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| shan | Hi | 07:09 |
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| shan | installed it on my cell phone yesterday | 07:09 |
| tadzik | sweet :) | 07:15 |
| shan | tadzik, it's pretty boring, ill be honest | 07:18 |
| shan | tadzik, and way too high level. I'd prefer a developer distro like PMOS | 07:18 |
| tadzik | never heard of it | 07:20 |
| tadzik | ah, postmarket | 07:20 |
| tadzik | I despise android, so I'm here | 07:20 |
| shan | tadzik, i like android but it's pretty boring and im looking for a change | 07:22 |
| tadzik | heh, I quite like boring OSes :) | 09:28 |
| tadzik | android wouldn't be so bad if its ecosystem wasn't a minefield | 09:28 |
| r0kk3rz | sailfish is plenty exciting | 09:31 |
| r0kk3rz | you never know whether the action you're doing will work | 09:31 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: have you done much stuff with mime type handling? | 10:57 |
| vinipsmaker | do you guys use something like Uber? | 11:45 |
| leszek | nope. I think Uber is forbidden even in some european countries | 11:49 |
| leszek | like there is no uber in germany | 11:50 |
| tadzik | I do | 11:51 |
| tadzik | their mobile website works well enough, on a competent browser at least | 11:51 |
| vinipsmaker | tadzik: I didn't know you could use Uber w/o the app. Gonna try. Thanks. | 12:36 |
| tadzik | vinipsmaker: yeah, m.uber.com is quite functional | 13:14 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: not really. what's up? | 13:20 |
| vinipsmaker | tadzik: you use it with the default browser? | 13:22 |
| tadzik | vinipsmaker: no, the android firefox | 13:23 |
| tadzik | didn't work in the default browser, I haven't tried webcat | 13:23 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: was looking into .opus files last night, looks like theres some work to do there to make sure everything is happy | 13:23 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: the codec is there and works fine, its just getting things like filebrowser and mediaplayer to actually load it | 13:24 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: we also had a request for some weird ancient audio format - https://together.jolla.com/question/197735/musepack-playback-in-media-app/ | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | which seems easy, but i wonder whether we should even bother, since it predates even vorbis i think | 13:27 |
| abranson | opus are ogg files i think, no? | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | they are yeah | 13:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but they have a different mime type maybe | 13:29 |
| abranson | ok, so maybe we just need to add that to the tracker config so it gets parsed with the vorbis, if the metadata's the same. | 13:35 |
| abranson | do you have one? | 13:35 |
| abranson | musepack needs an external lib to build in gst-plugins-bad. i don't think that's worth it | 13:36 |
| abranson | there's also support in gst-libav, which is probably the best solution. r0kk3rz' codec pack :D | 13:37 |
| r0kk3rz | ah i see | 13:37 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: i was testing with the audio download from here https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-10005-how_does_the_internet_work | 13:38 |
| r0kk3rz | initially tracker didnt pick it up, but firing tracker index --file at it seemed to do the job | 13:38 |
| r0kk3rz | the built-in filebrowser also said 'unknown mime type' | 13:38 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: which file from media.ccc.de? Opus? | 13:39 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the opus audio download | 13:39 |
| r0kk3rz | https://cdn.media.ccc.de/congress/2018/opus/35c3-10005-eng-How_does_the_Internet_work_opus.opus | 13:39 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: hmm, i have an album in opus on my device and it's indexed. not 100% accurate - the track title is the filename - but it has album, artist and even album art there | 13:40 |
| leszek | ah ok. So it is not picked up by tracker. I think my video player should play it fine | 13:40 |
| abranson | leszek: could do with someone else testing that - tracker picked it up fine for me | 13:41 |
| leszek | what is harder and apparently people are doing it. Is recognizing webm as audio format. As youtube audio tracks and LLs video player and others when downloading the audio track from youtube videos download them as webm | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | i should probably put my gst-libav build on openrepos, for everyones weirdarse obscure codec requirements | 13:43 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: i think it would be very popular | 13:43 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: if there's stuff that tracker doesn't pick up, then rules can be added to /usr/share/tracker/extract-rules to match | 13:44 |
| r0kk3rz | aha, i was wondering where to look for that kind of thing | 13:45 |
| r0kk3rz | i only found the big ignorelist | 13:45 |
| leszek | haha .opus files is what my video player is actually registering to as mimetype | 13:45 |
| leszek | tracker picks up the opus file just fine | 13:46 |
| r0kk3rz | ok good | 13:46 |
| leszek | tested on my xa2 which still is lying around otherwise and catching dust :/ | 13:46 |
| abranson | i'd forgotten I had an opus test album. Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds. Going to have to put that on now. | 13:47 |
| leszek | just another interesting thing. Leaving my media player paused in the background apparently eats battery. The same goes for media player and so on. I think all media playing apps have the issue | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | they mostly all use qtmultimedia so its not that surprising | 13:49 |
| leszek | Oh and fun fact just because it comes to my mind. I was complaining a lot about the Xperia X headphone jack producing a hizz like background noise. Apparently all the "non proper dac" smartphones have the same issue. I tested it with my blackberry key2 and a proper headphone (the ones they deliver is so much bass heavy and high cutting that you don't notice it) and its even worse than the xperia x output | 13:49 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: I assume if you pause in qtmultimedia it never lets go of the audio device hence the audio cannot go to sleep and that eats the battery | 13:50 |
| leszek | but worst is having email or webcat running with qtwebkit in the background. Its like a battery draining machine. | 13:51 |
| abranson | leszek: about webm - i gather it's one of those formats that can contain video or audio or both, like mp4. does tracker index them at all? | 13:51 |
| abranson | i think it does check for a video stream for mp4 files and react accordingly | 13:52 |
| leszek | abranson: actually tracker is indexing them. And media is showing them | 13:53 |
| leszek | just not with a correct time code. So 00:00 your fancy webm music | 13:53 |
| leszek | and yes webm is basically googles variant of mkv | 13:54 |
| leszek | or matroska actually | 13:54 |
| leszek | there might be mka for audio xD | 13:54 |
| r0kk3rz | i blame windows for all this file extention shenannigans | 13:55 |
| leszek | yeah and the cancer of file extensions is now overall. Like also on usual linux desktops. Rename a music file .txt and it tries to open kate | 13:58 |
| leszek | or gedit or _insert_your_favorite_texteditor | 13:58 |
| leszek | beos/haiku is the only os I know of that does it right :P | 13:59 |
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| attah | r0kk3rz: thanks for checking on opus support for me | 19:07 |
| attah | apparently the correct mime type is application/ogg, at least here and for that particular file | 19:07 |
| attah | i put that in to jolla-mediaplayer-openfile.desktop, and now xdg-open no longer invokes the browser.. but media player doesn't launch properly | 19:08 |
| attah | and if i read it right, that's already covered in /usr/share/tracker/extract-rules/10-vorbis.rule | 19:11 |
| r0kk3rz | the mime was different for me | 19:17 |
| attah | weird | 19:17 |
| attah | file --mime-type -b 35c3-10005-eng-How_does_the_Internet_work_opus.opus | 19:17 |
| r0kk3rz | 'audio/x-opus+ogg' | 19:18 |
| attah | Strange... | 19:19 |
| attah | that's one of the other ones i put in there and left in, but not what made it start working | 19:19 |
| r0kk3rz | file says application/ogg, file browser says audio/x-opus+ogg | 19:19 |
| attah | funky | 19:19 |
| attah | so throwing that into the vorbis rule, jay or nay? | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | hmmm | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | thats just for tracker, and the other guys was saying that tracker was indexing their opus files just fine | 19:21 |
| r0kk3rz | id be tempted to create an opus.rule though | 19:22 |
| r0kk3rz | with both audio and application types set properly | 19:22 |
| attah | sounds like a good idea... but what ModulePath? | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | lets see what we got | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | must be the vorbis one, although its not vorbis its ogg | 19:25 |
| attah | That did indeed take care of indexing | 19:32 |
| attah | but that's quite the roundabout way to listen to a downloaded talk | 19:33 |
| r0kk3rz | :D | 19:33 |
| FloR707 | Hi, I do have a quick question regarding margins. In a column I added a anchors.bottomMargin to the last element but that margin is not applied. The element sits right on the screen end and is hard to use. How can I add some margin here? | 20:19 |
| attah | So your column is growing downwards, not upwards? | 20:23 |
| FloR707 | It is. | 20:23 |
| FloR707 | The column holds the entire content for that page. | 20:23 |
| attah | So make it shorter? The items in it can't really be expected to compress, can they? | 20:23 |
| FloR707 | So you are saying to set a hight for the column that is page.heigt - margin? | 20:24 |
| attah | i'm saying to have less or slimmer stuff in it | 20:25 |
| FloR707 | Column holds a list the user can fill. So the height is not fixed. | 20:25 |
| attah | as in a SilicaListView? | 20:26 |
| FloR707 | I have a Page in it is a SilicaFlickable and in that is the column. I think that is the basic example Jolla provides. | 20:27 |
| FloR707 | The column holds different items. One is a ListView that gets populated by the user. | 20:28 |
| attah | okay.. but woudn't pushing some object upwards make it overlap something else? | 20:29 |
| FloR707 | The last element is a button and I would like to have same spacing between that button and the end of the scrren. | 20:29 |
| FloR707 | The column can scroll. If I scroll to the end the last element sites right at the edge of the screen. | 20:29 |
| attah | so then i'm back to suggesting making the stuff before it less tall | 20:29 |
| attah | columns can scroll? | 20:30 |
| FloR707 | Is it not possible to add some margin so that content does not touch the screen edges? | 20:30 |
| attah | For a listview that should work.. | 20:31 |
| FloR707 | The column is as high as its content. If that is more than the screen height it will scroll. | 20:31 |
| attah | but in the case of a column i have no idea | 20:31 |
| attah | still not sure if you want things to scroll in under the button or in under some arbitrary margin | 20:32 |
| attah | either way, it sounds like you need more components in your view | 20:33 |
| attah | No idea if this is helpful... but here is some mess i made with dual columns https://github.com/attah/harbour-splay/tree/master/qml/pages | 20:34 |
| attah | This: https://github.com/attah/harbour-splay/blob/master/qml/pages/PlayPage.qml | 20:34 |
| FloR707 | Thanks for the idea. I just added the margin to the contentHeight of the SilicaFlickable and it did the trick but I am not sure of that is the right way to do it. | 20:38 |
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| vinipsmaker | why do I get "too many authentication failures" when trying to SSH'ing into sfos? | 22:17 |
| mal | vinipsmaker: did set password in developer mode settings and you are using the correct password? | 22:19 |
| vinipsmaker | I don't have a chance to type the password as it will kick me out even earlier | 22:19 |
| vinipsmaker | wait. it worked now. | 22:20 |
| vinipsmaker | weird | 22:20 |
| vinipsmaker | Received disconnect from 192.168.2.15 port 22:2: Too many authentication failures | 22:20 |
| vinipsmaker | Disconnected from 192.168.2.15 port 22 | 22:20 |
| vinipsmaker | this was the previous error just for reference | 22:21 |
| vinipsmaker | but it worked now | 22:21 |
| mal | odd | 22:21 |
| vinipsmaker | is there a way to revert sfos installation on Xperia X and get Android back? | 23:06 |
| mal | probably the emma flashin tool can do that at least, if you can get the android fastboot images otherwise then fastboot can be used also | 23:10 |
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