| *** frinring_ is now known as frinring | 03:53 | |
| muzilez | hi i just updated my xperia x with 2.2.1.18.. but now my keyboard is absolutely missing... i dont know how to fix. first have you an idea ? second i just tried to downgrade to 2.2.0.29 but without success , with following commands : ssu re 2.2.0.29 && version --dup . the error is ! error : File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium ' https://releases.jolla.com/features/customers/jolla/arm7hl/' can you please help me? thanks | 04:56 |
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| muzilez | it is some kind of urgent, so please let me know if you have an idea :/ i cant do anything without keyboard :( thanks in advance | 05:33 |
| muzilez | in journalctl i got this message : Sep 05 07:35:36 Sailfish mce[632]: modules/display.c: mdy_display_state_leave(): current display state = POWER_DOWN Sep 05 07:35:36 Sailfish statefs[666]: Display: "off" Sep 05 07:35:36 Sailfish lipstick[1240]: [D] unknown:0 - sleepDisplay Sep 05 07:35:36 Sailfish kernel: clearpad clearpad: (clearpad_set_irq:969) irq was disabled Sep 05 07:35:36 Sailfish kernel: mdss_dsi_panel_off: ctrl=ffffff | 05:36 |
| muzilez | this was the wrong - i am sorry | 05:37 |
| muzilez | "Sep 05 07:34:57 Sailfish kernel: clearpad clearpad: (clearpad_process_irq:4152) no work, interrupt=[0x00]" | 05:37 |
| r0kk3rz | id put the release version back and do version --dup again | 06:11 |
| r0kk3rz | downgrading isnt usually a great idea | 06:11 |
| muzilez | dup again? | 06:12 |
| muzilez | i tried several times everytime the same error | 06:12 |
| muzilez | or what do you mean | 06:12 |
| muzilez | i started now also a thread https://together.jolla.com/question/188980/sailfish-x-update-keyboard-does-not-appear-anymore/ | 06:13 |
| r0kk3rz | that 'error' probably has nothing to do with your problem | 06:13 |
| muzilez | yea it prevent to downgrade isnt it ? | 06:13 |
| muzilez | how can i update again ? --dup again ? | 06:14 |
| muzilez | ssu re 2.2.1.18 ? | 06:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 06:15 |
| muzilez | i will try again thx | 06:28 |
| Mister_Magister | o/ | 07:12 |
| *** Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass | 08:19 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi Mister_Magister | 08:44 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | hi....before I will buy Sailfish X I would like to ask if there exist something like TotalComander to connect network folders(FTP,SFTP,SAMBA) | 13:16 |
| r0kk3rz | there might be an app for such things but you dont strictly need one | 13:19 |
| Mister_Magister | other than terminal tools? | 13:19 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: there is FishNetMount a graphical mounting tool for mounting SMB/CIFS, NFS, SFTP/SSSHFS, NFSv4 | 13:20 |
| leszek | you can then use whatever filemanager you like. There is a two column one with cargo dock or a classical ones aswell | 13:20 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | to leszek: SUPER! | 13:20 |
| leszek | I'll use that all the time to mount and share files from my phone to tablet and vice versa. It saves the "remote shares" and you can easily click on them to mount or unmount them | 13:21 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | SMB/SFTP/NFS implemented is some GUI are most important for me on the phone and will be prefect if there the filemanager has two panels...same like the TotalComander (but I am sure two panels are in each such app) | 13:24 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | how it is about Skype? and LINE? | 13:25 |
| r0kk3rz | you'll need to use android apps for those | 13:30 |
| r0kk3rz | but otherwise they should work | 13:30 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | do you mean some androidApp emulator? | 13:30 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: yeah if you buy sfosx you get aliendalvik which is android emulator | 13:32 |
| r0kk3rz | its not an emulator | 13:32 |
| leszek | basically an android container | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | but yes thats one of the major points in buying a licence, is you get that | 13:33 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah but everybody says emulator so :P | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | well then everyone is wrong :P | 13:33 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah :P | 13:33 |
| Coolgeek | like wine ! | 13:33 |
| Mister_Magister | nah | 13:33 |
| Mister_Magister | i have seen systemd service more like android in chroot or smth | 13:33 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | I understand.... | 13:34 |
| leszek | exactly what I say. Its like a parallel installed android running in a "container" like environment | 13:34 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | and WPA2 Enterprise (Radius) ...works? | 13:34 |
| Mister_Magister | should be | 13:34 |
| Mister_Magister | it was added recently iirc | 13:34 |
| leszek | I think it was added. Though I never had a chance to test it | 13:35 |
| Mister_Magister | i can login to my school wifi and thats sort of enterprise so | 13:35 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | if the WPA2 Enterprise works...super! seems to be all I will need wil work in Salifish X | 13:36 |
| satmd | wpa eap-tls? | 13:36 |
| satmd | that may be "fiddly" | 13:37 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | moment I will check my phone now what protocol it is | 13:37 |
| Mister_Magister | i got lost in protocols but i can type login and password so that kind of protocol | 13:38 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | 802.11x EAP (WPA2) | 13:39 |
| Mister_Magister | you type login and password into that? | 13:39 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | yes | 13:40 |
| Mister_Magister | well that should work | 13:40 |
| leszek | in theory :) | 13:40 |
| Mister_Magister | im 70% sure | 13:40 |
| Mister_Magister | works for me if its same | 13:40 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | could anybody try it if possible? to be 100% sure :_) | 13:41 |
| * Mister_Magister wifi in x force is terrible lol but its working | 13:41 | |
| ZAJDAN_pc | what is 'x force' ? | 13:41 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: i said i dont know what protocol does my school use but i also have login and password and it 90% EAP and support for enterprise was added recently so | 13:41 |
| Mister_Magister | a phone | 13:41 |
| Mister_Magister | lets round it to "it will work" | 13:42 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | ok | 13:42 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | I can be a viction for testing :_) | 13:43 |
| leszek | You could take a look at together.jolla.com if someone asked about the support and if he/she had success with it | 13:44 |
| leszek | also asking in the telegram channel might help | 13:45 |
| * Mister_Magister laughs internally at mentioning telegram channel | 13:45 | |
| Mister_Magister | yeap my uni wifi is EAP | 13:47 |
| Mister_Magister | quote "The eduroam service uses IEEE 802.1X as the authentication method and a hierarchical system of RADIUS servers" | 13:47 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: is that what you want? | 13:47 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | now I checked what protocol we use -> WPA2 Enterprise (EAP method: PEAP) | 13:48 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah same | 13:48 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | and it is actually 802.11x ...yes | 13:49 |
| Mister_Magister | so yeah it will work | 13:49 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | super! thank guys | 13:49 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: where are you from | 13:49 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | Czech Republic (Moravia) | 13:50 |
| Mister_Magister | duck i was close | 13:50 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | what did You tip? :_) | 13:50 |
| Mister_Magister | Poland cause you look polish :P but czech isnt that far so :P | 13:51 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | polish? hmmm probably, cause my bad english | 13:51 |
| Mister_Magister | nah nah cause of name and use of super | 13:52 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | aha :_) ..it is nickname which I have got by my grandfather as young boy | 13:53 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | "aha" means: ah yes | 13:54 |
| Mister_Magister | see thats why i thought you were polish | 13:54 |
| Mister_Magister | aha/super meaning | 13:54 |
| leszek | lol we use that all the time in germany aswell :P | 13:56 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | yes...it can represent 'astonishment' and also 'agrement/understanding' | 13:56 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: you use super as in "great, awesome, yay" and in english its more used as addition to make something bigger "super cool" | 13:56 |
| Mister_Magister | never seen english guy just using "super" | 13:56 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: german no slav | 13:57 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: is my slav friend now | 13:57 |
| Mister_Magister | u no slav :P | 13:57 |
| leinir | It depends, but i've had people use it with me before :) (living in England) | 13:57 |
| satmd | regarding wpa2 eap again, it does work - right. But does it work without asking for credentials every time? Last time I tried (I have the original jolla device), it was not possible to use eap-tls without jumping loops because of the "theoretical possibility" of needing to enter credentials. | 13:57 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | yes...the SUPER ...this is something what I can not change :_) super(great/perfect/amazing, wonderful) | 13:58 |
| Mister_Magister | satmd: yep | 13:58 |
| satmd | yay \o/ | 13:58 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | but hope the native english ubderstand my meaning with the Super | 13:58 |
| Mister_Magister | i once went for kebab and there was different uni nearbay and it connected automatically and i left my wifi in car and were like "wut i have wifi?" | 13:58 |
| satmd | Then... I want to express my love for this project now and here (even if that tablet thing did not work out) | 13:58 |
| Mister_Magister | satmd: i want to express my hatered then | 13:59 |
| satmd | :( | 13:59 |
| Mister_Magister | but nobody want to listen details probably so ill have to hate it alone | 14:00 |
| Mister_Magister | in short: closed source | 14:00 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | in my case I have EAP with method PEAP...not TLS | 14:01 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: yeah yeah it will work | 14:01 |
| Mister_Magister | satmd: its like infatuation and love wheny you go through infatuation you see its faults | 14:02 |
| satmd | hm true | 14:02 |
| * Mister_Magister is waiting for his new phone | 14:03 | |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: did i thank you enough? | 14:03 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | leszek(germany)? Mister_Magister(from)? | 14:04 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | leszek...such name sounds polish | 14:05 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: oh you can guess my country already lol | 14:05 |
| leszek | Mister_Magister: thanking me for? | 14:05 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: donation | 14:05 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: i was confused with leszek too | 14:05 |
| leszek | Mister_Magister: ah yeah :) | 14:06 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: me polish (obviously at this point my slav friend) and leszek german (also obvious at this point lol) | 14:07 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | Mister_Magister I gues USA | 14:07 |
| Mister_Magister | ZAJDAN_pc: then i wouldnt be slav | 14:07 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | nice :_) | 14:07 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | maybe leszek has ancestors from poland | 14:08 |
| Mister_Magister | maybe | 14:09 |
| leszek | yep | 14:09 |
| Mister_Magister | some people there have polish roots | 14:09 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | but more than Czech I am Moravian :_) ...it is a part of czech republic | 14:09 |
| Mister_Magister | the only thing i know about czech is that they are stealing (slovakian guy told me no offence) | 14:10 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | and between czechia and moravia is big rivalry | 14:10 |
| Mister_Magister | once they were trying to steal a tank | 14:10 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | everywhere are bad people | 14:11 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | somebody told me that I will lost DRM in salifishOS....should I be afraid? | 14:15 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: you will loose the DRM keys for the camera blobs from sony | 14:16 |
| leszek | that can only be used with Android from Sony though | 14:16 |
| leszek | and they get removed if you unlock the device | 14:16 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | the DRM is something important?...it ensures some especial functions? | 14:17 |
| leszek | yeah some algorithms sony uses to enhance camera quality | 14:18 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | will be there big difference in quality between the photos from Android and SalifishOS ? | 14:19 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | do you have experiences? | 14:20 |
| tadzik | I trashed android on my xperias before taking a single picture :) No idea | 14:21 |
| leszek | oh yeah. Pretty big hit | 14:21 |
| leszek | it is a noticable difference especially as the aosp drivers used by SailfishOS aren't the best and there are even some focussing issues. So its not optimal | 14:22 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | it is shame...because the Sony Xperia X makes realy excelent photos | 14:22 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | but we can wait for new driver...not all must be perfect | 14:24 |
| leszek | I am not sure if we will get one for the old kernel and AOSP base SailfishOS uses for the Xperia X | 14:26 |
| leszek | It is not clear if we will get an update to the new AOSP base and kernel 4.4 that is suppose to improve stuff with an updated camera driver | 14:26 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | you personaly use Xperia X? or another phone | 14:28 |
| leszek | yeah the xperia x is my primary device | 14:29 |
| leszek | that said I have a bb key2 as secondary one | 14:29 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | and SONY Xperia Z5..also works with SailifishOS ? | 14:31 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | anyway I am already convinced buy Salifish X | 14:34 |
| ol | Does Xperia XA2 have better/newer camera drivers than Xperia X? | 14:40 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: no Z5 is not working with SailfishOS | 14:46 |
| leszek | ol: in theory it should as it is using the same drivers the X uses on kernel 4.4. (Might be slightly different though the sensor seems to be same) | 14:46 |
| xenu | well to be honest camera in xperia x under sailfish is *garbage* | 14:47 |
| xenu | fortunately i don't need it | 14:47 |
| xenu | but it's really bad | 14:47 |
| leszek | I've seen worse. And it was a lot worse before especially with focussing. But as long as you don't zoom in and only take a look at them on your phone they should be fine. Also close ups work far better than anything else | 14:48 |
| Mister_Magister | Thats why i hate xperia | 14:54 |
| Mister_Magister | Uga buga motorola is better | 14:54 |
| Mister_Magister | (we will see how zenfone looks) | 14:54 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | will be very good if somebody could make photo of some object with details from Android and then SailFishOS | 14:58 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | and place it on internet | 14:59 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | to we could see the difference | 14:59 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | before I will install SalisfishOS I will prepare some testing object and create a few photos from Android...then for same conditions I will do it from SailfishOS | 15:02 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: been there have done it | 15:22 |
| leszek | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEE91Hayv20 | 15:22 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | super! Thnk | 15:24 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | ufffff the diference is realy big | 15:29 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: some of the stuff in the video got fixed already though | 15:30 |
| leszek | so the button half press now focusses and AF is turned off for picture taking by default. So you need to half press or set the focus point somewhere to focus | 15:31 |
| ZAJDAN_pc | thankYOu for info | 15:34 |
| leszek | ZAJDAN_pc: also 20Mpx is the new resolution for the main camera in 2.2.1 | 15:54 |
| tadzik | oh, I missed that in release notes | 16:00 |
| rydare | is it out for real? or only EA? | 16:14 |
| mal | still EA | 16:14 |
| rydare | thanks mal | 16:15 |
| rydare | you're so helpful in here | 16:15 |
| rydare | do you work for jolla? | 16:15 |
| mal | nope | 16:15 |
| rydare | they should hire you | 16:15 |
| rydare | but then maybe you wouldn't be able to help people as much, so maybe it's best the way it is :) | 16:19 |
| taixzo | so the headphone jack on my sailfish X stopped working - it still seems to detect the cable being plugged/unplugged but no sound comes out of it anymore. How do I debug? | 16:43 |
| mal | taixzo: does the audio still come from speaker or no audio at all? | 16:49 |
| taixzo | yes, it comes from the speaker | 16:54 |
| taixzo | (when I unplug the aux cord) | 16:54 |
| taixzo | I tried rebooting, which didn't help, and verified it happens with both native apps and android apps | 16:55 |
| mal | and you are sure the cable is of correct type? | 16:55 |
| taixzo | yes. It stopped working on a cable it was working with earlier. Also tried with a different cable, a pair of headphones, and my car's aux jack, all of which I've used it with in the past. | 16:57 |
| kimmoli | did you try to adjust volume when headphones plugged in? ... | 16:58 |
| kimmoli | did you try headphones with another source? | 16:59 |
| kimmoli | well phone with different headphones kinda ruled that out propably | 16:59 |
| mal | taixzo: did that happen after updating to 2.2.1? | 17:01 |
| taixzo | ok, I just double-checked and indeed volume was all the way down. I thought I had checked that, but apparently I only checked the volume on my headphones themselves. | 17:06 |
| mal | taixzo: did that help? | 17:06 |
| taixzo | No idea why the volume suddenly set itself to zero while the music was playing though. | 17:07 |
| taixzo | Yes, it did. | 17:07 |
| mal | ok, good that there was no real bug | 17:07 |
| kimmoli | lucky guess... user error is usually the obvious one, and reboot rarely solves anything. | 17:31 |
| taixzo | kimmoli: I mean, it happened when listening to an Android app (spotify), and reboot usually solves aliendalvik problems | 17:44 |
| kimmoli | ah yes, in android land, and in tech support | 17:45 |
| piggz | frinring: ping | 18:43 |
| frinring | piggz: pong | 18:43 |
| piggz | hows your time for testing sfos / kde app? | 18:44 |
| frinring | piggz: still 0 sadly. trying to focus to get my todollist near sanity again | 18:45 |
| piggz | k | 18:45 |
| piggz | have some weir issue with kdeconnect, and wonder if it happens on official device | 18:45 |
| frinring | perhaps there are some other (plasma) users here interested to help? /me looks around into faces | 18:48 |
| piggz | frinring: if you find any, point them my way...also | 18:49 |
| tadzik | hmm, can I install some kdeconnect thing on my laptop without having the whole KDE? | 18:50 |
| piggz | tadzik: <distro package management cm> install kdeconnect-kde | 18:50 |
| tadzik | I meant to do that anyway to play with the new nice apps | 18:50 |
| piggz | i think there is a gnome daemon these days? | 18:51 |
| piggz | but, if y you install the kde version, it will only pull in whats neee | 18:51 |
| piggz | you dont need to run plasma afaik | 18:51 |
| tadzik | which of the apps is yours? | 18:51 |
| frinring | IIRC it is designed to be usable across workspaces. the mian developer even uses the Gnome Shell | 18:51 |
| piggz | btw, anyone know how to get a stacktrace on a sigsegv, at runtime, to a file ? | 18:52 |
| frinring | but if pakagers screw up, of course it will pull too much | 18:52 |
| piggz | this one https://openrepos.net/content/piggz/kde-connect | 18:52 |
| frinring | tadzik: sadly could not find any proper docs quickly, but there was an AMA on reddit recently, which has some related comments (grep for GNOME if interested in that): https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9bkcup/kde_connect_ama/ | 18:58 |
| frinring | so there is GSConnect for Gnome, which now seems to also have its own implementation of the daemon, not hust UI thingies | 18:58 |
| piggz | i would just use the kde version, notifications should integrate natively anyway | 19:02 |
| piggz | using this, but not getting an actual BT https://github.com/JPNaude/dev_notes/wiki/Produce-a-stacktrace-when-something-goes-wrong-in-your-application | 19:03 |
| tadzik | piggz: ok, I think I managed to pair things | 19:04 |
| piggz | tadzik: i expect it will loose connection ... what device do you use? | 19:05 |
| tadzik | but I tried playing with remote input and now it's a "device disconnected" | 19:05 |
| tadzik | aha :) | 19:05 |
| tadzik | xperia x | 19:05 |
| piggz | tadzik: are you on telegram? i can send you test versions | 19:06 |
| tadzik | yeah | 19:06 |
| piggz | @tadzik ? | 19:06 |
| tadzik | I think so | 19:06 |
| tadzik | yep | 19:07 |
| piggz | ok ... when I build another version I will let you know ... | 19:07 |
| tadzik | ok :) | 19:07 |
| piggz | im gonna add a load of debug messages | 19:07 |
| *** keithzg_ is now known as keithzg | 23:42 | |
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