| tortoisedoc | alo | 07:59 |
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| tortoisedoc | who was following the calendar stuff? | 07:59 |
| tortoisedoc | was it Chris Adams? | 08:01 |
| tortoisedoc | I have an issue as in I can't add my owncloud calendars as the sever I run has a self-signed cert | 08:02 |
| tortoisedoc | so it seems to be impossible to add a calendar from a server behind a self-signed cert | 08:02 |
| tortoisedoc | BUT | 08:02 |
| tortoisedoc | if you add only the account, it allows you to enable the option to ignore ssl validation | 08:02 |
| tortoisedoc | failures | 08:03 |
| tortoisedoc | except then you cant add a calendar anymore.. | 08:03 |
| tortoisedoc | lbt : this is an example of a failed build due to SIGBUS https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log/home:tortoisedoc:branches:home:sfietkonstantin:sailfish:rust/rust-1.27.2/sailfishos_sfiet_i486/i586 | 09:09 |
| tortoisedoc | lbt its just difficult to buid this locally | 09:18 |
| tortoisedoc | as so much has to be built :D | 09:18 |
| tortoisedoc | lbt : I think this gives a pretty good explanation of what's happening : https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/35408 | 10:13 |
| feodoran | To use mapbox-gl, do I need to install it in the build vm? If yes, how? | 10:16 |
| rinigus | feodoran: if you use it as qml plugin, you will need it on device only via openrepos (preferred) or obs (may have some testing versions occasionally). if you want to test in emulator, you will need to install it there | 10:20 |
| rinigus | feodoran: you may need it in build vm iff you want to link c++ to some of its functions. but we haven't had a use case for that yet. | 10:22 |
| feodoran | rinigus: well the mapbox-gl-qml/app example project seems to need it. | 10:23 |
| rinigus | feodoran: my bad - I will probably need to remove this example. with QML plugin installed, its way easier by just using MapboxMap QML type. See https://github.com/rinigus/pure-maps/blob/master/qml/Map.qml as an example of use | 10:26 |
| feodoran | rinigus: okay, thanks | 10:27 |
| rinigus | feodoran: when compared to mapbox-gl-qml/app, you could use demo app qml/main.qml and just add import statement from pure maps. let me know if you run into any troubles | 10:28 |
| feodoran | rinigus: for some reason I get "QQuickItemMapboxGL is not installed" | 10:33 |
| feodoran | just run it with `qmlscene app/qml/main.qml`? (after installing mapbox-gl from openrepos of course) | 10:35 |
| rinigus | feodoran: do you call it from c++ | 10:35 |
| rinigus | feodoran: yes, just qmlscene | 10:35 |
| feodoran | this is what I get: https://pastebin.com/1Hvw6C4Y | 10:37 |
| feodoran | rinigus ^ | 10:37 |
| rinigus | feodoran: with that example, there maybe some code which doesn't run on sfos. that example is for desktop, so you may need to adjust (just a sec, will look into the paste) | 10:38 |
| feodoran | I also tried mapbox-demo-sfos/qml-only, but here I got "[ ERROR ] "{QSGRenderThread}[Setup]: loading style failed: HTTP status code 401"" | 10:41 |
| rinigus | feodoran: you will need to adjust example for sfos (no qt controls) and add import statement for mapbox (see pure maps). i may add example in 1h to a repo, if you wish | 10:41 |
| rinigus | feodoran: other demo - please add your personal mapbox key to make it run | 10:42 |
| rinigus | feodoran: but otherwise sfos example should be the right one | 10:42 |
| feodoran | rinigus: key = MAPBOX_ACCESS_TOKEN ? | 10:44 |
| feodoran | or where does it go? | 10:44 |
| rinigus | feodoran: yes, thats the one. you'll have to register at mapbox as developer, make your key and add it to qml as a corresponding property value in qml. see api description for mapbox qml | 10:46 |
| feodoran | rinigus: maybe you can add a note about that to the mapbox-demo-sfos readme | 10:47 |
| rinigus | feodoran: yes, I should | 10:48 |
| feodoran | rinigus: with key the demo works fine, thank you | 10:55 |
| rinigus | feodoran: you're welcome! | 10:56 |
| rinigus | feodoran: I updated README for qml plugin and sfos demo repos. thanks for the feedback! | 11:58 |
| Martiini | how do I install Sailfish on Xperia X ? | 14:32 |
| Martiini | ei se mitään, mä löydän ite | 14:42 |
| x2s | Martiini: get the image, get the flasher, follow the instructions :) | 14:59 |
| Martiini | :/ | 15:01 |
| x2s | but that's basically it | 15:02 |
| x2s | there's nothing hard or fancy about it | 15:02 |
| Martiini | hmm, yes | 15:04 |
| Martiini | youtube tutorials also exist | 15:04 |
| x2s | why do you need a youtube tutoral for this? | 15:22 |
| x2s | There's a documentation where everything is explained in detail... | 15:22 |
| caitlin | how the smurf does the xa2 know it's been fed a line cable and not a headphone cable? | 15:28 |
| Martiini | maybe some headphones identify themselves | 15:30 |
| caitlin | https://pastebin.com/R2FAXPg4 's weird.... i can only think it's the impedence | 15:32 |
| caitlin | might find a restistor and bung it on the line cable and see if i can outfox it | 15:32 |
| Martiini | yes, different resistance maybe | 15:33 |
| Martiini | caitlin, do u have a girl's name? | 15:34 |
| Martiini | caitlin, r u some young girl-genius who hacks all the hardware | 15:35 |
| caitlin | I am indeed a woman | 15:36 |
| caitlin | please do not be shocked, we are just as clever as the man ones | 15:36 |
| Martiini | some male jacks dont identify themselves properly | 15:36 |
| caitlin | young, not so much either :/ a bit early middle aged | 15:37 |
| caitlin | how can a jack 'identify' itself? it's either TR TRS TRRS or has a detectable load on it... there's no protocol negotiation | 15:37 |
| caitlin | hah, science! I have some headphones which are TRS and have a detachable cable, cable only lineout.. cable plugged into headphones it goes headphone mode | 15:48 |
| Martiini | cool | 15:50 |
| caitlin | not that cool. my car doesn't have bluetooth on the stereo, so i'm stuck listening to that RADIO thing from the 1900s | 15:51 |
| caitlin | should i raise this as a bug, or shut up because this is pretty alpha software and go and buy an iphone :P | 15:52 |
| mal | caitlin: jusa is the person mostly doing audio, not sure how much lineout support has been tested | 16:04 |
| Martiini | caitlin, I bought Bluetooth FM transmitter for car - you can listen to music through that | 16:10 |
| caitlin | yup, there are solutions, but ive got line level stuff all ooooover the place so i am a bit sad | 16:12 |
| Martiini | I'd actually want a good touchscreen computer in my car | 16:12 |
| Martiini | future cars will have everything... Tesla isn't some technological peak | 16:13 |
| caitlin | heh, I built one of those once, out of a mini-itx and whatnot | 16:13 |
| Martiini | sigh,, Elon Musk is sure that humans will go "multi-planetary",, but Im not sure there are many advanced civilizations | 17:04 |
| ol | caitlin (IRC): Your name sounds like Irish. Are you based in Ireland? | 17:26 |
| caitlin | it is of the oirish, however i am not. I''m stashed in another celtish place, SCOTTISHLAND | 17:28 |
| Martiini | in Scotland they made "Highlander" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_(film) | 17:32 |
| tortoisedoc | In Scotland they make Caol Ila | 17:36 |
| tortoisedoc | https://www.malts.com/en-row/distilleries/caol-ila/ | 17:36 |
| tortoisedoc | probably something you would drink whilst watching Highlander | 17:36 |
| tortoisedoc | or bravehearth, if you are into that type of movies, that is | 17:37 |
| caitlin | or that kind of drug | 17:38 |
| caitlin | it's not actually a theme park, people do live here in amongst all the tourism :P | 17:38 |
| Martiini | yes, for Americans | 17:45 |
| caitlin | pretty popular with china and japan also | 17:46 |
| caitlin | actual castles though, imagine | 17:46 |
| depscribe | hey folks, an issue here: new ambience application brings things to a halt before i can get to login screen. is there a way to SSH in and uninstall it or force a boot to a terminal? | 17:51 |
| depscribe | because otherwise my xperia x is bricked. | 18:03 |
| mal | depscribe: does it always hang? | 18:04 |
| depscribe | mal : yup. word "Xplanet" comes up, which was normal, but then it halts. | 18:05 |
| depscribe | Can get to top menu, but nothing there works. Can't swipr eo login screen. | 18:06 |
| depscribe | swipr eo = swipe to | 18:06 |
| Martiini | yes, chinese https://sailfishos.club/topic/154/sony-xperia-x-compact-%E5%88%B7sailfishos%E6%96%B9%E6%B3%95 | 18:09 |
| mal | depscribe: is that a new installation or updated? did you have any patches enabled if it was an update? | 18:10 |
| Martiini | Android is still best to flash | 18:11 |
| depscribe | mal : no patches. it was an upgrade of xplanet-desktop from openrepos. seemed to go uneventfully. no warnings re. problems. but it's not fully loading | 18:12 |
| depscribe | and things grind to a halt until it does. can't ssh in. i know how to fix it if i can get in. | 18:13 |
| depscribe | this on 3.0.0.8 | 18:14 |
| tmynttin | depscribe: Did you try recovery mode: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002996893?mobile_site=true | 18:21 |
| mal | depscribe: what is xplanet-desktop? | 18:23 |
| depscribe | mal : this https://openrepos.net/content/eatdirt/xplanet-background | 18:25 |
| mal | so before installing that it worked? | 18:26 |
| depscribe | tmynttin : hoped not to have to go that far. | 18:26 |
| depscribe | mal : yes. and worked fine with previous version of xplanet-background. which, it turns out, uses different config files and image locations than previous version. | 18:27 |
| mal | well if you can access the sailfish rootfs from recovery you can disable that systemd service? | 18:27 |
| depscribe | mal : i'd guess. was really, really hoping for something that won't take the rest of the day, but oh, well. we really need a magic way of booting to a terminal! | 18:30 |
| mal | depscribe: I didn't mean using recovery the usual way | 18:31 |
| mal | depscribe: I mean if there is terminal connection there or something | 18:32 |
| depscribe | if i could SSH in, i could fix it, but best i can tell, i can't. if i connect a cable i get "unlock device first" | 18:33 |
| tmynttin | depscribe: afaik you can use shell in recovery mode | 18:34 |
| mal | is there a hybris-recovery.img in the installation zip? | 18:35 |
| mal | fastboot boot hybris-recovery.img should give some debugging possibilities | 18:35 |
| depscribe | yup, it's there -- problem is, that's 2.2.18 -- i did 3.0.0.8 TOA. | 18:36 |
| mal | shouldn't matter, that recovery image stops at early boot, should allow telnet to 192.168.2.15 port 23 | 18:37 |
| mal | or something like tat | 18:39 |
| depscribe | am trying. stuck at <waiting for device> | 18:42 |
| mal | depscribe: did you boot it to fastboot mode first? | 18:46 |
| depscribe | good news: i'm in to the shell. bad news, i have no idea what to do now! | 18:48 |
| depscribe | what tools are available when ssh'ed in in recovery mode? none of the commands i normally use seem to be available, and the docs are to restore to factory state. | 18:53 |
| mal | depscribe: so are in rootfs now? | 18:55 |
| depscribe | for instance, there's no pkcon, or del, or, well, any command i recognize | 18:55 |
| depscribe | mal : yup. | 18:56 |
| depscribe | ls seems to work, though. | 18:57 |
| mal | depscribe: the service files you are looking for are in /usr/lib/systemd/user/ | 18:57 |
| mal | look for xplanet files there | 18:57 |
| mal | the ugly way is to just delete the xplanet services and hope it help | 18:57 |
| depscribe | -sh: cd: can't cd to /usr/lib/systemd/user/ | 18:58 |
| depscribe | ls: /usr/lib/systemd/user/: No such file or directory | 18:59 |
| mal | are you sure you are in rootfs | 18:59 |
| depscribe | recovery:/ # | 18:59 |
| mal | check mount | 18:59 |
| mal | that might not be the sailfish rootfs | 18:59 |
| depscribe | it lists "/dev/sailfish/root on /rootfs type ext4" | 19:00 |
| depscribe | it keeps claiming that there is no /usr/lib/systemd/user/ | 19:07 |
| mal | depscribe: so go to /rootfs ? | 19:08 |
| mal | what does it show? | 19:08 |
| depscribe | i was able to dig my way down, one subdir at a time. have deleted things xplanet. i suppose i'm ready to try a reboot. | 19:09 |
| mal | ok | 19:10 |
| depscribe | which i did: and nothing is changed. need to nuke xplanet-background itself, because it seems the services are restored on boot. | 19:12 |
| depscribe | no idea how to do that from telnet. | 19:13 |
| depscribe | or else get in and move around the old files, which ought to allow the new version to work. but couldn't find ~/nemo | 19:15 |
| mal | depscribe: open the rpm from openrepos using some compressed file manager or something and check what files it contains | 19:18 |
| mal | and remove all of those | 19:18 |
| depscribe | before that, i might be able to fix it if i can get into /nemo. but i see no /home. | 19:19 |
| depscribe | if i can remove the config files and create a particular empty directory in /nemo, it should boot okay | 19:20 |
| mal | depscribe: did you see home in recovery? | 19:23 |
| mal | did it mount it | 19:23 |
| depscribe | i'm back in recovery and in /home, but no nemo | 19:24 |
| mal | check mount, it might be mounted in another place | 19:31 |
| depscribe | no, it's not mounted anyplace else. | 19:37 |
| mal | maybe then remove all signs of xplanet? | 19:39 |
| depscribe | trying. wish we had normal utilities like "locate"! | 19:40 |
| mal | find? | 19:40 |
| mal | not sure how removing the service files didn't fix it | 19:40 |
| pketo | if you chroot to the rootfs, you should be able to use rpm -e to uninstall it | 19:41 |
| depscribe | rpm: invalid option -- 'e' | 19:41 |
| pketo | um... | 19:42 |
| depscribe | don't kbnow where recovery brings me, but it's not where i have access to anything useful. | 19:44 |
| mal | pketo: are there different recoveries, in addition to hybris-recovery.img | 19:46 |
| pketo | I don't know | 19:47 |
| pketo | depscribe: did you do 'chroot /rootfs' in the recovery shell? | 19:49 |
| pketo | seems that the busybox has some kind of rpm command, but that's not the one to use | 19:50 |
| depscribe | yup. am now deleting files that came in in the rpm. | 19:54 |
| depscribe | i do not frigging believe it. i have deleted every file in xplanet and xplanet-background and still, it boots to the same thing. so this mess is either in ~/nemo or in the ambiences engine | 20:05 |
| depscribe | so what do you do if sfos tries to boot into a nonexistent ambience? | 20:06 |
| depscribe | because i'm just about ready to frisbee this thing! | 20:07 |
| mal | depscribe: was the original issue incorrect config for xplanet? | 20:09 |
| depscribe | mal : i can't know for sure. except that xplanet worked fine until update, then the situation we have now. i'd guess if i could force a different ambience, it would work bit i can't | 20:14 |
| depscribe | nor can i get into /nemo at all, chroot or not | 20:14 |
| pketo | the home partition is not mounted by default in the recovery shell | 20:15 |
| depscribe | how might i mount it? | 20:16 |
| depscribe | i know the mount command, but i don't know the home partition | 20:16 |
| pketo | just a moment, I'll check | 20:16 |
| pketo | mkdir /homefs; mount /dev/sailfish/home /homefs | 20:18 |
| depscribe | special device /dev/sailfish/home does not exist. | 20:19 |
| pketo | how about /dev/mapper/sailfish-home? | 20:20 |
| depscribe | couldn't do uit from chroot, but from recovery i can. yippee! | 20:22 |
| pketo | I have no idea what that xplanet does so can't help more with that... apparently it does some weird stuff if it breaks the UI | 20:24 |
| depscribe | i think the ambience engine is waiting for something it's not getting. trick is for now to force ambience to something else. | 20:25 |
| depscribe | or so i suspect. | 20:25 |
| mal | depscribe: did you have old configs? there was a note that could break it | 20:27 |
| depscribe | i did, but the note (which i admit i only read later) didn't say they'd freeze the device, and said they could be fixed later. | 20:30 |
| depscribe | i'm looking in ~/nemo/.config/systemd/user and finding things i may or may noot want to delete | 20:31 |
| tortoisedoc | hello howdihow | 20:32 |
| depscribe | nope -- nothing there. | 20:32 |
| tortoisedoc | does someone have some knowledge on sb2 internals? | 20:32 |
| tortoisedoc | im wondering especially about the behaviour of realpath | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc | is it supposed to be mapped to /partenroot or not? | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc | s/partenroot/parentroot | 20:34 |
| mal | depscribe: maybe add back the planetx files and fix the configs? | 20:35 |
| tortoisedoc | ping martyone (noticed you from the commits on sb2) | 20:35 |
| depscribe | at this point, trying to figure out where/how to tell it to use a different ambience, from shell in ~/nemo | 20:40 |
| depscribe | alternately, to find the top menu configuration file | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc | dang | 20:48 |
| mal | depscribe: based on the scripts in xplanet rpm it uses dbus to set the ambience, so one option is to make a systemd service that would use something similar to change the ambience | 20:55 |
| depscribe | that's far above anything i know how to do. i think i've deleted all of the xplanet stuff, so it pretty much has to be the ambience engine looking for xplanet. | 21:11 |
| depscribe | any idea how to reset that? | 21:11 |
| mal | like I said, dbus, which is not available in recovery | 21:13 |
| mal | depscribe: look at the files in xplanet rpm, you can see one script with dbus commands, just change the ambience name in that and hopefully that could help | 21:13 |
| mal | you just need to find out a name for another ambience to use | 21:14 |
| depscribe | problem is i've nuked all those files and have no way to bring 'em back. | 21:14 |
| mal | sdcard? | 21:14 |
| depscribe | if i had any actual tools while shelled in, maybe, but i cannot even get an editor to work here. just a very few file manipulation commands. | 21:17 |
| depscribe | oh, for mc -- which i have installed, but it won't run here, as it would through a normal ssh | 21:17 |
| depscribe | at this point, if i could get to 2.2.18 stock i'd be happy. | 21:24 |
| mal | so sdcard is not an option for you? | 21:28 |
| mal | depscribe: one possible option is to copy some existing ambience as the xplanet ambience so it would be used | 21:29 |
| depscribe | where do ambiences live? i wondered if that might work, but i have no clue as to the mysteries of ambiences | 21:30 |
| mal | depscribe: /usr/share/ambience | 21:31 |
| mal | depscribe: check the rpm again for the exact file names to use | 21:33 |
| Martiini | is there youtube for sailfish os | 21:39 |
| depscribe | mal : did the rename, and it worked! | 21:41 |
| Martiini | obvi, I can watch youtube in a browser | 21:41 |
| depscribe | thanks very much for spending much of your sunday sorting this out. i owe you a *keg* of beer! | 21:41 |
| Martiini | depscribe, what was your prob | 21:42 |
| Martiini | you couldnt install it? | 21:42 |
| depscribe | xplanet-background upgrade caused system to halt before login screen could be accessed, so couldn't even ssh in. via recovery mode and much trial and error was able | 21:44 |
| depscribe | hours later to get in. | 21:44 |
| Martiini | ah, yes, it was, sorry | 21:44 |
| Martiini | it seems to be Finnish developed | 21:45 |
| depscribe | thanks to mal's suggestion | 21:45 |
| mal | depscribe: good to hear it worked | 21:45 |
| depscribe | me, too! | 21:45 |
| Martiini | I'm guessing, some Tampere University hackers develop Sailfish os | 21:45 |
| tortoisedoc | hm interesting | 21:51 |
| tortoisedoc | realpath is not supported by the mer sdk shell | 21:51 |
| Martiini | all software should be uploaded to GIT | 21:52 |
| Martiini | by LAW! :) | 21:52 |
| mal | depscribe: are you sure you had the latest version of xplanet installed? just wondering why it failed | 21:59 |
| Martiini | btw, do u know what sailfish is based on? it has rpm packs? | 22:01 |
| tortoisedoc | Martiini : so the LAW is M$? | 22:02 |
| tortoisedoc | you know M$ bought gitlab some time ago, right? | 22:02 |
| tortoisedoc | s/gitlab/github :OP | 22:02 |
| * tortoisedoc time to go to sleep | 22:02 | |
| Martiini | money makes the world go round | 22:04 |
| Martiini | Microsoft and USA can buy out anything | 22:04 |
| tortoisedoc | Martiini : damn right | 22:04 |
| Martiini | I like usa though, nicest girls on planet | 22:04 |
| mal | Martiini: sailfish built on top of Mer which is based on meego | 22:05 |
| Martiini | Symbian was also good,, and Nokia phones.. Dont know what happened to Symbian | 22:05 |
| Martiini | SUSE developers are also nice | 22:11 |
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