Thursday, 2021-05-20

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riniguspiggz: lots of discussion regarding tbuilder in -meeting. re parallel builds on CI: as Thaodan pointed out, it requires some supervisor to handle dependencies. you would also need to decide if the builds are conservative (as tbuilder does now) or opportunistic (as OBS does). namely, link from SPEC -> provided symbols is not fully known until you build the package. so, you could hope that started builds don't interfere and09:23
rinigusrebuild later if they do (OBS way) or do one in a time and reduce interference (tbuilder). But even in tbuilder way you have to sometimes rebuild packages multiple times09:23
riniguspiggz: I think publishing repos is not a problem. https://sailfishos-sony-tama.s3-website.pl-waw.scw.cloud/ is generated using https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/tbuilder-project/blob/hybris-10/publish.sh09:23
rinigusand can support multiple SFOS versions easily.09:24
rinigusproblem is how to get users to add https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/droid-config-sony-tama-pie/blob/hybris-10/sparse/usr/share/ssu/repos.d/20-tama.ini09:24
rinigusas that cloud service provides s3->static web interface out of the box and I don't think we will hit usage that we would need to pay for, publishing is simple09:25
piggzrinigus: where is that hosting?09:25
piggzamazon?09:26
rinigusbut probably, some signing of RPMs or repos has to be setup. and issue is with how users can add/remove those repos as they do with storeman09:26
riniguspiggz: https://www.scaleway.com/en/09:26
rinigusprices are on the bottom of the page, via link09:26
rinigussorry, go to object storage and then pricing09:28
riniguspiggz:09:28
piggzi see, 75gb free, not too bad09:29
rinigus75gb for storage and for data out in a month09:30
piggzyup09:31
piggzyeah, i cant fault that as an option .... lbt says he is still discussing the future of obs09:32
riniguspiggz: yes, I saw that. let's see what will come out of it09:33
lbtYes we are. Nothing official yet though.09:33
mighty17Mister_Magister hello again! Any updates on minitube (I'm willing to test if they aren't published) coz my device kinda lags video playback (the reason is another story)10:38
Mister_Magisteri'm not developing minitube10:38
Mister_Magisterbut i will assume you mean microtube anyway10:39
mighty1710:39
mighty17Reason being my device is omap and uses ducati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Codec_Engine) the ducati firmware doesn't get loaded acc to journalctl10:39
Mister_Magisterwell there's one guy on my group who has rpm and its half working and i don't have the aarch64 device so i guess you gotta wait for jolla to stabilise aarch64? if you join tg group you can access rpm10:39
mighty17Mine is armv7 :D and yes I mean microtube extremely sorry10:40
Mister_Magisterwhat updates do you want then10:41
Mister_Magisterkinda confused ngl10:41
Mister_Magisteri mean, about moving sfos channels… we don't really HAVE to move10:43
Mister_Magisterjust because there's some drama doesn't mean we have to float withi t10:44
Nico-old-defunctI mean, yes, but it seems like ALL the freenode staff moved10:44
Mister_Magisterstaff sure10:46
Mister_Magisterdoesn't mean people have to follow10:46
Mister_Magisterand they probably won't10:46
mighty17<Mister_Magister "what updates do you want then"> u know resolution/speed :P10:48
Mister_Magisterthere won't be any speed increase10:48
Mister_Magisterand stabilising my gstreamer player is difficult10:49
Mister_Magisterand i'm also waiting for jolla's lawyers about the DASH decision10:49
Mister_Magisterso ask jolla10:49
Mister_Magisterbecause if jolla decides that using dash in gstreamer is legal after all cause literally everyone's doing it and they pay nothing then i won't even have to use my player10:50
Mister_Magisteri'll just use qtmultimedia as i am now10:50
Mister_Magisterso i don't want to do meaningless work10:50
mighty17oh okay understandable10:50
mighty17i will try fixing the ducati for my device10:50
Mister_Magistermighty17: how would dash help you anyway10:51
Nico-old-defunctMister_Magister: A lot of people and communities already moved or are in the process of migrating. At least the onces I take part in.10:51
Mister_Magisteryou want playback 144p or something10:51
Mister_MagisterNico-old-defunct: and whole lot other are not moving10:51
Mister_Magisterfreenode is built on drama why move now10:51
mighty17yeah lmao 360p is fine for 600x1024 device xD10:51
Mister_Magister360p is working fine10:51
mighty17we can change resolution?10:52
Nico-old-defunctWhat communities are not moving for example?10:52
Mister_Magisterye10:52
Mister_Magisterfrom 720p to 360p10:52
mighty17:010:52
Mister_MagisterNico-old-defunct: most of them are in discussion currently10:52
mighty17is it not available in landscape mode?10:52
Mister_Magisternope10:52
Nico-old-defunctI guess10:52
Mister_Magisterits in pulldown in portrtait10:52
mighty17makes sense i couldnt get it, thanks :D10:53
Mister_MagisterNico-old-defunct: many channels make their copies on libera etc but they aren't cancelling freenode yet either10:56
Mister_MagisterNico-old-defunct: but honestly drama on freenode was here since always why move now? Ohno hostile party has my data :< boohoo its not like entire freenode data is public anyway. As long as servers are running there will be no change felt on this channel11:06
Mister_Magisterthis entire drama changes nothing11:07
Mister_Magistermighty17: funniest part is that i'm techincally breaking the patent rn xd11:20
mighty17legalities are confusing11:21
Mister_Magistermighty17: don't even start…11:22
mighty17starts with why no qt6 in sfos xD11:23
Mister_Magisterohboy11:23
mighty17lmao11:23
mighty17Mister_Magister: can i put 360p as default for all vids?11:24
Mister_Magisterif you switch11:24
Mister_Magisterits default11:24
mighty17oh thats cool awesome!11:24
Mister_Magistermighty17: we are all about usability here11:25
mighty17laughs in lack of apps11:25
Mister_Magisterwdym11:25
Mister_Magisterwhat app do you lack11:25
mighty17a good browser :D11:25
mighty17spotify (i am no rich boi to get premium just for sfos)11:25
Mister_Magisterstock one is good11:26
Mister_Magisterscrew spotify11:26
Mister_Magisteruse nextcloud + musikilo11:26
mighty17<Mister_Magister "stock one is good"> `The native browser does not work in the correct orientation. The touchscreen and the display are perpendicular to each other in the browser.`11:26
mighty17fun aint it?11:26
Mister_Magisterthats your port problem not stock browser11:27
Mister_Magisterwith last gecko updates stock browser is much faster11:28
Mister_Magisteryou can almost use it on snapdragon 84511:28
mighty17sfos4? ah i need to port patterns to the new stuff11:28
Mister_Magistersfos 3.4 even11:28
Mister_Magister3.3 even11:28
mighty17<Mister_Magister "you can almost use it on snapdra"> laughs in omap4430 (dual core 1ghz cortex a9)11:28
Mister_Magistermy weakest phone is 4x1.211:28
mighty17webcat is doing fine for now11:28
Mister_Magisterjesus why are you doing that to yourself11:29
Mister_Magisterpoor boy11:29
mighty17<Mister_Magister "my weakest phone is 4x1.2"> technically omap4430 is quad core11:29
Mister_Magisterthen why did u say 2 cores11:29
mighty17well its complicated11:30
mighty172x cortex a9 for cpu11:31
mighty17and 2x cortex m3 for ducati11:31
Mister_Magisterhuh11:31
Mister_Magistermighty17: no wait i got weaker phoen but stronger phone11:31
Mister_Magisteri have one phone with s4pro11:31
Mister_Magisterits Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait 30011:32
Mister_Magisterwhich is stronger than snap40011:33
Mister_Magisterwhich is 4 core 1.211:33
mighty17<Mister_Magister "i have one phone with s4pro"> damn thats weaker than omap4 ig (do u hv benchmark score)11:33
mighty17oh nvm s4 not s4prop11:34
mighty17 * oh nvm s4 not s4pro11:34
Mister_Magisterim talking about s4pro11:34
mighty17<Mister_Magister "huh"> `The 4th generation OMAPs, OMAP 4430 (used on Google Glass[20]), 4460 (formerly named 4440),[21] and 4470 all use a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU, with two ARM Cortex-M3 cores, as part of the "Ducati" sub-system,[22] for off-loading low-level tasks`11:34
mighty17<Mister_Magister "im talking about s4pro"> that isnt weaker lmao11:34
Mister_Magisteri know11:36
Mister_Magisterbut also has 2 cores11:36
mighty17so i need that Ducati subsystem to get good performance11:36
Mister_Magisterxd11:36
mighty171.7Ghz go brrrr11:36
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kirvesAxeAre there plans to move this channel to libera? https://www.kline.sh/13:49
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malkirvesAxe: there was talk about that in sailfish community meeting yesterday14:19
malno decisions yet14:19
pketo* meeting this morning ;)14:28
malah, true, it was indeed today, forgot what day it is :D14:30
abransonlong day...14:31
pketofor a moment I thought that I have completely lost track of time :)14:31
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kirvesAxe:D15:22
poetasterpiggz: Your advanced camera doesn't support doing stop motion still capture, does it?19:57
piggzpoetaster: no, but wouldnt be a bad feature to add20:04
poetasterit's be great, but I'm just being lazy ;)20:14
poetasterpiggz: I might build a simple app since a primitive form (I'd like to do black and white film strips) is possible in QML.20:15
poetasterNot much 'programming' per se.20:16
piggzpoetaster: so, you'd want to say, take a pic every x seconds?20:16
poetasterpiggz; yeah. perhaps with a 'container' folder.20:17
poetasterpiggz: but that's gravey.20:17
piggzsure, and maybe a frame number added the the filename20:17
piggzpoetaster: could you file an issue so i dont forget20:18
poetasterpiggz: will do.20:18
poetasterpiggz: err. github?20:19
piggzyeah /piggz20:19
poetasteronit.20:19
poetasterI'm /poetaster ... obviousrly.20:20
attahsigning irc messages sounds lie something an impostor would do :)20:21
poetasterI'm a clearname, that's me kind of guy.20:22
poetasterpiggz: submitted.20:23
piggzbtw .. be sure to register your nicks on orc.oftc.net20:25
poetasterok, that direction too. and I'm about to launch a dedicated server for sfos :)20:26
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