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| chriadam__ | hi dcaliste | 08:04 |
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| dcaliste | Hello Chris, how are you? | 08:04 |
| chriadam__ | not sure if jpetrell is here today - he's been quite ill over the last week | 08:04 |
| chriadam__ | I'm well :-) much better than I was last week! | 08:04 |
| chriadam__ | how are you? | 08:04 |
| dcaliste | I'm fine thank you. I wish jpetrell will recover quickly. | 08:05 |
| dcaliste | I'm adding tests now in the QMF plugin for S/MIME. | 08:05 |
| chriadam__ | great! | 08:06 |
| dcaliste | But I didn't have time to continue the work on the pinentry. | 08:06 |
| chriadam__ | all good | 08:06 |
| dcaliste | rainemak, when you have time, would you give a look to https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gpgme/merge_requests/3 ? | 08:07 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, my apoligies as haven't had time. will check it asap | 08:08 |
| dcaliste | GnuPG version was hardcoded in the configure to 2.0.9 which makes some signing operation fail because we have only 2.0.4. Switch to auto detect. | 08:08 |
| dcaliste | rainemak, ok, good, I was afraid that you forgot about it. But if it's still on your list, just delaied by more urgent things, it's fine ;) | 08:09 |
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| chriadam__ | welcome jpetrell :-) | 08:11 |
| jpetrell | sorry I am late | 08:12 |
| jpetrell | I have meetings full today and tomorrow | 08:12 |
| chriadam__ | ouch, not the most fun schedule :-( | 08:13 |
| dcaliste | No problem, we're flexible ! The best for your busy schedule. | 08:13 |
| jpetrell | Venemo started yesterday, visiting Jolla office this week. he is working on getting the dev environments up and running, and will help in the signing area | 08:14 |
| dcaliste | Ok, good. | 08:14 |
| jpetrell | I also am meaning to look into the domain next, unfortunately management tasks (and being sick) are keeping me busy currently | 08:15 |
| jpetrell | dcaliste, chriadam__: did you talk about anything before I arrived? sailfish-secrets? | 08:15 |
| chriadam__ | only that dcaliste is looking to add tests into the QMF plugin for S/MIME | 08:16 |
| dcaliste | I will need some design advices and decisions, but this will come later, currently, I'm still finishing the backend parts. | 08:16 |
| jpetrell | chriadam__: will look at the masterlock thingie later | 08:16 |
| chriadam__ | good luck with the dragons | 08:16 |
| jpetrell | legal is busy so cannot promise when the contribution agreement will be ready, but yeah we can make progress without it | 08:18 |
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| chriadam__ | lawyers seem to take a long time to do things. surely a contribution agreement should be simple to draft :-/ c'est la vie | 08:19 |
| dcaliste | I plan to have all backend ready for signing at the end of the month. Then, if it's not ready yet to work on UI integration, I can go for the encryption backend. | 08:19 |
| jpetrell | cool :) | 08:20 |
| Venemo | hey | 08:20 |
| chriadam__ | hi Venemo, welcome aboard ;-) | 08:21 |
| Venemo | thanks chriadam__ :) | 08:21 |
| dcaliste | Hello Venemo, nice to meet you. Jpetrell just told that you will help on the signing thngs for mails. Don't hesitate to contact me on IRC during these meetings or by mail otherwise dcaliste A free.fr | 08:22 |
| jpetrell | Venemo just went to sign his work contract | 08:24 |
| jpetrell | I don't have much at this point. hopefully I can show some progress during this week | 08:25 |
| Venemo | thanks dcaliste, very much appreciated! actually I only started yesterday so I need to get up to speed first | 08:26 |
| dcaliste | Sorry, I didn't mean to rush you ! | 08:27 |
| chriadam__ | I have nothing else either - probably dcaliste will have questions or feedback when the pinentry stuff progresses, but until we get the password agent plugin integrated that's probably blocked | 08:27 |
| dcaliste | chriadam__: indeed, I can still use my old pinentry stuff, but it's limited and cannot do all. | 08:29 |
| rainemak | Venemo, hi! | 08:32 |
| chriadam__ | dcaliste: aside from the gpg PR for rainemak, is there anything concrete needed from us at this point in time? or which Venemo could look at first? | 08:35 |
| r0kk3rz | Venemo: welcome! | 08:36 |
| dcaliste | chriadam__, in fact no. I guess QMF MRs will enter later when things will be validated from a UI point of view. | 08:37 |
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| chriadam__ | ok, cool. so I guess next steps anyway for Venemo would be to set up the env, follow the instructions you gave (what was the link to those again?) | 08:38 |
| chriadam__ | and try the prototype | 08:38 |
| dcaliste | What should be done, or think about in advance is how to handle public signatures, more generally, what happen when the public signature is not known (contact a key server…), from the UI point of view I mean. | 08:39 |
| dcaliste | The link… | 08:39 |
| dcaliste | https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:dcaliste:OpenPGP | 08:39 |
| chriadam__ | thanks | 08:39 |
| chriadam__ | I don't know much about how public key infrastructure works. in most cases, will the key server be contactable? | 08:40 |
| dcaliste | np | 08:40 |
| dcaliste | Yes for the key servers. | 08:40 |
| chriadam__ | i.e. can the email application automatically get the public key needed ot verify a signature of an email, in most cases? | 08:41 |
| dcaliste | I did a deonstrator to enter a missing key and wait for public servers to give back the public one. | 08:41 |
| dcaliste | Wait, I'm looking for it… | 08:41 |
| dcaliste | https://git.merproject.org/dcaliste/sailfish-components-gpg/blob/master/import/KeyDetails.qml | 08:43 |
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| dcaliste | At the end, you can enter a server address and the method fetchFrom() of https://git.merproject.org/dcaliste/sailfish-components-gpg/blob/master/import/keyringmodel.h will be started. | 08:45 |
| chriadam__ | cool | 08:45 |
| dcaliste | About automicity of downloading, it's a UI decision, yes it can be done. | 08:46 |
| dcaliste | (providing that the key is on known public servers of course). | 08:46 |
| chriadam__ | can you tell ahead of time which PKI server has the key? or can you only do a search and then get a negative result and move to the next server, etc? | 08:47 |
| dcaliste | I don't think so. As far as I know keys can be published on several servers at once and there is not field in the key attributes about the server :/ One has to wait for reply before trying another one. | 08:49 |
| chriadam__ | dang, ok | 08:50 |
| dcaliste | Another thing to be thought in advance, from a UI point of view: currently I'm proposing the choose which identity to sign with when writing a mail, but this can be autodetect by the from field. | 08:52 |
| dcaliste | With the drawback, that email will always be signed, not on-demand. | 08:53 |
| dcaliste | But it makes sense also like that I guess. | 08:53 |
| chriadam__ | interesting point, I guess there could be a setting (settings/apps/email) which lets you say "automatically detect key and sign" vs "manually sign only" etc | 08:53 |
| dcaliste | I love settings indeed, but I'm afraid not everyone shares this view ;) | 08:54 |
| chriadam__ | haha. sensible defaults, but ability to choose. might be best in this case. but jpetrell and designers should of course decide ;-) | 08:55 |
| dcaliste | So that's kind of things, not directly related to code that can be tought in advance. Coding is easier when design is clear. | 08:55 |
| chriadam__ | indeed. definitely need to get design involved sooner rather than later imo | 08:55 |
| chriadam__ | not sure what Martin has on his plate at the moment though | 08:55 |
| jpetrell | martin is recovering from MWC overtime | 08:55 |
| chriadam__ | ah true | 08:56 |
| jpetrell | but hopefully gets back behind the wheel soon | 08:56 |
| dcaliste | No problem, I'm not asking to have decisions soon, but on the contrary starting to put seeds for later growth. | 08:57 |
| chriadam__ | yep :-) good to think about these cases | 08:57 |
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| chriadam__ | well, I had nothing else - shall we close the meeting? | 08:57 |
| dcaliste | And a last one, what degree of information we want to give to the user: valid signature but expired time… | 08:58 |
| dcaliste | Otherwise, yes, we can close the meeting and see again next week. | 08:58 |
| chriadam__ | expired key, you mean? I wonder if there's overlap there with revoked keys | 08:59 |
| dcaliste | (forgot, key algorithm and encryption length, multi signers, valid signer but other non valid signers…) | 08:59 |
| dcaliste | Keys have a validity date (or infinity), so you can signed with a valid pasphrase but an expired key. | 09:00 |
| dcaliste | Maybe it's like revoked ones, I need to check this though. | 09:00 |
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| chriadam__ | I'm not sure, I don't really know anything about it | 09:01 |
| chriadam__ | but yes, definitely something we can discuss in next week's meeting | 09:01 |
| dcaliste | Yep, because it can easily becomes a lot of information to give to the user with associated design issues. | 09:01 |
| chriadam__ | indeed | 09:02 |
| chriadam__ | ok, thanks everyone - /me heads home | 09:02 |
| dcaliste | Good night chriadam__ | 09:02 |
| chriadam__ | gnight! :-) | 09:02 |
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| Venemo | night | 09:04 |
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| dcaliste | rainemak, sorry to disturb you. I've added the ||: to the %post and %postun and will psh soon. But I don't understand your remark about libassuan and the one of the system. | 09:49 |
| dcaliste | I mean, gpgme is not using libassuan as far as I can see from the configure log. | 09:49 |
| rainemak | thanks | 09:49 |
| dcaliste | Maybe it comes for the fact that this ancient version was using SVN so the submodule is containing a *lot* of GnuPG stuff, not only gpgme. | 09:50 |
| dcaliste | SVN was using directories to handle various projects. Everything has been cleaned and separated at a later version. | 09:51 |
| rainemak | comment regarding assuan was just a note that would be nice to use platform's libassuan instead of building assuan into to the gpgme => but at least I could not find configuration option for that | 09:53 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, was about to do the same submodulization some time back and noticed cleaned up git history | 09:54 |
| rainemak | unfortunately 1.2.0 version is us as the moment | 09:54 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, so assuan part can be like it is at the moment | 09:56 |
| dcaliste | My bad, I see your point now… | 09:56 |
| dcaliste | Yep, you're right gpgme ancient version is shipping libassuan… | 09:57 |
| rainemak | maybe that part could be fixed/patched as well => however you MR is good like this already | 09:58 |
| rainemak | ^ for later if you like to give a go | 09:58 |
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| dcaliste | I'm checking that it's still building on OBS after ||: additions. | 10:00 |
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| dcaliste | rainemak, ok, it's still building successfully, thank you for the review. | 10:11 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, np. thank you for your contribution! | 10:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | rinigus: opt-gcc static linked seems to work well :) | 10:19 |
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| X65Vbo | I'm trying to restore my contacts database from an rsync backup. I've restored the files to /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ -- the permissions are correct, and the "correct" data is there (I queried the DB using `sqlite3`) -- however the People app still shows the old data. How can I "trigger" an update? I've restarted my phone, but no luck | 10:43 |
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| rainemak | dcaliste, added one more comment | 11:02 |
| pvuorela | rinigus: hey btw, did you get notifications on my hunspell comments? | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: did you see my merbugs about new packages? | 11:09 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: um, not sure i have. | 11:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: i put one in for meson, as well as ninja and re2c | 11:10 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: ah, ok. should try to get that meson in soon. was thinking of doing some package or upgrade actually using it. | 11:11 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: cool :) theres one more on my list too | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | libsrtp2, for webrtc comms | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | and i think i'll need to do another pr for libnice, it seems the gstreamer guys want to require 0.14 | 11:14 |
| pvuorela | cool | 11:14 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: but i guess we'll need ninja too for meson to make any sense. | 11:25 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: well its there if you want to take a look | 11:26 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: ah right, you had something already. | 11:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: the thing i was building at the time required meson and ninja | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | https://git.merproject.org/r0kk3rz/ninja | 11:28 |
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| rinigus | pvuorela: no, I didn't. Thank you for pinging here, I'll look into it tonight | 11:43 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: yes, using static all the time | 11:44 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: built meson/ninja/re2c, but seem to have problems building stuff with %meson, something on rpm macros. | 13:29 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: ok macros.d seems rpm 4.11 stuff which could explain it. | 13:41 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: /etc/rpm works better on that. | 13:43 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: yes i had to do some nasty stuff to get those macros to do anything, i wasnt 100% sure why they werent working | 13:45 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: as an example of something i was hacking on - https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:r0kk3rz:branches:mer-core:devel/json-glib/json.glib.spec?expand=1 | 13:46 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: seems duplicating the macro stuff. | 13:46 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, it was just a convenient place to hack on at the time | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | but if we need to patch the macros file, we can do that | 13:48 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: already helps a lot if the dir is changed. | 13:49 |
| pvuorela | next issue i now hit is neither defined: %{_vpath_srcdir} %{_vpath_builddir} | 13:50 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: my fedora has defined in redhat-rpm-config. maybe could need some patching. | 13:53 |
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| dcaliste | rainemak, sorry was out of office. I've amended the commit messages, sorry for the inconvenience. | 14:01 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, no worries. will merge it once commit message is amended | 14:01 |
| rainemak | could have tried also with this but it's easier like this | 14:02 |
| rainemak | easier as updated | 14:02 |
| dcaliste | rainemak: every commit message now contains a mention to MER#1780. I've also added it to the MR title, in case. | 14:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | rainemak: btw, whats the plan with qtwebengine? can you share? | 14:15 |
| rainemak | r0kk3rz, nothing to share at the moment | 14:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | ok | 14:16 |
| r0kk3rz | i'm just curious as to where that fits in with embedlite and qtwebkit and such | 14:16 |
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| leszek | hmm... | 14:17 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, regarding merge requests, it's enough that one commit from merge request has a "[component] Message. Contributes to MER#bugId" kind of commit (or with "Fixes MER#bugId") | 14:18 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, it also good of course if all commits have this changelog entry | 14:18 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, merge, tagged, and integrated | 14:19 |
| dcaliste | Great, thank you, I won't have issues like "engine /usr/bin/gpgsm version 2.0.4 installed, but at least version 2.0.9 required" in the near future with official gpgme. Cool. | 14:20 |
| dcaliste | Thank you. | 14:20 |
| leszek | rainemak: what about qtwebkit 5.212. Anyone looked at that from Jolla yet? I submitted a merge request like I was told to do. Though the code is in parts totally different so you can't merge it with qtwebkit 5.6. Still its worth taking a look at as it fixes sooo many bugs in qtwebkit | 14:23 |
| rainemak | abranson noted about it before MWC but so far haven't had time, my apologies. Let's try to find time for that as well | 14:24 |
| rainemak | leszek, ^ | 14:25 |
| leszek | ok thanks. It still has one major bug that I know of but did not find a fix for. The "load images" in jolla-email is turned on all the time | 14:25 |
| rainemak | leszek, no c pref group anymore? | 14:26 |
| leszek | the way it worked in qtwebkit 5.6 is not working anymore | 14:26 |
| rainemak | leszek, WKPref or something like? | 14:26 |
| leszek | yeah I did not test that yet | 14:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: well macroage seems a bit better | 14:48 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: macroage? | 14:57 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: meson/ninja macros | 14:58 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: but now my json-glib package doesnt build for obscure reasons | 15:00 |
| r0kk3rz | ah thats better, fixed now | 15:09 |
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| present | Hi guys | 20:19 |
| present | I need the root pawwsord of the scratchbox target to install a package I built. | 20:20 |
| present | Otherwise: How can I do a make install? :) | 20:21 |
| abranson | present: did you try using sudo? | 20:21 |
| present | yep | 20:21 |
| present | not foud for now ;) | 20:22 |
| present | installed it and got effective uid is not ° | 20:23 |
| present | *0 | 20:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | present: oh dear what are you doing :P | 20:26 |
| present | r0kk3rz, I need to install webchannel which is a dependency of webengine | 20:27 |
| present | just compiled it | 20:27 |
| present | unless I can install if in the build folder to a proper place | 20:28 |
| present | I picked webchannel and webengine separately | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | looks simple enough to package | 20:30 |
| r0kk3rz | https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt5-qtwebchannel/blob/master/f/qt5-qtwebchannel.spec | 20:30 |
| present | r0kk3rz, k I'll try that in my current try still fails ;) | 20:35 |
| present | I just copied lib, include, mkspecs and qml generated dir from webchannel to webengine | 20:35 |
| r0kk3rz | you should just be able to use -R flag to get root | 20:36 |
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| present | back sorry | 20:46 |
| present | out of battery :D can't play/work anymore :/ | 20:47 |
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| zotan | does anyone have any tips on speeding up application build times? | 21:49 |
| r0kk3rz | zotan: unpack the sdk vm? | 21:52 |
| zotan | r0kk3rz: I don't need to go that far, I just need to stop qmake rebuilding things that haven't changed. | 21:56 |
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