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| *** frinring_ is now known as frinring | 05:07 | |
| * ToeiRei waves hello. | 09:26 | |
| ToeiRei | I stumbled upon sailfish today and I'm pretty confused. | 09:28 |
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| ToeiRei | as far as I understand, it should be a mobile OS which is not android, right? | 09:29 |
| Smar | yes | 09:29 |
| ToeiRei | Maemo and that kind of things, if I remember that right | 09:30 |
| ToeiRei | but why do I need to flash some CM/Android 5 then? | 09:30 |
| Smar | do you? | 09:31 |
| ToeiRei | as far as I can see from the tutorials - whereas I am not sure what outdated stuff I have here | 09:31 |
| Smar | it depends of the phone, but basically you should flash Sailfish’s image and not vice versa | 09:32 |
| Smar | which tutorial you’re looking at? | 09:32 |
| ToeiRei | I'm having a 1+1 around here.... | 09:32 |
| ToeiRei | the tutorials I have here suggest some weird multiboot stuff | 09:33 |
| Smar | I don’t think that’s official image provided by Jolla? | 09:33 |
| ToeiRei | I suspect those wouldn't work on that device | 09:33 |
| Smar | probably, but I don’t know but the official image | 09:34 |
| ToeiRei | afaik official images are for sony Xperia and those. | 09:35 |
| Smar | yes | 09:35 |
| ToeiRei | so basically I'm 'officially out' ;) | 09:36 |
| Smar | well, your tutorial may work | 09:36 |
| ToeiRei | that's why I say 'officially'. It doesn't say i give up. | 09:37 |
| Smar | ah, right :) | 09:37 |
| ToeiRei | my point is that I'm fed up with the common android userland. | 09:37 |
| Smar | well, I’d think you could ignore any multiboot things | 09:37 |
| Smar | and install only sailfish | 09:37 |
| ToeiRei | I think so. | 09:38 |
| Smar | but this only a guess | 09:38 |
| ToeiRei | I mean it's just a bit of taking that multiboot thingy apart to see what it actually does | 09:38 |
| ToeiRei | I am checking out alternatives for the android userland trying to get *something* useful. | 09:38 |
| Smar | which tutorial you’re following? | 09:39 |
| ToeiRei | https://github.com/wdehoog/sailfish-bacon-images/wiki | 09:39 |
| ToeiRei | digging into there. | 09:39 |
| ToeiRei | not done the complete homework on it yet... | 09:40 |
| ToeiRei | 3.0.2.8 beta 1 was checked in there a few hours ago... which is just a number to me yet | 09:40 |
| Smar | ”The sailfish-bacon image needs to be installed together with a Cyanogenmod image. To fully support camera and video this needs to be cm-12.1-YOG7D-sf-20170218-bacon.zip.” | 09:40 |
| Smar | that’s probably more or less newest version | 09:41 |
| Smar | so I guess you really should do that CM thingy | 09:41 |
| ToeiRei | yep. I *think* it's some kind of driver harvesting | 09:41 |
| Smar | yeap | 09:41 |
| Smar | that’s actually how xperia’s Android support works (and maybe other drivers) | 09:42 |
| Smar | or similar, anyway | 09:42 |
| ToeiRei | I was thinking that it could be their sandbox. But tbh, android 5? | 09:42 |
| Smar | at least it *has* android support, that’s more than one would expect :P | 09:43 |
| ToeiRei | "even the bugs from back then were ported" ;) | 09:43 |
| Smar | :> | 09:43 |
| ToeiRei | I had my share with that ubuntu touch yesterday night | 09:43 |
| Smar | ^^; | 09:44 |
| ToeiRei | and I went 'holy crap, that thing is iPhony'.... | 09:44 |
| Smar | sailfish is nice, and bends to surprisingly many things | 09:44 |
| ToeiRei | my workflow is kinda.... oldfashioned from the Windows PE times if you remember those | 09:45 |
| Smar | never really used | 09:45 |
| ToeiRei | having a dashboard showing me my schedule for the day, tasks and all that stuff at one glance. | 09:45 |
| ToeiRei | and a few apps pulled out for faster access... | 09:46 |
| Smar | yeap :P | 09:46 |
| ToeiRei | I do not want to swipe and tap through tons of steps until having my next task showing up | 09:46 |
| ToeiRei | sadly android with quite chronius is the only thing so far to do that. Anything else needs additional steps. | 09:47 |
| ToeiRei | you know - reducing SoT | 09:47 |
| Smar | SoT? | 09:47 |
| ToeiRei | Screen On Time | 09:47 |
| Smar | ah | 09:47 |
| ToeiRei | Pull device out, unlock, look, put back into pocket. Rinse/Repeat as needed. | 09:47 |
| ToeiRei | I would be mean if I'd deny the fact that a persons smartphone gets touched more often and caressed that their partner ;) | 09:49 |
| Smar | :D | 09:54 |
| ToeiRei | I looked at the CM image. Seems to be drivers / HAL | 10:16 |
| ToeiRei | okay.... that's pretty much swiping on sailfish | 10:38 |
| *** frinring_ is now known as frinring | 14:05 | |
| Almindor | spiiroin: any news on the mce/audio front? | 19:37 |
| antis | mal: you there? | 20:31 |
| antis | On libhybris wiki the modem image is still given in BP folder. Seems this is no longer true and the FPOS zip has a flat file hierarchy now. | 20:37 |
| mal | antis: fixed | 21:28 |
| antis | That was fast cool! | 21:28 |
| antis | Found that the acceleration sensor seems not working quite right after upgrading to 3.0.2.8 on FP2. Opened an issue on the site: https://bugtracker.fairphone.com/project/fairphone-community-port-sailfishos-for-fp2/issues?q= | 21:30 |
| antis | Might as well be a "false positive" though as I just noticed that when quickly rushing through some apps… | 21:32 |
| mal | antis: what do you mean it's not working? | 21:33 |
| mal | did you try to reboot, but before that grab journalctl -n100000 or something | 21:34 |
| antis | I tried that old "whip" fun app and it does not react on movements. So I found that "Spring" app and it does show something, but values on x,y,z remain "0.0". Will check the log thanks! | 21:35 |
| spiiroin | Almindor: not yet, forgot about vacations. ping me again monday ... | 21:36 |
| mal | antis: also harbour-messwerk app is good for checking all sensors | 21:40 |
| mal | should be available to install via commandline | 21:40 |
| antis | Installed the app: Really cool thanks! | 22:06 |
| mal | antis: I have used 3.0.2 for quite a while now without any sensor issues | 22:07 |
| antis | Sensors all work fine. So it is that old app not playing nicely. No problem. | 22:07 |
| mal | antis: do native apps rotate correctly, like messages app | 22:08 |
| mal | *jolla apps | 22:08 |
| antis | Messages? You mean portrait/landscape mode? Yeah they do. | 22:10 |
| mal | so that means accelerometer sensor works without problems | 22:10 |
| antis | Yeah no problem. I was just mislead by an old app. Sorry for the inconvinience. :) | 22:11 |
| mal | need to check the apps you said, were did you get those, store or openrepos? | 22:12 |
| antis | I noticed that behaviour only on the "WhipMe" fun app from Jolla store. | 22:19 |
| antis | What I find more important from a "usability" aspect is, that if the device is in landscape mode, the top menu stays in portrait. This is, when rotation is locked and an app "forces" a layout (like e.g. some video or game apps do). | 22:22 |
| mal | hmm, that's not supposed to happen, if app correctly force landscape the top menu should be landscape | 22:29 |
| mal | antis: whipme works fine for me | 22:30 |
| mal | it's just not very sensitive, needs to be quite quick whipping motion | 22:30 |
| antis | Hmm… nope. Even by reinstalling it is still not "whipping". | 22:35 |
| antis | Permissions maybe? | 22:36 |
| antis | Hmm… -> o journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions. | 22:47 |
| antis | *no | 22:47 |
| antis | when trying to run "journalctl" | 22:48 |
| mal | you need to run it with devel-su, i.e. journalctl needs root permissions | 22:56 |
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