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| Kabouik | Hey guys, I just purchased an Android app from Amazon store and in the Appstore in Jolla, the download fails | 00:38 |
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| Kabouik | Is there any way to get the apk from my computer and transfer it to the Jolla? | 00:39 |
| Oni^ | Kabouik: try http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ | 00:40 |
| Kabouik | Does it work for Amazon store? | 00:41 |
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| Kabouik | Looks like it doesn't work :( | 00:50 |
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| Kabouik | Nobody knows? I've just paid for an app I can't download :< | 01:01 |
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| Kabouik | :/ | 01:11 |
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| Kabouik | Is there anyone here who succeeds downloading apps from the Amazon Appstore cloud? | 01:18 |
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| Sidde | if the led is blinking green very fast and screen is unresponsive. What does that mean? | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | ssh in? | 06:04 |
| Sidde | i'm not connected to any wifi | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | when did it start doing it approximately? | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | circumstances | 06:05 |
| Sidde | that is what i was trying to do when it started doing this | 06:05 |
| Sidde | once i had similar problem connecting to wifi and the led started blinking red very fast | 06:06 |
| Sidde | but now it's blinking green. So i'm guessing it's different error codes | 06:07 |
| Sidde | now it stopped blinking green and instead turned into a steady red | 06:09 |
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| Sidde | and now it rebooted :D | 06:10 |
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| Stskeeps | steady red = shutting down | 06:12 |
| Sidde | the problem solved itself. But i have only had problems with the wifi at work and never at home. I'm guessing that there is something flaky with the wifi driver. Something it does not like but works most of the times | 06:12 |
| Sidde | both uses wpa2-psk | 06:14 |
| tbr | wifi chipset interactions can be really obscure | 06:14 |
| * tbr has seen plenty of those in the day | 06:15 | |
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| tbr | TI and its wilink5 chipset was quite "famous" in some configurations | 06:16 |
| tbr | also I have an intel chipset that _really_ hates weak signal conditions on the broadcom chipset of my WNDR3700. It will lock up and reboot the wifi card. resulting in loss of network for 30-60s | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | morn tbr | 06:18 |
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| Kiranos | Stskeeps: after latest update, going from wlan to 3g data is very slow, was much faster before last update, when I leave home I have to wait a pretty long time before I can use spotify. Did something change in last firmware that might cause this? | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | Kiranos: it's 'when walking out the door it still looks like it's connected'? | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | It says no internet connection | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | and its when I go outside my wlan range | 06:22 |
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| Kiranos | and it should auto to 3g | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | it does but it takes a long time | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps lpotter can help answer | 06:23 |
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| Kiranos | lpotter: ^ if your around | 06:23 |
| lpotter | hmm? | 06:23 |
| Kiranos | lpotter: if you can read the last few lines | 06:25 |
| Kiranos | about wlan to 3g takes a while before 3g gets connected | 06:25 |
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| lpotter | few reasons why that might be.. usually connman is slow to remove the old AP | 06:27 |
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| Kiranos | ok, it was faster before last update, I've seen a noticable longer time for it to connect to the 3g when I leave home | 06:35 |
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| spiiroin | Sidde: red = ui is not responsive during display on->off transition ; green = the same for display off->on transition | 07:24 |
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| lbt | hey matrixx | 10:10 |
| lbt | err - oops - was scrolled back a lot :) | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | lbt: beware it's no longer the weekend and you gotta pay the rent ;-) | 10:12 |
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| lbt | *g* | 10:14 |
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| matrixx | lbt: you can say hi to me anytime, no need for reason :) | 10:39 |
| lbt | *g* | 10:39 |
| lbt | and I've missed you - been far too long since I was in .fi | 10:40 |
| lbt | hmm... when's Devaamo | 10:41 |
| chem|st | would be nice to not overwrite unchanged configs with default ones... now I have no log of a lipstick hickup from last night... | 10:41 |
| lbt | chem|st: you mean changed? | 10:41 |
| chem|st | all screens became one and launcher started to show like in edit mode background but without | 10:42 |
| tbr | lbt: depends, currently there is an idea floting to have it in early autumn | 10:42 |
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| matrixx | lbt: too far indeed | 10:44 |
| chem|st | lbt: not exactly, what you mean is if user changed config do not overwrite, I mean the debian way, do not write config files if the package gets updated and no changes happened to the config package wise | 10:44 |
| lbt | tbr: cool - looking fwd to it | 10:44 |
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| lbt | chem|st: worth logging an issue - at the very least they should be backed up | 10:45 |
| lbt | matrixx: we shall have to reserve some time for a proper session! | 10:46 |
| chem|st | lbt: simple post-install script to check if installed or upgraded, if installed write config if upgraded only write if previous package default differes from current... | 10:46 |
| chem|st | lbt: tjc for the config part? | 10:47 |
| lbt | chem|st: it's probably bad packaging - not marked %config | 10:47 |
| lbt | yes | 10:47 |
| lbt | and rpmish should handle that | 10:47 |
| * lbt goes back to his writing ... o/ | 10:48 | |
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| Yaniel | ffs tracker, get your ship together | 10:57 |
| Yaniel | I mean come on, one does not expect half an album to just... never show up | 10:57 |
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| jussi | what is the hole on the top of the phone for? top left? | 11:01 |
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| Acce | alternative mic? | 11:07 |
| stephg | yeah isn't it noise cancellation | 11:07 |
| stephg | ? | 11:07 |
| tbr | there are two Mics, correct | 11:08 |
| chem|st | is the UI lipstick or silica, I mean the launcher + home-screen | 11:09 |
| chem|st | lipstick is the actual desktop isn't it? | 11:10 |
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| matrixx | lbt: sure, I have probably forgot everything in lack of practise :/ | 11:11 |
| lbt | *g* it'll all come back | 11:12 |
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| jussi | is anyone working on KDE connect for Jolla ? | 11:20 |
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| * matrixx just won a younited hoodie in twitter \o/ | 11:28 | |
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| kimmoli | \o/ | 11:29 |
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| tbr | heheh | 12:29 |
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| mornfall | connman is super-confused once again :\ | 14:04 |
| mornfall | is it really so hard to find a working network setup thingy? | 14:04 |
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| netzvieh | mhh my jolla keeps it's IP when switching from hotspot wlan to home wlan, shouldn't be that way :( | 14:46 |
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| ggabriel | netzvieh: that depends on a bunch of things :) | 14:50 |
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| netzvieh | ggabriel: please elaborate :) | 14:50 |
| ggabriel | netzvieh: in a bit | 14:50 |
| netzvieh | thanks :) | 14:51 |
| ggabriel | netzvieh: long story short, it's possible | 14:51 |
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| tbr | Meeting starts in one minute on #mer-meeting! | 14:58 |
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| laehtis | tbr: thanks for info! | 15:04 |
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| ggabriel | netzvieh: basically, if your hotspot and your ap use the same net and your dhcp server isn't too restrictive, it's ok for the phone to keep the ip address | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, y dhcp server assigns a static ip to my phone, so it changes most of the time | 15:14 |
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| netzvieh | mhh, my hotspot gives 192.168.43. IPs, my home network 192.168.0. both are /24 so that's problematic | 15:32 |
| ggabriel | netzvieh: can the jolla access internet in both places? | 15:33 |
| netzvieh | sadly I can't do a thing with my dhcp server config wise (shitty router, and I didn't have time to get another one) | 15:33 |
| netzvieh | ggabriel: yep | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | and you are 100% sure that your home network is /24 and not /16? :) | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | so, netmask 255.255.255.0 and not 255.255.0.0 | 15:34 |
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| netzvieh | ggabriel: ip a s on my desktop tells me 192.168.0.14/24 ;) | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | netzvieh: then it doesn't make sense | 15:40 |
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| netzvieh | ggabriel: yes. might be a problem with the router, but my laptops don't have that problem after being connected to hotspot and then switching to homenetwork | 15:41 |
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| ShadowJK | device is getting hot, please close all apps :( | 15:50 |
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| tbr | once again a very good meeting | 16:35 |
| laehtis | tbr: indeed. Though first time for me, was a pleasure to see how good the community is | 16:35 |
| ggabriel | glad it went well | 16:36 |
| ggabriel | you guys aiming for a weekly meeting? | 16:36 |
| tbr | for the moment | 16:36 |
| tbr | once the major things are ironed out we'll switch to biweekly | 16:36 |
| ggabriel | good stuff | 16:37 |
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| Kiranos | I'm in need of a jolla armband which fits for running | 16:38 |
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| Kiranos | is there an android phone with the same measurments I can buy a case for? | 16:38 |
| ggabriel | Kiranos: the sony xperia sp is almost exactly the same | 16:38 |
| tbr | Kiranos: hmmm, depends on how snug the fit. I have good experience with belt pockets for Nexus4 | 16:38 |
| tbr | if there is a rectangular phone that would be a much better reference though | 16:39 |
| ggabriel | Kiranos: maybe a couple of mm smaller | 16:39 |
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| Kiranos | ggabriel: which is smaller, the jolla? | 16:40 |
| ggabriel | i personally use my hand to hold the phone because i like to live my life dangerously | 16:40 |
| ggabriel | Kiranos: the sony xperia | 16:40 |
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| Kiranos | tbr: suggestion of nexus 4 is a bit larger than sony xperia sp | 16:42 |
| Kiranos | so it might be a good fit | 16:42 |
| tbr | Kiranos: the downside there is that it has round corners | 16:42 |
| tbr | but otherwise almost the same dimensions | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | same with the xperia, but they're not as rounded as the nexus 4 iirc | 16:42 |
| Kiranos | ok thanks! | 16:43 |
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| Kiranos | ggabriel: tbr will probably go with http://www.amazon.co.uk/iGadgitz-Neoprene-Sports-Jogging-Armband-Classic-Black/dp/B00CA1Y9S6 seems like a good fit | 16:47 |
| ggabriel | looks ok | 16:48 |
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| ggabriel | volume buttons won't work :P | 16:48 |
| Kiranos | that doesnt matter | 16:49 |
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| ggabriel | you just crank it up to 11, don't you? :) | 16:50 |
| Kiranos | yep :) all the way up | 16:50 |
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| tbr | headphone hole is probably misaligned | 16:59 |
| ggabriel | tbr: good point | 17:02 |
| ggabriel | but that's easy to fix ;-) | 17:02 |
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| Sail0r | now twitter is completly useless -.- | 18:10 |
| Sail0r | and it does not log anything to journalctl | 18:12 |
| Sail0r | when it freezes | 18:12 |
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| Sail0r | what the fuck happend to my phone after the update :(. Email settings cannot be opened it only says "Settings not responding", Twitter manual update leads to a complete hang of lipstick, automatic updates are not working anymore | 18:15 |
| Sail0r | and nothing in journalctl | 18:16 |
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| ggabriel | Sail0r: i'm assuming you're calling journalctl as root | 18:16 |
| Sail0r | jep | 18:16 |
| ggabriel | interesting | 18:17 |
| ggabriel | you do have plenty of space in the relevant file systems, right? | 18:17 |
| Sail0r | rootfs 14G 5.1G 8.3G 39% / | 18:17 |
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| Sail0r | var systemlog has also plenty of space | 18:18 |
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| Sail0r | that's the only thing i see when it happens: http://nopaste.info/15fce54c79.html | 18:20 |
| ggabriel | Sail0r: i have no clue, and it definitely doesn't happen to me - i have twitter and can access email settings no problem | 18:20 |
| Sail0r | hm strange | 18:21 |
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| Turski | Sail0r: are you using wlan? | 18:21 |
| Sail0r | wlan and 3g is the same | 18:21 |
| Sail0r | *result | 18:21 |
| Turski | Sail0r: because i've noticed some major freezes with wlan | 18:21 |
| Turski | so bad that i've disabled whole wlan | 18:21 |
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| Sail0r | k | 18:22 |
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| Turski | connmann freezes and jams whole lipstick somehow | 18:22 |
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| ggabriel | correction: twitter doesn't work any more for me :P | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | i found it happening in wifi_free() which was a bit unusual | 18:22 |
| Sail0r | oO | 18:22 |
| Sail0r | freezes? | 18:23 |
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| ggabriel | Sail0r: no, just doesn't update, will try to reauthenticate - ont sure our problems are similar | 18:23 |
| Sail0r | 2 days ago it stopped with updates | 18:23 |
| Sail0r | and if i hit update it freeezes | 18:23 |
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| Turski | Stskeeps: oh, you have found something? | 18:24 |
| Sail0r | it does not even sent packets towards twitter | 18:24 |
| Sail0r | if i can trust tcpdump on my def gw ;) | 18:24 |
| ggabriel | ok, twitter fixed | 18:25 |
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| Sail0r | reauthed? | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | Turski: yeah a bit but having problems jugging with debug symbols | 18:25 |
| ggabriel | Sail0r: yup | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | +juggling | 18:26 |
| Sail0r | it constantly says onlinecheck failed for <ssid> | 18:26 |
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| Sail0r | maybe i just try a reboot ;) | 18:27 |
| Sail0r | maybe it starts ilogging afterwards | 18:27 |
| Sail0r | k reboot fixed the twitter problem, but i wonder what it caused | 18:29 |
| Sail0r | settings also started working now oO wtf | 18:30 |
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| teve | 20:33 < bshah> krop: something related to automoc.. | 18:35 |
| teve | 20:33 < bshah> krop: something related to automoc.. | 18:35 |
| teve | 20:33 < bshah> krop: something related to automoc.. | 18:35 |
| teve | 20:33 < bshah> krop: something related to automoc.. | 18:35 |
| teve | sorry | 18:37 |
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| cvp | hi | 18:40 |
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| Kaacz | Sail0r: what about btrfs problem? https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | but this wouldn't be resolved by a reboot? | 19:04 |
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| Kaacz | try # " btrfs fi show" under root .. | 19:05 |
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| Kaacz | if in line with devid is size and used same, there is problem .. :) | 19:06 |
| Kaacz | then will be good run balance | 19:07 |
| Kaacz | all is in that thread .. | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | devid 1 size 13.75GB used 8.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 19:08 |
| Kaacz | ah. time for beer degustation .. bye :) | 19:08 |
| Sail0r | everything ok but thx for the tip | 19:08 |
| Kaacz | ok, btrfs looks ok .. | 19:08 |
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| szopin_sailing | is wayland 1.2(1.3) planned/in the works? | 20:26 |
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| szopin_sailing | asking because someone recently brought up on tmo wayland-friendly project (mpv), that is on 1.2 since 6 months | 20:29 |
| szopin_sailing | if we're expecting everything x to move to wayland, having outdated wayland will be a major pain | 20:30 |
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| chem|st | szopin_sailing: you are better off asking it on the develML or is #sailfishos I think | 20:31 |
| szopin_sailing | there are some jolla guys here no? | 20:32 |
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| szopin_sailing | because it does seem like a major compatibility component, kernel like, like with n900, too old kernel=no new things, but as new things move to wayland right now there will be no old things, if/when vlc move to wayland it will be 1.3(4,5?) | 20:35 |
| szopin_sailing | backporting to wayland 1.1 is always an option, waylandpower kind of thing | 20:36 |
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| szopin_sailing | taken to #sailfishos, thx | 20:41 |
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