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| tortoisedoc | hello! | 11:08 |
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| tortoisedoc | I was wondering | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | about the sailfsh-store for android | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | the what now? | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | are the downloads of the apk's there global or only local (as in referred to the sailfish-store) | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | you mean aptoide? | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : no | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | the android store on sfos | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | (can be aptoide in the background maybe) | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah you mean aptoide | 11:10 |
| tortoisedoc | also called "Store" | 11:10 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 11:10 |
| tortoisedoc | are the download counters "local" there? or global (i.e. including all aptoide downloads) | 11:10 |
| tortoisedoc | cause I just noticed Opera browser being downloaded ~650K | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc | (opera mini that is) | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc | also, the store name is sailfish-apps | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc | I guess its global download counter | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc | but that'd be quite few? | 11:12 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i think the store name might just be a curated list of the whole | 11:12 |
| r0kk3rz | 650k downloads for opera mini sounds way too many for just sfos users | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | whatsapp says 74M... | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : I dont know; it does not sound too unbelievable; | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | hah :D | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah id say its global | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | darn | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | for one minute I had hope ;_; | 11:14 |
| Tegu | I guess you can get better guesstimates by looking at the download count of native apps | 11:16 |
| tortoisedoc | Tegu : that's what I was wondering actually | 11:16 |
| tortoisedoc | how reliable are the native app's download counts w/r towards the andoird ones | 11:16 |
| tortoisedoc | ofc jolla store has both | 11:16 |
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| Tegu | ah yea. I guess it's not possible to see the actual devices.. but the android support has 50k+ downloads on jolla store. | 11:19 |
| Tegu | the store backend sends the actual counts as well if you sniff (or rather, mitm)the connection | 11:20 |
| tortoisedoc | _b | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | only jolla will have good numbers | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | realistically the best metric would be version upgrades | 11:26 |
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| Tegu | good point. version upgrades would show what is still used | 11:29 |
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| tortoisedoc | speaking of upgrades | 11:29 |
| Tegu | does the harbor interface for the app devs show it? | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc | when's the next sfosx update? :) :) | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | Tegu : you wish | 11:30 |
| r0kk3rz | app downloads will be padded with ported devices, ive probably downloaded the stock apps at least 100 times on my tablet | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz ported devices or not, does not make much of a difference imo | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | ah :) | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | you mean multiple downloads :) | 11:30 |
| Tegu | they don'tlink the download to the account? | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | they probably do, but do not show it | 11:31 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea | 11:31 |
| Tegu | and only count one account once | 11:31 |
| tortoisedoc | s/but do/but if so do/ | 11:31 |
| r0kk3rz | youd have to ask pketo about that one, i would've thought it was just individual downloads | 11:31 |
| tortoisedoc | pketo : can you tell us if the downloads are tied to individual accounts? | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | s/downloads/download counts/ | 11:32 |
| Tegu | let's try with an app that has been downloaded only few times | 11:32 |
| Tegu | install and reinstall it like 50 times :D | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 11:32 |
| Tegu | to get from 50+ to 100+ | 11:32 |
| Tegu | or mim the connection and watch the actual counter | 11:33 |
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| pketo | I don't know where aptoide pulls the numbers | 11:44 |
| r0kk3rz | pketo: what about harbour | 11:44 |
| pketo | they are tied to device if I remember correctly, so you can download app on one device 100 times but it counts as one | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | ah ok | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | thats useful to know | 11:47 |
| tadzik | it also tracks uninstalls, which is nice | 11:50 |
| tadzik | my apps have >500 downloads, but <300 installs :) | 11:51 |
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| tortoisedoc | tadzik thats a retention rate of ~40%, not bad | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | whos knowledgeable about the mer sdk in here? | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | I have implemented a small ssh plug and would need to initialize it based on the status of the vm | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc | (im talking about mersdk when I mention vm) | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc | ping rainemak | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc | ping pvuorela | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc | ^ | 12:18 |
| r0kk3rz | thats like vbox api stuff | 12:21 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz exactly | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | but there's two vms, emulator and mersdk | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | plus it seems connections to the mer sdk are made on a per-sdk basis | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | so i wanted to collect more info | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | before proceeding | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | ideally you'd have one ssh terminal plugin to the sdk (to start with) which connects when the vm is up, and disconnects when the vm is down | 12:23 |
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| tadzik | tortoisedoc: Yeah :) Varies between apps, the geocaching app has a slightly higher one, unsurprisingly | 13:31 |
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| tadzik | harbour version doesn't support a map because harbour, and no version supports actual geocaching.com | 13:31 |
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| blap | “Have a purpose in life, and having it, throw into your work such strength of mind and muscle as God has given you.” - Thomas Carlyle | 21:45 |
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