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| nh1402 | saidinesh5: I decided to go with Arch Linux, as I wasn't the one who set it up manually ;), thanks krnlyng__ | 11:06 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 11:06 |
| saidinesh5 | do install yaourt, if you're on Arch. life saver | 11:07 |
| saidinesh5 | which Desktop environment | 11:07 |
| saidinesh5 | ? | 11:07 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: at the moment, none. Haven't finished the installation process yet. | 11:07 |
| nh1402 | boots to the terminal atm | 11:08 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh.. next stop setting up users, installing drivers, and then I think comes the desktop environment part | 11:09 |
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| nh1402 | !seen miau | 11:59 |
| merbot | nh1402: miau was last seen in #sfdroid 2 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 23 seconds ago: <miau> saidinesh5: Do i need the binary blobs to compile cm? | 11:59 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: did you hear about Android O developer preview being released yesterday? | 12:02 |
| saidinesh5 | yep. doesnt seem that big to me | 12:03 |
| nh1402 | for now | 12:03 |
| nh1402 | Picture in Picture sounds interesting | 12:03 |
| saidinesh5 | *cough*applet layer *cough* | 12:04 |
| nh1402 | more powersaving stuff | 12:04 |
| nh1402 | more notification stuff | 12:04 |
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| nh1402 | not much we can do on the notification stuff in sfdroid though, would just have to neuter it and have the basics passed through to Sailfish. | 12:06 |
| saidinesh5 | true. its almost like they're turning notifications into full blown apps | 12:07 |
| nh1402 | speaking of which/kind of could you make a daemon for Sailfish that listens on a socket for sfdroid app installs and uninstalls, that my app would pass you? | 12:09 |
| saidinesh5 | that sounds like overtly complicated. I think it is best handled with a purely android service | 12:10 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: that's not going to happen, android can't access the right location to save the desktop file to. | 12:11 |
| saidinesh5 | it can. it has acccess to home folder. if not one needs to give it access to that path | 12:11 |
| nh1402 | no it doesn't | 12:13 |
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| saidinesh5 | it does. if it has access to /usr/ ... i really dont see how it doesnt have access to /home/ ... | 12:15 |
| saidinesh5 | both are on the same physical partition too | 12:15 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: it has access to /sdcard and /data/data/app-name | 12:17 |
| nh1402 | and that's it | 12:17 |
| saidinesh5 | that's the java api? | 12:23 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: yes | 12:26 |
| nh1402 | same for both i think | 12:26 |
| saidinesh5 | what happens say when you create a symlink from /home/nemo/ to /sdcard? | 12:32 |
| saidinesh5 | Although i cant say i confirm this because i just wrote a test python script being run as a normal android app, which was able to access a file in /data/local/tmp | 12:34 |
| saidinesh5 | (normal android app = no root or anything) | 12:34 |
| saidinesh5 | i think it just depends on the path permissions /groups the /home/nemo/.local/share/applications has | 12:35 |
| saidinesh5 | especially since selinux is disabled, i dont see how else android could enforce such path constraints | 12:36 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: you what | 12:40 |
| saidinesh5 | I instaled QPython and wrote a little script to access a file i put in /data/local/tmp | 12:40 |
| saidinesh5 | QPython is a little python interpreter app in Android. nifty. | 12:41 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: do the same in Java or C++ for a normal apk without asking for root permissions, or converting the app to a system app | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402: this technically is a normal Java/C++ app itself. not a system app. no root permissions. it loads a python interperter.so and passes the script to it | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | picked this path because otherwise i have to set up that whole monstrosity of Android SDK.. | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | $ ls /data/.stowaways/sailfishos/home/ -l | 12:48 |
| saidinesh5 | drwxr-x--- u1_root u1_root 2017-03-17 22:19 nemo | 12:48 |
| saidinesh5 | I think that explains it | 12:49 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402: either way wouldnt it be easier for you to symlink that path to /sdcard or change permissions for that path to be world writeable instead of running a whole new daemon? | 12:51 |
| nh1402 | maybe | 12:54 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: not sure how dangerous that would end up being | 13:00 |
| saidinesh5 | not any more dangerous than running any other Sailfish App there ever is | 13:01 |
| nh1402 | no | 13:05 |
| saidinesh5 | yes. Any sailfish app has almost full access to /home directory. no checks whatsoever. i dont see how running another app in Android VM with full access to just one path in there is any different | 13:07 |
| nh1402 | isn't /sdcard symlinked to somewhere else in Android? | 13:34 |
| nh1402 | data/media/0 or something | 13:34 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: ^ | 13:38 |
| saidinesh5 | usually, yes | 13:40 |
| saidinesh5 | its usually like this: https://source.android.com/devices/storage/config-example.html | 13:41 |
| saidinesh5 | iirc it was specific to the android user thouguh | 13:42 |
| saidinesh5 | on Moto G2 I think.. when i was root in terminal /sdcard used to not work | 13:42 |
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