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| r0kk3rz | nh1402[m]: could we butcher this to get a minimal UI? - https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/tree/master/mobile/android/chrome/geckoview | 09:00 |
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| nh1402[m] | r0kk3rz: I thought the link between the geckoview and the Android UI was done via the NDK | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | probably | 09:10 |
| r0kk3rz | but i was more thinking thats a minimalist window chrome definition | 09:10 |
| r0kk3rz | the geckoview itself seems to have a lot of java attached to it | 09:11 |
| nh1402[m] | we could try, but tbh I don't know where to start in there | 09:19 |
| r0kk3rz | neither | 09:20 |
| nh1402[m] | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/JNI.jsm | 09:38 |
| nh1402[m] | i don't know why i posted that, it doesn't seem to be relevant | 09:52 |
| nh1402[m] | r0kk3rz: got any ideas? | 10:50 |
| r0kk3rz | always | 10:53 |
| nh1402[m] | there is this https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla but then it wouldn't be any different to the Sailfish browser | 10:56 |
| nh1402[m] | servo seems to be compatible with Wayland again though | 10:56 |
| nh1402[m] | I mean there seems to be an issue with the window frame, but we wouldn't have that in Sailfish, so that's not a problem I don't think | 10:57 |
| r0kk3rz | that looks really old | 10:58 |
| r0kk3rz | like theres a note to use xulrunner instead of that, and afaik xulrunner itself is deprecated | 10:58 |
| nh1402[m] | yes | 10:58 |
| r0kk3rz | thats where all the work that the jolla guys maintain, having an embedding api for gecko | 10:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you want to do things like that, then work on sailfish-browser | 11:02 |
| nh1402[m] | so did building firefox not work then? | 11:04 |
| r0kk3rz | i havent tried yet | 11:04 |
| r0kk3rz | geez | 11:04 |
| nh1402[m] | it sounded like you gave up with that | 11:06 |
| r0kk3rz | no? why did you get that idea? | 11:07 |
| nh1402[m] | because you suggested a different approach | 11:11 |
| nh1402[m] | I was jumping to conclusions | 11:11 |
| r0kk3rz | you're the one talking about embedding apis | 11:15 |
| nh1402[m] | yes | 11:23 |
| tadzik | gawd, I hope the coloured emojis will be disablable when they come | 17:18 |
| r0kk3rz | probably not | 17:21 |
| Tazy | Extra keyboard layout. | 17:21 |
| tadzik | well, I assume that when they come to keyboard layouts, they'll come system-wide too. Right now they're monochromatic so they don't look like absolute ass | 17:22 |
| Tazy | I hoped for Unicode Emoji tbh. | 17:22 |
| tadzik | are there other emojis? | 17:22 |
| Tazy | Yes, you find a bunch in android with japanese keyboard layouts. (aosp even) | 17:24 |
| tadzik | huh, I thought it's unicode's invention | 17:26 |
| fledermaus | nnwwell. the original emoji block, er, originated in japanese mobile operator charsets. | 17:27 |
| fledermaus | the recent stuff is I believe just the uniconsortium running wild. | 17:27 |
| haduken | Hello i found some interesting things. | 18:50 |
| haduken | PPSSPP emulator runs equally fast under SFOS+Dalvik as under Android | 18:50 |
| haduken | on omap4 | 18:51 |
| r0kk3rz | thats not that interesting | 18:52 |
| haduken | how does dalvik get 'native' speeds including gles acceleration through dalvik? | 18:53 |
| haduken | alein dalvik | 18:53 |
| NeKit | it uses native driver for gles | 18:54 |
| haduken | ty | 18:54 |
| haduken | when you use the terminal to ssh to a pc, does the cursor not match where the insert point is? | 18:55 |
| haduken | when i move around on a bash command line, the cursor is 3 characters to the right of the actual insert point | 18:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah fingerterm is a bit unmaintained | 18:56 |
| haduken | NeKit: do you have a keyboard map with ctrl and alt for droid 4? | 18:57 |
| fledermaus | haduken: have you got high unicode characters in your ptompt? | 19:34 |
| fledermaus | prompt | 19:34 |
| fledermaus | eg 3 byte ones. | 19:34 |
| fledermaus | (3 byte in utf-8) | 19:35 |
| fledermaus | (random guess) | 19:35 |
| haduken | eh um i need to check | 19:35 |
| haduken | not consciously, but that's an interesting theory fledermaus - ty | 19:36 |
| haduken | you do not have this problem? | 19:36 |
| NeKit | haduken, what SFOS version do you have on Droid 4? | 19:36 |
| fledermaus | Ihaven't noticed it but lemme check. | 19:36 |
| haduken | dunno, uname -a sys sailfish 3.0.8-g1a6c8d9 | 19:38 |
| fledermaus | haduken: the cursor is appearing one to the left, ie on top of the character just input and echoed back. | 19:38 |
| fledermaus | whether or not I'm ssh'd to another host. | 19:38 |
| haduken | ok fledermaus ty | 19:39 |
| haduken | that is what i get also | 19:39 |
| haduken | but on my ssh connection it's far off - 3 chars or so | 19:39 |
| fledermaus | I don't get that. | 19:39 |
| fledermaus | try moving your .bashrc etc out of the way temporarily on the remote, see if it's to do with your prompt. | 19:39 |
| fledermaus | typically this happens when there are characters in your prompt that are either multi-byte or supposed to be invisible control sequences and the terminal doesn't realise this | 19:40 |
| haduken | that did it fledermaus | 19:40 |
| haduken | it must have been the prompt | 19:40 |
| haduken | ffs, now the phone died again suddenly despite being on power | 19:41 |
| haduken | "battery low shutting down' | 19:42 |
| haduken | what happened to all the maemo people | 19:43 |
| haduken | why aren't they all using droid 4 | 19:43 |
| haduken | NeKit: maybe russian government can sponsor you | 19:44 |
| NeKit | why would it | 19:45 |
| NeKit | even SailfishOS RUS is targeted for corporate market and is a commercial (not state-funded I mean) project | 19:46 |
| haduken | oh | 19:47 |
| haduken | is there a patch for the keyboard/ | 19:48 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure lots of maemo people dont like sailfish | 19:48 |
| haduken | well there haven't been enough enthusiasts porting things | 19:49 |
| haduken | maemo had about 20x the activity | 19:49 |
| haduken | but the droid 4 is the logical next step | 19:50 |
| haduken | 2x 1.2ghz cpu, 1GB ram | 19:50 |
| haduken | much much better keyboard | 19:50 |
| haduken | 1080p video | 19:50 |
| NeKit | haduken, Maemo Leste project is working on Droid 4 as well though | 19:51 |
| haduken | what are advantages of maemo leste NeKit ? | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | its fully open sores | 19:52 |
| NeKit | I didn't say it's better or worse, just an example of what Maemo people are doing | 19:53 |
| haduken | is there a safer browser to run javascript-evil in? | 19:53 |
| NeKit | (but it's in development stage and not ready for general use compared to Sailfish) | 19:53 |
| haduken | ok | 19:55 |
| haduken | how many hours did it take you to port sailfish to droid 4 NeKit ? | 19:55 |
| NeKit | not that much compared to some devices, but it still needs some tweaks and fixes... | 19:56 |
| haduken | 100 hours? | 19:56 |
| NeKit | oh, and sorry, but the channel to discuss ported devices is #sailfishos-porters | 19:56 |
| haduken | ok | 19:56 |
| haduken | i began using your port a lot more now since bad injury | 19:57 |
| haduken | cannot use laptop | 19:57 |
| haduken | not for long | 19:57 |
| haduken | but with the phone i can lie on my back and type | 19:58 |
| haduken | now this is a very serious haptic issue | 19:58 |
| haduken | for myself and probably many people who are sick | 19:58 |
| NeKit | auch, that's bad | 19:58 |
| haduken | the bad part is the pain is too great for me to program | 19:59 |
| haduken | but i think the droid 4 type device could be a thing to make for sick people | 19:59 |
| haduken | something to type on when in hospital or bed | 19:59 |
| haduken | these kind of things can get funding | 20:00 |
| NeKit | Droid 4 is too old device itself, but lack of recent QWERTY sliders is pretty saddening | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | the race to the bottom must be finishing soon, so we can get back to more differentiation between devices | 20:03 |
| haduken | too old? | 20:12 |
| haduken | dual 1.2ghz cpu,1GB ram | 20:12 |
| haduken | it is insanely fast | 20:12 |
| haduken | of course the evil worms of webdesign can cripple that | 20:12 |
| haduken | i can cripple anything with malware | 20:13 |
| Mister_Magister | i once made 600Mhz 512MB ram for proof of concept | 20:13 |
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