| altker128 | Question, anyone here familiair with the low-level stuff of Sailfish? | 01:48 |
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| altker128 | I notice more lag than I'd expect in the UI for running with Wayland, etc | 01:48 |
| altker128 | I'd like to help debug / fix that | 01:49 |
| Nico[m] | Do you have framedrops? | 01:49 |
| Nico[m] | Or is it just buffering/input latency? | 01:49 |
| Nico[m] | (you can enable a frame overlay in the settings) | 01:49 |
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| altker128 | Nico[m]: It's latency for sure. The device is an Xperia XA2 Plus / highest end model | 02:16 |
| altker128 | Nico[m]: Is there code that does low-pass filtering of touch inputs? | 02:16 |
| Nico[m] | I actually have no idea, I'm not familiar with the low level stuffs :3 | 02:16 |
| altker128 | Ah | 02:16 |
| altker128 | Do you SFOS? | 02:17 |
| altker128 | *use | 02:17 |
| Nico[m] | Yes, daily, and I also noticed the latency | 02:18 |
| Nico[m] | But you get used to it after a few years :D | 02:18 |
| r0kk3rz | iirc there is a kalman filter on touch eventsw | 02:28 |
| r0kk3rz | theres a tjc about it i think | 02:28 |
| r0kk3rz | https://together.jolla.com/question/156475/210211-swipes-lag-behind-on-jolla-c-aqua-fish/?sort=votes&page=1 | 02:30 |
| Sellerie | altker128: I miss media control keys or something similar so I don't have to take the phone out of pocket, unlock it,open the app to be able to pause it. Otherwise it works of course | 06:27 |
| Sellerie | Oh now that you say it: I also always had the feeling that sfos is just not as "snappy" as Android but I mostly blamed slow animations but It's definitely also some input lag of ~1/4-1/3 second if I have to guess. | 06:33 |
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| attah | Sellerie: Where do you miss media keys? they do exist... | 09:16 |
| Sellerie | attah: I couldn't spot them for e.g. audinaut. It works fine on my android phone | 09:43 |
| Sellerie | Well Media keys inside the app are there of course but I miss a way to control it without unlocking the phone, like e.g. the native music player | 09:44 |
| attah | Hmm, okay... most Anroid apps do get lock screen controls though | 09:44 |
| attah | i thought it was a generic solution hooking in to similar functionality in Android, at least foe the apps that didn't roll their own widget thingy | 09:45 |
| Sellerie | they also listen to media key controls if you e.g. hit pause on the Bluetooth headset | 09:45 |
| attah | it doesn't work? | 09:46 |
| Sellerie | Apparently not | 09:46 |
| attah | I must admit i don't use Android apps that much any more | 09:47 |
| attah | but i seem to recall it working just fine with Audible and Spotify | 09:47 |
| Sellerie | I tried getting Spotify to work yesterday but I couldn't install it | 09:48 |
| Sellerie | You mean the Android app? | 09:49 |
| attah | yeah | 09:49 |
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| Sellerie | Interesting, I tried but aliendalvik threw a notification that the app is incompatible | 09:49 |
| attah | Admittedly i have had mine installed for a year or so | 09:51 |
| Sellerie | might be too new | 09:51 |
| attah | I don't think too new for Android 8 is a thing yet really | 09:52 |
| Sellerie | no idea what the issue is then | 09:52 |
| attah | I just updated to 8.5.57.1164 | 09:53 |
| attah | seems fine | 09:53 |
| attah | Spotify version, that is | 09:53 |
| Sellerie | I already assumed that from the version number | 09:53 |
| attah | Where did you get your apk from? | 09:54 |
| Sellerie | Spotify updater from fdroid | 09:54 |
| attah | Hmm, I simply used Aurora store | 09:54 |
| Sellerie | let me try the same | 09:55 |
| Sellerie | is it possible that the battery consumption of aliendalvik is insanely high? | 09:58 |
| attah | Depends in your definition of insane, but it is certainly noticeable | 09:58 |
| Sellerie | The phone was at 70% battery at ~09:00, had breakfast and didn't touch it at all, now it's a 41% | 09:58 |
| attah | Then something is probably doing a bit too much background work | 09:59 |
| Sellerie | Well I have telegram and riot client running in the background | 09:59 |
| attah | AD or otherwise | 09:59 |
| attah | Sounds pretty extreme | 10:00 |
| Sellerie | AD? | 10:00 |
| attah | AlienDalvik | 10:00 |
| Sellerie | Ah | 10:01 |
| attah | I guess that is technically not correct any more even | 10:01 |
| attah | I'd even call 30% over a day really high for having it on | 10:01 |
| Sellerie | well I'm used to having to charge my Android phone once a day | 10:02 |
| Nico[m] | I usually charge my phone every 2 days. Unless an android app goes rogue and eats my battery | 10:03 |
| Nico[m] | Or a website in my browser | 10:03 |
| attah | I charge every day, for not having to think about it | 10:04 |
| Sellerie | Oh well I use Firefox within AD so I have a proper adblocker | 10:04 |
| Sellerie | That thing may be a battery water | 10:04 |
| Sellerie | *eater | 10:04 |
| attah | Some days that means at 70%, some at 20% | 10:04 |
| attah | Only one way to know, try | 10:04 |
| attah | But i haven't heard that it would be particularly bad | 10:05 |
| Sellerie | well right now lighthouse says that the cpu usage is ~40% with only telegram and riot running in the background | 10:07 |
| Sellerie | oh, 50% | 10:07 |
| Nico[m] | well, that's bad, what's eating the CPU? | 10:08 |
| Sellerie | When I list processes my cpu usage its... lighthouse with 5% | 10:09 |
| Sellerie | That can't be right. Is LH the way to go for checking such stuff? | 10:10 |
| Nico[m] | Yes, and for me it usually show WA taking 30 to 80% CPU in such cases | 10:11 |
| Nico[m] | Are you sorting by CPU usage? | 10:11 |
| Sellerie | yeah | 10:11 |
| Sellerie | But memory footprint looks just as boring | 10:11 |
| Nico[m] | maybe it stopped? | 10:12 |
| Sellerie | what do you mean? | 10:13 |
| Nico[m] | The high CPU usage | 10:13 |
| Sellerie | Oh, no it didn't, the cpu meter is still at 48 | 10:13 |
| Sellerie | what's lipstick? | 10:19 |
| Nico[m] | the compositor | 10:20 |
| Sellerie | Ok I'd consider that necessary :D | 10:21 |
| Sellerie | I stopped the AD service now from the settings but it's still at 48% | 10:22 |
| Sellerie | Okay, after a reboot it looks fine again o.O | 10:26 |
| Nico[m] | maybe just reboot at this point? | 10:26 |
| Nico[m] | I'm slow :D | 10:26 |
| Sellerie | That's okay :P | 10:26 |
| Sellerie | Does lighthouse also display root processes? | 10:27 |
| Nico[m] | no idea | 10:28 |
| Sellerie | Maybe a root process that went rogue | 10:28 |
| Sellerie | Ah btw, when I connect my Thinkpad USB-C PD charger to the phone it first says "charging" and then "disconnect the charger from the power outlet to save power" --> wat | 10:30 |
| Sellerie | Ok I know what kills the battery: As soon as I stop riot the CPU is at 0% :D | 10:45 |
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| altker128 | Sellerie: Which device are you using? | 16:23 |
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| Sellerie | Xperia 10 | 18:09 |
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| Sellerie | Oh, interesting. My device starts up again even though I hit "shutdown". Anyone else experiencing this on Xperia 10? | 23:10 |
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