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| Anz_ | since recently, i'm feeling the OS sluggish and apps hanging (especially YT player crashes). any tips? | 10:11 |
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| Sirenfal | Hi | 10:27 |
| Sirenfal | I can't seem to find a clear answer on this- Do Jolla phones work on US carriers right now? | 10:27 |
| Kiranos | no nothing announced so its a ll guesswork | 10:28 |
| Kiranos | so the answer is no :) | 10:28 |
| Sirenfal | Shame | 10:28 |
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| Kiranos | from what I remember reading its not trivial to enter the US mobile market | 10:29 |
| Sirenfal | I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case | 10:29 |
| tbr | Sirenfal: GSM works. WCDMA/LTE doesn't is what I hear | 10:29 |
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| tbr | Sirenfal: if you are US based then a Nexus4 or Nexus5 might be the safer bet. Downside, currently no android app support. | 10:29 |
| Sirenfal | I'm a sysadmin, so I'm basically shopping for something Linuxy and with a hardware keyboard | 10:30 |
| Sirenfal | i.e. the holy grail that doesn't exist | 10:30 |
| Sirenfal | I'd build my own other half for Jolla if it'd work.. but I guess that's not really a great bet at this point | 10:30 |
| Kiranos | Sirenfal: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91535&page=78 | 10:30 |
| Kiranos | that is an homebrew keyboard | 10:31 |
| Sirenfal | I've seen that | 10:31 |
| Sirenfal | I didn't mean the other half though, I meant if it'd work on US networks | 10:31 |
| Kiranos | oh | 10:31 |
| bef0rd | I think only gsm,no 3g | 10:33 |
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| Sirenfal | Kiranos: Has Jolla ever even commented regarding US sales? | 10:38 |
| Sirenfal | like, is it even on their radar or are they not really interested right now | 10:38 |
| Kiranos | no nothing official I dont think | 10:39 |
| Sirenfal | also, that homebrew keyboard- | 10:39 |
| Sirenfal | perhaps you can save me from reading 78 pages | 10:40 |
| Kiranos | but there has been talk in the channel about how hard it is to go into the us market, Im betting patents and very wierd frequensies | 10:40 |
| Sirenfal | it looks like his frame is 3D printed | 10:40 |
| stephg | Sirenfal biggest stumbler for you is going to be network coverage | 10:40 |
| Sirenfal | did he opensource the template for that? | 10:40 |
| stephg | and frequencies | 10:40 |
| stephg | Sirenfal the author of that is kimmoli, here | 10:40 |
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| RzR | hi | 10:41 |
| RzR | I plan to buy this item | 10:41 |
| RzR | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281232735161# PULL TAB PU LEATHER POUCH CASE *only* fits Acer Liquid E2,Acer Liquid E2 Duo. | 10:41 |
| RzR | seems to fit j1 | 10:42 |
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| mord | paitsi tämä, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q7uCmgczKw | 11:07 |
| mord | ohcrap | 11:08 |
| mord | nevermind, accidental paste / wrong chan | 11:08 |
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| TemeV | Sirenfal: I think everything on that hwkb is opensourced | 11:16 |
| TemeV | At least that was the plan, and that is what thr donaters paid for :) | 11:17 |
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| Sirenfal | TemeV: yeah, I found it after I asked that | 12:01 |
| Sirenfal | it's on his dropbox here: | 12:01 |
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| Sirenfal | uh | 12:01 |
| Sirenfal | sec | 12:01 |
| Sirenfal | here | 12:01 |
| Sirenfal | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fxocsudk5gd8chs/AACj74LW-IQq1lkiF2SmApJ1a/QWERTY%20OH | 12:01 |
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| kimmoli | hello. dirkvl is autohr of qwerty toh. | 13:28 |
| ln- | autohr | 13:29 |
| kimmoli | i dnot feel repsonsive to cprret evry topy i mak | 13:30 |
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| Anz_ | regarding installation from open repos.. installing a new rpm (of the latest version ) will it over write the existing app. or whats the recommended method. | 13:32 |
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| Quu | for some reason, i cant access email settings | 13:53 |
| Quu | also, autofetch doesnt work | 13:53 |
| Anz_ | Quu: you mean.. settings > apps > email? | 13:55 |
| Quu | yup | 13:56 |
| Quu | settings crash | 13:56 |
| Quu | es | 13:56 |
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| Sidde | is there any package for host or nslookup in any repo for sailfish? | 17:57 |
| Sidde | dnsutils for example would be a good package | 17:58 |
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| Nicd- | I guess I have to do the paper battery trick. 3 shutdowns since the last one | 18:47 |
| Nicd- | also, having a lot of problems with my new SIM card, even though it fits the holder just fine | 18:48 |
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| stephg | Sidde: there's stuff from NeilsDK on openrepos irrc | 18:57 |
| Nicd- | anyone have any tips for making the SIM keep contact better? | 18:57 |
| stephg | Nicd-: you did the 10 minute off thing? | 18:58 |
| Nicd- | stephg: I have done that a countless amount of times when I last had the shutdown problem | 18:59 |
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| Sidde | stephg: thanks, he had atleast compiled dig | 19:11 |
| Nicd- | Sidde: becareful with NielDK's repositories | 19:11 |
| Nicd- | some jollas were borked because of conflicting packages | 19:12 |
| Sidde | Nicd-: i know. i will check every dependency | 19:12 |
| Sidde | if it contains stuff i don't feel safe with i just compile dnsutils for myself | 19:12 |
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| Sidde | but it would be good with an official repo for random userspace stuff | 19:15 |
| Nicd- | I think chum/obs is supposed to be that | 19:15 |
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| flux | nice, my device started to do the rebooting thing as well, apparently | 19:36 |
| flux | maybe five times today. | 19:36 |
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| flux | so perhaps it's time to try the good ol' folded paper behind the battery -trick | 19:46 |
| bjorn | What does paper behind the battery do? | 19:50 |
| Acce | pushes the battery more firmly to the contacts | 19:56 |
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| FireFly | Which, surprisingly, has helped for me | 20:16 |
| FireFly | I didn't expect it to, but eh, I'm not complaining | 20:16 |
| walokra | jolla's "folded paper trick" helped my father's trusty N95. pressing the SIM better against contacts :) | 20:25 |
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| TemeV | stuffing in some paper is often a good trick | 20:27 |
| Acce | so long, duct tape, paper is here.. | 20:28 |
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| TemeV | duct tape is of course the right solution, but it is not always available :) | 20:30 |
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| bjorn | Acce: Interesting. I'll try pushing some paper on top of my SIM since it's also disconnecting sometimes. | 23:06 |
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| bjorn | Acce: Hmm, whenever I try to fiddle a piece of paper on top of my SIM to push it down on the contacts, the Jolla will not see the SIM at all anymore. Restart isn't helping. Only after I take the paper out again and restart does it see the SIM again. | 23:35 |
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| Aard | bjorn: can you push the sim in far enough with a bit of paper? on the sim holder there are 4 circles. left of them there's a square, and and that square you see a triangel. that's the sensor to detect if there's a sim inside. it still needs to be moved if you pad things with paper | 23:42 |
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| bjorn | Aard: Interesting. I have a hunch this triangle thing is the only reason my SIM card is acting up all the time. | 23:48 |
| bjorn | Aard: Even if I push my SIM all the way to the top, it just barely makes the triangle move. | 23:48 |
| Aard | is it a self cut sim? | 23:49 |
| bjorn | Well it was cut for me at the phone shop. | 23:49 |
| bjorn | Maybe I should try to glue something on the corner. | 23:50 |
| Aard | it does not move by much, maybe about a mm | 23:50 |
| Aard | on a proper microsim it should be exactly under the corner | 23:50 |
| bjorn | I think it only moves half the "proper" distance for me. | 23:51 |
| Aard | bjorn: there should still be a (quite) small gap between the left side of the triangle and the left side of the rectangle when it moves properly. it's known that this causes issues with improperly cut sim cards, though | 23:55 |
| bjorn | Aard: Alright. Well, next time this is annoying me I will consider the options to push the triangle a little further. | 23:56 |
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