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| entil | lulz, wasn't especially looking | 04:33 |
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| entil | I just never understood why he reached out to me about sfdroid | 04:34 |
| entil | besides which, community interest is valuable... | 04:34 |
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| krnlyng | Xray2000: it will get non-quiet if there is a cm13 port and i find some time to port :) | 07:49 |
| Xray2000 | Ok i see i'm waiting for the sfdroid for fp2 ;) | 07:54 |
| entil | I don't know if anyone's working on it really at the moment | 07:54 |
| entil | Xray2000: did you build it? | 07:54 |
| entil | Xray2000: can you show any log output? | 07:54 |
| Xray2000 | No but i know Mal is working on it. | 07:55 |
| entil | I'll buy mal several beers if he is and gets it going | 07:55 |
| entil | I'm out of luck/time/things | 07:55 |
| Xray2000 | I see ;) yes i know and have read a lot of people wait for the sfdroid on the fp2 | 07:56 |
| entil | me not having skills for this is technically a temporary setback, anything can be learned given time, but finding enough time and trading off priorities on usage is where it shits me | 07:57 |
| entil | there are people far better qualified, like mal, whom I'd rather even pay money, and/or beer | 07:57 |
| entil | but unfortunately the majority of people with an interest tend to either wait or be too busy | 07:58 |
| entil | in all niche projects | 07:58 |
| Xray2000 | yes indeed i understand, well i'm not that long on Linux so for me is this also new.. | 07:58 |
| Xray2000 | I can make small apps in qt but that's it ;) | 07:58 |
| entil | I think the question is more about fluency in android programming and understanding the architecture in android | 07:59 |
| Xray2000 | Indeed | 07:59 |
| entil | still boggles the mind how aliendalvik can't be purchased | 08:00 |
| Xray2000 | it would be better when Jolla just send out the aliandalvik for porters also but i know this cost a lot of money but that would be good when the have that opstion. | 08:01 |
| entil | I sent a message to the aliendalvik guys asking ytf they won't sell it, and word on the streets is that it would be too expensive, so I asked them how expensive would it be? | 08:01 |
| entil | they did not reply | 08:01 |
| saidinesh5 | i have a bunch of links here about android internals btw. https://trello.com/c/JvkxnGMr/4-port-sf-droid | 08:02 |
| saidinesh5 | entil: i think they have to make custom modifications for it to run on $DEVICE | 08:03 |
| saidinesh5 | like say porting CyanogenMod to run on $DEVICE | 08:03 |
| entil | oh, so it's not that far apart from sfdroid | 08:04 |
| entil | I thought it was more generic | 08:04 |
| saidinesh5 | not sure.. just my guess based on how every android_device_<vendor>_<device> is quite different.. | 08:05 |
| saidinesh5 | okay i may definitely be wrong though | 08:06 |
| entil | Xray2000: out of curiosity, did you use my script? | 08:14 |
| entil | and same goes out to mal | 08:14 |
| entil | I'd like to add RPM building to it next time I deal with it | 08:14 |
| Xray2000 | I have see your script but dont have try it | 08:15 |
| Xray2000 | but i will try it today to build it | 08:16 |
| Xray2000 | can you send me the link again please | 08:16 |
| entil | https://gist.github.com/mjtorn/6cf8ed8b33fd91b3ffa05e7981b8f769 | 08:17 |
| Xray2000 | thanks! | 08:17 |
| entil | it needs you to have the basic sources checked out | 08:17 |
| saidinesh5 | entil: i added that bit :P | 08:18 |
| saidinesh5 | wrote a basic spec file to package the sfos bits we compiled | 08:18 |
| Xray2000 | ok guy what i need to build this ? | 08:19 |
| entil | saidinesh5: added to my script? as a fork? | 08:19 |
| entil | smurfy still has a fork alive, I did merge it at some point | 08:19 |
| saidinesh5 | well.. i started off with your script... I deleted so much from it that it looks nothing like the original now | 08:19 |
| saidinesh5 | https://gist.github.com/saidinesh5/3262c31c88776445544c8b2804ee02df | 08:19 |
| saidinesh5 | moved the packaging bits to the spec file, moved the fetch parts to a local manifest | 08:20 |
| saidinesh5 | Xray2000: you need the whole sailfish build environment from hadk for this | 08:20 |
| Xray2000 | Ok | 08:20 |
| entil | saidinesh5: kimmoli has a spec file as well, but yeah, might as well leech yours and see | 08:21 |
| entil | the risk with everyone building their own way is that bugs can creep in (not that I'm saying my build script is the ultimate way to go ;P) | 08:21 |
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| saidinesh5 | of course... the thing started off with me wanting an rpm instead of tar.gz.. | 08:23 |
| saidinesh5 | after that manifest seemed like a nice choice because i was even trimming down the cyanogenmod fat, as i was building a whole system/ | 08:23 |
| Xray2000 | wow i just read the pdf of the dev kit this is not that easy. | 08:26 |
| nh1402 | well with the development of WebAssembly, maybe we'll see ARC 2.0 running on Chrome | 08:28 |
| saidinesh5 | and then run Chrome for android inside that? :P | 08:29 |
| entil | yeah, there are different ways of doing an rpm, the one I've used involves tarballs | 08:31 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh.. tarball -> rpm I see | 08:32 |
| entil | that's what I was going for with the tarball, yes, and that's a step I've done manually | 08:38 |
| entil | next time I build I'll expand the script | 08:38 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: you back on the lxc container stuff now then? | 08:39 |
| saidinesh5 | almost. almost done with my little app and found out a horrible issue: it cant accept user text input becausee of it being a notification window | 08:40 |
| saidinesh5 | so trying to work around that | 08:40 |
| nh1402 | define notification window | 08:41 |
| saidinesh5 | my app sets window.category = "notification" so it wont show up in the window list + it wont steal attention from other window | 08:42 |
| saidinesh5 | but when activated, my app should be able to steal attention... hence my dilemma | 08:42 |
| nh1402 | Sailfish or otherwise? | 08:45 |
| saidinesh5 | this app is a port of this android app to sailfish: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flynx&hl=en | 08:46 |
| nh1402 | ah, I have 0 experience with Qt. If it was an Android app I might have been able to help. | 08:48 |
| saidinesh5 | ahh | 08:50 |
| nh1402 | but it looks like you've got the Android app covered. | 08:51 |
| saidinesh5 | hehh that isn't my android app. jusst that i really missed that in sailfish | 08:52 |
| saidinesh5 | when i had to choose between Z launcher and this, i picked this because Zlauncher involved me having to grok a lot inside the sources of lipstick | 08:53 |
| saidinesh5 | looks like i am back to what i have been trying to avoid | 08:53 |
| saidinesh5 | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nokia.z&hl=en is Z launcher btw. | 08:54 |
| nh1402 | I know about the Z launcher, that's the Windows Phone-esque Android Launcher from Nokia right? while Elop was being groped by Microsoft to get Nokia to make Windows phones. | 08:56 |
| saidinesh5 | oh the Windows Phone-esque bit is not it's main thing though. | 08:59 |
| saidinesh5 | it feels like krunner for my phone | 08:59 |
| nh1402 | it had some weird tile rubbish when it first came out | 09:01 |
| saidinesh5 | oh didn't know that | 09:01 |
| nh1402 | aah, the tile rubbish I'm talking about was the X launcher, either they rebranded it as Z launcher and changed it completely or it's a different app. | 09:02 |
| nh1402 | it seems they've rebranded it, and it's basically a brand new app. | 09:03 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah. Nokia released a tablet with this one | 09:04 |
| nh1402 | that's the tablet that's basically using an iPad body, right? | 09:04 |
| saidinesh5 | no clue.. but it was fairly close to Jolla tablet in specs | 09:05 |
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| mal | entil: there is also a simpler way to build the needed libs, just a single make command with many targets listed | 09:10 |
| entil | mal: kerro toki lisää, what are the targets required? | 09:13 |
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| entil | saidinesh5's script does every mm individually, no idea what the targets might be | 09:14 |
| mal | I just looked at the makefiles and took the targets from those | 09:16 |
| mal | the module names | 09:16 |
| entil | maybe I'll change my script but not sure that's a priority now | 09:18 |
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| mal | not very high priority, getting the UI up is a priority | 09:20 |
| entil | yes | 09:21 |
| entil | I do end up with a tarball after all | 09:22 |
| mal | I build a rpm of those | 09:23 |
| entil | I will too, eventually | 09:23 |
| entil | or manually for the time being | 09:23 |
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| Xray2000 | mal any luck with sfdroid for the fp2 ? | 11:24 |
| mal | Xray2000: no | 11:30 |
| Xray2000 | so that's bad news | 11:31 |
| Xray2000 | i was think it would be easy as on the oneplus x it runs and if i'm not mistake the fp2 has the same kernel | 11:32 |
| mal | I have no information about sfdroid on oneplus x | 11:33 |
| entil | that's kimmoli's platform, right? | 11:33 |
| mal | yes | 11:33 |
| Xray2000 | i have a frend with a oneplus x and hi told me that sfdroid was now on oneplus x that's all i know | 11:34 |
| mal | Xray2000: I had sfdroid also running on fp2 last summer if I remember correctly | 11:34 |
| Xray2000 | nice and why it dont run anymore now ? | 11:35 |
| mal | but after that the android base on fp2 has changed and the sfdroid repos were rebased by others than me | 11:35 |
| mal | so not sure if there is some mistake there or something is missing | 11:35 |
| Xray2000 | i see | 11:36 |
| entil | that would be a long-running mistake :/ | 11:36 |
| entil | hard to pin down now | 11:36 |
| mal | entil: did you get sfdroid running with those repos before rebase? | 11:36 |
| mal | entil: better to start over with clean repos | 11:37 |
| entil | mal: no, but I think I couldn't have, because I used blobs that were outdated and whatnot | 11:37 |
| entil | it never ran for me on any setup | 11:38 |
| entil | and the one rebase I committed was clean, and didn't make it work, so it's all meh | 11:38 |
| entil | would it be possible to figure out which version(s) it was working with and track from there? | 11:38 |
| entil | sounds like it could be horrendous pain | 11:39 |
| mal | I was stupid and overwrote my previously working old source tree with that rebase | 11:40 |
| mal | well partially working | 11:40 |
| Xray2000 | is there no why that we can go back to the worked firmware on the fpe2 | 11:40 |
| Xray2000 | way | 11:40 |
| mal | what? | 11:41 |
| Xray2000 | i mean go back to the worked base before fairphone changes something mal | 11:41 |
| Xray2000 | the base you wa srunning with sfdroid | 11:41 |
| entil | I think that's the part where the pain comes in | 11:41 |
| entil | having to flash the phone with old versions etc, no fun | 11:41 |
| mal | well that not so much about fairphone changing things but me changing things | 11:41 |
| Xray2000 | i see ;) | 11:42 |
| mal | i rebased my sailfish adaptation repos to get latest fixes in and after that we require new sfdroid repos also | 11:42 |
| mal | the old ones might in theory still work but not sure | 11:43 |
| mal | kimmoli: did you make the sfdroid patching for onyx? | 11:43 |
| Xray2000 | entil can we not as the guys of alian that the give all porters a free licency | 11:44 |
| Xray2000 | alien | 11:44 |
| entil | s/as/ask? | 11:44 |
| entil | you can ask if you want, I don't need to hear the "nope." | 11:45 |
| mal | that won't happen | 11:45 |
| Xray2000 | I will try to call them | 11:45 |
| entil | sfdroid is essentially in competition, even if they don't seem to care about this market | 11:45 |
| mal | no reason to even ask | 11:45 |
| Xray2000 | ha ok | 11:45 |
| mal | entil: maybe i should try to start over with sfdroid, but I have so many project going on | 11:46 |
| kimmoli | mal: not to devel | 11:46 |
| mal | kimmoli: who made those? | 11:48 |
| kimmoli | dunno, afaik iirc it is not in image. | 11:49 |
| mal | ok, but Xray2000 said the it does work | 11:49 |
| Xray2000 | I will ask the guy that told me if hi know that | 11:50 |
| Xray2000 | Hi told me that sfdroid was now on the x | 11:50 |
| kimmoli | yes i got it working, but needed some tweaking on init.rc iirc. | 11:52 |
| kimmoli | it was half a year ago, so i don't remember... | 11:53 |
| mal | kimmoli: ok, so basically the same situation that I have, I got it mostly working in the summer but haven't worked on it since | 11:54 |
| kimmoli | yep | 11:54 |
| Xray2000 | https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/sfdroid-for-sailfishos-on-oneplus-one.474965/ | 11:55 |
| Xray2000 | this is where hi get it from | 11:55 |
| Xray2000 | oeps sorry bad link | 11:56 |
| entil | what would it take to start over? | 11:56 |
| entil | grab the x sources, git format-patch HEAD~123 (or somesuch) and apply them onto a clean tree? | 11:56 |
| Xray2000 | http://sailfishmods.de/2016/12/oneplus-x-sailfish-os-inkl-sfdroid-installieren/ | 11:57 |
| Xray2000 | mal: that was the correct link | 11:57 |
| mal | entil: pretty much that | 11:57 |
| mal | entil: since onyx seems to work, I would patch using those | 11:58 |
| entil | but I'm sure onyx's android base is quite different than the fairphone open android, so there's gonna be file locations that don't add up and maybe library api calls that won't work etc? | 11:59 |
| mal | difficult to says | 11:59 |
| entil | I'm just thinking out loud, in case someone sees the log of this channel, wanting to make this work, and has to have an understanding of what needs to happen | 12:00 |
| entil | but it's not unlikely those are the types of issues that would arise, right? | 12:00 |
| mal | some might happen but probably not many | 12:01 |
| entil | but there's like 17 repositories that need to be patched | 12:02 |
| entil | including maybe the external dbus stuff that iirc is completely separate | 12:03 |
| mal | entil: not that many repos | 12:10 |
| entil | I cheated by taking a quick look at saidinesh5's build script | 12:11 |
| saidinesh5 | O_O | 12:11 |
| entil | or maybe some of those shadow master | 12:11 |
| entil | without any differences | 12:11 |
| saidinesh5 | afaik dbus is needed for toggling network on/off | 12:12 |
| mal | entil: only 7 repos based on saidinesh5's script | 12:13 |
| saidinesh5 | av was patched only for nexus 4 iirc. hence 7? | 12:13 |
| saidinesh5 | mal: if you're starting over from scratch, could you really try the lxc approach? that way we can probably share the same sources | 12:15 |
| entil | my brain has this weird dysfunction, the busier I get with "real stuff", the more I want to procrastinate, and the scumbag brain develops interests and thoughts like "it's only 7 repos, I'll have it done in two hours" and then two hours later I'm ready to slit my wrists | 12:15 |
| mal | saidinesh5: I haven't really followed how that is going, did someone get something running in container already? | 12:15 |
| saidinesh5 | i tried but the container wasn't starting | 12:16 |
| saidinesh5 | i then tried to run it in a chroot though | 12:16 |
| saidinesh5 | which backfired.. not sure why.. | 12:16 |
| saidinesh5 | but when i ran it in chroot, i didnt have a lot of needed apks apparently, including SystemUI | 12:16 |
| saidinesh5 | so all i saw was some 10-15 dex2opt processes heating up my device | 12:17 |
| mal | saidinesh5: that is a common issue, I get that on fp2 also | 12:17 |
| mal | it ends up looping through those all the time | 12:17 |
| saidinesh5 | yup.. i think it was looping through too | 12:18 |
| nh1402 | you'll definitely need SystemUI | 12:19 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | without chroot it was definitely messy to even keep track of.. like processes taking their libraries from everywhere: /system/lib, /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/lib , /usr/libexec/sfdroid/system/lib | 12:22 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: doesn't the lxc container help with that, or no? | 12:23 |
| nh1402 | I have no idea what the container does btw | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402: it should. if only i could get it to run | 12:23 |
| nh1402 | why doesn't it run | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402: container basically is chroot + chroot for process tree + ... | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | i am not sure.. something something cgroup | 12:24 |
| nh1402 | how does it handle things that the main OS already runs. There are some shared stuff, which we could just use the Sailfish version of instead of having another process running for Android to do the same thing? | 12:24 |
| saidinesh5 | that depends on the drivers they are trying to use | 12:25 |
| saidinesh5 | the guy who ran android in 2 lxc containers patched his hwcomposer iirc.. to print out only the active screen | 12:25 |
| saidinesh5 | otherwise ti was just flickering through both | 12:25 |
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| saidinesh5 | http://www.axeman.in/blog/2014/12/09/build-your-own-lxc-contain-it-yourself/ | 12:26 |
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| mariogrip | o/ | 14:14 |
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| saidinesh5 | hey mariogrip | 15:06 |
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| krnlyng | hi mariogrip | 19:32 |
| krnlyng | how far did you get with your attempts to make android on ubuntu phones work? | 19:33 |
| krnlyng | inside | 19:33 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi krnlyng | 20:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how do you do ? | 20:12 |
| krnlyng | dr_gogeta86, fine and you? | 20:14 |
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| krnlyng | dr_gogeta86, a little sick | 20:14 |
| krnlyng | dr_gogeta86, and you? | 20:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | not bad ... | 20:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | the new device is coming ... | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and is aarch64 | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and even 14.1 | 20:15 |
| nh1402 | which device | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | zuk z2 | 20:15 |
| NeKit | nice | 20:16 |
| nh1402 | indeed | 20:17 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | the question is ... is stil possible rebase sfdroid for 14.1 | 20:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 20:22 |
| mal | probably, but might need some work | 20:23 |
| mal | dr_gogeta86: but I need to get hybris-14.1 working first | 20:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i bet you finish before the device is in da house | 20:24 |
| mal | well hybris-hal builds already but issues with droid-hal packaging | 20:26 |
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