aaaawww | 10:09 |
| javispedro | ;P | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: i managed it | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | but i have a fttc internet connection | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | and sooper dooper wireless | 10:10 |
| javispedro | I too have fiber to the craphouse :) | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: switch off bluetooth, maybe you left it on ;-) | 10:11 |
| * javispedro always has bluetooth on | 10:12 | |
| javispedro | today I can see $SOMEONES_FULLNAME's iMac from here | 10:12 |
| ggabriel | that's why the download is so slow then | 10:12 |
| ggabriel | anyway, let's stop trolling | 10:12 |
| javispedro | I ponder who thought at Apple a good default BT name would be $FULLNAME's iMac | 10:13 |
| ggabriel | I ponder who thought at Apple | 10:14 |
| javispedro | touché. | 10:14 |
| phdeswer | javispedro: what did you expect from a company that is in bed with the NSA? | 10:14 |
| kimmoli | Nicd-: +1 ... it is available isthenextsailfishosupdateoutyet.com | 10:15 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | meanwhile listen to TOOL- Aenima | 10:22 |
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| kimmoli | :) noticed just that in harbour app comments shows which version you have (had) when commenting, it shows my locally installed developing version, which is higher than harbour version... | 10:24 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | kimmoli, any advance in i2c ? | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've read about isn't multi tennant | 10:52 |
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| kimmoli | yes, that is an issue. | 11:02 |
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| kimmoli | i would not like to add layer which through the comms go there, as usually you have only one toh (meaning only one app/daemon running) connected at once. | 11:04 |
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| kimmoli | maybe simple dbus api; tohBusRequest > Granted; Denied; Daemons must be requested to release bus when e.g. application wants to use it - or something | 11:09 |
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| Stskeeps | anybody with a retail jolla that can give me a ssu lr? | 11:41 |
| Sail0r | done | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 11:44 |
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| gabriel9|work | is there some update? :) | 11:49 |
| netzvieh | soon™ | 11:54 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: you need more samples? | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | nah i'm good | 11:54 |
| Nicd- | sniff, I missed my chance to be useful | 11:55 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | ahahaha | 12:01 |
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| javispedro | update 1.0.7.22 codename "kärsimätön" | 12:05 |
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| Nicd- | dammit! | 12:05 |
| Nicd- | stop doing that! | 12:05 |
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| javispedro | :) | 12:07 |
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| faiden | The future is soon | 12:10 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: btw, project ara seems to be worth a look, especially in a forward facing future outlook. there seems to have been a conference with 18h of video produced. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, i should watch | 12:26 |
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| ggabriel | javispedro: cool that you got the update, can you run android, ios and winpho applications now? | 12:31 |
| javispedro | I can run iOS applications | 12:32 |
| javispedro | well, I can run one... barely... | 12:32 |
| javispedro | it involves ptrace =) | 12:33 |
| ggabriel | killer feature | 12:33 |
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| javispedro | i'm surprised about project ara | 12:35 |
| javispedro | it seems that they're doing anything they can to try and prove me wrong (I said it would be vaporware) | 12:35 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: got a link by chance? | 12:43 |
| tbr | I'll ask | 12:43 |
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| netzvieh | this one http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/ ? (it's roughly 18hrs of video) | 12:53 |
| tbr | 12:48:38< mdp> http://www.projectara.com | 12:54 |
| tbr | 12:48:47< mdp> click developers conference | 12:54 |
| tbr | yes | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | thank you | 12:54 |
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| faiden | are there any gpg encrypted mail apps available yet? | 13:15 |
| Bysmyyr | android... | 13:16 |
| faiden | ok but any native? | 13:16 |
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| Bysmyyr | one guy says here that you can use mutt (terminal program) https://together.jolla.com/question/887/gpg-for-email-and-other-stuff/ | 13:22 |
| faiden | ohh thats nice I use that normaly as well | 13:24 |
| Bysmyyr | then it is ideal solution | 13:24 |
| faiden | Just to bad that you can't get notifications from it :( | 13:24 |
| faiden | maby with some cronjob and some thing you setup yourselfe | 13:25 |
| faenil | faiden, creating fake notifications is fairly easy, fwiw | 13:25 |
| faiden | sweet | 13:25 |
| Bysmyyr | config it also normally. then normal mailprogram makes notifigations ;) | 13:25 |
| faiden | cool | 13:26 |
| faiden | Have to look deeper into this when I get home | 13:26 |
| faenil | faiden, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/tools/notificationtool/notificationtool.cpp#L55 | 13:27 |
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| faiden | well look at that! thats going into my bookmarks ty faenil | 13:29 |
| faenil | np | 13:29 |
| faenil | faenil, should be enough to "pkcon install lipstick-qt5-tools" | 13:29 |
| faenil | or maybe it's installed by defaults, don't remember | 13:30 |
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| faiden | are there any net-tools? Like ifconfig and traceroute etc? | 13:33 |
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| special | faiden: yes, mer-core | 13:34 |
| faenil | faiden, I guess so | 13:34 |
| faiden | ohh nice | 13:35 |
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| faiden | I feel like I should change the ssh port so I don't get bot spams | 13:38 |
| SK_work | faiden: on a phone ? | 13:38 |
| faiden | you never know | 13:38 |
| SK_work | true | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | can happen | 13:38 |
| ggabriel | i'd rather have the firewall on :P | 13:39 |
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| faiden | Wich firewall are you using ggabriel | 13:39 |
| ggabriel | phone's | 13:39 |
| faiden | what is it called? | 13:40 |
| ggabriel | iptables :) | 13:40 |
| Bysmyyr | it is easy to remove password login and use only rsakey? is there some trick different htan in normal linux? | 13:40 |
| faiden | lawl kek | 13:40 |
| ggabriel | Bysmyyr: yes | 13:40 |
| Bysmyyr | which question is yes? | 13:40 |
| ggabriel | enable dev mode, ssh in, add keys, disable ssh, you can still log in with your keys | 13:40 |
| faiden | going to get a proxy working with iptables | 13:40 |
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| Bysmyyr | ggabriel: but is devel-su workiing also after that? | 13:41 |
| ggabriel | Bysmyyr: nope, you need the password, so you install sudo | 13:41 |
| ggabriel | :D | 13:41 |
| Bysmyyr | ok | 13:41 |
| ggabriel | needless to say: it's your own responsibility, you can brick the phone and all htat | 13:42 |
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| Bysmyyr | ofcource ;P | 13:42 |
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| faiden | hmm ipconfig works but traceroute and dig etc is not installed :P | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | oh, yeah, many tools missing | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | openrepos may be useful | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | but with extreme care | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | or compile yourself | 13:44 |
| faiden | could do that ye | 13:47 |
| faenil | faiden, not installed or not in mer repos? | 13:47 |
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| faiden | Still not figured out what openrepos and mer repos are | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | i tried to find dig/host in mer-tools and didn't ifnd it | 13:48 |
| faenil | faiden, so, Sailfish = Mer (core) + Nemo (middleware) + SailfishUI | 13:48 |
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| faiden | ohh | 13:48 |
| faenil | faiden, so mer repos are the official repos where the core packages come from | 13:48 |
| faenil | so they're installed by default | 13:49 |
| faiden | thats why I had a hard time finding it | 13:49 |
| faenil | openrepos are 3rd party repos | 13:49 |
| faenil | faiden, "ssu lr" will show you the repos your phone is using, and you'll see there's mer-core as well | 13:50 |
| faiden | And i should be carefull with those | 13:50 |
| faenil | yes because they could be hosting packages which replace your system ones, and lead to havok | 13:50 |
| faiden | ouch | 13:50 |
| faenil | something was changed about that in Update4, but I don't remember details | 13:51 |
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| faiden | I guess all I need to do is learn ip tools | 13:51 |
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| faiden | http://linoxide.com/linux-command/use-ip-command-linux/ | 13:51 |
| faiden | it can do almoust everything | 13:52 |
| faenil | faiden, so if you type "pkcon install traceroute" it will look for it in default repos | 13:52 |
| faenil | (if you haven't installed any other repo) | 13:52 |
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| faiden | i use zypper actually | 13:52 |
| faenil | doesn't really matter | 13:52 |
| faiden | ye | 13:52 |
| faiden | I wish there was a site that had tweaks/guides ambience tools etc | 13:55 |
| faiden | its so spread out atm | 13:55 |
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| faiden | Ohh and turning off the RFC made my battery last much longer | 13:55 |
| faiden | I mean the NFC | 13:56 |
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| faenil | faiden, I think it's turned off most of the time anyway? | 13:59 |
| faenil | there's a physical trigger which handles that, iirc | 13:59 |
| faiden | ohh | 14:00 |
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| jmlich | Hi guys, I am looking at https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/categories/200115337 can tell the web designer to use more contrast colors or more visible font? The "submit request" button is almost invisible for me )-; | 14:05 |
| Teme | same for me | 14:06 |
| faenil | yeah, that's barely readable :/ | 14:06 |
| Teme | also: really that cursive font? | 14:06 |
| faenil | don't know who works on the website though... Stskeeps ? | 14:07 |
| faenil | I'm sure he knows :) | 14:07 |
| SK_work | faenil: stskeeps knows everything ? :D | 14:07 |
| faenil | indeed | 14:07 |
| faiden | Ty btw everyone that helps us naabs with the phone =D | 14:08 |
| faiden | hmm ssh-copy-id works and the .ssh/autorized_keys got my PCs key in it but still asks for password when logging in.. | 14:10 |
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| tobiski | faiden: do you have multiple id_rsa files on your client ssh directory? | 14:11 |
| tobiski | I had same problem and had to ssh-add that key to ssh-agent so it would remember it | 14:11 |
| tobiski | try to ssh -i path/to/your/private_key user@host and see if it still asks for password | 14:12 |
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| faiden | hmm got id_ecdsa.pub and id_ecdsa | 14:14 |
| faiden | but it works on all my other computers | 14:14 |
| tobiski | .pub is your public key which goes into that authorized keys and id_ecdsa is your private key | 14:15 |
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| tobiski | did you try ssh -i path/to/your/private_key user@host? | 14:15 |
| faiden | but I checked the authorized_keys and ig got the .pub one inside it | 14:15 |
| tobiski | yes that should be fine | 14:16 |
| faiden | still It ask for password the first time I log on QQ | 14:17 |
| faiden | btw what service do i need to restart to restarts ssh? | 14:17 |
| faiden | sshd with systemd is not running | 14:17 |
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| faiden | Guess I could just restart phone | 14:18 |
| faiden | hmm I shoudl try uncomment AuthorizedKeysFile.ssh/authorized_keys in sshd_config | 14:20 |
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| faiden | hmm I guess the ssh is not configured in /etc/ssh/ | 14:23 |
| faiden | then where do I config it? | 14:23 |
| gexc | isn't it in /etc/ssh ? | 14:24 |
| faiden | I did config a diffrent port but when restarting the phone it still using port 22 | 14:26 |
| gexc | O_O | 14:26 |
| faiden | sshd_config | 14:27 |
| faiden | then again systemctl status sshd.service is not running | 14:27 |
| faiden | but I still connect to the phone through ssh | 14:27 |
| faiden | so I'm like ehh | 14:27 |
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| javispedro | sshd.socket? | 14:39 |
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| faiden | https://together.jolla.com/question/24634/add-fail2ban-to-prevent-ssh-bruteforcing/ read this one and not sure if you can change the developer port | 14:40 |
| faiden | I guess you can turn of developer mode and start the sshd systemd service instead | 14:40 |
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| faiden | but developer mode brings terminal and such ;( | 14:41 |
| faiden | ahh yes and sshd.socket worked javispedro | 14:42 |
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| faiden | but still not sure how to change the port | 14:44 |
| faiden | https://together.jolla.com/question/4363/how-to-configure-sshd-to-listen-on-a-different-port/ there we go | 14:46 |
| * javispedro has rlogin via bluetooth =) | 14:47 | |
| Wnt | I found a website that crashes the sailfish-browser with a "Segmentation fault". How should I report this kind of potential security risk? | 14:48 |
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| Wnt | annoying thing about this is that as the browser always opens the last opened page when launching it, it now chrashes all the time | 14:49 |
| Scelt | Wnt: disable internet and open browser then? | 14:49 |
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| faenil | Wnt, veskuh works on the browser | 14:50 |
| phdeswer | Wnt: and it would be good to know the website. Helps to find the bug | 14:51 |
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| veskuh | Wnt, settings has clear private data which also forgets the history | 14:51 |
| veskuh | Wnt, other option would be to close the browser and open some url for example from email or twitter or fb | 14:51 |
| Wnt | luckily the chashing code of that website is not run right away when opening the url so it's possible to click on the close tab button before it crashes | 14:52 |
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| veskuh | Wnt, URL ? | 14:52 |
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| veskuh | Yep, I can replicate the crash. Will file the issue and we will investigate. | 14:53 |
| Wnt | veskuh: great | 14:54 |
| veskuh | Wnt, thanks for reporting. | 14:54 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.7.7 bugfix update. DL: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu LOG: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.7.7 | 15:12 |
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| Nicd- | updating :) thanks coderus! | 15:16 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | has someone got issues with Sonera coverage on jolla? | 16:48 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | 3g | 16:48 |
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| tbr | not more than on other devices too | 16:49 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | hm, had to reboot that before data connected at all | 16:49 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | airplane mode toggling didnt help | 16:50 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | meh, not my phone | 16:51 |
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| chem|st | so the gsm modem is gone again... this is the first time with this version - are you guys sure this is a software issue? | 16:55 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | wow coderus mitäkuuluu is smoother than ever! good job! | 17:47 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC___: what you mean dear | 17:50 |
| coderus | ? | 17:50 |
| Morpog_PC___ | chat delegates | 17:50 |
| Morpog_PC___ | scrolling view there | 17:50 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | was laggy before, now smooth | 17:51 |
| coderus | emm, no. i didnt changed anything in last releases | 17:51 |
| coderus | placebo | 17:51 |
| Morpog_PC___ | maybe that new fancy scroller influences it? | 17:52 |
| coderus | no new fancy scroller, it was in 0.7.5 and never can see it :D | 17:52 |
| coderus | and nobody can see it* | 17:52 |
| Morpog_PC___ | :D | 17:52 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC___: just you have more free ram now than before | 17:53 |
| special | how can there be so many devices on this couch and none of them are the one I'm looking for | 17:53 |
| coderus | this the only reason i see | 17:53 |
| Morpog_PC___ | hmm could be | 17:53 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC___: delegates creatin in equal linear with free amount of ram | 17:53 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | sounds like the reason then | 17:54 |
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| netzvieh | special: you have a jedi on your couch? | 17:55 |
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| pdanek | http://chod.sk/a28a7 such a beauty! | 18:11 |
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