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| nh1402[m] | yeeey https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/ | 07:39 |
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| nh1402[m] | :| | 07:40 |
| tbr | I'm surprised it took them so long | 07:46 |
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| tadzik | from my experience with aquafish, it's been a thing for a long time | 07:55 |
| r0kk3rz | like, the last year or so? | 07:57 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure theres some tjc timestamps about it | 07:57 |
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| nh1402[m] | tadzik: I have a theory about that. | 08:32 |
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| nh1402[m] | I think I could get it working, on the Xperia X | 08:34 |
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| DylanVanAssche | lbt: Are you the guy for Git and OBS accounts? | 09:02 |
| r0kk3rz | DylanVanAssche: pm him account details | 09:06 |
| DylanVanAssche | r0kk3rz: Done :) | 09:09 |
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| Armadillo | Hm, I can't comment to the store: Request user does not own the device. | 09:26 |
| Armadillo | My device is listed in my account, but as f5121 instead of f5122. | 09:26 |
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| Armadillo | Maybe some normal side effect for f5122 dual sim users? | 09:28 |
| r0kk3rz | Armadillo: did you own a f5121? | 09:30 |
| Armadillo | no | 09:30 |
| r0kk3rz | you might want to talk to pketo about the store issue, but listing as f5121 is fine if you flashed f5121 image | 09:32 |
| Armadillo | the problem could be, that the device owns two IMEIs and only the second one has been stored, but anyway, I'll ask her/him | 09:34 |
| Armadillo | thanks r0kk3rz | 09:34 |
| mal | Armadillo: how was the image built? is that some community image? | 09:35 |
| Armadillo | No, it's the official image for 5122 | 09:35 |
| Armadillo | erm 5121 | 09:36 |
| r0kk3rz | mal: pretty sure people just flash the f5121 image, nobody ever built a proper f5122 build iirc | 09:36 |
| r0kk3rz | Armadillo: second one you say? interesting, i wonder if they swapped | 09:37 |
| Armadillo | yes, the second one from the list of the "QAbout | 09:37 |
| Armadillo | About product | 09:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | when did you activate the second sim? after logging in with jolla account? | 09:42 |
| Armadillo | I think I added both sims before the first boot. But to be honest I'm not sure, it was in d december. :) | 09:44 |
| mal | Armadillo: then then that explains why it's shown as 5121, the image was built for that so it shows as one | 09:44 |
| Armadillo | mal Understood. Is there a way to get that fixed? | 09:47 |
| mal | building a proper image? | 09:47 |
| r0kk3rz | Armadillo: isnt there something you have you do on the device to enable the second sim? it wont have the configs by default | 09:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | and iirc theres a property you set | 09:50 |
| Armadillo | that's correct | 09:50 |
| Armadillo | install the multisim package and edit some files | 09:51 |
| r0kk3rz | ah you need a package | 09:52 |
| Armadillo | But I assume the issue is more like "Hey I have two IMIEs sent for that comment and I always take the first one." while the device registering maybe relied on the last imei. | 09:52 |
| Armadillo | So you finally get a mismatch. | 09:52 |
| Armadillo | the package mainly is for the GUI I think. | 09:53 |
| r0kk3rz | except when the device was first registered there wasnt two imeis :) | 09:55 |
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| Armadillo | maybe :) | 09:59 |
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| Armadillo | This would be a minor problem if the store won't be the only way to communicate with the users of my apps. :/ | 10:01 |
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| mal | Armadillo: so what exactly is the problem with the device showing as the other device? | 10:05 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: store doesn't care about dual-sim, it only uses the build-time device codename | 10:06 |
| r0kk3rz | mal: it does since sailfish x | 10:07 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: I don't really understand what you mean | 10:08 |
| mal | why would store need both imeis when one is enough | 10:09 |
| r0kk3rz | it probably doesnt | 10:09 |
| r0kk3rz | but which one it has stored is another question | 10:09 |
| mal | I would assume the first one | 10:10 |
| r0kk3rz | as would i | 10:10 |
| r0kk3rz | so why then, is Armadillo saying its the second sim IMEI that is showing up | 10:11 |
| mal | I never checked which one is shown for fp2 | 10:12 |
| r0kk3rz | unless something screwy went on because that image isnt set up properly out of the box | 10:12 |
| mal | Armadillo: so you see 2 imeis in settings and it's the second one that is shown in output of "ssu s"? | 10:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | i would expect its the first once, hence the problem | 10:18 |
| r0kk3rz | *one | 10:18 |
| mal | I still don't understand the problem | 10:18 |
| mal | the one in store is the one that is show in ssu s | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | the problem is the store isnt recognising the device | 10:20 |
| mal | at all? | 10:21 |
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| Armadillo | mal first one shows up on "ssu s" and second one in Jolla account, both in "About product" in the settings app | 10:38 |
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| mal | Armadillo: and it still shows the same if you register the device again? | 10:38 |
| Armadillo | one moment, I'll try that | 10:39 |
| pketo | yeah, it probably has registered the account with the second imei for some reason, but is now using the first one with store so that gets confused | 10:43 |
| pketo | normally it always takes the first, but if you did the dual sim fixes after registering the account, that might have changed it | 10:44 |
| Armadillo | ok | 10:44 |
| Armadillo | I just tried to register again with ssu, but I get an error two seconds after starting ssu: "Unexpected reply signature: got \"\", expected \"a{sv}\"" | 10:45 |
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| Armadillo | and finally a "Host requires authentication" | 10:45 |
| Armadillo | I never used ssu before, anything I have to take care of? | 10:46 |
| pketo | ah, sorry, don't register with ssu, I meant the normal jolla account sign-in | 10:52 |
| Armadillo | oh ok | 10:53 |
| pketo | so, remove account from settings and add it again | 10:53 |
| Armadillo | on my way :) | 10:54 |
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| Armadillo | pketo great, that worked, thanks! :) | 10:58 |
| Armadillo | comments work, too | 10:58 |
| Armadillo | now I have two f5121 in the accounts site :D | 10:58 |
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| Armadillo | mal r0kk3rz thanks for your help :) | 10:59 |
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| rubdos | Is it possible to configure sailfish that it doesn't interupt/silence music playback when a notification happens? | 11:52 |
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| rubdos | aha, there's a tjc question: https://together.jolla.com/question/37387/music-playback-is-interrupted-if-a-notification-occurs-while-notification-volume-is-muted/ | 11:53 |
| rubdos | nvm then | 11:53 |
| rubdos | I tend to Google for SailfishOS instead of Jolla... | 11:55 |
| rubdos | then it doesn't find anything useful | 11:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | changes merged | 12:26 |
| tortoisedoc | :) | 12:26 |
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| Kabouik | Are there any projects in development for split screen/tiling different applications? A friend of mine, who happens to be a Jolla hater just because I use Jolla and he wants to fight, is teasing me with a screenshot of his Android phone tiling two applications being used at the same time. This is not new, I know, but there used to be a time when Sailfish provided a better multitasking experience than nay Android flavour, and tiling may be a game | 12:47 |
| Kabouik | changer on big screen devices. | 12:47 |
| Kabouik | I'm not talking about all the privacy and/or UI features, that I prefer with Sailfish, of course. But I'm curious about multitasking slowly getting better on Android. | 12:48 |
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| andrewalker | Kabouik: IIRC there is an ongoing community project to implement that | 13:08 |
| andrewalker | not sure the status though, probably very initial | 13:09 |
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| Kabouik | Oh, there's some hope then andrewalker. Would you know the name of the project so I can read more about it? | 13:23 |
| andrewalker | Kabouik: there's some information here: https://together.jolla.com/question/179218/picture-in-picture-split-screen-multitasking-meeting-planning/ | 13:25 |
| andrewalker | you can join the meeting this Thursday and find out more :) | 13:25 |
| Kabouik | Thanks. I see there's a meeting soon yes, should join it. | 13:26 |
| Kabouik | Thanks a lot. Hope it'll work, seems very early in development though | 13:26 |
| Kabouik | http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2018/mer-meeting.2018-03-07-09.00.log.html The last meeting lasted 189 seconds in total though, not very encouraging | 13:28 |
| andrewalker | haha, oops | 13:28 |
| andrewalker | maybe this time it will have better progress? :) | 13:29 |
| Kabouik | It seems to be limited by the closed source of Silica though, and the meetings are about the concept more than any real development or coding task | 13:30 |
| nh1402[m] | meeting is on this Thursday | 13:31 |
| nh1402[m] | Kabouik: implementation will be done on nemo glacier | 13:32 |
| Kabouik | I see, yes | 13:32 |
| Kabouik | I really hope it works, I'm very frustrating when my friends using Android actually have a better multitasking experience than I have | 13:32 |
| Kabouik | Jolla had a significant advance on that field, but Android caught up and actually went further now | 13:33 |
| Kabouik | frustrated* | 13:33 |
| taaem | But on a normal phone screen multi window is not really practical, far easier to quick switch between apps | 13:33 |
| Kabouik | Not necessarily, it really depends on what apps we're talking about | 13:33 |
| taaem | I never use that on my main android phone and that even got one of these suer wide 18:9 screens | 13:34 |
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| Kabouik | The text or any chat app, for instance, really are just as useful with just half the screen, and same with terminal, emails, notes, settings, a lot of miscellaneous Android apps, etc. Even some web pages are quite ok on half the screen (~squared ratio) | 13:35 |
| taaem | But when you're actually writing split screen is only in the way | 13:36 |
| taaem | But maybe our behavior differs | 13:36 |
| taaem | I like to do one thing after another | 13:36 |
| taaem | But jolla is improving the quick app switching with 3.0 | 13:37 |
| taaem | So thats a plus for multitasking | 13:37 |
| Kabouik | If I'm chatting with someone, I like to have a permanent access to it to see if something was said. Chatting could be updated every few seconds, and yet I may want to read my emails or finish my note or browse my music player or podcasts while keeping an eye on the chat, or even replying | 13:37 |
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| Kabouik | While I love the app switcher of Jolla, in these use cases, you would end up switching ten times every 15 seconds, it gets old and you end up just focusing on one thing one after the other and not really multitasking anymore | 13:39 |
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| Kabouik | of Sailfish*, not Jolla | 13:39 |
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| nh1402[m] | but the other thing is there isn't proper space on phone screens to do a lot | 13:50 |
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| Kabouik | That's not my opinion, but I suppose it really depends on people and what they use their phone with | 13:53 |
| Kabouik | I think the screen of my Jolla C is already large enough for anything but watching movies/reading the web with all comfort, and actually too big for all other uses | 13:53 |
| Kabouik | Except if tiling applications | 13:53 |
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| Kabouik | For instance I would use Webcat's splitview very often for web + chat (my main chat is a mattermost server, so it can be accessed from the web) if it was more responsive | 13:56 |
| Kabouik | Being a web browser, of course it's not responsive and that is the reason why I barely use it. But when I tried it, I was pretty satisfied with the size of both windows | 13:57 |
| Kabouik | Plus it's limited to just web pages, of course, tiling applications would be more flexible and allow tiling applications that really don't need much space, like a music player or news reader | 13:58 |
| nh1402[m] | what do you mean by tiling? | 14:07 |
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| Kabouik | Sorry I did not see your message nh1402[m], I meant this: https://s14-eu5.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Ftechviral.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F10%2FRun-the-Same-App-in-Split-Screen-in-Android-Oreo.jpg&sp=b35ff42f2d8cf421866702157e57c75a | 16:25 |
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| Kabouik | It is probably called split screen instead. | 16:26 |
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| rubdos | Is it somehow possible that my Moto Z Play uses aptX when connecting to my bluetooth headsets? I feel like the sound quality is a lot better than through A2DP over my laptop | 17:12 |
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