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| adantes | hi | 07:00 |
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| adantes | My Gemini PD | 07:00 |
| adantes | PDA without a warning, wifi stopped connecting | 07:01 |
| adantes | Wifi is working in Android, the tool wifi analyser in Jolla Store works great as well | 07:01 |
| adantes | a restart as not fixed the problem | 07:02 |
| adantes | is there a way to connect via terminal, or just reinstall network layer? | 07:02 |
| Krikke | Nico[m]: what do you mean? It's not like anyone is implementing anything really. Everything just really sucks all the time | 07:36 |
| Krikke | if you need something, you need to do it yourself | 07:36 |
| Krikke | because everyone else is an idiot | 07:36 |
| Krikke | if you can't do it you're fucked | 07:37 |
| Krikke | there's no need to beg for anything when there is noone listening | 07:37 |
| Krikke | as has been shown clear over the years | 07:37 |
| Krikke | the system has failed and there is no turning back | 07:39 |
| Krikke | just shit is leaking all over the place | 07:39 |
| Krikke | end of rant | 07:46 |
| enigma9o7 | I have a pretty high score on the space invaders attempt by piggz. | 08:15 |
| enigma9o7 | But, I cant shut thru the shields. | 08:16 |
| enigma9o7 | Shoot thru the shields. | 08:16 |
| enigma9o7 | crikey! I feel like I missed half the previous conversation there Krikke. What is Nico begging for? | 08:18 |
| enigma9o7 | Altough I have learned thats the awesome thing about sfos, you can actually do stuff yourself. | 08:18 |
| enigma9o7 | But, the more you try, the deeper you go. | 08:18 |
| enigma9o7 | Like, I tried to build something. But it wanted newer node.js. So okay try to build that. It wants newer gcc. etc etc | 08:18 |
| enigma9o7 | try to build someting else unrelated, it needs SDL.h which somehow isnt included in SDL2-devel | 08:20 |
| enigma9o7 | But, when something actually works, its like wowzerswowowow | 08:20 |
| enigma9o7 | makes it almost feel like real linux distro | 08:21 |
| Krikke | yeah | 08:22 |
| Krikke | I found some people are running things like ubuntu or archlinux in a chroot in sailfishos, I was wondering if I could set up an Xserver and connect an external monitor through that | 08:23 |
| Krikke | would be really nice | 08:23 |
| enigma9o7 | You've tried elrsos's ubu chroot? | 08:23 |
| Krikke | samsung dex out of the box | 08:23 |
| Krikke | who's what? | 08:23 |
| enigma9o7 | i run xfce thru that, its great | 08:23 |
| enigma9o7 | https://github.com/elros34/sailfish_ubu_chroot | 08:24 |
| enigma9o7 | Install that. | 08:24 |
| Krikke | what does it do? | 08:24 |
| enigma9o7 | It needs a little configuration after that to make it comfortable. | 08:24 |
| enigma9o7 | It gives you xfce in ubuntu chroot. | 08:24 |
| Krikke | as an app or? | 08:24 |
| enigma9o7 | So you have xfce desktop maanger, can run ubuntu apps. | 08:24 |
| Krikke | on the sailfish screen? | 08:25 |
| enigma9o7 | yep | 08:25 |
| Krikke | ok, I would like to do that probably but connected to an external monitor | 08:25 |
| Krikke | even just mirror would be fine as a start | 08:26 |
| enigma9o7 | The think you need really is keyboard. | 08:26 |
| Krikke | that part is already working | 08:26 |
| enigma9o7 | If your device has none, use bluetooth/usb/etc. | 08:26 |
| Krikke | I have the Lenovo ThinkVision P27h-10 | 08:27 |
| Krikke | I just connect the phone to it and the keyboard works | 08:27 |
| Krikke | but no picture | 08:27 |
| Krikke | it's an usb keyboard | 08:27 |
| enigma9o7 | But yeah, as an app. xfce appears as an app in sailfish, it takes one cover | 08:27 |
| Krikke | and usb hub in the monitor | 08:27 |
| Krikke | ok | 08:27 |
| Krikke | I would like to display the sailfish screen on the monitor | 08:28 |
| enigma9o7 | but once you're in xfce, as long as you dont swipe back to sailfish, you're in xfce | 08:28 |
| Krikke | ok, I'm not really familiar with xfce, I'm using gnome | 08:28 |
| enigma9o7 | What happens now when you connect to external monitor? | 08:28 |
| enigma9o7 | gnome apps run fine in xfce | 08:28 |
| Krikke | well the on screen keyboard doesn't pop up anymore but I can type from the usb keyboard | 08:29 |
| Krikke | and it inputs straight into sailfish | 08:29 |
| enigma9o7 | that sounds good | 08:29 |
| Krikke | yeah | 08:29 |
| enigma9o7 | thats what happens on device with hardware keyboard | 08:29 |
| Krikke | ok | 08:29 |
| Krikke | so now I just need the picture sent to the monitor too | 08:30 |
| enigma9o7 | just no picture | 08:30 |
| Krikke | it's USB-C and it works with Samsung S10 | 08:30 |
| Krikke | with that monitor | 08:30 |
| enigma9o7 | I assume community port, right? | 08:30 |
| Krikke | they have this app called samsung dex | 08:30 |
| Krikke | no android | 08:30 |
| enigma9o7 | Oh. This is sailfish channel. | 08:30 |
| Krikke | yeah but I'm making a point | 08:31 |
| enigma9o7 | I mean that should work too, but I assumed yer talking sailfish. | 08:31 |
| Krikke | I would like that feature to work on sailfish | 08:31 |
| Krikke | that it also has the picture | 08:31 |
| Krikke | what I was describing earlier was all about sailfish | 08:31 |
| Krikke | on XA2 | 08:31 |
| Krikke | I'm just saying, the picture works on samsung | 08:32 |
| Krikke | and I've tried it works | 08:32 |
| Krikke | so it could be made to work on sailfish too right? | 08:32 |
| enigma9o7 | Yep. | 08:32 |
| enigma9o7 | It can. | 08:32 |
| enigma9o7 | So now I get it. | 08:32 |
| enigma9o7 | HDMI out works on Android, but not Sailfish. | 08:32 |
| Krikke | is it using HDMI over USB-C? | 08:32 |
| enigma9o7 | If you dont have hdmi port, then the only way to get hdmi is from usb-c. | 08:33 |
| enigma9o7 | On photon q, for example, it has a real hdmi port. | 08:33 |
| enigma9o7 | But the last time I tried, no hdmi output under sailfish. | 08:33 |
| enigma9o7 | But works fine under Android. | 08:33 |
| Krikke | I'm plugging it into usb-c | 08:33 |
| Krikke | on XA2 on sailfish | 08:33 |
| enigma9o7 | XA2 should be supported by Jolla tho. | 08:33 |
| Krikke | it is | 08:33 |
| enigma9o7 | So it should actually work. | 08:33 |
| Krikke | it has Sailfish X | 08:33 |
| Krikke | I just need some kind of software | 08:34 |
| enigma9o7 | On PQ, its community port and not supposed to work (when I tried it) | 08:34 |
| Krikke | maybe X? | 08:34 |
| Krikke | I mean xorg xserver | 08:34 |
| Krikke | what is PQ? | 08:35 |
| enigma9o7 | Motorola Photon Q. Old keyboard phone. | 08:35 |
| Krikke | k | 08:36 |
| Krikke | never heard about that one | 08:36 |
| enigma9o7 | Then you're not a keyboard phone enthusiast still living in 2020. | 08:36 |
| enigma9o7 | But thats' fine, not many are. | 08:36 |
| Krikke | no I'm more of a gamer | 08:37 |
| enigma9o7 | Most have recently died. | 08:37 |
| enigma9o7 | Gamers are still alive I believe. | 08:37 |
| enigma9o7 | Just the meaning of the term has changed. | 08:37 |
| Krikke | but the idea that I could carry just a phone and plug it into the monitor and do work as a thin client sounds really good to me | 08:37 |
| Krikke | wouldn't have to drag along a laptop to work | 08:37 |
| enigma9o7 | My smartphone is more powerful than my pc. | 08:38 |
| enigma9o7 | So I understand. | 08:38 |
| Krikke | I can't say the same | 08:38 |
| Krikke | I just got a Ryzen 3950X | 08:38 |
| enigma9o7 | I dont even know what tha tmeans. | 08:38 |
| Krikke | it's a new AMD cpu | 08:38 |
| enigma9o7 | But I bought my laptop on craiglist a few years ago for $110 | 08:38 |
| enigma9o7 | and it works grewat | 08:38 |
| enigma9o7 | but was made in 2009 | 08:38 |
| Krikke | ok | 08:38 |
| Krikke | 16 cores | 08:39 |
| enigma9o7 | My phone has 8. | 08:39 |
| enigma9o7 | I think my pc has 4. | 08:39 |
| Krikke | nice | 08:39 |
| enigma9o7 | My phone has 6gb. So does my pc. | 08:39 |
| enigma9o7 | iq-720qm on the pc. Hmmm trying to determine cores. | 08:40 |
| enigma9o7 | confirmed, 4 cores. | 08:41 |
| enigma9o7 | at 1.6Ghz. | 08:41 |
| enigma9o7 | So yeah my phone is the most powerful computer in the house. | 08:41 |
| enigma9o7 | There are a couple more computers in the house, pcs i set up for my kids, but thats a p4 and athlon64, so even if we added them to my pc, i'm pretty sure my phone would win. | 08:43 |
| Krikke | yeah | 08:51 |
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| mal | enigma9o7: based on my checking of the SDL2-devel rpm file the SDL.h file is there as it should be | 10:30 |
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| Krikke | enigma9o7: how did you get the multi-instance patch applied? patchmanager says it's not supported | 13:51 |
| Krikke | hmm I tried to just modify it | 14:16 |
| Krikke | dunno what it's supposed to do :D | 14:16 |
| Krikke | hmm I got it running | 14:38 |
| Krikke | but seems there is no driver to run X | 16:41 |
| Krikke | device I mean | 16:41 |
| enigma9o7 | For reference, I had to enable developer options in patch manager to get the multi-instance patch to work. | 19:22 |
| enigma9o7 | Not sure what you mean about no device to run X tho. You do have to install QXcompositor.... | 19:23 |
| Krikke | enigma9o7: I have it, then it shows the XWAYLAND screen | 20:47 |
| Krikke | but I want to run a separate Xserver so I can see it on the external monitor | 20:48 |
| Krikke | but I guess it's just not possible | 20:48 |
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