| piggz | frinring_: hi, can I pester you for a kdeconnect review | 09:20 |
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| MrJones | hi | 15:26 |
| MrJones | is there any specific reasons why the paid terms are so vague? first year 50 bucks but then "whatever but in some form" | 15:26 |
| MrJones | it sounds like people are supposed to buy into it and then take whatever possibly expensive update contracts are gonna be made up on the spot, that's not very promising | 15:27 |
| MrJones | I mean if you're gonna take money for updates (which is fine per se), at least make the terms clear, especially with such a fresh project. very off-putting | 15:28 |
| MrJones | (referring to sailfish x) | 15:28 |
| MrJones | unless you are trying to suggest 1 year is end of life. in that case I don't see how anyone would reasonably pay for it | 15:29 |
| MrJones | and sorry if I missed something on the website, just giving you my first impression | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | the terms are vague its true | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont expect there will be an additional payment though | 15:43 |
| MrJones | r0kk3rz: then it should say so. 1 year EOL or 1 year "whatever but you know you're gonna pay" isn't a good way to sell a product | 16:04 |
| r0kk3rz | it wont be EOL either | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | the way I interpret it, is you are guaranteed a year of support, and then after that its supported as long as Jolla feels like it | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | which considering jolla has never dropped support for a device they've sold, is probably going to be a few years | 16:11 |
| MrJones | r0kk3rz: well I wasn't complaining about what they're actually doing, just that the sales pitch is abysmal | 16:13 |
| MrJones | I would have been surprised if they _actually_ planned to EOL it after 1 year | 16:13 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its not really easy to word tbh | 16:14 |
| r0kk3rz | they wont want to lock themselves into supporting it for 3 years, but they probably will anyway | 16:15 |
| MrJones | they should at least for 2. otherwise, a purchase is really unattractive | 16:15 |
| MrJones | nobody wants to make the effort to get into a niche system to be stuck on it with no updates after a year | 16:15 |
| MrJones | even something like "we can't make any promises, but plan to support it for at least around 3 years" would be infinitely better than the current text | 16:16 |
| MrJones | right now it simply has the taste of a scam, like the payment will completely change after a year | 16:20 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah 'stuck with no updates' is something that happens in android land | 16:25 |
| r0kk3rz | not here so much | 16:25 |
| MrJones | the text suggests otherwise.. :/ but I'm repeating myself | 16:25 |
| MrJones | it sounds a bit like either 1 year EOL or "oops sudden RHEL pricing" | 16:26 |
| r0kk3rz | its open to interpretation sure | 16:27 |
| MrJones | are any official people here at times at all? or am I just telling this to the completely wrong crowd | 16:28 |
| r0kk3rz | sometimes | 16:32 |
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