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| CodePulsar | Hello, Is Google Play installable on Jolla ? | 07:51 |
| Waitee | yes | 07:51 |
| Waitee | http://bit.ly/1k8dvr1 | 07:52 |
| CodePulsar | And you can buy in app purchases ? | 07:52 |
| CodePulsar | *in app items | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | I wouldn't count on it | 07:53 |
| Nicd- | at least there are problems with paid apps | 07:53 |
| CodePulsar | The app is free, but has an in app store | 07:53 |
| Waitee | google play installs android apps and provides functionality on apps like google maps | 07:53 |
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| Waitee | it just installs the android app you want to install | 07:54 |
| Waitee | you have to try the app yourself to be sure | 07:55 |
| CodePulsar | The app uses Google billing API which means the transaction has to go through Google Play | 07:56 |
| Kiranos | but where do you verify your google profile | 07:57 |
| Kiranos | if thats not done I guess no payed apps will get authenticated? | 07:57 |
| Waitee | i believe installing google play would at least give you better chance :D | 07:57 |
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| Kiranos | Waitee: yea read 19 from https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/ | 07:58 |
| Kiranos | seems you log in as the last point | 07:58 |
| Waitee | CodePulsar: i suggest you try it | 08:01 |
| Waitee | it should work imo | 08:01 |
| CodePulsar | Waitee: I don't have a Jolla phone, we have a customer which says he tried our Android app on his Jolla phone and he couldn't pay, and I was trying to determine if it is possible to purchase in app items when you have Google Play and our app installed on a Jolla phone | 08:04 |
| SK_work | CodePulsar: ah | 08:04 |
| SK_work | well, honestly, if you want to deploy to Jolla, you shouldn't use Google APIs at all | 08:05 |
| CodePulsar | We don't deploy to Jolla | 08:05 |
| SK_work | so, in app purchase wouldn't be recommended | 08:05 |
| SK_work | ah, just want to try for a customer ? | 08:05 |
| CodePulsar | Customers want to use our app on Jolla phones | 08:05 |
| SK_work | :/ | 08:05 |
| Waitee | oh | 08:06 |
| SK_work | then (IMO) the customer need to figure it out how to make it work, because it is nor your job to make it compatible (you don't want to deploy to jolla), nor Jolla's role (they don't support GPlay) | 08:06 |
| Waitee | i wonder if i could try it without buying anything | 08:06 |
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| SK_work | Waitee: at least try to open the in app purchase window ? | 08:06 |
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| Waitee | CodePulsar: what was the name of the app? | 08:06 |
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| CodePulsar | Maybe we should a deployment to Sailfish, but first we have to see what is the migration process of an Android app to it | 08:07 |
| CodePulsar | *should consider | 08:07 |
| SK_work | CodePulsar: strip GPlay APIs should be enough | 08:08 |
| SK_work | ie use "pure Android" APIs | 08:08 |
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| CodePulsar | Waitee: This one ~ http://goo.gl/a3qMa | 08:09 |
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| Kiranos | CodePulsar: and the official android app store is off the tamble? | 08:10 |
| Kiranos | table | 08:10 |
| Waitee | the app itself works for me | 08:10 |
| Kiranos | http://store.yandex.com/ | 08:10 |
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| Waitee | CodePulsar: it seems buying stuff works | 08:13 |
| CodePulsar | Waitee: if you select an item from the Menu -> Store -> (Navigation | Speed cameras | Traffic information) -> Tap price -> Buy -> Do you get an error here? | 08:14 |
| Waitee | nope | 08:14 |
| Waitee | didnt try all the way to actually buy it | 08:14 |
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| Nicd- | then don't say it works :P | 08:15 |
| CodePulsar | Waitee: at the last step do you see a dialog from Google Play with the item details and price? | 08:15 |
| CodePulsar | right before you actually confirm the buy | 08:15 |
| Waitee | yeah there's the price, on the lover right is google play logo and reads google play | 08:16 |
| Waitee | and there's the final buy button | 08:16 |
| Waitee | and no errors | 08:16 |
| Waitee | works that far | 08:16 |
| Waitee | at least | 08:16 |
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| Waitee | it's got my card number apparently as well | 08:17 |
| flux | so, bicycling season has started. what's the tracker of choice for Jolla? | 08:19 |
| Jope | suunto ambit :-D | 08:20 |
| Jope | ha ha ha. | 08:20 |
| Waitee | it's nice weather outdoors | 08:20 |
| Waitee | close the curtains and stay inside | 08:20 |
| flux | so I guess it's the android trackers then | 08:24 |
| flux | apparently sports tracker works, except for map to work you need to install google maps and the belt doesn't work | 08:25 |
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| Waitee | there's rena in warehouse | 08:26 |
| CodePulsar | Waitee: Thanks for taking the time to take a look at it | 08:28 |
| Waitee | no problem | 08:28 |
| CodePulsar | Kiranos: What do you mean by the official app store is off the table? We ship our app in the Google Play Store | 08:28 |
| Waitee | the official android app store for jolla is Yandex | 08:33 |
| Waitee | there is also aptoide available on the jolla store | 08:33 |
| Kiranos | CodePulsar: yes as Waitee stated, jolla has an official app from jolla that installs the Yandex android store | 08:34 |
| Kiranos | so if you can push your app to that store aswell as google play you will reach alot more jolla users | 08:35 |
| Kiranos | which doesnt want to hack in google play store | 08:35 |
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| Nicd- | well, you can push straight to jolla's app store too. isn't this a clear situation? :) anyway, google apis must be removed to deploy to those stores | 08:36 |
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| CodePulsar | Alright, thanks for the advice. | 09:53 |
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| entil | coderus: may I ask if you're publishing mitakuuluu2 on the same openrepos page or is it somewhere else or was the new version not released yet? | 10:33 |
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| coderus | entil: it's in pre-release testing on github: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases | 10:42 |
| entil | coderus: ooh! I might maybe give that a shot then | 10:50 |
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| entil | coderus: but still, when you release, would it go to the openrepos page? | 10:51 |
| gabriel9|work | fixed restarts with some paper under battery | 10:52 |
| entil | I had my first jolla crash today :( | 10:52 |
| rangoy | Does anyone know a way to install Strava on my precious jolla? | 10:53 |
| entil | been using the phone since crazy since December so that's actually a good thing :D | 10:53 |
| gabriel9|work | just add some paper under battery for better contact | 10:53 |
| gabriel9|work | same her, it was ok for months | 10:53 |
| gabriel9|work | and then just started | 10:53 |
| coderus | entil: sure | 10:53 |
| gabriel9|work | :/ | 10:53 |
| entil | coderus: sweet, let's see if it gets released before I get around to testing the pre-release ;) thanks! | 10:54 |
| entil | gabriel9|work: I think this was an android moment, was playing the android version of 2048, got a screen glitch and had to give it the power button | 10:54 |
| gabriel9|work | that's great | 10:56 |
| gabriel9|work | then no paper for you :) | 10:56 |
| entil | I'll keep that in mind if I ever need it ;) | 10:56 |
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| Nicd- | so I bought the black OH and it's lovely | 12:38 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: congratulations | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | but "this the other half is already in use" :/ | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | you bought it second hand? | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | can't get it to install the ambience | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | no | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | must be an error | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | from dna store | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | maybe some idiot thought it'd be a lot of fun to try it and bound it to some random persons's jolla account | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | wouldn't be the first time | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | i remember my ex buying a phone with random pictures in it.... | 12:40 |
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| Stskeeps | Nicd-: send a mail to care, that shouldn't happen | 12:51 |
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| ggabriel | isn't it easier if Nicd- goes back to the dna store and gets it swapped? :) | 12:52 |
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| javispedro | that's kind of DRM btw. | 13:04 |
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| Stskeeps | o/ javispedro | 13:04 |
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| javispedro | helo | 13:05 |
| w00t | ehlo | 13:05 |
| joonahoi | 501 Syntax: EHLO hostname | 13:05 |
| javispedro | 421 Please come back in 999999 seconds. | 13:06 |
| w00t | hehe | 13:06 |
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| javispedro | I really need a matching cyan ToH for when my Jolla comes back :) | 13:07 |
| w00t | javispedro: screen repair? or what | 13:08 |
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| javispedro | w00t: long story. | 13:09 |
| w00t | javispedro: i was thinking you already got it back. plus a spider :) | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | missing pin fix? | 13:09 |
| javispedro | w00t, plus this: https://twitter.com/javispedro/status/455055633482407937 | 13:10 |
| w00t | javispedro: oof | 13:10 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: yep | 13:10 |
| louisdk | It it possible to search in the messages and/or email app for messenages containing specific text? | 13:11 |
| javispedro | trivial fix even for me, but I don't want to open it | 13:11 |
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| louisdk | *Is it | 13:11 |
| javispedro | (because of loss-of-warranty-reasons, I meant) | 13:14 |
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| javispedro | louisdk: I suspect not: https://together.jolla.com/question/298/quick-search-in-mail-app/ | 13:14 |
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| ggabriel | louisdk: no, and I can swear there was something in tjc asking for imap search too | 13:21 |
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| louisdk | ggabriel: How do you mean by tjc? | 13:22 |
| coderus | louisdk: together.jolla.com | 13:25 |
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| javispedro | btw any reason there seems to be no UI for bluetooth tethering in Sailfish? | 13:38 |
| javispedro | just lack of interest/manpower or is there some hidden problem I should be aware of? | 13:38 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: worse, bluetooth certification | 13:41 |
| javispedro | ah, I see. | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | /usr/lib/connman/test/tethering-enable bluetooth | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | works | 13:41 |
| javispedro | I know, I am reading the code | 13:41 |
| javispedro | :) | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | using it with my galaxy gear | 13:42 |
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| ggabriel | louisdk: is this you? https://together.jolla.com/question/40651/feature-request-quick-search-in-messages-app/ | 13:43 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: btw, did you find sth about the BT low energy scanning issue? | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | no, i forgot about it again | 13:43 |
| louisdk | ggabriel: yes, it is. | 13:46 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: we had generally really odd bluetooth+wifi connection issues | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: I think it's a dupe (I responded), but correct me if i'm wrong | 13:46 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: from my short experiences coexistance was better than on N9 | 13:47 |
| javispedro | but that may also be because of larger pulseaudio buffers or some other placebo.. | 13:47 |
| javispedro | the fact that Wi-Fi is just _cut short_ while reporting no change in RSSI screams "firmware bug" to me | 13:48 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: will do | 13:48 |
| louisdk | ggabriel: Thank you. Is sometimes get complicated to search for every possible word combination when creating a ticket, | 13:48 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: np, and I know, raised a few dupes myself ;-) | 13:49 |
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| louisdk | ggabriel: I hard to do something without making mistakes at times ;) | 13:53 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: wise people make mistakes/take their time, else others will think that one is perfect and quick at doing almost anything ;-) | 13:55 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: the bt issues that you are talking about, are they fairly reproducible e.g., by being connected to the wlan and using a bt headset? | 13:56 |
| ggabriel | i guess i'll give it a go some time and contribute here https://together.jolla.com/question/14919/connecting-a-bluetooth-headset-while-connected-to-wlan-disconnects-both-wlan-and-bluetooth/ | 13:57 |
| javispedro | ggabriel, the one I am talking about is 100% reproducible: scan for bluetooth low energy devices and Wi-Fi goes off. | 13:57 |
| javispedro | ggabriel: thought I am also interested in your experiences | 13:57 |
| javispedro | ggabriel: cause I never had such problems with my device | 13:57 |
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| javispedro | I'll check once I get my device back to see if it's really gotten that bad since recent sw releases | 13:59 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: i think my headset is LE, i'll give it a try and comment in that question | 13:59 |
| ggabriel | unless you have another one | 13:59 |
| javispedro | hum.. | 13:59 |
| javispedro | there are no LE headsets that I know of. | 13:59 |
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| javispedro | ggabriel, what's your headset? | 14:01 |
| javispedro | there are some LE bluetooth/mouses now, but no headsets that I'm aware of. | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: maybe it isn't :) | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | http://www.plantronics.com/uk/product/voyager-pro-uc#specs | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | and my bt mouse is pre-bt 4.0, so rather old | 14:03 |
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| louisdk | Is the folder where Downloads har stored called Transfer or Downloads in English? | 14:06 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.5-8 with notifications sound settings and some fixies: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.5-8 | 14:06 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: Downloads I think... my jolla is in english tho | 14:07 |
| javispedro | ggabriel, seems like it isn't | 14:07 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: is it still prerelease? | 14:08 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: yup | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | ok, then I'll wait :) | 14:09 |
| coderus | i need to fix old database import before release. Its my stopping issue | 14:09 |
| louisdk | javispedro: So under Settings it's called Transfer? | 14:12 |
| javispedro | louisdk, the what? | 14:12 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: you probably meant me, and if I understand "folder" as directory, then it's ~/Downloads - if by "folder" you mean the option in the Settings list, it's called Transfers | 14:13 |
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| louisdk | ggabriel: yes and thank you. | 14:14 |
| ggabriel | louisdk: System->Transfers to be precise | 14:15 |
| louisdk | ggabriel: Thanks. I'm about to create a handful of tickets on tjc that's on my todo list. | 14:16 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: hahah, i just fixed it :D | 14:34 |
| Aard | fyi, https://together.jolla.com/question/40658/hotfix-mms-changes-for-paarlampi-10519/ | 14:35 |
| coderus | so probably will release it today :D | 14:35 |
| coderus | Aard: only mms bugfix? and can we skip this update if i never used MMS in my life? | 14:36 |
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| Pnuu | "up to date" | 14:37 |
| Aard | coderus: yes | 14:38 |
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| coderus | Aard: good, but probably it will notice update every time and update notification will be permanent as usual? :D | 14:44 |
| Aard | coderus: yep. :p | 14:44 |
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| Aard | it's just two packages, so just consider pulling them in when you want to restart anyway ;) | 14:45 |
| louisdk | As far as I now it not possible to organize either the bookmarks in the sailfish browser or rearrange the favorites under Settings. | 14:46 |
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| coderus | i just found favorites in settings week ago :D | 14:51 |
| chem|st | louisdk: even if not able to rearange, the favourites need to be on the bottom not the top... | 14:52 |
| Aard | coderus: what? it's one of the platforms killer features! | 14:52 |
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| chem|st | it is so darn annoying, you open a link from a portrait only app and the browser starts in landscape (flat on table) | 14:54 |
| chem|st | Aard: does it reboot? | 14:55 |
| Aard | chem|st: it goes through the regular update process, so, yes | 14:55 |
| chem|st | grml | 14:55 |
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| chem|st | I'd love to have an easy pkcon refresh && pkcon update.... | 14:56 |
| Aard | it's on our todo list to do that kind of stuff without rebooting, but it requires some major work on the whole stack so the updater knows which packages can be installed without forcing a reboot | 14:56 |
| Aard | chem|st: version --dup. you're responsible to restart updated processes by yourself if you don't reboot, though | 14:57 |
| Aard | (for this hotfix it should be safe) | 14:57 |
| chem|st | Aard: yeah read that some day, I know you guys try your best but some things are just frustrating over time (not this case in peticular) | 14:58 |
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| Nicd- | yaaay updates | 15:00 |
| cb400f | chem|st: can't you set autorefresh on your repos (with zypper) and save one step? | 15:01 |
| Acce | uhh.. | 15:02 |
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| Aard | chem|st: another problem we have is that everybody uses the device in a different way. so for some people something I've never seen once is a major showstopper. and it's not always trivial to figure out which one is just an issue for one person, and which one really is a serious problem we need to attack fast (together helps a lot there, though) | 15:02 |
| cb400f | didn't try if the zypper on sailfish has limitations | 15:02 |
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| Acce | my phone tells me it's starting charging | 15:02 |
| Acce | without usb cable anywhere nearby | 15:02 |
| Acce | aand then lipstick crashes | 15:02 |
| Acce | actually reboot | 15:03 |
| Aard | cb400f: it'll get overwritten in the repo, and you don't really will save time, as when the update comes the repo just got updated -> you need to refresh anyway | 15:03 |
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| chem|st | Aard: it installs the wpa_supplicant with the cert bug again | 15:04 |
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| Aard | chem|st: if you replaced that, that's expected behaviour. which reminds me, I only remember you trying to figure out was wrong, but I didn't see a conclusion | 15:05 |
| chem|st | Aard: the wpa_supplicant has a bug which already made it to upstream afaik, it stops when it sees "client cert" from the server but does not check if it is actually a "server cert" too | 15:07 |
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| chem|st | its fix made it to upstream | 15:07 |
| chem|st | I linked the reports on tjc | 15:07 |
| Aard | I just searched there, https://together.jolla.com/question/39281/bug-wpa2-enterprise-wpa_supplicant-fails-when-server-cert-is-also-client-cert-radius-radsec-eduroam/ | 15:07 |
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| * Aard made a note to check with the maintainer of that tomorrow | 15:09 | |
| chem|st | ;) | 15:10 |
| chem|st | we were on a patched version, and the upgrade installs the release version again - so some people will cry out again | 15:11 |
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| Aard | chem|st: added a note to the together notes | 15:17 |
| chem|st | I answered all related threads | 15:18 |
| chem|st | gtg, and many thanks! | 15:19 |
| RaYmAn | w 49 | 15:20 |
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| netzvieh | mhh so where does this alien_bridge_se[877]: WifiModel::updateServiceList spam in the journal come from? | 15:21 |
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| netzvieh | and shouldn't be the sshd[#####] the same for the three entries for one session? connect, opened session, closed session? I have a closed session i can't remember opening, and there is no broken pipe/disconnect on any of my laptops. and journal since yesterday has nothing on that session | 15:28 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.6-1 release on openrepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 15:58 |
| Waitee | oh | 16:01 |
| Waitee | there's 1.0.5.19 on sailfish | 16:01 |
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| Pnuu | https://together.jolla.com/question/40658/hotfix-mms-changes-for-paarlampi-10519/ | 16:01 |
| Pnuu | MMS hotfix | 16:01 |
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| * artemma wonders what's Jolla business-marketing model (if any). Seeking direct contact with operators seems to be most probable to me, and otherhalf seems to suite easy-operator customization perfectly | 16:03 | |
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| artemma | but what is the app story for operators then? "Don't worry, Jolla will run Android apps fine"? | 16:04 |
| suosaask1 | probably right now the selling story is "be different" or "be part of something new" | 16:04 |
| artemma | My point of interest is in how much monetary interest is there in developing for Sailfish OS (both as product development and as potential subcontracting to other companies) | 16:05 |
| sjtoik | whee! a feedly client | 16:05 |
| suosaask1 | feedly is nice. What's the client? I might suggest it to a few friends that have Jolla. | 16:06 |
| sjtoik | suosaask1: feed haven | 16:06 |
| artemma | I think there are even two feedly clients now: feed.me and feed haven | 16:06 |
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| sjtoik | i should try that one too. | 16:08 |
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| ggabriel | anybody knows how to use ag-tool correctly to update fullName? | 16:20 |
| ggabriel | i tried ag-tool update-account <account id> string:fullName="my new name" and it created another property called fullName | 16:21 |
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| TMavica | anyone using mitakuuluu and cant select sound? It keep in no sound | 16:28 |
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| louisdk | It it possible to modify order of favorites in Settings by the command line? | 16:59 |
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| Sail0r | hotfix time | 17:01 |
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| tigeli | jep | 17:03 |
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| louisdk | On some options/text if you long press a menu appliers. What is it called? | 17:06 |
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| TMavica | only mms fix? | 17:08 |
| Waitee | yep | 17:09 |
| TMavica | not upgrading then.. | 17:09 |
| Waitee | well, doesnt break anything | 17:09 |
| TMavica | ok | 17:10 |
| TMavica | how large it is | 17:10 |
| Waitee | took under 5 minutes for me | 17:11 |
| Waitee | https://together.jolla.com/question/40658/hotfix-mms-changes-for-paarlampi-10519/ | 17:11 |
| tigeli | TMavica: few megabytes | 17:11 |
| Waitee | download size is about 2MB said someone | 17:11 |
| tigeli | TMavica: only 3 packages were updates | 17:11 |
| tigeli | updated | 17:11 |
| TMavica | ok | 17:11 |
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| TMavica | liqstick pandora disabled | 17:21 |
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| chem|st | there it is, I only read about issues with ringtones but I just got hit - SMS sound was a beep+vibrate instead of the tone in the ambience | 17:32 |
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| chem|st | device was screen-off flat on the desk | 17:33 |
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| coderus | 1.0.5.19 updated a lot of packages for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7323868/ | 17:35 |
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| Pnuu | did you update from 1.0.5.16 or from an earlier release? | 17:36 |
| coderus | from 5.16 ofc. | 17:37 |
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| coderus | used version --dup | 17:37 |
| Pnuu | ah | 17:37 |
| Aard | chem|st: interesting. that is, the real interesting bit is that it updated packages while not really updating packages -- if you look at version/release you see that it just installed exactly the same version again | 17:39 |
| coderus | Aard: WELL | 17:40 |
| coderus | well | 17:40 |
| coderus | i'm not sure which versions was installed before | 17:41 |
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| Aard | ah, I'm not that good at russion, I just assumed that one of the outputs is the old one :) | 17:41 |
| coderus | it just Downloaded: Installed: output | 17:42 |
| Aard | ok | 17:42 |
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| Aard | I know those packages did definitely not change in 1.0.5.19 | 17:43 |
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| netzvieh | for me it reinstalled the tutorial -.- and updated signon-plugin-oauth2-qt5 ... interesting | 17:49 |
| netzvieh | 0.18-1.2.1 to 0.18-10.1.1 | 17:49 |
| Aard | netzvieh: the tutorial is to be expected, that'll come with each update for now :p | 17:50 |
| netzvieh | Aard: I want to disable that :( | 17:50 |
| netzvieh | at least make it uninstallable from gui please | 17:50 |
| Aard | netzvieh: I'm not yet sure if that's a good idea -- that might cause a lot of responses from additional users complaining that tutorial came back next update | 17:51 |
| coderus | its the main part of os, you cant remove it so easily :D | 17:52 |
| netzvieh | coderus: why not? rpm -e jolla-startupwizard-tutorial and done? | 17:53 |
| Aard | I personally don't like that thing on my phone as well, but it was decided to hvae it installed per default, and that's where the update process comes in -- it uses the same configurations as the image generation itself, so pulls in stuff which are pre-installed but removed again | 17:53 |
| Aard | changing that is not entirely trivial, and we're a bit busy with more urgent stuff | 17:54 |
| netzvieh | Aard: okay, if it's decided you can't do much there. but not overwriting config files would be a good start ;) | 17:54 |
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| Aard | netzvieh: which conf files? | 17:55 |
| coderus | netzvieh: just joking :D | 17:55 |
| netzvieh | journald.conf for example :) | 17:55 |
| Aard | netzvieh: well, what I'll do at some point is try to figure out a way to enable removing packages like that without bringing it back. but like I said, we have more urgent things to do at the moment | 17:55 |
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| Aard | netzvieh: hm, that should not be replace. see https://github.com/mer-packages/systemd/blob/master/rpm/systemd.spec#L401 | 17:56 |
| netzvieh | Aard: I set it to persistent on 1.0.4.20 and after update to 1.0.5.16 it wasn't anymore | 17:57 |
| netzvieh | so I'm missing the logs from update until yesterday morning | 17:58 |
| Aard | netzvieh: according to the packaging you're wrong. :p so, no idea what happened :) | 18:00 |
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| netzvieh | Aard: systemd-config-sailfish-0.4.8-10.33.1.jolla.noarch maybe? | 18:06 |
| netzvieh | it's the provider of /etc/systemd/journald.conf | 18:06 |
| Aard | oh | 18:07 |
| Aard | you're right, I didn't check if the installed configuration actually comes from that package | 18:07 |
| chem|st | Aard: yes, that is why I said that it overwrites with the release version again, having a new version would probably not have this problem | 18:08 |
| chem|st | netzvieh: they are not overwriting all config files, just some of them | 18:09 |
| netzvieh | chem|st: well, that's the one where I ran into it ;) but good thing they don't overwrite everything | 18:10 |
| chem|st | oh no well they overwrote all config files I altered but if I understand correctly that this is a missing %config flag somewhere | 18:10 |
| chem|st | so actually the installer does not know that it is having configfiles | 18:11 |
| chem|st | and just cpies them over | 18:11 |
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| chem|st | hail, I cracked the 100 golden badges some days ago... ;) | 18:14 |
| chem|st | netzvieh: sd-mount.sh for example is not overwritten (but that is no config^^) | 18:17 |
| chem|st | what I recognized is that with every upgrade the jolla-preload package is altered and we lost the "the first one" things there | 18:18 |
| chem|st | the pictures got cropped but have the same resolution and 2x the size as before if not deleted | 18:19 |
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| chem|st | we started with 26 pictures which got extended to 30, pic 27-30 are renamed cropped but enhanced, everything else got deleted | 18:20 |
| chem|st | the product video got added and toh-video and the tfo-video got deleted | 18:20 |
| Aard | chem|st: you should still have those pictures in the gallery, though | 18:21 |
| chem|st | nope I have till 26 in the gallery | 18:21 |
| chem|st | my backup holds the other pictures | 18:22 |
| Aard | you should have the old ones, and the ones added later you shouldn't see | 18:22 |
| chem|st | so is the videos, I have tfo and toh but not the product video in nemo/ | 18:22 |
| chem|st | yes I have the ones from the beginning | 18:22 |
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| ortylp | Has anybody working gadugadu (Polish IM) on Jolla? | 18:28 |
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| * Aard hasn't touched gadugadu for ages. no idea | 18:32 | |
| coderus | ortylp: afaik there is gadugadu support in telepathy-haze | 18:33 |
| coderus | you can use libpurple and add gadugadu | 18:34 |
| ortylp | coderus: I wanted to know if anybody got it working before I try applyint the magic mc-tool commands as for N9 | 18:34 |
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| coderus | well, when i did port of libpurple to N9 gadugadu worked (3 years ago) | 18:35 |
| coderus | no idea for now | 18:35 |
| coderus | but if telepathy-haze still maintained and gadugadu support exists it should work | 18:35 |
| ortylp | coderus: it works on desktop in pidgin | 18:36 |
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| tbr | ortylp: gadu should work through telepathy-haze | 18:43 |
| tbr | no idea if anyone built it yet | 18:43 |
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| coderus | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/norguhtar:/haze/sailfish_1.0.2.5_armv7hl/ | 18:56 |
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| ortylp | thx | 19:11 |
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| ortylp | so in other words, it should work, but nobody tested it | 19:12 |
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| coderus | at sailfish yes | 19:13 |
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| lenny | Hello, how do I chat over xmpp with my jolla? | 19:32 |
| RzR | https://together.jolla.com/question/4998/xmpp-other-than-google-talk-does-not-work/ | 19:33 |
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| lenny | RzR: I don't get it. If it was working, would my contacts show up in people? | 19:41 |
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| entil | even newer version of mitäkuuluu, nice! | 19:53 |
| Acce | lenny: that's how it went for me if I remember correctly | 19:53 |
| entil | I do miss the oldskool theme :/ | 19:53 |
| Acce | you need to login from the events view's pulley menu's presence details | 19:55 |
| Nicd- | coderus: is it expected to lose conv history when upgrading to mitakuuluu2? | 19:58 |
| coderus | entil: i had no time for theming | 19:59 |
| coderus | will do it asap | 19:59 |
| coderus | Nicd-: no | 19:59 |
| entil | coderus: hehe, take your time, bro :) | 19:59 |
| coderus | it's new application | 19:59 |
| coderus | Nicd-: it will be installed separately | 20:00 |
| entil | coderus: I'm just happy to hear you haven't given up on it completely | 20:00 |
| Nicd- | coderus: but there's no import function? | 20:00 |
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| entil | coderus: otherwise I have to congratulate you, so far this seems like a huge improvement | 20:00 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: it should import whatsapp.db automatically if exists. if you used old pre-release versions you need to full quit, remove mitakuuluu2 database.db file and start it again. | 20:03 |
| Nicd- | I've only used the old mitakuuluu | 20:04 |
| lenny | Acce: All i get is a blinking green light that then stops :( | 20:04 |
| coderus | Nicd-: then unfortunately import failed for your database :( | 20:04 |
| Nicd- | my chats are all gone, only group chats are shown and even they have no logs. it's not a big deal, just wondering if it was on purpose | 20:05 |
| Nicd- | anyway thanks for all your hard work coderus :) | 20:06 |
| entil | I didn't think to uninstall the old version, figured the new one would take care of that.. I probably even had it running, not sure, but the instant I started mitakuuluu2 I got 4 messages | 20:06 |
| entil | that were apparently pending for hours, because that's the kind of problems I had with mitakuuluu before | 20:06 |
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| coderus | you should use bugtracker for all kind of problems | 20:08 |
| entil | I have barely time enough to breathe, I tended to reconnect and it worked | 20:09 |
| entil | but I know, bug trackers exist for that reason, but compiling a report takes time and I haven't had any really | 20:09 |
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| Acce | lenny: are you using xmpp service with "trusted" certificate? | 20:18 |
| Acce | if not, try ignoring ssl errors as described in RzR's link | 20:18 |
| netzvieh | RzR: thanks for the link ^ :) finally got my jabber acc working, after I gave up on 1.0.2.5 :D | 20:21 |
| netzvieh | well the second post about importing those certificates is the better one ;) | 20:22 |
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