| Mister_Magister | mal: i've now been consistently killing wayland with my app xd | 00:44 |
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| Mister_Magister | Unknown:0 - The Wayland connection broke. Did the Wayland compositor die? | 00:45 |
| mal | how do you manage to do that? | 00:50 |
| nephros | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request | 06:53 |
| nephros | could not trigger service run for project 'home:nephros:devel:flipperzero' package 'amazfish' | 06:53 |
| nephros | /srv/obs/events/lastnotifications: bad last line at /usr/lib/obs/server/BSFileDB.pm line 269. | 06:53 |
| nephros | ^^^ getting this with osc service rr | 06:53 |
| nephros | note that this is the osc from git master (1.5.1) | 06:54 |
| nephros | ... but the trigger actually does work. | 06:55 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: justk using my app xd | 08:38 |
| Thaodan | nephros: We are aware of the issue and are working on it | 10:50 |
| Thaodan | I noticed the issue yesterday | 10:50 |
| nephros | Thaodan: good to know, thx, | 11:01 |
| nephros | Is it related to the osc version, or completely server/infra side? Just curious. | 11:02 |
| Thaodan | nephros: infra | 11:10 |
| Keto | that obs/events/lastnotifications issue should be fixed now | 11:38 |
| piggz | Thaodan: re ofono/ell ... even if they are using a different ipc library that may be NiH ...is it not still harder for Jolla to work on some custom version of ofono? | 11:43 |
| Thaodan | piggz: I assume so but I'm not working on those two components | 14:51 |
| Thaodan | Just commenting as a private person now: With all the work behind ofono and so on I wonder why not use nm or mm instead. | 14:52 |
| piggz | Thaodan: not sure ... a lot of other mobile OS use MM, but on the flip side, im told that the SFOS port for the pinephone is the most usable! | 14:58 |
| piggz | maybe MM is NiH when ofono existed? | 14:59 |
| piggz | yet another implemention of QMI, slightly different to the ofono one becuase the spec isnt rock solid | 14:59 |
| piggz | means the PP modem fw dev has to take care of 2 possible implementations | 14:59 |
| piggz | ofono is throwing out lots of regular releases now .. just days ago there are qmimodem updates, and a new major version .. so, atm looks healthy | 15:00 |
| Thaodan | piggz: that's exactly the point that it would be easier to share resources this way | 15:01 |
| Thaodan | Last time I heard either ofono or connman had not much development going on | 15:02 |
| piggz | i think there was a worry that ofono was stagnant and goin unmaintained, but that seems to have changed | 15:02 |
| Thaodan | But I wondered why mm was pushed when ofono was already there. | 15:02 |
| piggz | sure, nih ? :) | 15:03 |
| piggz | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/ofono/ofono.git/log/ | 15:03 |
| Thaodan | I asked a purism dev in Bonn why, he couldn't really answer except that they were already using nm on the laptops. | 15:04 |
| piggz | if this is the mm git, its last commit was 2 years ago https://github.com/linux-mobile-broadband/ModemManager | 15:04 |
| Thaodan | this was before all the new on work on mm in the last few years | 15:04 |
| Thaodan | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager | 15:05 |
| Thaodan | that's the repo | 15:05 |
| piggz | yeah, found it | 15:05 |
| Thaodan | The other point why I was reminded of that point again ist that connman/ofono reinvent a lot of things instead of using existing components | 15:05 |
| Thaodan | https://lwn.net/Articles/338715/ | 15:07 |
| piggz | i think the ll thing is about targetting smaller footprint systems? | 15:07 |
| piggz | Thaodan: switch sfos to nm/mm? :) | 15:11 |
| mal | quite a huge task | 15:13 |
| Thaodan | piggz: I think targeting embedded systems was the idea yes but I think the range of resources that one system like a small router vs an enterprise router or a phone has is quite different | 15:13 |
| Thaodan | mal: Indeed. I think we were talking purely about the long term gain. | 15:14 |
| Thaodan | Short term it's a big resource drain of course | 15:15 |
| piggz | if we can get sfos ofono to upstream + some patches for specific apis, i think that would be a good place to be in | 15:15 |
| piggz | like many other sfos packages | 15:15 |
| Thaodan | from packaging point of view the complexity has grown in some areas like python the more we can focus on the Sailfish OS specific parts the better. | 15:19 |
| mal | to me python is a mess now, so many dependencies everywhere | 15:20 |
| Thaodan | yeah.. the deeper you look the more there are | 15:24 |
| Thaodan | BUT with newer python packaging creating packaging for new python modules is very easy | 15:25 |
| Thaodan | spec files can be even generate from pypi | 15:26 |
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