| dcaliste | Hello pvuorela, I'm late this morning and still need to go for shopping. Would you mind if we move the meeting to 7.30 UTC ? Thank you. | 06:39 |
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| Thaodan | useretail: that's a pretty blunt statement to assume such a thing | 06:45 |
| dcaliste | Hello pvuorela, sorry for the additional delay… | 07:44 |
| pvuorela | dcaliste: hi, no problem. | 07:45 |
| dcaliste | Thank you for your remarks on the calendar design. I think I'll address them during the week. | 07:46 |
| pvuorela | thanks. sounded good to you? | 07:46 |
| dcaliste | Having some "header" to transition between the date picker and the event list is a good idea. I've been using the "new" design for some weeks now, and I also fell that the transition between the two is too abrupt in a way. | 07:47 |
| dcaliste | About left aligning the tab icons to avoid them moving, yes I'm ok with it. Particularly, I was thinking during my holydays about adding in the future a fourth tab with a search view. | 07:48 |
| dcaliste | While strictly speaking not giving more space with left alignment, it may feel like being less crowdy if it's not moving all the time between a small space (portrait) and a large one (landscape). | 07:50 |
| dcaliste | About the tablet design, the guidance you provide will help to get something, definitely. Thanks. | 07:51 |
| pvuorela | for the separation header not fully sure myself atm. maybe something small could be ok, though on jolla c type of devices it's away from event list space. on tablet should avoid too much redundancy, though the big number label is already some sort of a header. | 07:56 |
| pvuorela | on day view landscape the mode buttons on the right side could give some chance of later moving e.g. all day events to the top left, more space for scrollable area. | 07:57 |
| dcaliste | What do you mean the "mode button" on the right side in landscape ? I didn't notice this in the remarks. Aren't they supposed to be left aligned ? | 08:04 |
| pvuorela | dcaliste: so mode buttons in same place between the different modes. on portrait moved a bit more left, with horizontal page margin. on landscape they should be where the month view has them now. | 08:11 |
| dcaliste | Ah, I got it. Thank you for the precision, I didn't fully got the "stay in place", I was thinking left align with horizontalPageMargin in the page. | 08:12 |
| dcaliste | Indeed, I see how it could be possible to move the all day part on the left hand side part in landscape. It definitely make sense to get more scrolling estate. | 08:13 |
| pvuorela | one detail that might worry me a bit is whether the space in landscape is sufficient for the top right label on each mode. especially after adding more modes. | 08:14 |
| dcaliste | On Jolla C kind of screen ratio it may be crowdy indeed… | 08:14 |
| pvuorela | one option could be moving the modes to top right on landscape. month view could move the month name label below them. slightly bigger adjustment, though. | 08:16 |
| pvuorela | or then day view landscape having the date string on the side. the space is probably enough for the weekday name. | 08:18 |
| dcaliste | In various languages, I don't kown how much large can the month names become (for month view) compared to week day names (for day view). And this is without speaking about using large font sizes… | 08:21 |
| dcaliste | Maybe adding a fourth mode is not a good idea, but I thought it avoid like that to add yet another entry in the pulley menu and I make more sense to have a dedicated view for a search layout with keyboard visible... | 08:21 |
| dcaliste | s/I make/it makes/ | 08:21 |
| pvuorela | i could mention these details again to martin too. | 08:23 |
| pvuorela | one more thing, the mode buttons on top on landscape can easily trigger the pulldown menu animating briefly down and back. | 08:24 |
| dcaliste | Not that I'm going to add it immediately, I would prefer to finish this redesign first and then add the week view, but maybe it's better to keep it in mind to get the right choices. | 08:25 |
| pvuorela | perhaps the mode button container as mousearea could filter out such | 08:25 |
| dcaliste | Ah, you mean as a spurious trigger of the menu ? | 08:26 |
| pvuorela | yea, tapping near the top shows this hint for the menu | 08:26 |
| pvuorela | missing a mode button just a bit can happen easily | 08:27 |
| dcaliste | With the current implementation, as you already reported, I should expand the mouse area so the tap detection is not restricted to the icon itself, but also include its margins. This may help. | 08:28 |
| dcaliste | Though, I cannot get the behaviour you're experiencing, even tapping widely here and there, the pulley is not hinting anything… | 08:29 |
| pvuorela | hm, happens only in landscape month view, not day view. | 08:29 |
| pvuorela | and something else going on too, hm. | 08:31 |
| pvuorela | i mean, no it doesn't to that anymore. | 08:31 |
| dcaliste | Mmh , strange, I cannot reproduce it neither in landscape. I see what you mean with the pulley hint, but I cannot observe it. | 08:31 |
| dcaliste | Ah ok. | 08:31 |
| pvuorela | and now getting it again after fiddling around a bit | 08:32 |
| dcaliste | Ok, so let's rediscuss this next week after I get a new implementation taking into account the latest remarks on design (in place modes in landscape, tablet redesign and minor adjustments).. | 08:44 |
| pvuorela | dcaliste: alright. thanks. | 08:44 |
| dcaliste | Maybe one moment, some other sailors may approve (or not) https://github.com/sailfishos/mkcal/pull/30 and friends ? | 08:45 |
| pvuorela | heh. i'll need to ping david again on my eas changes. about time we get those in. | 08:46 |
| pvuorela | though now there's a conflict, it seems. | 08:47 |
| dcaliste | Ah indeed, I didn't notice. It's in the part to get the alarm removed or added on notebook visibility change. I'll solve it today. | 08:51 |
| useretail | x2s, a child entered wrong pin code more than it was allowed and the phone was permanently locked. normally it is resolved by entering recovery mode and unlocking it with correct pin | 10:55 |
| x2s | Please add this to the bug report | 10:56 |
| useretail | but recovery mode doesn't work, i can't fix my phone. so what i have to do? reflash and lose all my data? | 10:57 |
| useretail | i guess guys @ jolla are pretty smart enough to figure this out | 10:57 |
| useretail | since it wasn't fixed in latest release, i assume they don't care | 10:58 |
| useretail | that my opinion | 10:58 |
| useretail | it's not a bug report, it's just a thread in the forum | 10:59 |
| x2s | you can contact them directly here: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new | 11:00 |
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