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| gmc | so, what are app developers doing re testing? is there something to do end-to-end testing of sailfish apps? | 11:55 |
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| ViGe | gmc: Have you already through the stuff that was mentioned during the meeting on August 21st? https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-08-21-10.00.html | 11:59 |
| ViGe | already read through | 11:59 |
| gmc | ViGe: i haven't actually, thanks! | 14:39 |
| Tekk_ | I was just reminded of this since the new phone came today: is there a way to migrate contact sources? | 18:30 |
| Tekk_ | Like if I have contacts backed up via Google, can I tell Sailfish somehow to start backing them up into Nextcloud | 18:30 |
| Nico[m] | Restore the backup on the new device? | 18:30 |
| Nico[m] | Or use cloud contacts :D | 18:31 |
| Tekk_ | I'm saying with cloud contact providers :D | 18:31 |
| Nico[m] | I think that part is difficult, since you need to remove the connection to the old cloud provider... | 18:31 |
| Tekk_ | That's what I'd like to do. | 18:31 |
| Nico[m] | I did it once and it was painful | 18:32 |
| Tekk_ | When I first set up nextcloud I thought I could set up both providers, wait for the contacts to sync to nextcloud, then remove Google | 18:32 |
| Nico[m] | It is probably easier to just import the contacts from google to nextcloud | 18:32 |
| Tekk_ | but the contacts never synced to Nextcloud and removing Google remvoved the contacts. | 18:32 |
| Nico[m] | Yeah, that is somewhat expected behaviour to prevent duplicating contacts | 18:32 |
| Tekk_ | Oh wait, I'm seeing my contacts in nextcloud. I think I already did it. | 18:35 |
| Nico[m] | :D | 18:35 |
| Tekk_ | So either I'm impatient or the nextcloud support in SF doesn't like me. | 18:35 |
| Tekk_ | Hmmm | 18:36 |
| Nico[m] | It was a bit finnicky for me at first | 18:36 |
| Tekk_ | The People import contacts screen doesn't list nextcloud | 18:36 |
| Tekk_ | Only Google and "without services" | 18:36 |
| Nico[m] | I think just adding the nextcloud account and enabling contacts should do | 18:36 |
| Tekk_ | Ah yeah, it was just taking its time. | 18:37 |
| Tekk_ | It's all good now. | 18:37 |
| Tekk_ | Only thing I'm annoyed about now is that *apparently* sailfish doesn't default to saving photos on the SD card if it's available | 18:38 |
| Tekk_ | Meaning that I lost all my pictures when my Xperia X died | 18:38 |
| Nico[m] | Mhm, that sucks. | 18:39 |
| Tekk_ | Anyway, really glad the phone came today. I'm actually getting to sneak in something vaguely sailfish related at work next week :) | 18:39 |
| Nico[m] | Sounds interesting! Any details you want to share? | 18:44 |
| Tekk_ | It's nothing too special. Next week is my company's twice-a-year hackathon (though spring got skipped this year iirc) | 18:45 |
| Tekk_ | I'm trying to put together a pagerduty client in Python that I could then move to sailfish, that way I don't need to keep an android phone for when I'm on call | 18:46 |
| Nico[m] | Sounds like fun! :D | 18:46 |
| Tekk_ | Also: it seems like at some point the fallback for email to just manually input the servers was removed. Any way around that? | 18:46 |
| Tekk_ | My email servers don't match the domain in my email address so that keeps failing. | 18:46 |
| Nico[m] | There should be advanced settings in the pully | 18:47 |
| Nico[m] | You can enter your server addresses there | 18:47 |
| Tekk_ | Ah yeah, I missed the "manual setup" button at the bottom. It'd be nice if it automatically offered that when it failed to log in | 18:47 |
| Tekk_ | But oh well | 18:47 |
| Nico[m] | Open a bug report in the forum :3 | 18:47 |
| Tekk_ | Ah no, seems like it's timing out regardless | 18:52 |
| Tekk_ | Which is kinda weird.. | 18:52 |
| Tekk_ | Before I thought it was just timing out because it was trying to use the wrong domain. | 18:52 |
| Nico[m] | Maybe your mail server is down? | 19:00 |
| Tekk_ | Works fine on my laptop. That's something I can track down later. | 19:00 |
| Tekk_ | Now I've got another one. All sorts of fun stuff since I haven't set up a sailfish phone since....2018 I think. | 19:00 |
| Nico[m] | :D | 19:01 |
| Tekk_ | What are people using for their android app notifications these days? The old one in openrepos from 2019 seems to be broken now. | 19:01 |
| Tekk_ | Fails due to a lack of cutes-js. | 19:01 |
| Nico[m] | I don't use android notifications, but I think they work out of the box? | 19:01 |
| Tekk_ | Certainly not for Discord. | 19:01 |
| Nico[m] | Well, don't use discord! Or use it via my matrix client, that is horribly incomplete! :D | 19:02 |
| Tekk_ | Oh if I could ditch discord I'd *love* to, but everyone uses it :( | 19:02 |
| Tekk_ | I dislike matrix for other reasons and am *greatly* annoyed that there are no omemo-capable xmpp clients on Sailfish. That's perhaps a thing to play with another time. Feels kinda redundant to make a sailfish xmpp client when it's embedded in messages though. | 19:03 |
| Nico[m] | I said the same about telegram, steam chat, whatsapp, etc. Nowadays I just bridge it all to my matrix server :3 | 19:03 |
| Nico[m] | I did have a lot of trouble with xmpp, so I don't like using it :3 | 19:04 |
| Tekk_ | matrix has consistently been awful for me. | 19:07 |
| Tekk_ | xmpp's been fine. | 19:07 |
| Nico[m] | Well, if it works for you :D | 19:12 |
| Tekk_ | Yeah, I had a whole thing on it. I know it's got some really major design flaws (matrix), there was some UI thing that caused problems too, though. | 19:15 |
| Nico[m] | Dunno about those design flaws. Sure, there are some parts that are not very polished, but every protocol has those and I'm working on fixing them one by one :3 | 19:16 |
| Tekk_ | The biggest design flaw I know of is that you can't join a large group chat if you're on a small matrix instance (supposedly) | 19:17 |
| Tekk_ | Which seems pretty fundamental to the protocol. | 19:18 |
| Nico[m] | Dendrite pretty much fixed that | 19:18 |
| Nico[m] | And conduit is even faster | 19:18 |
| Tekk_ | Oh good | 19:18 |
| Nico[m] | The last major blocker is syncing the membership over federation and making Dendrite and Conduit stable for all federation stuff | 19:19 |
| Nico[m] | But my dendrite, that is in all large rooms, uses 1% CPU and less than 200mb RAM | 19:19 |
| Tekk_ | Oh. Looks like some notifications are getting through. | 19:19 |
| Nico[m] | (joining a large room the first time still takes a bit because it sends all membership events at once, but that will be fixed at some point and is not that bad usually) | 19:20 |
| Tekk_ | Mhm | 19:20 |
| Nico[m] | (And mostly synapses fault) | 19:20 |
| Tekk_ | Reboot fixed the email problem | 19:24 |
| Tekk_ | Yeah. Seems like some android notifications get through bit others (discord) do not. Weird. | 19:58 |
| Tekk_ | ..... | 19:58 |
| Tekk_ | nevermind | 19:58 |
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