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| avemestr | Am I correct in stating, that Xperia 10 II is not supported at the moment, Xperia 10 is but one might receive a version with Android 10 preloaded and therefore not easily replaced with SailfishOS, so the safest bet is the 2+ year old XA2 devices? | 08:45 |
| attah | avemestr: 10 II is indeed not supported. But there is no meaningful spec difference in the regular 10 and XA2, so not sure why you felt it necessary to call only XA2 old. | 09:10 |
| attah | XA2 vs 10 should just be a form factor decision... | 09:11 |
| avemestr | XA2 is better than 10 in some ways, eg. battery. | 09:12 |
| attah | ...which is very much related to the form factor | 09:15 |
| attah | but it sounded to me like you were trying to say the XA2 is older and somehow a worse choice because of that | 09:16 |
| avemestr | I'm just considering waiting for 10 II to be officially supported. | 09:17 |
| avemestr | 10 II improves battery capacity significantly over 10, yet maintains virtually the same form factor. | 09:17 |
| attah | that would be nice, but currently there are no indications to what will be the next device | 09:18 |
| attah | despite the similar name, it is as different as any other model | 09:18 |
| avemestr | Yep, new chipset, new cpu, new gpu. | 09:38 |
| avemestr | Do you think Jolla is considering supporting other devices instead of 10 II? | 09:39 |
| attah | Considering... sure, anything else would be odd. | 09:40 |
| attah | It may very well be the first choice still, we simply don't know | 09:40 |
| avemestr | Would be nice with some announcement from Jolla. | 09:43 |
| attah | can only agree with that... but i guess they just haven't had the time to fully bring up another device to the standards required | 09:44 |
| avemestr | Where I live the XA2 costs 75% of what the 10 II costs... Would be sad to purchase an XA2 today and get an announcement from Jolla in 2 weeks that they now support 10 II :-) | 09:45 |
| avemestr | Yeah, there's also the Android 9 to Android 10 issue they have to sort out (besides the chips, cameras, etc). | 09:45 |
| attah | Pretty sure announcements/leaks would give more than 2 weeks notice until it is available... at least it has been that way so far | 09:47 |
| attah | Like at least a SFOS release cycle until it materializes | 09:47 |
| odwyerda | Hi, my update to 3.4.0.22 has gone quite badly and I fear my phone is bricked. | 11:56 |
| odwyerda | XA2 plus reported a failed update then after reboot it just boots into a blank screen. The worst part is I cannot seem to get in with SSH either to do anything (no USB device found when plugged into laptop && no wifi connected) | 11:57 |
| odwyerda | Maybe this is the place for some advice ? | 11:58 |
| avemestr | odwyerda: Can't help you, but hang around for a while and others might be able to. | 11:59 |
| odwyerda | I shall | 12:00 |
| avemestr | It's just on IRC some people show up, don't get a response within a minute and then signs off ;-) | 12:00 |
| odwyerda | I am patient, ive use IRC before. I may also be elsewhere, ive a puppy jumping around beside me | 12:03 |
| odwyerda | The USB device is found by my laptop: "dmesg" shows XA2 plus on usb 1-2 .. still cant access it yet | 12:14 |
| odwyerda | However I think this error is bad : usb 1-1: can't set config #1, error -71 | 12:16 |
| x2s | well, there should be a way to get the device into the boot loader and reflash it over usb. Your data will probably lost | 12:36 |
| odwyerda | I backed it up.. | 12:36 |
| odwyerda | I still cant get into the phone. When I plug it into my laptop I get an empty file in /dev/bsg/0:0:0:0 | 12:37 |
| odwyerda | if you have a guide somewhere I could follow (I have a windows partition also so I can use that) | 12:37 |
| x2s | https://droidrecovery.com/sony-xperia-xa2-recovery-mode/ maybe the first one could work | 12:38 |
| x2s | oh, wait, flash mode is what you want. | 12:38 |
| x2s | So volume up, not down | 12:38 |
| odwyerda | cool let me see. | 12:41 |
| odwyerda | hmm.. OK neither work. If I do Volumn done I get blank screen + green led. If I do flash mode I get black screen + blue led... I will try again | 12:44 |
| odwyerda | nope... no luck... hmm | 12:50 |
| ol | odwyerda (IRC): Make sure that your phone is connected to USB2 port of your PC. There were some issues with flashing through USB3 port. | 13:15 |
| odwyerda | I will log off for 10 min I need to change room, I will try again | 13:29 |
| odwyerda | Hi so I changed over to windows. I have tried both USB ports, when I try to enable flash mode windows pop up appears "setting up android " device | 13:42 |
| odwyerda | but only the LED responds on the phone itsefl | 13:42 |
| mal | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002996893-Xperia-devices-How-to-use-the-Recovery-Mode | 13:42 |
| odwyerda | @mal thank you | 13:42 |
| mal | you can use that recovery to backup things, or even try to fix the installation | 13:42 |
| odwyerda | I think I will open a beer for this... | 13:43 |
| netvor | hi, w/ xperia xa2 .. I just updated to -- i think 3.4.0 -- as offered by update manager and the updated failed. after reboot all i have is black screen; power button only starts the backlight | 13:49 |
| netvor | that said, i can ssh in as nemo | 13:49 |
| odwyerda | I have a quiestion | 13:50 |
| odwyerda | so what file should I flahs, the jolla store has 3.3.0.16-h4413-0.0.7.21 | 13:50 |
| netvor | /etc/os-release already shows PRETTY_NAME="Sailfish OS 3.4.0.22 (Pallas-Yllästunturi)" | 13:50 |
| odwyerda | hmm fasboot reports < waiting for any device > | 14:01 |
| odwyerda | nvm... driver problem fixed it... onto the next step | 14:07 |
| thigg[m] | <netvor "/etc/os-release already shows PR"> maybe this helps you? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xa2-bricked-with-unsuccessful-update-to-3-4-0-22/2345/12 | 14:08 |
| netvor | thigg[m]: thanks. i also found somethin on zendesk https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005795474 | 14:10 |
| netvor | thing is, i can ssh as nemo but i don't have the devel-su password | 14:11 |
| netvor | i used to read that off the UI when i needed it but now that ui is broken.. | 14:11 |
| thigg[m] | I guess that leaves reflashing as the only option | 14:11 |
| thigg[m] | out of lazyness i put my devel-su pw into my password manager so i can copy it ;) | 14:12 |
| netvor | well but thinking aloud .. if ui can display the develsu password in plain, maybe one could dig it out from somewhere? | 14:12 |
| thigg[m] | i guess you can theoretically if you know your lockcode | 14:13 |
| netvor | on second thought, reflashing will be probably better given that via ssh i can backup $HOME now (and also i have most stuff in clouds) | 14:15 |
| thigg[m] | netvor: i guess youre saving yourself a lot of trouble this way | 14:17 |
| thigg[m] | next time create the backup first ;) | 14:18 |
| netvor | yeah, :) i got that lesson w/ my laptop this year so i set up borg backup everywhere EXCEPT my SFOS :) | 14:19 |
| netvor | given that all borg needs is ssh, should be a piece of cake to set up | 14:19 |
| mal | you can try that update from recovery and see if it finishes | 14:20 |
| mal | in theory at least | 14:20 |
| mal | of course doing it via ssh is better if possible | 14:20 |
| thigg[m] | you remind me of something there, updates to libpam nearly locked me out recently i should run borg to backup configs again as well... | 14:20 |
| thigg[m] | I lost my phone last year, now its fully synced to my nextcloud... could throw it into a lake any time now ;) | 14:20 |
| mal | netvor: did you manage to try update via ssh? | 14:21 |
| netvor | mal: well i don't have the devel-su password so not sure if there's point in trying ... not that i know how would i go about that | 14:22 |
| odwyerda | hmm my recovery is not going OK. I finished 2.1 from (https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002996893-Xperia-devices-How-to-use-the-Recovery-Mode) | 14:22 |
| mal | netvor: devel-su should use the same password you use for nemo ssh, or are you connecting with some ssh key | 14:22 |
| netvor | i'm using key | 14:22 |
| odwyerda | * sorry I wanted to tpye a big message and not lots of smaller ones which break up your conversation. | 14:23 |
| mal | netvor: hmm, you can set password via recovery | 14:23 |
| netvor | hmmm ... maybe i can give it a shot | 14:23 |
| netvor | after rsync finishes | 14:23 |
| mal | netvor: so basic way to set password from recovery is to boot to recovery using instructions in zendesk, then selecting shell and from shell "chroot /rootfs" (if I remember the path correctly) and then "passwd nemo" | 14:25 |
| odwyerda | hmm my recovery is not going OK. I finished 2.1 from (https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002996893-Xperia-devices-How-to-use-the-Recovery-Mode) I used the available .zip file 3.3.0.16 that is inthe jolla store for me (Since my upgrade to 3.4 failed I wonder if this is correct..) It completes it and reboots the phone, however I do not | 14:27 |
| odwyerda | get the "RECOVERY: Connect USB cable and open telnet to address 10.42.66.66"But OK I will try to 2.2. If I boot again the phone to my laptop I see "SMS/MMS" in "Other devices", "RNDIS"...Stuck... | 14:27 |
| odwyerda | sorry to correct above I do not see "RNDIS" as described in section 2.2 | 14:28 |
| netvor | so i'm trying to get to the recovery mode. | 14:47 |
| netvor | i run `sudo fastboot boot hybris-recovery.img` and Downloading boot.img takes ages (few minutes so far) | 14:48 |
| netvor | i wonder if that's expected | 14:49 |
| mal | it should be very quick | 15:01 |
| mal | try another usb port on your computer | 15:02 |
| netvor | i'm trying to figure out if i have the right image | 15:09 |
| netvor | even eg. fastboot getvar product takes ages ... | 15:41 |
| netvor | trying different cable | 15:42 |
| mal | usb3 ports are sometimes causing issues with fastboot | 15:42 |
| netvor | tried 2 different ones .. gonna try another laptop | 15:44 |
| netvor | ok so on another box (w/ debian, this is fedora) it works fine; it's H3113 | 15:53 |
| netvor | ok so went with flashing ... no time to play the devel-su game ... :( | 16:01 |
| netvor | so thanks mal & thigg[m] ; /me is now setting up fresh flashed sfos | 16:08 |
| mal | netvor: so you didn't try to fix the installation? | 16:54 |
| netvor | no didn't have time .. needed to have phone running :/ | 16:55 |
| mal | ok, it's not always very difficult to fix those | 16:58 |
| netvor | well next time i try updating maybe i'll get another chance :) | 16:59 |
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