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| poetaster | @piggz flashed volla os on the GS5 and then SFOS. there is a mount point missing. re-flash with encryption, the partition (/home) is there but the main System data partition has only 55 MB free. | 11:12 |
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| poetaster | same thing reported in the forum: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/the-volla-22-gigaset-gs5-thread/12939/92?u=poetaster | 11:13 |
| poetaster | hmmm. what's this 4429185024 Nov 20 12:06 mrdump_preallocated | 11:18 |
| rubdos[m] | Say there's a commercial Android app that I use for charging my car, and it crashes at a certain point when trying to charge, how do I go about debugging it? | 14:09 |
| rubdos[m] | App is Bonnet, and it crashes when I tap the charger that I want to start. | 14:10 |
| rubdos[m] | It worked before quite well. | 14:10 |
| rubdos[m] | Now I had to use Shell recharge, and that'll cost me the full 2.80€ more! | 14:10 |
| rubdos[m] | Ok wow, at home on WiFi it works | 14:12 |
| rubdos[m] | 🙃 | 14:12 |
| attah | Well, look up how to run the logcat command for the android container, and see what it says when it crashes | 14:16 |
| rubdos[m] | 👍️ | 14:17 |
| rubdos[m] | thanks | 14:17 |
| attah | Also make sure to complain to the provider that apps are stupid for when web pages would have been enough | 14:17 |
| rubdos[m] | At this point, I fail to see the difference between an Android app and a web page. They're both blobs that you put into a container and execute in some isolated environment :| | 14:24 |
| rubdos[m] | Just happens that one runs on JVM and the other on a Javascript engine. | 14:24 |
| attah | but one is cross-platform, the other isn't | 14:25 |
| mal | trying to force apps is odd sometimes, for example my bank doesn't require app but if you have it installed then monthly fee is lower so I have it installed but never use it which doesn't really make any sense | 14:26 |
| attah | gross | 14:27 |
| mal | and for me using app would be more complicated since I export data from accounts regularly to keep statistics how I use money on my computer so with app I would have to copy the data one more time if there even is easy way to export that in the app | 14:29 |
| poetaster | piggz, this is weird. If you DON'T use home encryption. No home partition is created on the GS5. | 16:33 |
| poetaster | piggz[m], it's a pita since I don't want crypto on the home partition (what I want encrypted, I encrypt with gnupg). | 16:33 |
| piggz[m] | hmmm, thats odd, i would have thought it would have | 16:39 |
| piggz[m] | rinigus ^^ | 16:40 |
| rinigus | poetaster: that's because you don't have LVM either. as you use loopback device on / partition, there is no need to make it if there is nothing to encrypt. cc: piggz | 16:41 |
| piggz_ | rinigus: ah, so if incyrption isnt chosen, it doesnt create a loopback mount with just a regular filesystem? | 16:42 |
| poetaster | rinigus, but that doesn't make sense as a work flow. Then I'd rather not have encryption, or deal with it myself aftwords (ie. build my own luks volume) this way, I'm forced to use a home crypt not kowing anything about it. | 16:43 |
| poetaster | and you can't touch android user data without losing home. | 16:43 |
| rinigus | piggz_: yes. creation of loopback adds limits and partitions your storage. that way nobody is gonna complain regarding "why my root is so small, what have you done to me" | 16:44 |
| poetaster | piggz, on the bright side, since reflashing vollaos, the SIM issue is gone. | 16:44 |
| piggz_ | rinigus: however, in this case its prefereble, because / in inside the super partition (like lvm but not) ... and i put the home loopback on /data | 16:45 |
| poetaster | rinigus, in this you winde up with ONLY an almost full 8GB partition and the rest of your internal space is not used. | 16:46 |
| rinigus | poetaster: I don't follow. what is "forced to use home crypt ..."? source is out there :) | 16:46 |
| piggz_ | poetaster: solution, just say yes to encrypted home :) | 16:46 |
| poetaster | piggz_, yeah, I did that. But then couldn't use the system since / was full. wiped android user data, and had to start over ;-( | 16:46 |
| poetaster | rinigus, piggz_ it's just luks, right? | 16:47 |
| piggz_ | why was / full? i made it bigger than normal | 16:47 |
| piggz_ | yes, luks encryption | 16:47 |
| poetaster | piggz_, it's your image! or it was vollaOS ? | 16:47 |
| piggz_ | its my partition layout | 16:47 |
| rinigus | piggz_: that's rather odd setup (data somewhere else)... but if you say so and its better to keep loopback device then it has to be introduced somehow | 16:48 |
| poetaster | hmm. probably because /home was in / and all kinds of stuff got written to it. | 16:48 |
| rinigus | poetaster: yes, it is luks. | 16:48 |
| piggz_ | poetaster: ah, / fulled up when you didnt have encrypted home | 16:49 |
| poetaster | piggz, maybe a note from you on the forum 1. format user data first, 2. encrypt home. | 16:49 |
| piggz_ | rinigus: ill try and add an option to the config to force a loopback mount | 16:49 |
| poetaster | rinigus, I meant 'forced' since I was assuming piggz installer worked as always (on the GS290, Volla) where you could skip the crypto. Had I known, I wouldn't have had to do this N time.s | 16:51 |
| poetaster | piggz_, thanks for the note! | 16:53 |
| poetaster | I'm just a bit tired of setting up phones cause I smashed :) | 16:54 |
| poetaster | smashed a phone unintentionally, that is. but I also appear to be smashed. good night! | 21:57 |
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