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| Venemo | good morning | 07:20 |
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| dcaliste_ | chriadam_, jpetrell, hello. Sorry to be late. I was thinking that I was going to be able to attempt, but I'm travelling and it's a mess at the Eurostar terminal. I think I can stay online up to 10am. | 07:20 |
| dcaliste_ | Hello Venemo! | 07:20 |
| Venemo | dcaliste_: I saved your links from the last session but haven't had the time yet to take a serious look. But I will definitely look at your stuff once I'm done with some currently pressing things | 07:22 |
| Venemo | where are you travelling, btw? | 07:22 |
| dcaliste_ | I'm going to Cambridge, for a conference on materials for energy. | 07:23 |
| dcaliste_ | From my side, I've begun to implement a crypto plugin based on gpgme. | 07:23 |
| chriadam_ | good morning dcaliste_ | 07:23 |
| dcaliste_ | Hello Chris, nice to see you, hope you're fine. | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | just a heads up: in the next couple of days some changes are likely to be made to the plugin API | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | we're refactoring some stuff | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | shouldn't be huge changes but just fyi | 07:24 |
| dcaliste_ | I've got an API question by the way. | 07:24 |
| jpetrell | hi | 07:24 |
| dcaliste_ | gpgme allow to have multi signers. | 07:24 |
| dcaliste_ | Hello jpetrell. | 07:24 |
| dcaliste_ | And I guess multi destination key when encrypting. How can we handle that in sailfish secret? | 07:25 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste_: the Collection should have NoAccessControl semantics (i.e. anyone can use it) and most likely AccessRelock semantics (to require user to verify every time they wish to sign something) | 07:27 |
| chriadam_ | what do you mean by "multidestination"? | 07:27 |
| chriadam_ | ah by multisigners I guess you mean somethign else? like, require multiple keys to sign? | 07:28 |
| dcaliste_ | I mean that key a and b and c can sign a message. | 07:28 |
| dcaliste_ | at once. | 07:28 |
| Venemo | all of them? or any of them? | 07:28 |
| chriadam_ | mm. this is not a use case I was aware of | 07:28 |
| chriadam_ | maybe we need the concept of a "compound key" which refers to multiple other keys... | 07:29 |
| Venemo | does this need to be supported in the 1st version? | 07:29 |
| dcaliste_ | I don't know if it's often use though. | 07:29 |
| dcaliste_ | Venemo: no no need. | 07:29 |
| dcaliste_ | But need to think about it for API reason. | 07:29 |
| Venemo | currently the API is not capable of this, but I would say let's add a new API for this use case later | 07:32 |
| dcaliste_ | As you decide. | 07:33 |
| Venemo | this is just a suggestion | 07:34 |
| dcaliste_ | I'm checking, and yes, encryption is done also for multi recipients : https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gpgme/Encrypting-a-Plaintext.html#Encrypting-a-Plaintext | 07:34 |
| dcaliste_ | See the key array in arguments. | 07:35 |
| Venemo | dcaliste_: so basically it signs in such a way that any of the keys can verify it? | 07:35 |
| dcaliste_ | Yes, that's it. | 07:35 |
| dcaliste_ | Pratical when sending a mail with CC. | 07:35 |
| Venemo | I see. | 07:35 |
| Venemo | in other news: signing has been improved in sailfish-secrets and can be used from QML too, though it is not yet ready for the email signing use case | 07:36 |
| dcaliste_ | Good, I've seen your PRs. | 07:37 |
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| dcaliste_ | I'm going to pass the border control. I'll be back in some 10 minutes I guess. Sorry. | 07:42 |
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| Venemo | no problem | 07:42 |
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| dcaliste_ | Ok, back on-line. As said, I'm implementing a gpgme-based crypto plugin. I'm going to submit a WIP MR today or tomorrow. | 08:14 |
| chriadam_ | welcome back | 08:14 |
| chriadam_ | we won't get a chance to look at it this week | 08:14 |
| chriadam_ | unfortunately | 08:14 |
| dcaliste_ | No problem, you will give feedback when time allows for.. | 08:15 |
| chriadam_ | this week we're in a rush to get everything ready before branching, and next week we've got tasks like docs/unit tests/code cleanup etc | 08:15 |
| chriadam_ | after next week I hope things will return to more normal | 08:15 |
| dcaliste_ | It's not a big necessity having this plugin now. Good chance for this pile of work! | 08:16 |
| chriadam_ | yes, fingers crossed we get everything done | 08:16 |
| chriadam_ | ;-) | 08:16 |
| chriadam_ | that reminds me: caldav/carddav meeting? I haven't had a chance to look at any tasks in that domain at all, unfortunately... | 08:17 |
| chriadam_ | so if you have also been working on other things, we can just postpone the meeting until next month | 08:17 |
| dcaliste_ | One additional question on the API, the plugin should properlly declare the algos I guess for the operation to proceed for a key declaring this algo? | 08:17 |
| dcaliste_ | For CalDAV, from my side, we can postpone. | 08:17 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste_: the API is changing, we don't require plugins to programmatically declare the supported algorithms any more | 08:18 |
| dcaliste_ | 2.1.4 has the latest patches and hopefully there is no bad feedback from it. | 08:18 |
| chriadam_ | see https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-secrets/pull/47 and https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-secrets/pull/58 for some changes there | 08:18 |
| chriadam_ | some other minor changes are coming in teh next two days, also, once I finish this big refactor... | 08:18 |
| dcaliste_ | Ok, for the algos, so I'll just leave empty shell for compilation purposes. | 08:18 |
| dcaliste_ | Waiting for the PR to be merged. | 08:19 |
| chriadam_ | yep. Client can use AlgorithmCustom if it's not a well-known algorithm type | 08:20 |
| chriadam_ | and any "extra" parameters needed can be passed via the customParameters QVariantMap | 08:20 |
| dcaliste_ | I mean, from what I've understood, the algo is attached to the key with the SetAlgorithm() routine. Then when sign() is called, the passed key contains the algo. Which anyway is transparent for gpgme because we don't specify the algo it is attached to the key also. | 08:22 |
| chriadam_ | yes, that's basically correct | 08:23 |
| dcaliste_ | I was just wondering if the daemon allow the plugin to indeed call sign() if the algo is not declared. | 08:23 |
| chriadam_ | with the recent refactoring, we will allow that (basically, we require the plugin to do any checks it needs to about that) | 08:23 |
| dcaliste_ | From my plugin point of view, it's quite simple I guess: the key is just identified by the identifier and I fetch the gpgme associated key. Then use it to sign. Return false if key is not found. | 08:25 |
| chriadam_ | yep :-) | 08:25 |
| dcaliste_ | It matches well with storedKeyIdentifiers() which returns the list of identifiers known to the plugin. | 08:25 |
| dcaliste_ | So I'll continue to work on this and hopefully propose a simple QML demo based on Venemo PR in let say a two to three weeks time frame. | 08:27 |
| Venemo | sounds awesome | 08:27 |
| chriadam_ | thanks very much dcaliste_ | 08:28 |
| dcaliste_ | There will be two plugins, one for OpenPGP protocol and one for S/MIME, basically based on the same gpgme backend, since gpgme is already an abstraction. | 08:29 |
| dcaliste_ | chriadam_ and Venemo: if I have additional questions I'll contact you in the coming days. | 08:30 |
| chriadam_ | sounds good, thanks. As I said, next few days there'll probably be lots of changes merged into master | 08:30 |
| chriadam_ | after that it will settle down a bit | 08:30 |
| dcaliste_ | I'll follow the PRs closely and keep my master up to date. | 08:31 |
| chriadam_ | :-) | 08:32 |
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| present | Helloooooo | 11:39 |
| present | I'm setting up the mer buildengine with OSC. | 11:39 |
| present | I get "BuildService API error: can't verify packages due to lack of GPG keys" | 11:40 |
| chriadam_ | lbt- might be able to help ^ | 11:45 |
| present | chriadam_ I get some more errors even with --no-verify furthermore :/ | 11:46 |
| lbt- | I think you need to trust the project | 11:47 |
| lbt- | it has been a long time since I've used osc - and that was an old version too | 11:47 |
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| present | lbt- I already have a configuration line to trust sailfishos | 11:49 |
| present | trusted_prj=... | 11:50 |
| lbt- | has it ever worked? | 11:50 |
| present | First time setting up | 11:50 |
| lbt- | are you using the sailfish sdk? | 11:50 |
| lbt- | and also ... why are you using osc | 11:51 |
| lbt- | because that's quite unusual | 11:51 |
| present | I used to play with sb2 but my machine is not good enough to build | 11:52 |
| present | So I needed to try the mer buildengine | 11:52 |
| lbt- | you mean the OBS ? | 11:52 |
| present | yes | 11:52 |
| lbt- | ok - so that doesn't need osc either | 11:52 |
| present | Ok so is there a link I should follow? :) | 11:53 |
| lbt- | that uses a git repo and then you setup a webhook | 11:53 |
| lbt- | then each time you push a tag to your repo it sends an https to the webhook. The webhook server puts the newly tagged code on the OBS and it builds | 11:54 |
| present | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Packaging/webhooks | 11:54 |
| present | k | 11:54 |
| lbt- | good - glad you found it :) | 11:54 |
| present | lbt- Thanks! :) | 11:55 |
| lbt- | please correct that page if you find any problems | 11:55 |
| present | Need to remove osc now :P | 11:55 |
| present | ok | 11:55 |
| lbt- | if you do that then I'll help if you need it - deal? | 11:55 |
| present | yep :) | 11:55 |
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| lbt- | thanks :) | 11:55 |
| * lbt- goes back to work ... | 11:56 | |
| r0kk3rz | osc ise useful though, i wish i could get it to work :P | 11:58 |
| present | I'm on this page also https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_Installation | 12:05 |
| present | Trying to look for the wh script | 12:06 |
| r0kk3rz | thats long gone i think | 12:06 |
| r0kk3rz | its not hard to set up manually though | 12:06 |
| present | If i knew what to setup ^^ | 12:08 |
| present | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Packaging/webhooks => wh does not exist? and osc should not be used? | 12:08 |
| present | "You must have a Mer account and have osc setup before you can use the wh utility. " | 12:08 |
| r0kk3rz | i wrote a guide ages ago, it should probably be put on the wiki really - http://sailfishwayfarer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/building-apps-with-merobs-and-github.html | 12:09 |
| present | r0kk3rz gonna try this! :) | 12:10 |
| present | thx | 12:11 |
| * lbt- notes that you should be using the Mer (or SFOS) SDK. wh is provided by the sdk-utils package. osc must work with the API ... so osc ls mer:core should work | 12:17 | |
| lbt- | (I forgot wh used osc :D ) | 12:17 |
| r0kk3rz | osc used to work at one point, i remember using it | 12:18 |
| r0kk3rz | its great for local builds instead of smashing the server | 12:19 |
| present | Great! Worked like a charm! (or so) | 12:22 |
| present | I just need to change the client secret for the buidl to work :P | 12:22 |
| present | r0kk3rz: the bot is only looking for the rpm directory? | 12:25 |
| present | I need to understand how it would work if I retrieve a webengine archive | 12:26 |
| r0kk3rz | thats tar_git | 12:26 |
| r0kk3rz | you can use a straight archive if you wanted | 12:27 |
| r0kk3rz | ive hacked stuff together by just uploading an archive and editing the .spec through the webui | 12:27 |
| present | r0kk3rz: Do you have an example of a package with patches I can check? | 12:31 |
| present | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/kde:stable:apps/TabletReader | 12:32 |
| present | Shoud be ok | 12:32 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats it | 12:33 |
| present | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:jgueytat/UnofficialSpotify/_service?expand=1 | 12:36 |
| present | I have two services | 12:36 |
| present | webhook and tar_git | 12:36 |
| present | Is it normal? | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | webhook is github -> obs, tar_git is obs -> github, more or less | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i often dont bother with webhooks and just use tar_git with manual triggering | 12:38 |
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| present | r0kk3rz: There isn't any structure to follow? Where should be the *.spec file in the repo? Otherwise I just keep the rpm directory? | 12:40 |
| r0kk3rz | usually we have it in an rpm directory | 12:41 |
| present | k | 12:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | rainemak: ping | 13:20 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Hey | 13:24 |
| zebbiz_pi | I have an app that's installed from github https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish | 13:25 |
| zebbiz_pi | Now I want to update it | 13:25 |
| zebbiz_pi | Do I need to reinstall? | 13:25 |
| zebbiz_pi | Or just run the rpm file and that'll update it? | 13:25 |
| r0kk3rz | just run the file | 13:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | alternatively, that looks like its being built on obs | 13:29 |
| zebbiz_pi | Thanks | 13:29 |
| zebbiz_pi | obs? | 13:29 |
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| zebbiz_pi | It worked, thanks | 13:36 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm maybe not, i cant seem to find it anyway | 13:37 |
| zebbiz_pi | Yeah, it's not on openrepos | 13:39 |
| zebbiz_pi | only github | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | openrepos is not obs | 13:40 |
| zebbiz_pi | Do you mean this? https://build.merproject.org/project/list_public | 13:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah | 13:45 |
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| jef91 | are there any native SailfishOS twitter clients that have been updated to support the new 280 character limit? | 14:37 |
| leszek | jef91: piepmatz | 14:37 |
| jef91 | Also where to most sailfish apps install to by default? pyrrha keeps crashing on me and wsnt to debug it | 14:38 |
| jef91 | leszek that in the store or open repos? | 14:38 |
| leszek | it should be in both | 14:38 |
| r0kk3rz | just run harbour-pyrrha by terminal then | 14:38 |
| leszek | jef91: pyrrha has its config in ~/.config and other files in ~/.local/share that you can safely remove it you still know your login credentials | 14:39 |
| jef91 | harbour-pyrrha doesn't exist | 14:41 |
| leszek | sailfish-qml harbour-pyrrha | 14:44 |
| leszek | apparently only qml | 14:44 |
| jef91 | Thanks. That got it going. | 14:46 |
| jef91 | wow piepmatz seems great | 14:47 |
| jef91 | might be able to stop using Android Twitter | 14:47 |
| jef91 | Is there any way to sync firefox or chrome bookmarks and history with a native sailfish browser? | 14:48 |
| leszek | firefox stuff should work manually by copying over places.sqlite I guess. But I never tried that yet | 14:49 |
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| jef91 | Ahh I'm looking for automatic sync like Chrome and Firefox do with the android versions | 14:51 |
| jef91 | It's been awhile since I looked, but Facebook chat is closed off and only works via their messenger these days right? | 14:53 |
| leszek | there is no syncing feature for bookmarks available by default | 14:54 |
| leszek | webcat has a backup manager which you can run manually and sync the stuff over to other SFOS devices running SailfishOS | 14:55 |
| leszek | If I want to share a link over to my browser on my desktop I use kdeconnect. Though I only have linux machines here. So not sure if you can do the same | 14:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | pvuorela: to be exact 517M twitterNotifications.db-wal | 16:24 |
| stephg | Mister_Magister: oof | 16:26 |
| Mister_Magister | removed that | 16:26 |
| stephg | such size, very dimensions, wow etc. | 16:26 |
| Mister_Magister | ? | 16:26 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a lot of twattr | 16:31 |
| stephg | actaully now that's the translogs | 16:37 |
| stephg | such length, many replay etc. | 16:38 |
| stephg | r0kk3rz: which continent are you in irl? | 16:38 |
| stephg | (today, I dun had beer) | 16:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | stephg: is the uk a continent? | 16:42 |
| r0kk3rz | i got back yesterday | 16:42 |
| stephg | r0kk3rz as of march 29th next if you believe the press | 16:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | it should be a battleship | 16:44 |
| stephg | r0kk3rz: welcome back! | 16:44 |
| r0kk3rz | with sails and everything | 16:44 |
| stephg | hehe | 16:44 |
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