Wednesday, 2018-02-28

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Kabouik_Would anyone have any ideas regarding the last three posts here? https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1541688#post154168800:11
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Albert_ /JOIN #I was wondering if it is possible to run metasploit and other penetration testing tools on Sailfish OS?10:01
r0kk3rzsure you can10:01
Albert_I never used this system before. am I just enter the apt-get command in terminal like Debian?10:02
Albert_Well, definitely not in this way10:03
Albert_And I tried to Google this, apparently, there is no relevant post about that.10:03
Albert_So....I really don't know how to achieve that10:04
r0kk3rzits not debian based, so no apt get10:04
r0kk3rzand the packages you're looking for wont be in the main repositories10:04
Albert_Yes10:05
r0kk3rzif you know exactly what you're looking for, you might be able to find it here: https://build.merproject.org/10:05
Albert_OK, thank you so much!10:06
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r0kk3rzif what you want isnt there, you can get an account for there and build it10:08
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andrzejhey10:33
andrzejI see that Xperia X supports SailfishOS10:35
x2syes10:35
x2s(well, actually it's the other way round. SailfishOS supports Xperia X ;)10:36
r0kk3rzits a bit of both10:36
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andrzejok10:48
andrzejmy question is how long it will be supported (about security updates and update to higher SFOS version) ?10:49
r0kk3rzas long is practical10:49
r0kk3rzjolla 1 still has support for instance10:49
r0kk3rzi think there was only one device that support was dropped... but that was an exceptional circumstance10:50
andrzejbut there is sfos 2 already ?10:51
r0kk3rzyes10:51
r0kk3rzbut i wouldnt worry too much about the 1.x 2.x 3.x versioning, its mostly for marketing purposes anyway10:52
andrzejthose which are on 1.x haven't been updated to 2 ?10:52
r0kk3rzthey have10:52
r0kk3rzits not like android10:53
andrzejuhm10:53
andrzejI wish to buy Xperia but not sure which will be better - X or XA2 ?10:53
leszekJolla 1 is supported since about 5 years. I guess you can expect at least this also for the Xperia X10:53
andrzejhey leszek10:54
andrzej:]10:54
leszekandrzej: X has dual speakers on front. A tiny bit smaller display. XA2 has a slightly newer processor (same midrange though). No front speaker but a mono downwards firing speaker. A slightly bigger and brighter display and a bigger battery10:55
leszekthe rest is almost the same. 3 GB RAM, same 23 MP camera sensor. X 13 MP front cam, XA2 8 MP front cam10:55
andrzejany of them is waterresistant/proof ?10:55
leszeknope10:55
andrzejand as I see XA2 is twice as much more expensive than X10:56
leszekthe XA2 feels more plasticy and a bit cheaper than the X10:56
leszekXA2 was just released this month. Xperia X is more than a year old10:56
andrzejyeah10:57
leszekthe processor might be slightly faster on the XA2 as it has 8 cores 4 fast and 4 slower/battery saving ones10:57
leszekthe X has 2 fast and 4 slower ones10:58
leszekcurrently Sailfish X mostly only uses the 4 slower ones10:58
tadzikhm, curious that there's more slower than faster ones, I always assumed it's the other way around10:58
leszekyeah I also thought so until someone told me thats the other way around actually. And yep makes sense for background tasks I think10:59
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M4rtinKisn't it that the processor cores on the XA2 are faster by frequency but actually less sophisticated ?12:32
M4rtinKIIRC it was something like that12:32
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presentJust tried out to get QtNetworkAuth in a Sailfish project.13:45
presentMeaning having QtNetworkAuth working with Qt5.6.13:46
presentThe first blocker I got is this one : https://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtnetworkauth/src/oauth/qoauth1.cpp.html#20513:46
presentTo replace the QOverload.13:46
presentThis substitution does not work :13:47
presentQObject::connect(reply, SIGNAL(error(QNetworkReply::NetworkError error)),13:48
presentthis, SLOT(_q_onTokenRequestError(QNetworkReply::NetworkError error)));13:48
present=> no known conversion for argument 3 from 'QOAuth1Private* const' to 'const QObject*'13:49
presentHow can I replace this connection?13:49
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presentOk http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/signalsandslots-syntaxes.html => QOverload is the single stuff to replace to get QtNetworkAuth working with 5.614:43
present:)14:43
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PeperJohnnypiggz_: Hey mate, I added your repo as told and refreshed it with "pkcon refresh". However, once I try to install qca-qt5 it tells me that it cannot be found16:38
PeperJohnnyOk that was a dumb one, sorry16:43
PeperJohnnyGotta leave unfortunately, I'll try it later. Thanks anyway16:44
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lorde_kumamon[m]Could Sailfish OS run on e-book readers?22:24
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r0kk3rzdo they have a linux kernel?22:25
lorde_kumamon[m]some do22:26
lorde_kumamon[m]but they usually are very closed22:26
lorde_kumamon[m]and usually they have terrible software and try to compete with each other with terrible software slowling progressing to something22:27
lorde_kumamon[m]some even allow you to run Android apps so you're not limited by horrible software22:27
r0kk3rzandroid apps, on an e-book reader?22:27
lorde_kumamon[m]I'd enjoy an open GPLv3 based software which would beat all of them22:27
lorde_kumamon[m]r0kk3rz: let me get the YouTube link. Just a sec.22:27
r0kk3rzit sounds like it could theoretically work, but the stock UX might not be great22:29
lorde_kumamon[m]r0kk3rz: I think I saw on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41vx4_afCA22:31
leszekbtw. qtwebkit bug fixed for Xperia X with my qtwebkit 5.212 builds. See: https://together.jolla.com/question/171114/xperia-xbug-qtwebkit-unusably-slow/?answer=180404#post-id-18040422:32
leszeklorde_kumamon[m]: I have an android based tolino ebook reader that I rooted. Theoretical possible to run SailfishOS but I think it needs optimization for the eink display22:32
leszekotherwise it isn't very usable22:33
lorde_kumamon[m]what's the best device to run sfos today if you don't have a Jolla? Sony Xperia?22:33
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lorde_kumamon[m]leszek: nice22:35
leszeklorde_kumamon[m]: I think so. Though others might argue that the Moto ports from michael are more trouble free and also provide a very nice and smooth experience. Though they lack the proprietary parts like Android support and so on. So full fledged SailfishOS Experience definitely Xperia X22:36
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