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| ghosalmartin | anyone seen this https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html | 07:24 |
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| ghosalmartin | and know how it might affect sfos | 07:24 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | Since Sailfish probably won't upgrade to Qt6 for at least a year, I don't think it matters much :D | 07:26 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | Sailfish is far more than a year behind Qt, so... | 07:26 |
| r0kk3rz | depends on how that might affect community contributions | 08:06 |
| r0kk3rz | they do upstream a lot of work to qt | 08:07 |
| Smar | I wonder if KDE could succeed in forking Qt... | 08:09 |
| vilpan | I'd say there's no bad outcome. Either the community gathers behind a fork and gains independence from the company and future threats of this sort become a non-issue. Or a fork turns out infeasible, floss projects move away from Qt eventually and the company loses the marketing channel of pretending to be pro-floss as long as it is convenient. After a temporary period of inconvenience, things will fall into place either way. | 08:17 |
| Smar | well, who knows | 08:36 |
| r0kk3rz | the company is making good dough from infotainment syatems i think | 08:44 |
| r0kk3rz | electronic dashes and the like | 08:45 |
| x2s | uh, this is bad. Digia thinks they have a monopoly here, but they don't | 09:12 |
| x2s | the moment Qt is forked and transfered back to the community they will die | 09:13 |
| x2s | Qt only got big on embedded systems, because the opensource devs introduced it into the companies. And they will move to the fork immediately, if Digia screws them over | 09:13 |
| x2s | oracle thought the same thing about MySQL. And now we have mariadb and nobody really talks about MySQL anymore. | 09:14 |
| x2s | ghosalmartin: the short term effects should be minor the sfos, because they have licensed Qt | 09:15 |
| lpotter | https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-and-open-source | 09:20 |
| x2s | that's it? No more explanations? No note that they will explain further what's going on? | 10:00 |
| x2s | I'm not convinced. | 10:00 |
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| ghosalmartin | x2s, i honestly dont know too much about saw, just saw a reddit post. I haven't been really keeping up with SFOS these days | 11:42 |
| x2s | ghosalmartin: since part of sfos ui is not open source (at least that's the last state I know of) they have to get a license. | 12:04 |
| ghosalmartin | x2s, fair enough. Still haven't up silica eh :P | 12:06 |
| x2s | but KDE is getting into trouble here, because they have to somehow add security patches to Qt if they don't get them from Digia | 12:07 |
| Smar | well not only kde, but whole opensource community | 12:08 |
| x2s | and when you start to build a security infrastructure for another project, you made a very hard and important step that would come with forking... | 12:08 |
| x2s | so why not bother and go all the way? | 12:09 |
| x2s | and tbh, I'd like to help with that. I'm bored out of my mind, because all my projects got canceled and nothing new is on the horizon and my money lasts for another two month before I need to find help (well, I'm screwed anyway), so... lets do it | 12:11 |
| frojnd | Hi there. | 13:25 |
| frojnd | Any devs here? | 13:25 |
| frojnd | Any idea how can I read sms content from ssh? I Would like to automate some things and I need to read sms from specific sender. How can I do that? | 13:26 |
| frojnd | I know there is this project: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/telepathy-ring but I was hoping if there was a simple command I could use to achieve reading of last sms from specific sender | 13:26 |
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| bionade24 | frojnd: Pobably not, you could use DBus commands | 19:22 |
| bionade24 | What's the best way to show errors in Silica? | 19:22 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | What errors? Syntax errors in Qml files? | 19:26 |
| bionade24 | Nico|MentorforNh: No, network or ssl or other errors that can happen at runtime. | 19:28 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | If you run your application from qt creator or via the commandline, it should show those errors, I think | 19:37 |
| bionade24 | Nico|MentorforNh: When I mean runtime, I want to ask what I should show the User? A Dialog in a new Page? Or something else specific for this case. | 19:41 |
| bionade24 | Nico|MentorforNh: For example, the network error page of ytplayer is imho very bad. | 19:41 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | Hm, it depends on where the error happens | 19:42 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | For example a login error I just show an additional label, when an error happens | 19:42 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | But if your video gets interrupted by a network error you may want to choose a different way | 19:43 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | But I'm no export on UI design :D | 19:43 |
| bionade24 | Nico|MentorforNh: I'm much more a noob than you. Is there any message box like on other osses where I get the current page into background? | 19:44 |
| Nico|MentorforNh | Not that I know of. You'd either use a notification or an extra page on the page stack | 19:45 |
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