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| attah | The only thing i miss about TJC: downvoting people that are overly negative for no reason. | 16:59 |
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| *** SpeedEvil is now known as Guest22568 | 18:00 | |
| Kabouik | Assuming you are referring to the guy who decidedto hate me (or referring to me?) | 18:45 |
| Kabouik | I don't understand what is the problem. He keeps claiming I said something I didn't say. | 18:46 |
| Kabouik | And then ignored my answer, and then asked me multiple times to answer, and then thinks I deleted his posts and will lie to cover for it. | 18:46 |
| attah | Neither... but damn, that got heated real fast | 18:46 |
| Kabouik | As shame really, I'd liketo clarify it all but any extra answer would hurt the thread | 18:46 |
| attah | I'm the one who flagged his message(s), because that is no way to treat another human being, or further the discussion for that matter | 18:47 |
| Kabouik | Plus the dev he said is not interesting and insignificant made SFOS run on new devices, was contributing to sailfish-browser (a thing we would all love to see evolving), and made x86 native a thing. Just to name a few out of 78 repositories just on Github. | 18:48 |
| attah | I don't necessarily agree 100% with you, but you at least try to discuss in a reasonable tone | 18:49 |
| Kabouik | Please don't hesitate to tell me what part exactly, maybe I'm wrong, or didn't word it correctly, and I'm happy to edit or clarify if needed | 18:50 |
| attah | I'm still in the phase of gathering facts forming an opinion, as per my post... | 18:52 |
| Kabouik | In any case it's totally ok to disagree, and I'm just an outsider with just a few packages on OBS, so I cam anyway | 18:53 |
| Kabouik | I can't have a firm opinion either* | 18:53 |
| attah | And i can' say i have seen much complaining around here... so you do come across as a bit overly/prematurely negative, but like not even warranting a a TJC downvote | 18:54 |
| Kabouik | But I'm not okay with someone putting words in my mouth and then asking me 3 times to name the person I named before, and starting to be insulting be cause he thinks I don't want to answer | 18:54 |
| attah | Like if people start claiming there is an exodus, the might spawn one etc | 18:54 |
| attah | Yeah, that was totally uncalled for | 18:55 |
| Kabouik | I did, and referred to porters discussion on IRC and Telegram. Those are live chats, and they are open | 18:55 |
| ol | Guys, can you please provide a link to the discussion you're discussing, so I can also form my opinion? | 18:56 |
| Kabouik | I didn't really want to mean exodus, that would be an overstatement, but the porters discussion are still talking about that right now, and they were talking about "considering their other options [other than sfos]" earlier today or yesterday, nothing was made up | 18:56 |
| attah | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/changes-needed-to-merge-the-project-names-to-sailfish-os/1672/38 | 18:56 |
| pketo | uh, maybe I need to put my admin hat on and do something... | 19:07 |
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| ol | OK, I've gathered all facts and came to independent and objective opinion. | 19:23 |
| ol | I'm for banning szopin from forum forever, deleting all his messages and returning to discussing the original topic. | 19:24 |
| ol | pketo (IRC): What do you think? | 19:24 |
| Kabouik | szopin is the dev behind the SFOS viewer app, that would be ironic (and sad, really, unless he is always posting like this?) | 19:26 |
| Kabouik | I am genuinely sorry that my posts put him on fire, I really had no idea there was anything that could be taken this way. I'm refraining myself from answering to keep the thread on point. | 19:27 |
| Kabouik | SFOS Forum Viewer* | 19:27 |
| pketo | Kabouik: no need to be sorry | 19:29 |
| pketo | I have silenced the user for now and we'll review the situation properly next week | 19:30 |
| ol | No matter how good he is as contributor, toxic behaviour negates his contributions because it can discourage more potential contributors from participation. | 19:32 |
| ol | pketo (IRC): Could you please clean up the discussion from his messages completely? | 19:33 |
| Kabouik | I genuinely want to know if I said somthing I shouldn't have that may be taken this way, happy to edit if I did not use the correct words. I'm not a native speaker. | 19:36 |
| attah | Kabouik: Not really... at worst being a bit negative. Not even a TJC downvote in my book. You have 5 hearts even! | 19:41 |
| Kabouik | Mine is yours then <3 | 19:42 |
| Kabouik | Problem is even if it escalated quickly, at first he was just asking simple questions directly to me so I had no reason to ignore him | 19:42 |
| Kabouik | Now, looking backwards, it'd have been if I didn't follow up from the beginning | 19:42 |
| Kabouik | better* | 19:42 |
| attah | nobody can fault you for assuming people will act reasonably | 19:43 |
| Kabouik | Anyway, I think the best to solve this is just to let people who have real things to discuss take over the thread | 19:43 |
| pketo | The clearly offensive/off-topic messages should be now hidden, not sure how/if they show up to normal users, but not deleting them yet | 19:51 |
| pketo | I'm still a bit newbie with the discourse administrative tools :) | 19:54 |
| Nico[m] | It shows up as "This post was flagged by the community and has been temporarily hidden" and you can click a link to view it, I think | 20:04 |
| ol | Yes. And they still occupy significant part of the page. That's why I'm for complete removal. | 20:22 |
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