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| Xray2000 | any more news of sfdroid on fp2 ? | 12:24 |
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| mal | no | 12:25 |
| mal | at least not from me, I have done other things | 12:25 |
| Xray2000 | ok thanks mal i hope it will be there soon ;) | 12:26 |
| mal | that is not very high priority for me | 12:27 |
| Xray2000 | Ok i see and understand no problem i dont know the thing to compile it so otherway i already have try it. | 12:27 |
| Xray2000 | as i'm not that long on Linux this is in some way new for me ;) | 12:28 |
| mal | I'm more interested in sailfish side of development than android side | 12:28 |
| Xray2000 | Ha i see yes understand but the problem i have i can not use sf only as my bank app dont exits for it and that i need | 12:29 |
| Xray2000 | the only thing i know of reading is a lot of user like to see sfdroid on fp2 for a lot of people is only sfos not usefull | 12:30 |
| Xray2000 | at last in Belgium and the Nederlands. | 12:31 |
| mal | well since I have already done most of the fp2 sailfish porting alone I think other people should contribute to sfdroid for example | 12:31 |
| Xray2000 | I can unserstand that mal, as i have told you linux is new for me and i dont even dont know how to start otherway i have try it ;) | 12:32 |
| mal | yes, no problem | 12:33 |
| mal | but I assume there should be some fp2 users with development background | 12:33 |
| Xray2000 | i think the problem is there are not enouf sfos users on fp2 | 12:34 |
| mal | I think this is the usual chicken and egg problem, not enough sailfish users because no android support and therefore not enough developers to make that happen | 12:35 |
| Xray2000 | Indeed | 12:35 |
| Xray2000 | When i read the forum of Fairphone everyone like to have android support. | 12:36 |
| Xray2000 | I have see your name there also ;) | 12:36 |
| Xray2000 | But no one dont know how there i think | 12:36 |
| mal | I spent most of yesterday trying to get the first ever android 7 based sailfish port working, didn't succeed yet | 12:38 |
| Xray2000 | Nice ! | 12:38 |
| Xray2000 | the only one that mebay can make sfdroid and we have now will be entil let's hope hi can found time to do it ;) | 12:48 |
| Xray2000 | if have been search and serach for a other way to run android apps on fp2 with sfos but it seems there is no other way | 12:48 |
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| Acou_Bass | i saw a video a few months ago showing sfdroid running android apps in seperate windows (rather than all the android system in a single window) - is this still a thing, or is it just not in the 'main release' so to speak yet? | 17:33 |
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| mal | Acou_Bass: currently the multiwindow approach is the main one being used | 18:07 |
| Acou_Bass | ive been using the sfdroid download on the mer wiki page for mako, and dont see any way to make it use the multi window setup, so figured it was a new feature not in the release yet | 18:08 |
| Acou_Bass | im not complaining, thankfully sailfish has a decent app ecosystem, but i saw the video and got curious hehe | 18:09 |
| mal | Acou_Bass: probably that build is very old | 18:10 |
| Acou_Bass | ah, would i have to build it myself then? or is there another place to grab builds to test | 18:10 |
| mal | not sure who made the build | 18:11 |
| mal | Acou_Bass: which cm base do you use on the device? | 18:15 |
| Acou_Bass | i believe 11 :P | 18:15 |
| Acou_Bass | yep 1 | 18:16 |
| Acou_Bass | 11** | 18:16 |
| Acou_Bass | i understand there is work under way to get a CM12 base but im not sure if thats a good idea yet? | 18:16 |
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| mal | Acou_Bass: looking at sfdroid repos the old cm11 base version hasn't been updated to multiwindow | 18:18 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh makes sense | 18:18 |
| Acou_Bass | i think im probably safer waiting for the CM12 base to come down the pipe, like i said the multiwindow was more of a curiosity for me than an urgent feature :D | 18:20 |
| mal | ok | 18:20 |
| mal | the multiwindow is quite nice, I have tried in on fp2 | 18:20 |
| Acou_Bass | seems like it brings the experience close to what official jollas have | 18:21 |
| mal | yes, sfdroid is still a little unstable sometimes | 18:22 |
| Acou_Bass | ive not used it for anything serious, ive not realy found myself 'missing' any apps just using native sailfish ones, so i can live with a little instability hehe | 18:27 |
| Xray2000 | Acou_bass: That's nice in my case i can not use sfos without sfdroid here in Belgium like my bank only use android support apps even not a website anymore (: | 18:35 |
| Acou_Bass | doh! | 18:35 |
| Acou_Bass | ive never really used android anyway, especially not as a 'daily driver' device so i guess i never got sucked into the ecosystem | 18:36 |
| mal | Xray2000: there is really no way to use the bank services using normal computer with a browser? | 18:36 |
| Xray2000 | Not with my bak no | 18:37 |
| Xray2000 | bank | 18:37 |
| mal | my bank will also move from paper code table to mobile app for codes, but they do provide a physical code machine for those who do not have android or apple device | 18:38 |
| entil | oh yeah, I need to get one of those | 18:38 |
| mal | I would change to another bank if they forced using android or apple device | 18:38 |
| Acou_Bass | my bank gave me a little 2fa device creator thingy to login to their website... thankfully theyve not shut the site down yet | 18:39 |
| Xray2000 | Yes i know but the mostly bank dont use it here any more a website bcoss everyone has a smartphone and more and more user useing only a phone or a ipad etc... | 18:40 |
| Acou_Bass | i have to say i agree with mal on that one, seems like pointless vendor lock-in =\ | 18:40 |
| mal | I wouldn't use my phone to do banking | 18:40 |
| Xray2000 | It's becoss it's to expansif for them here, a website and make apps the need to make a choice the told me | 18:40 |
| Xray2000 | And last year i have try it when the website was still there from a Jolla C and i can not login on that becoss of some thing the website use i think. | 18:41 |
| Acou_Bass | crazy | 18:41 |
| mal | excuses from the bank, it's not really that expensive to maintain a websit | 18:42 |
| Xray2000 | Indeed Belgium is the most expansif country for internet use. | 18:42 |
| Xray2000 | I know Mal. | 18:42 |
| mal | basically just a frontend to the same backend as used in the app | 18:43 |
| Xray2000 | Even the push people here some bank to have the lasted android os or the app dont works anymore it realy sucks | 18:43 |
| Acou_Bass | and i bet they dont let you use their app on rooted/jailbroken devices either? | 18:43 |
| Acou_Bass | my bank has mobile apps and they wont work on root/jailbroken ones | 18:43 |
| Xray2000 | I have now the Faiphone open and it works | 18:43 |
| Xray2000 | i only get a message that it is danger | 18:43 |
| Xray2000 | but the app works | 18:43 |
| Acou_Bass | thats slightly better :D | 18:44 |
| Acou_Bass | at least youre not completely SOL, though a bit sad that workarounds like this are necessary | 18:44 |
| Xray2000 | the strange thing was the apps was not working on a Jolla C and with my nexus 5 last year it was working with sfdroid ;) | 18:44 |
| mal | using an app in a phone would make my life more difficult, I keep statistics of money usage so copying the data from the mobile app is probably not easily possible | 18:45 |
| Xray2000 | I understand Mal | 18:46 |
| mal | eventhough I really don't even need to keep those statistics I still do just for fun, interesting to see how usage to different things changes over time | 18:47 |
| Xray2000 | I think Mal that's why user of the fp2 like to see that mutch sfdroid here and the nederlands becoss of some company's pussing people of using apps and no website anymore. | 18:47 |
| Xray2000 | That's nice Mal ;) | 18:48 |
| mal | indeed, never thought there would be places where they stopped using banking websites | 18:49 |
| mal | I have now 8 years of statistics, gives some nice trends | 18:49 |
| Xray2000 | yes Belgium is become realy a shit country | 18:49 |
| Xray2000 | It's going bad and bad | 18:49 |
| Xray2000 | Anyway Mal i hope there will be a dev that can make this happen ;) | 18:55 |
| mal | we'll see if I have time, I was trying to fix the compass on fp2 today, no luck yet | 18:56 |
| Xray2000 | That would be verry nice from you Mal many thanks for that !!! | 18:57 |
| Xray2000 | Mal is it so hard this sfdroid ? | 18:58 |
| mal | the basic build is not difficult but debugging the issues is | 18:59 |
| Xray2000 | i was think it would be easy becoss it's there for the X and as i know it's the same kernel | 18:59 |
| Xray2000 | Ha i see | 18:59 |
| mal | I need to test the patches used in X and see if there is any difference | 19:00 |
| Xray2000 | ok | 19:00 |
| Xray2000 | what can happen if i try to install the sfdroid from the x just for a test ? can my device become broke | 19:01 |
| mal | I doubt it will work, fp2 uses different android base, cm12.1 on X vs aosp5 in fp2 | 19:02 |
| Xray2000 | Ok but my device can not become broke | 19:02 |
| Xray2000 | I will give it a go and see ;) | 19:03 |
| mal | well it may fail to boot and you might need to reinstall it | 19:03 |
| NeKit | <Acou_Bass> my bank has mobile apps and they wont work on root/jailbroken ones | 19:04 |
| NeKit | Sberbank app in Russia limits functions on rooted devices | 19:04 |
| NeKit | guess what, people started to patch banking app instead | 19:04 |
| mal | not sure if sfdroid is seen as rooted or not | 19:04 |
| Xray2000 | Ok will try it and se | 19:04 |
| Xray2000 | On my Nexus 5 my bank app was working and i dont have got a message it was rooted | 19:05 |
| mal | Xray2000: I highly doubt it will work, like 90+ % sure it won't | 19:05 |
| Xray2000 | Ok thanks Mal | 19:05 |
| NeKit | does X use same SoC with FP2? | 19:06 |
| Xray2000 | So Mal i think you are correct as the app dont see it as root in sfdroid. | 19:07 |
| mal | NeKit: well both are msm8974 and snapdragon 801 | 19:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | one X results rooted | 19:41 |
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