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| x2s | If anybody knows an anwser to this, I'd be delighted: https://together.jolla.com/question/168301/bluetooth-pairing-between-car-and-jolla-1-fails-210-21126-2123-2137/?answer=175874#post-id-175874 | 09:58 |
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| entil | is there a mechanism to fake which version of android alien dalvik is running or does it ever make sense to do so anyway? I tried starting the Holvi app, which has apparently been updated a week ago to the day, and 1) it refuses to do anything without upgrading the app 2) the yalp store does not list any updates and I can only guess it's because of the android version | 16:34 |
| r0kk3rz | its probably in the apk manifest | 16:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you can download the apk from somewhere | 16:38 |
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| entil | yeah, downloading from apk-dl.com - the yalp store manual download thingy is a bit weird | 16:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | to guarantees it will work though | 16:41 |
| r0kk3rz | *no | 16:41 |
| entil | the app description doesn't say it requires a specific version; translating back to english it varies by phone | 16:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah because thats 'user friendly' | 16:41 |
| entil | I believe I have 1.1.7 installed, it worked until this enforcing started, and now 2.1.3 appears to be the new one, so all bets are certainly off | 16:41 |
| entil | I fucking hate this android shit | 16:42 |
| entil | too bad there's a handful of super useful apps when you have business or something to engage in | 16:42 |
| r0kk3rz | yes the walled metropolis is quite large these days | 16:43 |
| r0kk3rz | perhaps walled arcology is a better term these days | 16:43 |
| entil | for once governments are doing something useful when they're forcing banks to open their APIs, but it'll take forever for anything useful to come out of it and it still won't give me taxi and uber apps or skype | 16:43 |
| entil | Parse error / There was a problem while parsing the package. | 16:44 |
| entil | Causes of the Parse error in Android? -> [...] | 16:47 |
| entil | Your Android smartphone OS version or the hardware is not compatible with the app. | 16:47 |
| entil | I don't know much about android, but is this an expected trend, that alien dalvik is growing too old to run apps? is there any info on an upgrade coming along? cuz apparently there have been upgrades before - https://together.jolla.com/question/10407/what-is-the-support-lifetime-for-the-included-myriad-alien-dalvik/ - but a major one to 5.0 would be needed | 16:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | imo its an expected trend | 16:52 |
| entil | oh, this other page actually does specify it requires 5.0+ so that settles it http://apk-dl.com/com.holvi.app | 16:52 |
| r0kk3rz | android 5 is slowly becoming the new baseline | 16:53 |
| entil | http://www.myriadgroup.com/en/products/device-solutions/mobile-software/alien-dalvik/ no talk about versions, only a broken breadcrumb trail | 16:55 |
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| entil | if I was active on twitter I'd tweet about how sad this all is, but instead I'll go make dinner and figure out how the fuck to take care of this thing now | 16:56 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, pretty sure myriad dont care about alien-dalvik anymore | 16:56 |
| entil | thanks for the moral support, r0kk3rz, you r0kk, bye -> | 16:56 |
| r0kk3rz | it kinda lost its nieche anyway | 16:56 |
| r0kk3rz | SBCs got more powerful, android became slightly less of a pig | 16:57 |
| entil | the fuck it did, there are no open-source substitutes for a lot of this stuff... but I seriously need to prep food -> | 16:57 |
| r0kk3rz | 'open source' was never anything to do with alien-dalvik | 16:57 |
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| hahlo | could you reserve engineer it? | 17:15 |
| Mister_Magister | hahlo: you mean reverse* | 17:16 |
| hahlo | yeah | 17:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | reverse engineer what exactly? | 17:41 |
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| hahlo | that dalvik thing | 17:54 |
| hahlo | which isn't open source | 17:55 |
| r0kk3rz | ... but why? | 17:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | it'd be easier to just work on anbox instead | 17:56 |
| hahlo | I don't know, if it helps | 17:56 |
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