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| tadzik | ah shit, seems like jolla properly removed qtlocation from the OS in Sailfish X, making map in my app not worky | 10:15 |
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| tadzik | rip | 10:15 |
| tadzik | still in the repos though, so not all doom and gloom | 10:16 |
| coderus | tadzik: missed proepr Requires? | 10:19 |
| tadzik | coderus: yeah, seems like. It Just Worked before, doesn't anymore :) | 10:22 |
| coderus | tadzik: what import you missing on what os version? | 10:22 |
| tadzik | coderus: qtlocation on latest sailfish x | 10:23 |
| tadzik | it used to be preinstalled on non-x, so my app just worked | 10:23 |
| tadzik | seems like I'm not alone: https://openrepos.net/content/alfmar/gpstuff | 10:23 |
| coderus | tadzik: ha! never trust preinstalled stuff. you MUST Require all stuff you want in spec | 10:23 |
| tadzik | or maybe it was not preinstalled but something else pulled it in. hmm | 10:24 |
| tadzik | coderus: yeah, you're right, my mistake :) | 10:24 |
| coderus | add Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-location | 10:25 |
| coderus | and do same for all libs and plugins you re using | 10:25 |
| tadzik | will do, thanks | 10:28 |
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| * satmd boots his old Jolla Phone | 11:21 | |
| x2s | coderus: tadzik: That may explain why no GPS app works on my SailfishX | 11:30 |
| coderus | firmware image is usually built by depends, so no unneeded packages are included | 11:31 |
| Renault | hello, since few days I have very bad Android application performances (Whatsapp or time to install another application), no impact on native apps apparently | 11:33 |
| Renault | it is draining a lot of battery too | 11:33 |
| Renault | it is a long time after the last update, I guess it is not related | 11:33 |
| Renault | there is any clue to improve that? I'm alone? | 11:34 |
| Renault | Jolla C for the phone | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | Renault: check journal | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | i noticed mine is spamming binder errors and also having dalvik crash often... | 11:36 |
| Renault | journalctl? | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yes, as root | 11:37 |
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| blubber | JOIN | 11:40 |
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| Renault | r0kk3rz: no specific error | 11:44 |
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| Renault | but for the moment Whatsapp is ok, the update application still very slow then sometimes crash of Whatsapp or Android VM | 11:45 |
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| Renault | do you a bug report somewhere to follow the issue? | 11:48 |
| Mister_Magister | Renault: https://together.jolla.com/ maybe? | 11:49 |
| Renault | my question was more if r0kk3rz already reported this issue (or someone else) | 11:50 |
| Mister_Magister | ah | 11:50 |
| * Mister_Magister goes bac then | 11:50 | |
| r0kk3rz | Renault: i dont i only really noticed it yesterday | 11:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | could just be something weird with my phone... | 11:51 |
| Renault | ok | 11:51 |
| r0kk3rz | i cant seem to update any android apps at all | 11:51 |
| r0kk3rz | so whatever it is, its farked | 11:52 |
| x2s | well, I still find together.jolla.com not very helpful. I wrote my bluetooth problem in a thread talking about a similar thing and nobody cared. | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | that was probably your first mistake | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | dont lump 'similar' things together | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | its either the same, or create a new question | 11:55 |
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| Renault | r0kk3rz: Whatsapp took hours to be updated | 12:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | hours? really? wtf | 12:04 |
| Renault | yes | 12:04 |
| r0kk3rz | i left it like 10min and then aborted | 12:04 |
| Renault | it is an issue | 12:04 |
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| Renault | maybe we have the same issue in fact | 12:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | mmm | 12:04 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if its a googlyplay issue | 12:05 |
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| fLegmatik | try yalp store. | 12:08 |
| tadzik | I started using aptoide recently, I'm quite happy with it actually | 12:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | eh i think this is aptoide store im using | 12:12 |
| r0kk3rz | it just says 'store' | 12:12 |
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| tadzik | right | 13:02 |
| x2s | r0kk3rz: it's similar, but nobody really cared about the initial problem report either ;) | 13:02 |
| tadzik | isn't it great that there's 2 stock apps named exactly the same? :) | 13:02 |
| r0kk3rz | x2s: typically i poke the appropriate jolla employee here as well when i have a problem | 13:07 |
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| x2s | r0kk3rz: all I need is some insight about how the bluetooth stuff works together. Then I can go and debug myself | 13:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | x2s: whats your problem? | 13:17 |
| x2s | in short: sailfishX doesn't want to connect to cars handsfree bluetooth system anymore. It worked the first time. But then shared the addressbook not correctly. Deleted connection, set up again, now SailfishX is not recognized as handsfree capable anymore by car. (Also deleted connection there) | 13:19 |
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| x2s | Two problems, I guess | 13:19 |
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| x2s | in detail: https://together.jolla.com/question/168301/bluetooth-pairing-between-car-and-jolla-1-fails-210-21126-2123-2137/?sort=votes&page=1#175874 | 13:20 |
| x2s | well, three problems, if you count the "enter pin" as one. | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | does the car ask for a pin? | 13:20 |
| x2s | It does. And 0000 works ;) | 13:20 |
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| x2s | I get a connection, but now it's just an expensive audio player :D | 13:21 |
| x2s | What I need to understand to further investigate is how bluez5 works here. I know it's plugin/dbus driven | 13:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | HFP protocol passes through to ofono | 13:22 |
| x2s | I've played with it around on my own, when I created a bluetooth playback device with a RaspberryPi | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | iirc bluez doesnt really do much with it | 13:22 |
| x2s | bluez has to know what to offer, doesn't it? | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | but you can install bluez5-tools and poke around with bluetoothctl | 13:23 |
| r0kk3rz | and hcitool | 13:23 |
| x2s | I did already. But HFP and ofono are already important things to know. | 13:23 |
| x2s | Thank you | 13:23 |
| x2s | If I can fix that, the next part would be the addressbook. | 13:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont know that much about that side of it | 13:24 |
| x2s | From what I've learnt from some old threads the contacts are somehow exported and then provied by obexftp, right? | 13:24 |
| r0kk3rz | hmmm yes could be a buteo plugin | 13:24 |
| x2s | buteo? | 13:24 |
| r0kk3rz | is a thing that deals with syncing contacts | 13:26 |
| r0kk3rz | but maybe its only for carddav | 13:26 |
| x2s | well, carddav is another thing... I've set it up, but I have no idea what contacts are saved locally and which ones are synced... it's a little mess :) | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | thats something on chriadam's list | 13:27 |
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| x2s | But so far I'm very pleased with SailfishOS. All the major parts are working, now all the minor things can get smoothed out :) | 13:28 |
| tadzik | cool :) | 13:29 |
| x2s | I've been a long time KDE user. Nobody remembers all the problems with KDE2 anymore. I've learnt to wait (and submit bug reports) *g* | 13:29 |
| tadzik | glad to have you with us | 13:29 |
| tadzik | well, I remember KDE 4.0... ;) | 13:29 |
| tadzik | and the later "but- but it was not supposed to be a stable release!!1" :P | 13:29 |
| x2s | I suppressed that ;P | 13:29 |
| r0kk3rz | x2s: its worth talking to the jolla guys directly if you're willing to do some real debugging for them | 13:30 |
| r0kk3rz | or talk in the #sailfishos-porters channel since we generally know the lay of the land at least | 13:31 |
| x2s | well, at first I have to find a warm place to park my car. It's cold working in it right now ;) | 13:31 |
| r0kk3rz | x2s: do you know what profile is used for contacts sync on that car? | 13:34 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like theres PBAP and SyncML | 13:34 |
| r0kk3rz | which indeed has a buteo plugin | 13:34 |
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| x2s | well, let me look, what my phone saved about the car... | 13:39 |
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| x2s | Services=00001103-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;0000110b-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;0000110e-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;00001115-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;0000111e-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;00001200-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb; | 13:41 |
| x2s | well... | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | oh yeah those ones | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | i remember them fondly | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | particularly 00001115-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb;, had me in tears that one did | 13:42 |
| x2s | I need a translation ;) | 13:42 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah you should be able to look at it through bluetoothctl | 13:43 |
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| x2s | but iirc only, when it's nearby | 13:49 |
| x2s | and available | 13:49 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah obviously | 13:51 |
| x2s | uhm. Why do I have two bluetooth devices? Or at least two different device ids save in /var/lib/bluetooth? | 13:51 |
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| Krikke | anyone had the same problem I have? google keep icon is blank | 14:29 |
| Krikke | I can run the app but the icon is just transparent | 14:30 |
| Krikke | more of a cosmetic problem | 14:30 |
| Krikke | this is on sailfish x | 14:30 |
| Krikke | I tried reinstalling the app | 14:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | x2s: init problems maybe, since it downloads the mac with the firmware | 14:31 |
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| Krikke | hmm seems the icon.png is missing | 14:43 |
| Krikke | weird :D | 14:43 |
| dlavso | Hello guys, anyone bought accione smartphone? | 14:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | dlavso: is it available? | 15:09 |
| dlavso | not sure | 15:09 |
| dlavso | maybe in a kind of limited edition | 15:09 |
| Mister_Magister | dlavso: i hold prototype :P | 15:14 |
| x2s | r0kk3rz: well, that could be the problem. It looks like I connected with that MAC the first time to my cars handsfree | 15:14 |
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| dlavso | Mister_Magister, how have you obtained a prototype? | 15:23 |
| Mister_Magister | dlavso: i was on meeting with jolla CEO i dont own it | 15:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | *held | 15:24 |
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| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: thanks | 15:24 |
| dlavso | really i'm interested of accione p | 15:24 |
| dlavso | accione is like an intex aquafish that i already have (maybe with some added sensors) | 15:26 |
| r0kk3rz | dlavso: are you from bolivia? | 15:27 |
| dlavso | no, i'm italian but but i hope that ebay can help me to buy an accione as helped me to bought intex aquafish | 15:28 |
| r0kk3rz | ah i see | 15:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | indeed accione is probably very similar to aquafish | 15:29 |
| dlavso | also jala talked about sell accione in europe on slush 2017 | 15:29 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if jolla will do another community device offering with it? | 15:30 |
| dlavso | if i'm not wrong | 15:30 |
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| shy_guest | hi. my question is not about sailfishos, it is about qml and android. I ask here maybe someone develop cross platform app for both android and sailfish os. I couldn't add AdMob to QML Android app. Is there anybody that added AdMob to QML apps for Android? | 20:05 |
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| shy_guest | I also would like to use sailfishos's qml component for android but it is impossible right now | 20:55 |
| shy_guest | sailfish os's component is closed source right? | 20:56 |
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